I just finished a round of college admissions (luckily for me I didn't hear about this "hack" until after it hit the news, or else I probably what have done it).. BUT
Why are people not blaming ApplyYourself? The first thing any of these colleges should have done is canceled their contract with this vendor for screwing up. It's not hte kids fault the data was public. ApplyYourself is the worst college application system of all the ones I encountered. Terrible interface, ugly forms, confusing system, security holes such as these. The number one thing these schools could do to improve the admissions process, is to drop apply yourself.
If anyone wants a free business opportunity - create and sell an admissions package that kicks applyYourself security holed riddled self - I promise you, it wouldn't be hard.
Syncing will work (It supports the serial profile AFAIK). PalmOne even made a wizard to make it easier to set that up. And headsets work, it's simply that it appears that the bluetooth dial-up-networking profile can be selectively turned on and off.
As Senior Editor of TreoCentral.com, the author of the linked article, and overall the man in charge of the bounty, I think it is fair for me to answer the question of why we had a time limit. I do not believe that I addressed this well in the article, so I'll do it here.
First and foremost, I have other responsibilities come September, and I would have been unable to dedicate the time needed keep this bounty running, answer questions, test possible results, etc. The bounty had an end time because it needed closure at some point - we chose to do a post-collection method, and as each month went by more of the credit cards used for the pledges expired.
Secondly, when I started the bounty I had full knowledge of the next generation Treo, currently rumored to be released at the end of October/early November. At the time, specific accurate info on the next generation Treo was publicly unknown, so "want" for bluetooth on the current Treo was high. However, I was aware that this info would leak sometime over the summer, and it did - through an article I wrote a few weeks later. Subsequently, after photos were leaked in August, support from users who may have wanted this solution waned. I'm not saying that all support disappeared - we have many users who really want bluetooth on their current Treo, but many others are now resolved to simply upgrade to the next generation device. At the time, I thought the next gen Treo was going to be released early september, so the goal was to have the end of the bluetooth bounty somewhat neatly coincide with the introduction of the bluetooth compatible Treo.
It's debatable whether 3 months would have been enough time to complete a driver. I have seen some very complex Palm OS applications developed in a much shorter time period. Even so, if in the last weeks of the bounty a developer said "I'm making progress", I would have asked our users to let us extend it. But no developer did, and as explained in the article, the prospects of having a working driver to our specifications were grim.
The original source for the images, was a user who posted them on TreoCentral.com. All linked sites above reference TreoCentral.com as the orginal source.
TreoCentral also was the first site with reliable information about the Treo ACE - most specifications came from an article that they had posted in July, but was quickly pulled. A mirror of that original expose can be found here.
I could not find any patent apps, or any FCC approval documents by Novinit, BUT they did trademark the name jackito for use in laptops/pdas/handhelds and the like back in 2002: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=s 0knan.2.1
Trademark's aren't free, and this was years ago, so I take this as proof that it's real.
I hope people realize how amazing this hardware appears to be, or at least the manufactoring of it. Look - it's a build to order PDA: , the first ever. I have been following this industry for 5 years (I run a large pda website), and never has a company made a true build to order PDA.
This company? Which screen you want, color, b&w, or bistable - a technology that I thought was still in testing! This may be the first use of bistable screens in a large device. (and how about the fact that it's turning the screen into a flat panel speaker - isn't this what synaptics wants to do with the laptop touchpad?)
And look, you can make the case whatever color you want, but also add many modules, like internal bluetooth, fm radio, add internal memory, internal mp3 player, internal microphone. This PDA will have exactly what you need, and not what you don't need.
It's a large device, but it has some cool hardware. I'm not sure about the specilized cpu's, I worry about the speed of this device, and who knows what is going on with the software, or data entry, but this company, at least in manufactoring techniques and componants used, could be changing the PDA industry as we know it. The battery life they claim is incredible! I am excited to hear and learn more about it.
And one more thing - the interfaces are all like the "3D" browseable interfaces we have heard about for awhile, they really are "tactile".. reading through their stuff, it's a huge jump in how we look at the GUI. This company is thinking so far outside the box. WOW.
Since OS X offers an X11 window manager, and runs on BSD - could this be made to run on OS X? Does anyone want to try to get it to work, and make a predone binary/package for those who are less technically inclined?
Or will skype release the final version on both OS X and linux? How hard is this cross-os coding?
I'm not sure if this post will get read by anyone as it is so late to the discusison, but I am Senior Editor of TreoCentral.com. (One of the sites that some people have mentioned in comments). We have a very active discussion board.. some news.. just a lot of people there... yadda yadda yadda.. It's a great site, but then I'm biased.
In response to your question, yes I use a smartphone everyday. I use it more for a convergence device - I like getting my email, I like browsing the web, and I like the ease of dialing from my 400 some contacts. I used a non smartphone for quite awhile, it was a t68i so I was able to sync it with my mac. I mention this becuase all of my contacts on my palm at the time were synced onto the t68i. Navigating the address book on one of those phones when 400 contacts were loaded was disgusting. The number feature that makes me come back to the treo even when it wrongs me is the ease of use that I have in dialing my outgoing numbers.
I have yet to have a real crash on my Treo (a hard reset for those non palm people). However, different palm apps depending on the quality of the code to crash it for me at least once a week. The Treo automaticly reboots and most of the time reconnects toe the Sprint network. It is annoying, but it is not a dibilitating problem.
The Treo's keyboard is excellent, and I often find myself replying to quick emails and browsing the web. The flexibility it offers is unmatched: no other device can claim as many third party programs as a palm os smartphone can. Plus, there are MANY independent developers who are working (sometimes through our forums nonetheless) to make utilities that address many of the Treo's software shortcomings.
The age for the smartphone is still to come though... The integration is not completly there yet - my calendar is not linked to my phone call history, or my emails... I feel that the true age of the smartphone is still a few generations off software and hardwarewise. The ability to integrate everything is there, yet it is not being done.
Hardwarewise there is a fair amount of negative things to say about the Treo 600 - but PalmOne's software is superior to the competition and for me this makes up for any hardware issues. That said, this fall PalmOne should ship a massivly improved Treo that will make using the Treo much much better.
If you are hesitant about buying into the smartphone market, I would reccomend to wait until fall and get the 3rd generation of these devices.
This has to be the geekiest thing that I have ever seen in my life. I'm not sure if watching the video of it, or actually doing it is worse. Probably watching the video. *sigh*. Will it run on OS X? When will they add the -papajohns option to get quality pizza?
I'm 17, and senior editor of a website that is read by about? 13,000 people a day, and trust me, my writing skills have greatly improved. I write daily news and reviews, and over the last 5 years working at this site have developed a unique style.
There are two things that have contributed to my becoming a better writer: One, writing lots - my "hobby" has made me write more than I would of ever written normally at this stage of my life, and two, when you are read by 15,000 people, a couple people out of those 15000 point out every little error you make.. and I have learned from those errors.
My main focus is reviews and analysis of blah, and the experience i have gained online has shown up well in school through my commentary's and other literary analysis thatI do, my english grades are much improved over where they were several years ago, and each year get better. (If only I could make these skills blatently evident in college applications *cough* columbia's fu foundation *cough*).
School, in tandom with the web have made me a much better, and much closer to a college level writer. I think the key thing about the web is that it has removed the age barrier. I started in 7th grade, and I wrote from a kids perspective. As I grew up, my writing also grew up to the point that now only do I do the writing, I also run much of the site. I don't think that most of my readers know that I am still in highschool. I am infinitly grateful for the web to have presented me with thise opportinities. I frankly don't know where I would be without it. (I started using the web in '93... thanks to a brand new school with a brand new computer lab)
This seems simliar to ideas that were proposed by Citizen 3 years ago. See This article from Cnet 3 years ago. It details citizen's development of a credit card sized device that could plug into the Handspring Visor. (I remembered this article from my work at visorcentral 3 years ago)
"Handspring and watch maker Citizen are tinkering with a prototype add-on for the Visor handheld that would allow people to copy information from their device onto a second, credit card-sized organizer."
TreoCentral.com also has an excellent preview.revview of the Treo 600 here. TreoCentral claims to be the #1 community website for the Handspring Treo - they have reviews, news, a store and more.
The thing that makes TreoCentral great though is their very active discussion board.
My favorite way is to unplug all the fans from the computer, and watch the temperature rise -before smoke comes from inside.. muhahaha. This works better on a 100+ degree day when the heat cannot dissapate that well.
While I love the idea of ridding my windows desktop from any microsoft software other than what is required (windows), Thunderbird needs to majorly work on it's speed before it is of any use to me. I use a 500 mhz k6-2 with 512 MB ram, and often I can't type an email message because the program is so slow. However, it deals with IMAP much better than outlook- which makes my life much easier. Plus I can match skins to firebird!
IS it really worth ruining a persons life, if he is found guilty, just becuase you as a sys admin had to deal with an inconvience. Windows update didn't go down, maybe some of your time was spent dealing with it, but that is YOUR JOB. And if your network isn't up to date with updates, IMHO, it's your damn fault.
Sadly he'l be the scaegoat while all the network admins, microsoft etc gets to go free. I just don't think that any punishment they give him will fit the crime... Personally i think he just needs to do some community service, what he did was wrong, but nothing truely bad.
Chasomint has here a table comparing the 1.6 Ghz G5 (slowest available) to 6 other windows machines. It is a complicated photoshop benchmark. The 1.6 Ghz G5 gets beat by the single P4 3.06, however it is the 2nd fastest machine there by benchmark wins. Note that the 1.6 Ghz machine is the lowend G5, and has nowhere near the performance of the dual 2.0 ghz G5's that apple uses to test.
This to me is just scary. Yes he was giving instructions on how to make chemical reactions work. Whoopdeedo! We live in America, and in the america i grew up in we don't censor information from the public. And he wasn't realyl even giving instructions - he never (AFAIK) disseminated the information, he just linked to it. It's like being arressted for telling people that you KNOW how to make bombs....
But the most scary thing of all is this qoute from this website: "(5) he cannot associate with any person or group that seeks to change the government in any way (be that environmental, social justice, political, economic, etc.), "
How can the courts do that? This guy has rights that cannot under any circumstances be taken away. Part of those rights are freedom of speech - expecially political freedom of speech - and policital freedom of speech again AFAIK is only when you want to try to change the government somehow.
This guy got shafted by a horrible judge who shouldn't be allowed to work. If i were president, or governer i would pardon this man becuase he doesn't deserve to have his life ruined for such a simple thing as disseminating information.
As a highschooler what am I to think growing up? Do we really have our Bill of Rights anymore? Every day i see more news about parts of it being chipped away - of course all in the name of protecting the country from terrorism. (since free speech, habius corpus, etc are an evil evil thing... ) BULLSHIT!
Anyone else see these shapes? butterfly swimmer recycle logo WWE Smackdown Enterance Helping Hands Evil Eyes Person Gasping Turtle man Boys Spitting Batman fighting Batman flying
with an end password of brrowehsespgtnbgbgbg
Hmm, maybe i shouldn't of shared that. This seems to be a really cool system. I look forward to MS adding it to passport!
TreoCentral has a lot of detail in their article... Too bad the camera can't take video, but it is cool the integration that Handspring gave with it. Quadband GSM is cool, along with all the other tech details that were said.
What position does this put Handspring in now, and when will this become something that is not just vaporware?
I don't have a link, but news.com.com.com (Cnet) has a very nice 7 minute long video that shows the device in full - much better than the Jeff Hawkins Handspring video.
Slashdot Mirror
What's up with all the stories and no comments?
I just finished a round of college admissions (luckily for me I didn't hear about this "hack" until after it hit the news, or else I probably what have done it).. BUT
Why are people not blaming ApplyYourself? The first thing any of these colleges should have done is canceled their contract with this vendor for screwing up. It's not hte kids fault the data was public. ApplyYourself is the worst college application system of all the ones I encountered. Terrible interface, ugly forms, confusing system, security holes such as these. The number one thing these schools could do to improve the admissions process, is to drop apply yourself.
If anyone wants a free business opportunity - create and sell an admissions package that kicks applyYourself security holed riddled self - I promise you, it wouldn't be hard.
Syncing will work (It supports the serial profile AFAIK). PalmOne even made a wizard to make it easier to set that up. And headsets work, it's simply that it appears that the bluetooth dial-up-networking profile can be selectively turned on and off.
As Senior Editor of TreoCentral.com, the author of the linked article, and overall the man in charge of the bounty, I think it is fair for me to answer the question of why we had a time limit. I do not believe that I addressed this well in the article, so I'll do it here.
First and foremost, I have other responsibilities come September, and I would have been unable to dedicate the time needed keep this bounty running, answer questions, test possible results, etc. The bounty had an end time because it needed closure at some point - we chose to do a post-collection method, and as each month went by more of the credit cards used for the pledges expired.
Secondly, when I started the bounty I had full knowledge of the next generation Treo, currently rumored to be released at the end of October/early November. At the time, specific accurate info on the next generation Treo was publicly unknown, so "want" for bluetooth on the current Treo was high. However, I was aware that this info would leak sometime over the summer, and it did - through an article I wrote a few weeks later. Subsequently, after photos were leaked in August, support from users who may have wanted this solution waned. I'm not saying that all support disappeared - we have many users who really want bluetooth on their current Treo, but many others are now resolved to simply upgrade to the next generation device. At the time, I thought the next gen Treo was going to be released early september, so the goal was to have the end of the bluetooth bounty somewhat neatly coincide with the introduction of the bluetooth compatible Treo.
It's debatable whether 3 months would have been enough time to complete a driver. I have seen some very complex Palm OS applications developed in a much shorter time period. Even so, if in the last weeks of the bounty a developer said "I'm making progress", I would have asked our users to let us extend it. But no developer did, and as explained in the article, the prospects of having a working driver to our specifications were grim.
-Michael Ducker
The original source for the images, was a user who posted them on TreoCentral.com. All linked sites above reference TreoCentral.com as the orginal source.
They were first posted here: Discuss.TreoCentral.com
TreoCentral also was the first site with reliable information about the Treo ACE - most specifications came from an article that they had posted in July, but was quickly pulled. A mirror of that original expose can be found here.
Well Said James. ;)
I could not find any patent apps, or any FCC approval documents by Novinit, BUT they did trademark the name jackito for use in laptops/pdas/handhelds and the like back in 2002: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=s 0knan.2.1
Trademark's aren't free, and this was years ago, so I take this as proof that it's real.
I hope people realize how amazing this hardware appears to be, or at least the manufactoring of it. Look - it's a build to order PDA: , the first ever. I have been following this industry for 5 years (I run a large pda website), and never has a company made a true build to order PDA.
This company? Which screen you want, color, b&w, or bistable - a technology that I thought was still in testing! This may be the first use of bistable screens in a large device. (and how about the fact that it's turning the screen into a flat panel speaker - isn't this what synaptics wants to do with the laptop touchpad?)
And look, you can make the case whatever color you want, but also add many modules, like internal bluetooth, fm radio, add internal memory, internal mp3 player, internal microphone. This PDA will have exactly what you need, and not what you don't need.
It's a large device, but it has some cool hardware. I'm not sure about the specilized cpu's, I worry about the speed of this device, and who knows what is going on with the software, or data entry, but this company, at least in manufactoring techniques and componants used, could be changing the PDA industry as we know it. The battery life they claim is incredible! I am excited to hear and learn more about it.
And one more thing - the interfaces are all like the "3D" browseable interfaces we have heard about for awhile, they really are "tactile".. reading through their stuff, it's a huge jump in how we look at the GUI. This company is thinking so far outside the box. WOW.
Since OS X offers an X11 window manager, and runs on BSD - could this be made to run on OS X? Does anyone want to try to get it to work, and make a predone binary/package for those who are less technically inclined?
Or will skype release the final version on both OS X and linux? How hard is this cross-os coding?
I'm not sure if this post will get read by anyone as it is so late to the discusison, but I am Senior Editor of TreoCentral.com. (One of the sites that some people have mentioned in comments). We have a very active discussion board.. some news.. just a lot of people there... yadda yadda yadda.. It's a great site, but then I'm biased.
In response to your question, yes I use a smartphone everyday. I use it more for a convergence device - I like getting my email, I like browsing the web, and I like the ease of dialing from my 400 some contacts. I used a non smartphone for quite awhile, it was a t68i so I was able to sync it with my mac. I mention this becuase all of my contacts on my palm at the time were synced onto the t68i. Navigating the address book on one of those phones when 400 contacts were loaded was disgusting. The number feature that makes me come back to the treo even when it wrongs me is the ease of use that I have in dialing my outgoing numbers.
I have yet to have a real crash on my Treo (a hard reset for those non palm people). However, different palm apps depending on the quality of the code to crash it for me at least once a week. The Treo automaticly reboots and most of the time reconnects toe the Sprint network. It is annoying, but it is not a dibilitating problem.
The Treo's keyboard is excellent, and I often find myself replying to quick emails and browsing the web. The flexibility it offers is unmatched: no other device can claim as many third party programs as a palm os smartphone can. Plus, there are MANY independent developers who are working (sometimes through our forums nonetheless) to make utilities that address many of the Treo's software shortcomings.
The age for the smartphone is still to come though... The integration is not completly there yet - my calendar is not linked to my phone call history, or my emails... I feel that the true age of the smartphone is still a few generations off software and hardwarewise. The ability to integrate everything is there, yet it is not being done.
Hardwarewise there is a fair amount of negative things to say about the Treo 600 - but PalmOne's software is superior to the competition and for me this makes up for any hardware issues. That said, this fall PalmOne should ship a massivly improved Treo that will make using the Treo much much better.
If you are hesitant about buying into the smartphone market, I would reccomend to wait until fall and get the 3rd generation of these devices.
This has to be the geekiest thing that I have ever seen in my life. I'm not sure if watching the video of it, or actually doing it is worse. Probably watching the video. *sigh*. Will it run on OS X? When will they add the -papajohns option to get quality pizza?
Is not announcing your product an entire year ahead of launch - giving your competitors plenty of time to catch up.
Case in point: Apple suprising everyone with iTMS - and than not getting a windows version out until all the other win music stores were released.
I'm 17, and senior editor of a website that is read by about? 13,000 people a day, and trust me, my writing skills have greatly improved. I write daily news and reviews, and over the last 5 years working at this site have developed a unique style.
There are two things that have contributed to my becoming a better writer: One, writing lots - my "hobby" has made me write more than I would of ever written normally at this stage of my life, and two, when you are read by 15,000 people, a couple people out of those 15000 point out every little error you make.. and I have learned from those errors.
My main focus is reviews and analysis of blah, and the experience i have gained online has shown up well in school through my commentary's and other literary analysis thatI do, my english grades are much improved over where they were several years ago, and each year get better. (If only I could make these skills blatently evident in college applications *cough* columbia's fu foundation *cough*).
School, in tandom with the web have made me a much better, and much closer to a college level writer. I think the key thing about the web is that it has removed the age barrier. I started in 7th grade, and I wrote from a kids perspective. As I grew up, my writing also grew up to the point that now only do I do the writing, I also run much of the site. I don't think that most of my readers know that I am still in highschool. I am infinitly grateful for the web to have presented me with thise opportinities. I frankly don't know where I would be without it. (I started using the web in '93... thanks to a brand new school with a brand new computer lab)
This seems simliar to ideas that were proposed by Citizen 3 years ago. See This article from Cnet 3 years ago. It details citizen's development of a credit card sized device that could plug into the Handspring Visor. (I remembered this article from my work at visorcentral 3 years ago)
"Handspring and watch maker Citizen are tinkering with a prototype add-on for the Visor handheld that would allow people to copy information from their device onto a second, credit card-sized organizer."
Citizen also helped co-develop the Rex.
TreoCentral.com also has an excellent preview.revview of the Treo 600 here. TreoCentral claims to be the #1 community website for the Handspring Treo - they have reviews, news, a store and more.
The thing that makes TreoCentral great though is their very active discussion board.
My favorite way is to unplug all the fans from the computer, and watch the temperature rise -before smoke comes from inside.. muhahaha. This works better on a 100+ degree day when the heat cannot dissapate that well.
While I love the idea of ridding my windows desktop from any microsoft software other than what is required (windows), Thunderbird needs to majorly work on it's speed before it is of any use to me. I use a 500 mhz k6-2 with 512 MB ram, and often I can't type an email message because the program is so slow. However, it deals with IMAP much better than outlook- which makes my life much easier. Plus I can match skins to firebird!
IS it really worth ruining a persons life, if he is found guilty, just becuase you as a sys admin had to deal with an inconvience. Windows update didn't go down, maybe some of your time was spent dealing with it, but that is YOUR JOB. And if your network isn't up to date with updates, IMHO, it's your damn fault.
Sadly he'l be the scaegoat while all the network admins, microsoft etc gets to go free. I just don't think that any punishment they give him will fit the crime... Personally i think he just needs to do some community service, what he did was wrong, but nothing truely bad.
Chasomint has here a table comparing the 1.6 Ghz G5 (slowest available) to 6 other windows machines. It is a complicated photoshop benchmark. The 1.6 Ghz G5 gets beat by the single P4 3.06, however it is the 2nd fastest machine there by benchmark wins. Note that the 1.6 Ghz machine is the lowend G5, and has nowhere near the performance of the dual 2.0 ghz G5's that apple uses to test.
Try this query Seems google calculator (nifty new feature) knows the answer to life, the universe, and everything to!
This to me is just scary. Yes he was giving instructions on how to make chemical reactions work. Whoopdeedo! We live in America, and in the america i grew up in we don't censor information from the public. And he wasn't realyl even giving instructions - he never (AFAIK) disseminated the information, he just linked to it. It's like being arressted for telling people that you KNOW how to make bombs....
But the most scary thing of all is this qoute from this website: "(5) he cannot associate with any person or group that seeks to change the government in any way (be that environmental, social justice, political, economic, etc.), "
How can the courts do that? This guy has rights that cannot under any circumstances be taken away. Part of those rights are freedom of speech - expecially political freedom of speech - and policital freedom of speech again AFAIK is only when you want to try to change the government somehow.
This guy got shafted by a horrible judge who shouldn't be allowed to work. If i were president, or governer i would pardon this man becuase he doesn't deserve to have his life ruined for such a simple thing as disseminating information.
As a highschooler what am I to think growing up? Do we really have our Bill of Rights anymore? Every day i see more news about parts of it being chipped away - of course all in the name of protecting the country from terrorism. (since free speech, habius corpus, etc are an evil evil thing... ) BULLSHIT!
Anyone else see these shapes?
butterfly swimmer
recycle logo
WWE Smackdown Enterance
Helping Hands
Evil Eyes
Person Gasping
Turtle man
Boys Spitting
Batman fighting
Batman flying
with an end password of brrowehsespgtnbgbgbg
Hmm, maybe i shouldn't of shared that. This seems to be a really cool system. I look forward to MS adding it to passport!
TreoCentral has a lot of detail in their article... Too bad the camera can't take video, but it is cool the integration that Handspring gave with it. Quadband GSM is cool, along with all the other tech details that were said.
What position does this put Handspring in now, and when will this become something that is not just vaporware?
I don't have a link, but news.com.com.com (Cnet) has a very nice 7 minute long video that shows the device in full - much better than the Jeff Hawkins Handspring video.
Why is the story on the front different from the story displayed with the comments by one line?