Let me answer the one actual question you posed to me, in your response to my first point. You asked "why", and the answer is quite simple.
For some time now I've been somewhat in the market for a small form factor PC to use with my TV. I've not got around to choosing one yet, because it's not the highest of priorities. Ideally I'd like something that vaguely resembles a games console, but is in fact a full-fledged PC.
I want to play some games on it, but I also would like to use it for other things like media playback. I'd like to be able to install games from other sources than Steam too, so openness is an issue.
Why I asked about other distributions is simply because I have a distaste for Ubuntu Linux.
The Steam box seems as though it has a chance of fitting these specifications pretty well. If I "bought a PC" I'd likely get something that doesn't resemble just another set top box. That would be fine, but not ideal. Also, I'm (unlike a lot of PC users) quite happy to have someone else pick my hardware configuration for me, as long as they pick one that works well.
Actually I'm not used to doing so. I've not been a regular user of Linux for quite some time. You're still correct to say that I don't see it as a problem, while some people might. Those people might well be under a misapprehension about how hard the process actually is though.
Don't you think that 'threatens' is still too strong of a word? I'm not fool enough to imagine my custom to be important enough that I can threaten Steam by offering to withdraw it.
In truth, I'm a Steam customer and will remain one, regardless. The "Steam Box" would potentially be a nice adjunct to the existing business relationship between is.
As was suggested in another reply, I'd have to at least look at the Steam Box even if it differed from the idea I have in mind. I could find all kinds of uses for a nice set top box that runs Linux. Preferably not Ubuntu Linux, hence my first two points.
OK then. You're right. That was wrong of me.
How about if I just want them to not explictly prevent it from running on any given distro? It is entirely unrealistic to expect them to support it on every distribution, but I'd want there to be no obstacles placed in the way of any given distro.
I never found that older applications were broken under Linux. They usually just required (at worst) for you to install an older version of a shared library, which you can do side-by-side with the current version.
Sometimes it was necessary to compile afresh, that was fine though. A good makefile renders this automatic.
My Linux knowledge is ancient though. The Kernel still had a major version starting with 2 when I last used it. My knowledge may be outdated or otherwise faulty.
Not quite sure what you're saying... that it is expensive to educate a child? If so, then how is that different from everything else about having one? It's why I don't have any, or one reason at least. You have to commit to a very expensive path.
I think that like the rest of your constitution, it sounds great in theory. In practice your constitution means almost nothing, and was described as "just a piece of paper" by one of your recent presidents.
The church my parents attend is pretty small, but they get enough in tithes and gifts to be able to afford brand new computers better than I can have for myself. As well as some other extremely fancy electronic toys.
If that proved to be true, and there were logs to prove the vehicle was not properly fuelled, then it would be entirely the fault of said mission control engineers that the vehicle did not perform as anticipated.
There was nothing in that post that can be described as an "ad hominem" attack, or even as an attack of any kind. As for obesity being 'normal', I suggest you take a look around you. The word 'normal' doesn't mean "they way we want things to be", it means "the way things are".
Buying music on MD was always a bad idea anyway. It was a more compressed format than CD, and who needs that? I just did like you and the previous post. Copied my music by playing each track in real time. Never had a NetMD.
Apparently they do have a claim, or we wouldn't see this article. Whether the claim is valid or not is a matter I'm hardly qualified to judge. I'm just looking at what they appear to be claiming.
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Let me answer the one actual question you posed to me, in your response to my first point. You asked "why", and the answer is quite simple.
For some time now I've been somewhat in the market for a small form factor PC to use with my TV. I've not got around to choosing one yet, because it's not the highest of priorities. Ideally I'd like something that vaguely resembles a games console, but is in fact a full-fledged PC.
I want to play some games on it, but I also would like to use it for other things like media playback. I'd like to be able to install games from other sources than Steam too, so openness is an issue.
Why I asked about other distributions is simply because I have a distaste for Ubuntu Linux.
The Steam box seems as though it has a chance of fitting these specifications pretty well. If I "bought a PC" I'd likely get something that doesn't resemble just another set top box. That would be fine, but not ideal. Also, I'm (unlike a lot of PC users) quite happy to have someone else pick my hardware configuration for me, as long as they pick one that works well.
Actually I'm not used to doing so. I've not been a regular user of Linux for quite some time. You're still correct to say that I don't see it as a problem, while some people might. Those people might well be under a misapprehension about how hard the process actually is though.
Don't you think that 'threatens' is still too strong of a word? I'm not fool enough to imagine my custom to be important enough that I can threaten Steam by offering to withdraw it. In truth, I'm a Steam customer and will remain one, regardless. The "Steam Box" would potentially be a nice adjunct to the existing business relationship between is. As was suggested in another reply, I'd have to at least look at the Steam Box even if it differed from the idea I have in mind. I could find all kinds of uses for a nice set top box that runs Linux. Preferably not Ubuntu Linux, hence my first two points.
OK then. You're right. That was wrong of me. How about if I just want them to not explictly prevent it from running on any given distro? It is entirely unrealistic to expect them to support it on every distribution, but I'd want there to be no obstacles placed in the way of any given distro.
I'm being realistic. What kind of idiot would imagine that anything involving Steam won't use DRM?
Maybe you're right. If that is the case then I won't buy one. I'm sure enough people will.
I imagine it being an option. Possibly an inferior option. I'd play that kind of game on a desktop machine, personally.
I never found that older applications were broken under Linux. They usually just required (at worst) for you to install an older version of a shared library, which you can do side-by-side with the current version. Sometimes it was necessary to compile afresh, that was fine though. A good makefile renders this automatic. My Linux knowledge is ancient though. The Kernel still had a major version starting with 2 when I last used it. My knowledge may be outdated or otherwise faulty.
1) The hardware is open so that you can (if you wish) put a different Linux distribution on it.
2) If the Steam Box software works on any distribution you so install.
3) The games are protected only by Steam's own DRM and not encumbered by anything more onerous.
4) All games use the controller. The keyboard and mouse can be an option, but it should not be the only option.
I know this makes it nothing more than a nice small form factor PC with a standard spec. I'm happy for it to be exactly that.
Not quite sure what you're saying... that it is expensive to educate a child? If so, then how is that different from everything else about having one? It's why I don't have any, or one reason at least. You have to commit to a very expensive path.
I think that like the rest of your constitution, it sounds great in theory. In practice your constitution means almost nothing, and was described as "just a piece of paper" by one of your recent presidents.
The church my parents attend is pretty small, but they get enough in tithes and gifts to be able to afford brand new computers better than I can have for myself. As well as some other extremely fancy electronic toys.
Recycled, used... is there so much of a difference, ultimately?
Only if The Onion actually meant what they write, though. Scary thing about RyanAir is that the bad things you've heard can be reliably sourced.
RyanAir is suitable only for those who don't value their lives or their peace of mind.
If that proved to be true, and there were logs to prove the vehicle was not properly fuelled, then it would be entirely the fault of said mission control engineers that the vehicle did not perform as anticipated.
It isn't "for limited times" anymore, so... nobody is sticking to that particular clause.
Detecting light? That would be one of the normal five senses, actually.
If it has a gas engine, in what way is it "100% electric"? That's a headscratcher for me.
At least one famous person shares my name. Which one of us owns the dot com rights?
There was nothing in that post that can be described as an "ad hominem" attack, or even as an attack of any kind. As for obesity being 'normal', I suggest you take a look around you. The word 'normal' doesn't mean "they way we want things to be", it means "the way things are".
Sounds like he's among those responsible for restricting it.
Buying music on MD was always a bad idea anyway. It was a more compressed format than CD, and who needs that? I just did like you and the previous post. Copied my music by playing each track in real time. Never had a NetMD.
I admit that I'm only making an assumption, but I would have thought it was covered by law, and as such, no specific agreement is required.
This link strongly implies that it's covered by the laws of the state, though I admit I don't know the specific laws of this state.
Apparently they do have a claim, or we wouldn't see this article. Whether the claim is valid or not is a matter I'm hardly qualified to judge. I'm just looking at what they appear to be claiming.