However, if the governing body of a country desires a US presence and a non-governmental organization decides to use violence to oppose that presence then the application of force either by the the governing body or the US on behalf of the governing body is essential to ensure the rule of law. Caving to their demands or ignoring their actions is not an acceptable outcome.
Thank you for illustrating what I was talking about. You're insisting on your moral rights, not of fixing the problem.
We got "hostility from the Muslim world" because: [...]
More than that. The nations of Europe have been pwning the Middle East since before the USA was a superpower.
The British tried to put their man on the throne in Afghanistan during the 19th Century. (Like the Soviets and the USA, they found that it was easy to put their man in charge, hard to keep it that way. For one major expedition, only one man survived to tell what happened.)
By the beginning of WWII, European nations pwned all the Muslim countries from Morocco to Iraq, maybe a few more.
Imagine what would happen if the US government or law enforcement agencies started making drone kills within our own borders, saying "we only target terrorists and drug lords; so sorry if we occasionally hit a church gathering or a country club".
After pausing to consider how that would make you feel, imagine how we're making people in other countries feel.
The problem with the Western Powers is that they're always wrapping themselves in the banner of moral "rights". If we exploit the natives and some of them react violently, we have a "right" to respond with overwhelming force. After all, "they started it".
But this focus on presumed (and self-declared) rights is utterly incompatible with actually addressing the cause of the problem.
If we want peace with the Muslim world, we need to go home and quit treating them like subjects who are illegally camped on "our" oil supply.
the fact that they operate under the flag of an organisation of loosely connected cells rather than under the flag of a State, means that the Geneva Convention does not apply.
And naturally, governments will only pursue policies that abide by the Convention when they have to — never because they actually subscribe to the principles encoded into it.
Kind of like US politicians and law enforcement agencies vis à vis the Constitution.
can't help the feeling that any study about actual politics -especially the more questionable part of it- that will be presented to the public will be in favor of the status quo.
Certainly, if the government requested the study or produced it internally. But for studies done at universities and independent think tanks, the govenment and other powerful interests have limited ability to control the message.
By these qualifications, every twelve year old is a psychopath. Also, seriously, using periods? You mean, as in proper fucking writing? What else, proper capitalization of sentences and pronouns?
Maybe "anal retentive" is a slippery slope toward "psychopathic".
Wow, what a couple of fucking idiots. I'm not even going to bother to elaborate on this. Unless you made your slashdot account when you were a baby, then you might as well hand over your geek card with that low UID.
This code has a Wikipedia article for fuck sakes. It is entered on the NES (that's another name for Nintendo Entertainment System, which is a game console. You should be able to Google for those) controller at the title screen of a game. The code gave you the potential to beat the game without being fucking hardcore. The Wikipedia article for the code is named after the company that made the game.
You have a funny way of not bothering to elaborate on this...
... as it's FB I wrote off long ago - as G+ will surely one day join it - in the land of fad induced mass market websites. Anyone still using GeoCities or MySpace?
Meet the new Web, same as the old Web.
A 12-1/2 years ago when you watched the evening news or saw a commercial you got the distinct impression that both only existed to get you to visit their shiny new web site.
Now you get the distinct impression that they only exist to get you to visit their shiny new Facebook page.
Make a violent movie where people shoot each other, advertise it 24/7.
It hasn't yet been established that the fact that it was a Batman movie was relevant.
Maybe it was circumstantial, e.g. he knew the guy that stole his girl would be there, or something.
Maybe it was coincidental: e.g. he wanted to kill some random people, and noticed from the media buzz that a full house was expected for opening night.
And even if the movies batmanness was relevant, his acts might not have had anything to do with the movie's violence. Maybe he's just a member of a cult that thinks movies and comicbooks are the ultimate symbols of degenerate society.
So save your moralizing until we actually know something about what happened.
It felt like the script needed another good once-over and a trim. It's a thematic mess and takes about twice as long as it ought to to introduce the characters and (poorly, repetitively) present their motivations.
I actually didn't like the last one: too long, too tedious, too overblown, too overhyped.
If I go see this one at all, it will only be to make sure I get the jokes when I read Cleolinda's send-up.
People gotta get their political gigs in before the facts come out, because once the facts come out most agendas won't be able to find any support in it.
(Except for the True Believers, who'll continue to support their claims via conspiracy theories.)
The haves wanting more, whodathoughtit.
Sounds like Teh Man got to Dr. Vengosh.
Cue Simpsons episode with Burns served a 3-eyed fish.
When grant money is on the line science will reflect whatever is required to ensure continued financial support.
Right. Scientists are just trying to protect their paychecks, but the energy companies and their political shills are in it for the good of mankind.
Gotcha Republicans are greedy, Democrats are too stupid to dress themselves.
That actually describes US politics pretty well.
I thought it was going to say they held a patent on digging a hole in the ground.
If needed, I will throw piles of money at [lawyers] making sure they don't get a cent.
Completed that for you.
The lawyers - on one side or another - are the ones who are going to win no matter how the court rules.
I hope Notch gives it to them good.
Then he can upgrade his nym to 'Shaft'.
However, if the governing body of a country desires a US presence and a non-governmental organization decides to use violence to oppose that presence then the application of force either by the the governing body or the US on behalf of the governing body is essential to ensure the rule of law. Caving to their demands or ignoring their actions is not an acceptable outcome.
Thank you for illustrating what I was talking about. You're insisting on your moral rights, not of fixing the problem.
We got "hostility from the Muslim world" because: [...]
More than that. The nations of Europe have been pwning the Middle East since before the USA was a superpower.
The British tried to put their man on the throne in Afghanistan during the 19th Century. (Like the Soviets and the USA, they found that it was easy to put their man in charge, hard to keep it that way. For one major expedition, only one man survived to tell what happened.)
By the beginning of WWII, European nations pwned all the Muslim countries from Morocco to Iraq, maybe a few more.
Then there was the 1956 Suez Crisis.
Etc., etc., etc.
Imagine what would happen if the US government or law enforcement agencies started making drone kills within our own borders, saying "we only target terrorists and drug lords; so sorry if we occasionally hit a church gathering or a country club".
After pausing to consider how that would make you feel, imagine how we're making people in other countries feel.
The problem with the Western Powers is that they're always wrapping themselves in the banner of moral "rights". If we exploit the natives and some of them react violently, we have a "right" to respond with overwhelming force. After all, "they started it".
But this focus on presumed (and self-declared) rights is utterly incompatible with actually addressing the cause of the problem.
If we want peace with the Muslim world, we need to go home and quit treating them like subjects who are illegally camped on "our" oil supply.
the fact that they operate under the flag of an organisation of loosely connected cells rather than under the flag of a State, means that the Geneva Convention does not apply.
And naturally, governments will only pursue policies that abide by the Convention when they have to — never because they actually subscribe to the principles encoded into it.
Kind of like US politicians and law enforcement agencies vis à vis the Constitution.
can't help the feeling that any study about actual politics -especially the more questionable part of it- that will be presented to the public will be in favor of the status quo.
Certainly, if the government requested the study or produced it internally. But for studies done at universities and independent think tanks, the govenment and other powerful interests have limited ability to control the message.
Ron Paul’s “Audit The Fed” bill is a reminder of his tireless efforts to promote sound money and a more transparent Federal Reserve.
Now *that'* is indicative of a psychopath.
I especially note your use of rsquo, ldquo, and rdquo, and the absence of lsquo. We'll send *two* padded wagons to pick you up.
By these qualifications, every twelve year old is a psychopath. Also, seriously, using periods? You mean, as in proper fucking writing? What else, proper capitalization of sentences and pronouns?
Maybe "anal retentive" is a slippery slope toward "psychopathic".
No porn on holy days.
No, this is a parody of capitalism people make when they don't understand economics.
Actually, whenever someone makes a claim about capitalism, you don't even know what they mean by "capitalism".
Wow, what a couple of fucking idiots. I'm not even going to bother to elaborate on this. Unless you made your slashdot account when you were a baby, then you might as well hand over your geek card with that low UID.
This code has a Wikipedia article for fuck sakes. It is entered on the NES (that's another name for Nintendo Entertainment System, which is a game console. You should be able to Google for those) controller at the title screen of a game. The code gave you the potential to beat the game without being fucking hardcore. The Wikipedia article for the code is named after the company that made the game.
You have a funny way of not bothering to elaborate on this...
... as it's FB I wrote off long ago - as G+ will surely one day join it - in the land of fad induced mass market websites. Anyone still using GeoCities or MySpace?
Meet the new Web, same as the old Web.
A 12-1/2 years ago when you watched the evening news or saw a commercial you got the distinct impression that both only existed to get you to visit their shiny new web site.
Now you get the distinct impression that they only exist to get you to visit their shiny new Facebook page.
We're past due another dot-crash.
Make a violent movie where people shoot each other, advertise it 24/7.
It hasn't yet been established that the fact that it was a Batman movie was relevant.
Maybe it was circumstantial, e.g. he knew the guy that stole his girl would be there, or something.
Maybe it was coincidental: e.g. he wanted to kill some random people, and noticed from the media buzz that a full house was expected for opening night.
And even if the movies batmanness was relevant, his acts might not have had anything to do with the movie's violence. Maybe he's just a member of a cult that thinks movies and comicbooks are the ultimate symbols of degenerate society.
So save your moralizing until we actually know something about what happened.
I didn't like it much.
It felt like the script needed another good once-over and a trim. It's a thematic mess and takes about twice as long as it ought to to introduce the characters and (poorly, repetitively) present their motivations.
I actually didn't like the last one: too long, too tedious, too overblown, too overhyped.
If I go see this one at all, it will only be to make sure I get the jokes when I read Cleolinda's send-up.
I want a Batman movie like "Sin City" or "Watchmen"
Batman with a big blue bent wiener? That'll scare the supervillians off.
Any substantial cyberwar will turn into a substantial shooting war within a matter of days.
Put that in your policy think tank and smoke it.
Yeah, look what a disaster that Y2K thing turned out to be.
How much effort went into preventing it?
I wrote a memo in the early 90s telling management that they should develop a policy of fixing YY code any time a program came up for a bug fix.
Of course they didn't listen. Thank all the gods, I was gone before the panic set in.
Never let a tragedy go to waste.
People gotta get their political gigs in before the facts come out, because once the facts come out most agendas won't be able to find any support in it.
(Except for the True Believers, who'll continue to support their claims via conspiracy theories.)