Jabber is fine for small-group communication, but how well does it handle communication between individuals with different groupings, without having to have a multitude of Jabber servers?
I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to get at. Having a multitude of servers is optional. There are a number of public Jabber servers around that anyone can sign up to. All of them interoperate with each other.
For instance, I use IM to talk to people I work with and my friends. To connect all of them, someone would need to have a Jabber server set up that could connect all of us.
Which any Jabber server can. The Jabber network is not lots of independant monolithic Jabber servers, it is a distributed network of Jabber servers (although you can run a private closed server if you want). You seem to be confused about the capabilities of Jabber.
I agree. Their network, their hardware, their systems... They can do whatever they want, regardless of how some may feel.
You (and Microsoft) seem to be forgetting that Microsoft has already been convicted of using their monopoly in an anti-competitive manner. They cannot do whatever they want, specifically the anti-trust settlement with the US Government requires them to open their protocols and APIs to competition from third party software.
Ok then... allow license to use the service but conform to the advert system. This would *suck* for many end users, but then microsoft couldn't use the excuse about profit.
And perhaps this would be acceptable to Microsoft. One of the free client's developers should try approaching Microsoft with this suggestion. If they do not agree, they may be violating the terms of their antitrust settlement by unreasonably blocking the competition from using their services.
I'll give you what-if. My commercial app has a plugin system. I use dynamic linking to implement this system. Plugins are really just dynamically linkable libraries that my program scans for and links to. Now some OSS programmer writes a plugin for my app, and places it under the GPL. Now since my app links to this plugin, by your logic, I should be required to release my code under the GPL.
No, that is ridiculous. Another author cannot cause your work to be licensed under the GPL. If the plugin is written specifically to work with your program, then the author should use a different license, or a modified GPL with an exception that allows linking with your program. If his plugin was written to a common API that is also used by some other GPLed program, then it should theoretically only be linked to that, but what users do is their own business. Just don't promote it for use with your own program and you'll be clear.
You forgot the link to the Amnesty International report on the US for comparison. Yes the Chinese judicial system CAN BE brutal. It does not mean we should let Chinese ISPs get away with hosting spammers because we don't agree with what their Government does to political opponents.
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Calm down! He's suggesting it was written to fuck us all over, not him specifically. Or do you know more about this than the rest of us?
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That could be a PAINFUL 10 years if they continue to sell their PENIS ENLARGEMENT PILLS while they're inside!
The biggest spam gangs at the moment appear to be working out of Russia, the Baltic States and China, with business fronts in those countries. I suspect the people behind them are the same old American and Dutch individuals that formerly ruled the spam world, but they think they are safe by using offshore bases. What we need is to trace these connections so we've got someone to sue into oblivion.
If you get spam that appears to be willingly sent from China, report it to the Ministry of Commerce. Hopefully if enough reports are received the Chinese Government will do something about the problem. I don't know what the equivalent organizations in Russia and the Baltic States are, I'd expect more action from the Baltic States, but given enough pressure Russia might be swayed too.
You still haven't presented a valid reason to need to connect to said mail server.
You obviously don't travel. I don't want to have to reconfigure my laptop everywhere I go. Have you ever tried asking the front desk at a hotel what the IP address of their SMTP server is? I can just imagine the blank stare you'd get in return.
Is it just me, or did anyone else get a screen full of pornsite-style Intel popups when they tried to read the infoworld article? I eventually had to kill Mozilla because they were popping up faster than I could close them.
I won't be going back there in a hurry. Anyone know a good email address for Infoworld's advertising dept I can use to let them know what I think of their latest idea?
Provided they mention in their usage agreement that they will do this, and exactly what information they will collect and under what circumstances, I don't see any problem.
From what you posted, it looks like they are collecting a sensible amount of information (no/etc/passwd or Windows equivalents) and only for tracking down people using unlicensed copies of their software so they can persuade them to pay up. Of course the "evidence" they are collecting would never stand up in court if the unlicensed user calls their bluff.
Sending autoreplies is sometimes useful, but these scanners should at very least have a table which tells them, for each virus, whether an autoreply should be sent (ie, a table which specifies if a virus uses spoofed source addresses).
They don't even need a table. If the domain in the From address doesn't match any of the Received headers, just silently bin the thing. This would also handle heuristic scans which pick up new viruses that aren't in the scanner's database yet.
But I don't think the virus cartel will want to give up their valuable source of free advertising, so I don't expect they will make any such changes.
You would think that after Klez, the people who write these virus scanners and those who administer mail servers would realize that viruses sometimes spoof the "From:" field.
They don't care. The point of those messages is not some public service of informing people that their computers are infected, the point is to advertise the virus software.
Actually, I take that back. I did get one scanner-autoreply today that included full headers, which let me track down the real culprit. But most of them are blatent advertising, I report them as spam to the virus cartel's upstream provider.
Yeah, that was a bit over the top, but dropping support from the official distribution (without making it difficult for them to patch it back)would send a clear enough signal to SCO's shareholders about SCO's future plans.
There is no risk associated with USING open source products, the risk only comes when you start shitting on the people who write them. If business decision makers want to start shitting on open source developers, then they will reap what they sow. If they want to start shitting on IBM or Microsoft they will probably find themselves in the same boat.
The FSF decided that dropping SCO support from gcc would hurt users more than SCO. But dropping SCO support from Samba on the heels of this announcement would hurt SCO a lot more.
I say drop SCO support from all future Samba releases, so SCO has to deal with the hassle of patching it themselves every time. And make lots of superfluous architectural changes to make patching hard. Make sure there's some major new functionality or a security fix in there that SCO will want to use, so they can't just stick with the old version.
;; This file was for a while censored by the Communications Decency Act. ;; Some of its features were removed. The law was promoted as a ban ;; on pornography, but it bans far more than that. The doctor program ;; did not contain pornography, but part of it was prohibited ;; nonetheless.
;; The Supreme Court overturned the Communications Decency Act, but ;; Congress is sure to look for some other way to try to end free speech. ;; For information on US government censorship of the Internet, and ;; what you can do to protect freedom of the press, see the web ;; site http://www.vtw.org/ ;; See also the file etc/CENSORSHIP in the Emacs distribution ;; for a discussion of why and how this file was censored, and the ;; political implications of the issue.
Canada, Russia, Finland, Sweden and Norway are land masses too, with lots of glaciers and permafrost. I don't think the North Pole is going to melt in isolation. A lot of "scientists" seem to lack the common sense to see the bigger picture.
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Dream on. Macintosh has never dominated the Japanese market. Fujitsu and NEC have had it sown up since the early days of PC-98.
I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to get at. Having a multitude of servers is optional. There are a number of public Jabber servers around that anyone can sign up to. All of them interoperate with each other.
For instance, I use IM to talk to people I work with and my friends. To connect all of them, someone would need to have a Jabber server set up that could connect all of us.
Which any Jabber server can. The Jabber network is not lots of independant monolithic Jabber servers, it is a distributed network of Jabber servers (although you can run a private closed server if you want). You seem to be confused about the capabilities of Jabber.
You (and Microsoft) seem to be forgetting that Microsoft has already been convicted of using their monopoly in an anti-competitive manner. They cannot do whatever they want, specifically the anti-trust settlement with the US Government requires them to open their protocols and APIs to competition from third party software.
And perhaps this would be acceptable to Microsoft. One of the free client's developers should try approaching Microsoft with this suggestion. If they do not agree, they may be violating the terms of their antitrust settlement by unreasonably blocking the competition from using their services.
No, that is ridiculous. Another author cannot cause your work to be licensed under the GPL. If the plugin is written specifically to work with your program, then the author should use a different license, or a modified GPL with an exception that allows linking with your program. If his plugin was written to a common API that is also used by some other GPLed program, then it should theoretically only be linked to that, but what users do is their own business. Just don't promote it for use with your own program and you'll be clear.
Which is why glibc is not GPL'ed, it is LGPL'ed! Whether the linking is static or shared does not make a difference, linking is still linking.
You forgot the link to the Amnesty International report on the US for comparison. Yes the Chinese judicial system CAN BE brutal. It does not mean we should let Chinese ISPs get away with hosting spammers because we don't agree with what their Government does to political opponents.
Calm down! He's suggesting it was written to fuck us all over, not him specifically. Or do you know more about this than the rest of us?
That could be a PAINFUL 10 years if they continue to sell their PENIS ENLARGEMENT PILLS while they're inside!
If you get spam that appears to be willingly sent from China, report it to the Ministry of Commerce. Hopefully if enough reports are received the Chinese Government will do something about the problem. I don't know what the equivalent organizations in Russia and the Baltic States are, I'd expect more action from the Baltic States, but given enough pressure Russia might be swayed too.
You obviously don't travel. I don't want to have to reconfigure my laptop everywhere I go. Have you ever tried asking the front desk at a hotel what the IP address of their SMTP server is? I can just imagine the blank stare you'd get in return.
Yes, I even have the "Block unrequested popups" option ticked. Bug in mozilla perhaps?
I won't be going back there in a hurry. Anyone know a good email address for Infoworld's advertising dept I can use to let them know what I think of their latest idea?
So? We're only talking about auto-reply spam from antivirus filters.
From what you posted, it looks like they are collecting a sensible amount of information (no /etc/passwd or Windows equivalents) and only for tracking down people using unlicensed copies of their software so they can persuade them to pay up. Of course the "evidence" they are collecting would never stand up in court if the unlicensed user calls their bluff.
They don't even need a table. If the domain in the From address doesn't match any of the Received headers, just silently bin the thing. This would also handle heuristic scans which pick up new viruses that aren't in the scanner's database yet.
But I don't think the virus cartel will want to give up their valuable source of free advertising, so I don't expect they will make any such changes.
They don't care. The point of those messages is not some public service of informing people that their computers are infected, the point is to advertise the virus software.
Actually, I take that back. I did get one scanner-autoreply today that included full headers, which let me track down the real culprit. But most of them are blatent advertising, I report them as spam to the virus cartel's upstream provider.
Yeah, that was a bit over the top, but dropping support from the official distribution (without making it difficult for them to patch it back)would send a clear enough signal to SCO's shareholders about SCO's future plans.
The "moral high ground" is not to roll over and play dead. Besides, Samba is not GNU software, so the FSF has nothing to do with this.
There is no risk associated with USING open source products, the risk only comes when you start shitting on the people who write them. If business decision makers want to start shitting on open source developers, then they will reap what they sow. If they want to start shitting on IBM or Microsoft they will probably find themselves in the same boat.
The FSF decided that dropping SCO support from gcc would hurt users more than SCO. But dropping SCO support from Samba on the heels of this announcement would hurt SCO a lot more. I say drop SCO support from all future Samba releases, so SCO has to deal with the hassle of patching it themselves every time. And make lots of superfluous architectural changes to make patching hard. Make sure there's some major new functionality or a security fix in there that SCO will want to use, so they can't just stick with the old version.
What poor sales?
They are probably counting the lines in every point release of 2.4 and 2.5 and adding them all together to get the final number.
Here it is (from doctor.el):
;; This file was for a while censored by the Communications Decency Act.
;; Some of its features were removed. The law was promoted as a ban
;; on pornography, but it bans far more than that. The doctor program
;; did not contain pornography, but part of it was prohibited
;; nonetheless.
;; The Supreme Court overturned the Communications Decency Act, but
;; Congress is sure to look for some other way to try to end free speech.
;; For information on US government censorship of the Internet, and
;; what you can do to protect freedom of the press, see the web
;; site http://www.vtw.org/
;; See also the file etc/CENSORSHIP in the Emacs distribution
;; for a discussion of why and how this file was censored, and the
;; political implications of the issue.
Canada, Russia, Finland, Sweden and Norway are land masses too, with lots of glaciers and permafrost. I don't think the North Pole is going to melt in isolation. A lot of "scientists" seem to lack the common sense to see the bigger picture.