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Rarely... have a friend who was a DJ at the local pop station; they would mark down the names of people who requested the crap they were going to play anyways, but they would never actually go out of their way to play something that was requested (ever called and requested something and had them tell you "I'll see if I can get it in, but I don't think I'll have time to play that..."?)
Often their playlist was mapped out before they even came in for their shift.
Don't even get me started. After looking at how their RPMs are built, it's a wonder SuSE runs at all. Half of the ones I looked at *can't* be built as anyone but root. So if they miss a file, there's no way of knowing during QA, because "it works for me". Making spec files without a BuildRoot is like going whoring without a condom. You may get out ok, but most likely you just got screwed.
We supported SuSE in our previous release of our software where I work, but I've given up after spending almost a day trying to coax their system into compliance, when I can build 20 meg of code on RedHat 6.x and 7.x, mandrake 7.2 and 8.0 in 2 hours from a single spec file.
...if someone would post some kind of small reply to this article, and then, get this, make some kind of funny disclaimer at the end of his message! Hilarious! I wonder if anyone else has though of that?!
Yeah, I've had it for a couple of years, love it. What's *really* weird is I had just picked it up and started re-reading them all a couple of weeks ago. Upon telling a couple of my friends, it turned out they were both doing the same thing. Downright spooky.
Yeah, I've been playing with Jabber for about 3 weeks now (running our own server with AIM/ICQ/MSN/etc. support -- whee!). I've been playing around, making a Jabber bot just to play around and get a feel for things, and I have to say, not only is the code nice, the protocol is one of the cleanest I've seen. It's really nice to work with. IM may be a fairly simple idea, but the Jabber group has definitely done a very clean implementation.
I started a phone company, and did allow other phone companies to route phone calls to my system, but didn't allow regular phones to talk to our new custom holographic 3-d videoconferencing system.
They're implicitly saying, "we're allowing basic transport to work OK, but still want to offer an incentive to use our service directly." Whether that's good or bad is up to you, but don't try to change the argument into something it isn't. It's not about AOL denying service. It's only about offering extras to their customers.
I didn't mean to. I meant to make it sound like the responsibility it is. =)
So your argument is that people who don't want to risk being exposed to the most vile atrocities at any time of the day or night shouldn't buy TVs?
No, I'm saying that you make it sound like the only 2 choices are to have no gun in the house, or to have one loaded, cocked, and taped to a chair pointing at your kid with a string going from your dog to the trigger. (Apologies to the Road Warrior.) There are ways to limit your children's TV choices without the government stepping in and saying "ass" is a bad word. Especially when, for the most part, "dirty" language is only dirty because we all say it is.
Precisely. So I don't leave armed hand grenades near my children. Do you think it's ok for broadcasters to make televisions equally dangerous, psychologically?
But that's entirely my point. If you've taught your children right and wrong, there's very little on TV that's (in my opinion) even close to "equally dangerous, psychologically" as a gun. You won't let a gun near your child, but you think TV is just as bad, and you *don't* limit their exposure?
Now, I probably come off more argumentative than I really should, but I'm playing a little bit of devil's advocate. Regardless, the majority of consumers want the trash we have on TV. That's why it's there -- they wouldn't do it if people didn't tune in. If, you're concerned about your children seeing it, it's your job as a parent to not let them see it, or to tell them why it's bad when they do.
Don't expect the government to make it magically OK, because there are way more content creators than there are government censors, something will always get through. It's up to you to teach your children to make the right choices. If they can, then it doesn't matter if something "slips through" because they'll be able to make the decision that it's worthless. And it's *not* up to anyone else to dictate what I can or can't see.
For example, just because I own a television, does that mean I have agreed to have my children potentially exposed to anything anybody might want to say?
Since when is television an inalienable right? You're right, it is like opt-out marketing. You opted in when you bought a TV.
You buy a television, knowing full well the kind of programming is on it, and then complain that some of the things are bad for your children, and therefore it should be censored from any home? Basically...
For example, just because I own a television, does that mean I have agreed to have my children potentially exposed to anything anybody might want to say?
Yes. You should assume that anything in your house will be opened up, prodded, played with, and possibly broken, whether you want it to be or not, including the television. Children are curious. They'll find that dirty magazine you have in your bureau. They'll turn on the cable you subscribed to (and you didn't bother with parental locks) and find nudity. They'll more than likely see violence. They could also see them in real life. The censorship way out of exposing your children to anything that could possibly be harmful is to lock them in a closet.
If you teach them properly, they will know how to judge those things you consider inappropriate, and file it away in the "bad" category. Sure, they may not always listen, they may try to test your limits; then you punish them and set the record straight. If you're not willing to do that, then you're not a parent, you just happen to be genetically related. There are plenty of people who *want* kids who are physically unable.
So, there are cheap child locks, DirecTV "family only" packages, numerous parental lock systems, watching only video tapes, or *gasp* not watching at all -- you can make your blinders as big as you want. Or you can have personal standards and know when to turn something off. Government censorship is by far the most expensive way out, in rights, in time, and in money.
The biggest problem is that I don't have the desk space for a mouse, I've got a trackball. I have yet to be able to do the heal gesture with it; downright impossible.
However, the game's so damn addicting I'm thinking of going and buying one of those touchsense mouses today and somehow making space on my desk. =)
You know what would be really funny? Someone should make a joke about running "Hello World" and having it core dump. Now *that* would be amusing. I'm shocked no one has thought of it yet!
They already have run into that on a small scale, with some TLDs clashing with alternic (another alternate naming group) -- they worked it out amicably, and (I believe) mirror each other. Whether InterNIC will be that cool is doubtful, however.:P
Yes, but as a TiVo user, I can tell you now, not only do I rarely watch something "live" or even close to live, I don't even know when anything is on anymore. I never have shows where I have a problem with "catching up", because once you get used to the tivo, you stop timing your tv-watching habits around when specific things are on.
can you imagine the dark clouds over the game companies' tech support when they read "Yeah I'm running under Win 98.. i mean.. well, Linux, really..."
So what you're saying is you didn't read the part of the article where he says they're going to be doing tech support along with the subscription-based game voting.
I believe he meant to make a mach personality out of wine so you can have a concurrent wine session that's just as low-level as windows, and is compartmentalized from the unix kernel.
I try following the link, all I get is timouts, and some really whacked-out ICMP failed checksum messages from my firewall from their IP. Is this some kind of "slashdot honeypot project" or something? =)
Have you tried any of the WinCE 3.0 devices? (iPAQ, newer Jornada's, etc.)
They've improved things a lot... I was a loyal palm user (hey! get your mind out of the gutter...) since the PalmPilot, but I got an iPAQ and it's got everything the Palms do but with much more horsepower. MS finally realized people don't want a "windows" interface on a handheld, and cleaned things up a lot (I tried out some of the WinCE 2.x based ones as well, and there's NO way I'd trade in a Palm for that). The start bar is still there for "quick access" things, but everything is arranged better in the folders now to give a view not unlike the folder-based layout of the palmpilot's app manager.
Despite the fact that I'm not a fan of Microsoft, I must say it's pretty useful, the handwriting recognition is 99% like the palm's, and you can back up the flash and put linux on it if you feel like tinkering.:) The new "familiar" distribution for the iPAQ is starting to get useful as something other than a development base.
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Rarely... have a friend who was a DJ at the local pop station; they would mark down the names of people who requested the crap they were going to play anyways, but they would never actually go out of their way to play something that was requested (ever called and requested something and had them tell you "I'll see if I can get it in, but I don't think I'll have time to play that..."?)
Often their playlist was mapped out before they even came in for their shift.
Don't even get me started. After looking at how their RPMs are built, it's a wonder SuSE runs at all. Half of the ones I looked at *can't* be built as anyone but root. So if they miss a file, there's no way of knowing during QA, because "it works for me". Making spec files without a BuildRoot is like going whoring without a condom. You may get out ok, but most likely you just got screwed.
We supported SuSE in our previous release of our software where I work, but I've given up after spending almost a day trying to coax their system into compliance, when I can build 20 meg of code on RedHat 6.x and 7.x, mandrake 7.2 and 8.0 in 2 hours from a single spec file.
...if someone would post some kind of small reply to this article, and then, get this, make some kind of funny disclaimer at the end of his message! Hilarious! I wonder if anyone else has though of that?!
:)
Yeah, I've had it for a couple of years, love it. What's *really* weird is I had just picked it up and started re-reading them all a couple of weeks ago. Upon telling a couple of my friends, it turned out they were both doing the same thing. Downright spooky.
Yeah, I've been playing with Jabber for about 3 weeks now (running our own server with AIM/ICQ/MSN/etc. support -- whee!). I've been playing around, making a Jabber bot just to play around and get a feel for things, and I have to say, not only is the code nice, the protocol is one of the cleanest I've seen. It's really nice to work with. IM may be a fairly simple idea, but the Jabber group has definitely done a very clean implementation.
Except the analogy is wrong. It should be:
I started a phone company, and did allow other phone companies to route phone calls to my system, but didn't allow regular phones to talk to our new custom holographic 3-d videoconferencing system.
They're implicitly saying, "we're allowing basic transport to work OK, but still want to offer an incentive to use our service directly." Whether that's good or bad is up to you, but don't try to change the argument into something it isn't. It's not about AOL denying service. It's only about offering extras to their customers.
Karma's for the weak.
Boy, you certainly make parenting sound simple.
I didn't mean to. I meant to make it sound like the responsibility it is. =)
So your argument is that people who don't want to risk being exposed to the most vile atrocities at any time of the day or night shouldn't buy TVs?
No, I'm saying that you make it sound like the only 2 choices are to have no gun in the house, or to have one loaded, cocked, and taped to a chair pointing at your kid with a string going from your dog to the trigger. (Apologies to the Road Warrior.) There are ways to limit your children's TV choices without the government stepping in and saying "ass" is a bad word. Especially when, for the most part, "dirty" language is only dirty because we all say it is.
Precisely. So I don't leave armed hand grenades near my children. Do you think it's ok for broadcasters to make televisions equally dangerous, psychologically?
But that's entirely my point. If you've taught your children right and wrong, there's very little on TV that's (in my opinion) even close to "equally dangerous, psychologically" as a gun. You won't let a gun near your child, but you think TV is just as bad, and you *don't* limit their exposure?
Now, I probably come off more argumentative than I really should, but I'm playing a little bit of devil's advocate. Regardless, the majority of consumers want the trash we have on TV. That's why it's there -- they wouldn't do it if people didn't tune in. If, you're concerned about your children seeing it, it's your job as a parent to not let them see it, or to tell them why it's bad when they do.
Don't expect the government to make it magically OK, because there are way more content creators than there are government censors, something will always get through. It's up to you to teach your children to make the right choices. If they can, then it doesn't matter if something "slips through" because they'll be able to make the decision that it's worthless. And it's *not* up to anyone else to dictate what I can or can't see.
For example, just because I own a television, does that mean I have agreed to have my children potentially exposed to anything anybody might want to say?
Since when is television an inalienable right? You're right, it is like opt-out marketing. You opted in when you bought a TV.
You buy a television, knowing full well the kind of programming is on it, and then complain that some of the things are bad for your children, and therefore it should be censored from any home? Basically...
For example, just because I own a television, does that mean I have agreed to have my children potentially exposed to anything anybody might want to say?
Yes. You should assume that anything in your house will be opened up, prodded, played with, and possibly broken, whether you want it to be or not, including the television. Children are curious. They'll find that dirty magazine you have in your bureau. They'll turn on the cable you subscribed to (and you didn't bother with parental locks) and find nudity. They'll more than likely see violence. They could also see them in real life. The censorship way out of exposing your children to anything that could possibly be harmful is to lock them in a closet.
If you teach them properly, they will know how to judge those things you consider inappropriate, and file it away in the "bad" category. Sure, they may not always listen, they may try to test your limits; then you punish them and set the record straight. If you're not willing to do that, then you're not a parent, you just happen to be genetically related. There are plenty of people who *want* kids who are physically unable.
So, there are cheap child locks, DirecTV "family only" packages, numerous parental lock systems, watching only video tapes, or *gasp* not watching at all -- you can make your blinders as big as you want. Or you can have personal standards and know when to turn something off. Government censorship is by far the most expensive way out, in rights, in time, and in money.
The biggest problem is that I don't have the desk space for a mouse, I've got a trackball. I have yet to be able to do the heal gesture with it; downright impossible.
However, the game's so damn addicting I'm thinking of going and buying one of those touchsense mouses today and somehow making space on my desk. =)
You know what would be really funny? Someone should make a joke about running "Hello World" and having it core dump. Now *that* would be amusing. I'm shocked no one has thought of it yet!
:P
The drives are faster than 10,000 RPM?! Wow! =)
They already have run into that on a small scale, with some TLDs clashing with alternic (another alternate naming group) -- they worked it out amicably, and (I believe) mirror each other. Whether InterNIC will be that cool is doubtful, however. :P
Damn, that could get confusing:
deb http://netbase-4.05.deb/debian woody main
:)
Yup, already doing it. OpenNIC.
Since it looks like this article is going to become the April Fools clearing house, check out the Astronomy Picture of the Day.
What do you think this is, a #trax reunion? =)
Yes, but as a TiVo user, I can tell you now, not only do I rarely watch something "live" or even close to live, I don't even know when anything is on anymore. I never have shows where I have a problem with "catching up", because once you get used to the tivo, you stop timing your tv-watching habits around when specific things are on.
can you imagine the dark clouds over the game companies' tech support when they read "Yeah I'm running under Win 98.. i mean.. well, Linux, really..."
So what you're saying is you didn't read the part of the article where he says they're going to be doing tech support along with the subscription-based game voting.
I believe he meant to make a mach personality out of wine so you can have a concurrent wine session that's just as low-level as windows, and is compartmentalized from the unix kernel.
I think Spider Robinson said it best about programming a VCR (I don't remember the exact phrasing)
Not only are people unable to set their watch, twice, and then pick a TV channel, they seem to be proud of it!
...and setting the clock is even easier. It's just like... SETTING A CLOCK! I don't see what the problem is.
I try following the link, all I get is timouts, and some really whacked-out ICMP failed checksum messages from my firewall from their IP. Is this some kind of "slashdot honeypot project" or something? =)
Have you tried any of the WinCE 3.0 devices? (iPAQ, newer Jornada's, etc.)
They've improved things a lot... I was a loyal palm user (hey! get your mind out of the gutter...) since the PalmPilot, but I got an iPAQ and it's got everything the Palms do but with much more horsepower. MS finally realized people don't want a "windows" interface on a handheld, and cleaned things up a lot (I tried out some of the WinCE 2.x based ones as well, and there's NO way I'd trade in a Palm for that). The start bar is still there for "quick access" things, but everything is arranged better in the folders now to give a view not unlike the folder-based layout of the palmpilot's app manager.
Despite the fact that I'm not a fan of Microsoft, I must say it's pretty useful, the handwriting recognition is 99% like the palm's, and you can back up the flash and put linux on it if you feel like tinkering. :) The new "familiar" distribution for the iPAQ is starting to get useful as something other than a development base.
the fact that this company reinvented the wheel
More specifically, they probably invented it in the first place. =)
Handspring was started by the original PalmOS designers who left when 3Com bought USRobotics.
1st Law Of Networking: Loose ends are bad, termination is good.