I meant for the average non-techno-weenie. A utilities folder = "I could break things."
Most users aren't novices, looking at the control panel and clicking randomly versus ignoring it really is the fork in the road between potential techie and everyday user.
Their products even came with circuit diagrams and hacking instructions.
Given how integrated and tightly designed modern PCBs are, even if they did this with the first Macintosh, it would be completely absurd to expect it on modern Macs, iOS devices, etc.
You do own the things you do buy, they just make it difficult to shoot yourself in the foot with them(hiding the terminal somewhere in a scary looking utilities folder was a nice touch).
There's simply no other reasonable alternative. OEMs suck. All of them. Including Apple. Apple just sucks way less as an OEM. Building my own machine means I'm stuck with either Windows or Linux, when I'd seriously rather have OSX(Parts vendors also suck).
Android's a decent OS, but, iOS fits my needs better. Blahblahblah walled garden blahblahblah. The damn thing just works.
Yes, there's a tendency to defend your own purchasing decisions, but, I chalk that up to human nature. When someone calls you a moron, the instinct is to defend yourself against such accusations.
I just don't see the lack of an SD Card slot as a downside. most users don't have SD Cards coming out of their pockets. SD Card slots are ubiquitous, SD Cards though, not so much.
how would the SD Card slot make things better? That's an extra hole in the side of the case, or worse yet, a potential point for crap and grime to get in.
Wireless sync is slow compared to USB, especially when you're competing for bandwidth with other wireless devices.
Lacking Flash is a feature, not a bug.:)
Unlike the Playbook or the Touchpad, this thing is shipping next week. That's a huge feature over the competition that Apple's always had. They ship shit.
(Unless you want it in white. Yeah, that was a debacle.)
Free software "just works" when properly supported and is cheaper for users and HW makers.
How's that working for Nokia?
Besides, free software isn't the solution to shitty software. On the phone, the stakes are much higher. I'll stick with my "locked down" iOS over an OS that might break because what I thought was an ssh client was also harvesting personal information and giving it to someone for nefarious purposes.
But even up to and including XP, if it's patched up to the latest Service Pack and patch version, has a firewall activated, a virus checker and sits behind a NAT router on the Internet, then that system is going to be pretty safe just sitting there.
This is what I'm talking about. Users are users, they're not a thing for OS vendors to abuse. They live lives outside of the realm of computing too.
But it's got its bad security reputation because Microsoft made some poor marketing decisions and aimed it at people who believe they don't need any sysadmin skills to maintain it, and your comments don't honestly do any justice to the number of really good Windows sysadmins who make a pretty good job of keeping it secure, in my experience.
I'm speaking purely in the user space sense. Users shouldn't have sysadmin skills.
Sysadmins on the other hand, are paid to support and keep systems running. Non-sysadmins typically are already working one maybe two jobs, why are we advocating that they also do technical support for free?
This is more akin to the idea that I shouldn't worry about hitting the gas or brake pedal in fear of blowing the engine.
What security features were missing until Windows 7 ?
A real UAE implementation, NX, ASLR, etc? Windows Vista had some of these features but they sucked, and Windows 7 still sucks by a large margin, Windows 7 just sucks a whole lot less.
When your business is security and you get owned by hackers, I don't care if it was illegal, it's justified.
If someone broke into a brinks truck and stole everything inside after the Brinks CEO said something ridiculously stupid, I would not shed a single tear.
(Unless it was my shit that was just stolen. If it was valuable enough to be transported by Brinks though, it's probably insured anyway.)
Why not blame the OS and the CPU architecture underneath?
System security shouldn't be something users should ever have to worry about. While it's true making a perfect lock is impossible, Windows security until 7 has basically been a giant sign that says, "Please don't own this box."
x86 CPUs kind of suck for security. Windows as an OS really sucks for security.
Also, most of the things on your list are not vulnerabilities, and the few that were are almost all reports about Apple having fixed those vulnerabilities. The only one I saw that did not fall into that category was a DNS cache poisoning bug. Besides being difficult to exploit usefully, it applies to a DNS server daemon that doesn't even run in Mac OS X unless you explicitly enable the name server by editing config files (or in the GUI in Mac OS X Server).
From the parent poster above yours.
Put up or shut up. Exploit something or go back to writing shitty Delphi code that's worthy of thedailywtf.com.
Zero drive-bys for OSX versus... how many ever for Windows, I can't even count anymore.
SG:U really was a bummer. Every week. And it got worse thinking this could go on for 8, 9 or even more seasons.
I really like SciFi that doesn't glorify the military, Gundam's my favorite SciFi series(Gundam and it's follow up, Zeta, are both really antimilitary, and Wing way even more so to the point of beating you up with the point with a bat).
iPod + iTunes integration was the innovation, plus the pretty slick and easy to use UI. I've seen people puzzled by iRiver and Archos devices have no problems with iPods.
"If we had just grabbed the Intel Pentium chip and done a one-way and two-way pizza box with Solaris on it, Linux never would have happened. And we would have hit that whole next wave that was post-2000 and we would have had all the little startups.
McNealy forgets that Linux was a labor of love. If Solaris had shipped on commodity x86 hardware from Sun, that wouldn't have changed the game. The initial userbase behind Linux were the hackers who had been doing work on it in university and in their spare time. When it came for dot-coms to hit the web, everyone already knew Linux. Even if Sun hardware was cheap, no one knew Solaris.
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What about Free-as-in-speech free?
When you don't have to worry about tuition, the value of free changes greatly.
I meant for the average non-techno-weenie. A utilities folder = "I could break things."
Most users aren't novices, looking at the control panel and clicking randomly versus ignoring it really is the fork in the road between potential techie and everyday user.
can we all now shut up about how tablets are for consumption of media?
How many stories have we seen where artists, writers, musicians, and other creative types are using tablet devices for creation of content?
By releasing prototype hardware to devs before going to launch so apps do exist for the platform?
We are no longer in the paradigm of "will my apps run?" but "will there be an app that lets me do $task with $data?"
Their products even came with circuit diagrams and hacking instructions.
Given how integrated and tightly designed modern PCBs are, even if they did this with the first Macintosh, it would be completely absurd to expect it on modern Macs, iOS devices, etc.
You do own the things you do buy, they just make it difficult to shoot yourself in the foot with them(hiding the terminal somewhere in a scary looking utilities folder was a nice touch).
Errr. No? Hostage?
There's simply no other reasonable alternative. OEMs suck. All of them. Including Apple. Apple just sucks way less as an OEM. Building my own machine means I'm stuck with either Windows or Linux, when I'd seriously rather have OSX(Parts vendors also suck).
Android's a decent OS, but, iOS fits my needs better. Blahblahblah walled garden blahblahblah. The damn thing just works.
Yes, there's a tendency to defend your own purchasing decisions, but, I chalk that up to human nature. When someone calls you a moron, the instinct is to defend yourself against such accusations.
I just don't see the lack of an SD Card slot as a downside. most users don't have SD Cards coming out of their pockets. SD Card slots are ubiquitous, SD Cards though, not so much.
how would the SD Card slot make things better? That's an extra hole in the side of the case, or worse yet, a potential point for crap and grime to get in.
Wireless sync is slow compared to USB, especially when you're competing for bandwidth with other wireless devices.
Lacking Flash is a feature, not a bug. :)
Unlike the Playbook or the Touchpad, this thing is shipping next week. That's a huge feature over the competition that Apple's always had. They ship shit.
(Unless you want it in white. Yeah, that was a debacle.)
Free software "just works" when properly supported and is cheaper for users and HW makers.
How's that working for Nokia?
Besides, free software isn't the solution to shitty software. On the phone, the stakes are much higher. I'll stick with my "locked down" iOS over an OS that might break because what I thought was an ssh client was also harvesting personal information and giving it to someone for nefarious purposes.
Darl McBride, Aaron Barr and other people who are routinely full of shit make bad decisions on a daily basis.
I call shenanigans.
That's exactly my point though.
I don't hear of stories where corporate officers of brinks or Loomis Fargo intentionally pissing off and looking for trouble either.
NOTE: Currently, there is no application known that can be used as attack vector.
...and?
What's the point of an exploit if there's no attack vector?
But even up to and including XP, if it's patched up to the latest Service Pack and patch version, has a firewall activated, a virus checker and sits behind a NAT router on the Internet, then that system is going to be pretty safe just sitting there.
This is what I'm talking about. Users are users, they're not a thing for OS vendors to abuse. They live lives outside of the realm of computing too.
But it's got its bad security reputation because Microsoft made some poor marketing decisions and aimed it at people who believe they don't need any sysadmin skills to maintain it, and your comments don't honestly do any justice to the number of really good Windows sysadmins who make a pretty good job of keeping it secure, in my experience.
I'm speaking purely in the user space sense. Users shouldn't have sysadmin skills.
Sysadmins on the other hand, are paid to support and keep systems running. Non-sysadmins typically are already working one maybe two jobs, why are we advocating that they also do technical support for free?
darkComet's a payload, not a vulnerability.
Post an exploit or shut up. I'm seriously tired of your unhinged rants.
What ? That's like saying steering isn't something car drivers should ever have to worry about.
The end user is the single biggest security risk in any remotely modern system.
70% of malware results of drive-by infection.
This is more akin to the idea that I shouldn't worry about hitting the gas or brake pedal in fear of blowing the engine.
What security features were missing until Windows 7 ?
A real UAE implementation, NX, ASLR, etc? Windows Vista had some of these features but they sucked, and Windows 7 still sucks by a large margin, Windows 7 just sucks a whole lot less.
When your business is security and you get owned by hackers, I don't care if it was illegal, it's justified.
If someone broke into a brinks truck and stole everything inside after the Brinks CEO said something ridiculously stupid, I would not shed a single tear.
(Unless it was my shit that was just stolen. If it was valuable enough to be transported by Brinks though, it's probably insured anyway.)
Why not blame the OS and the CPU architecture underneath?
System security shouldn't be something users should ever have to worry about. While it's true making a perfect lock is impossible, Windows security until 7 has basically been a giant sign that says, "Please don't own this box."
x86 CPUs kind of suck for security. Windows as an OS really sucks for security.
Also, most of the things on your list are not vulnerabilities, and the few that were are almost all reports about Apple having fixed those vulnerabilities. The only one I saw that did not fall into that category was a DNS cache poisoning bug. Besides being difficult to exploit usefully, it applies to a DNS server daemon that doesn't even run in Mac OS X unless you explicitly enable the name server by editing config files (or in the GUI in Mac OS X Server).
From the parent poster above yours.
Put up or shut up. Exploit something or go back to writing shitty Delphi code that's worthy of thedailywtf.com.
Zero drive-bys for OSX versus... how many ever for Windows, I can't even count anymore.
Everytime APK posts I have a weird flashback to TimeCube.com
This must be what Acid flashbacks are like.
No, seriously. Windows more secure than OSX? Put up or shut up. Release some code or go home.
It doesn't move products. Why does anyone care?
Frankly I'd be afraid of the IT manager that purchased Oracle kit because it was in Iron Man 2.
I don't care about predictable.
SG:U really was a bummer. Every week. And it got worse thinking this could go on for 8, 9 or even more seasons.
I really like SciFi that doesn't glorify the military, Gundam's my favorite SciFi series(Gundam and it's follow up, Zeta, are both really antimilitary, and Wing way even more so to the point of beating you up with the point with a bat).
iPod + iTunes integration was the innovation, plus the pretty slick and easy to use UI. I've seen people puzzled by iRiver and Archos devices have no problems with iPods.
"If we had just grabbed the Intel Pentium chip and done a one-way and two-way pizza box with Solaris on it, Linux never would have happened. And we would have hit that whole next wave that was post-2000 and we would have had all the little startups.
McNealy forgets that Linux was a labor of love. If Solaris had shipped on commodity x86 hardware from Sun, that wouldn't have changed the game. The initial userbase behind Linux were the hackers who had been doing work on it in university and in their spare time. When it came for dot-coms to hit the web, everyone already knew Linux. Even if Sun hardware was cheap, no one knew Solaris.
Do apps running session saving restore the entire state of the app or does it just restart the app?
Program manager was one of the few things in Windows 3.x I liked.
Now only if OSX could get packed in a decent version of solitare I can throw away this Packard Bell 486 I've been using since 1994.