I'm responding to the NA so people can see his post (this is the child of that post):
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them an extremist. Precendent doesn't make it Constitutional. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny, and still wrong.
Thanks, NA
Now, as for you, letxa2000, you sure are hot on this issue. I'll grant you this: 'Under God' is not the same as slaverly, however, my purpose was not to compare slaverly and 'Under God', my purpose was to show how your argument is weak. I'll reiterate: doing something today because it is what you did yesterday is void of thought, logic, or progress. There, dead horse flogged.
Next up: I am not an extremist. I am EXTREMELY patriotic. I have served my country in the military. While I am not currently in the military, if I was ever needed again, I would be there in a heart beat. They won't need to draft me.
Now, here is how I am patriotic: I value the freedom of this country. I value my freedom of religion (or lack thereof). I value, very greatly, the seperation of church and state.
All of these things keep my free. Removing 'under god' is another step towards freedom. Why should you care if 'god' has been removed from the pledge? You have removed something from my life that I do not want, and you have lost nothing: you still have god. You still have your faith, your church, your friends, and your religion.
So, if the time has come, if the culture has changed, and "Under GOD" has to go, you know what I say to you? Same thing you said to me: Tough.
Woah, not very nice to be on that side of things, is it?
In a word, "tough." There are 270 million people in this country. It's impossible to please all of them all of the time. But to say that the current Pledge isn't part of American culture and tradition because a few percentage points of the population doesn't like it is to distort the definition of "culture" which, by definition, is a collective entity. The Pledge IS part of your culture even though you might not like that part of the culture.
Ya' know what? You're right, we can't please everyone. But there is a major difference between pleasing/not pleasing and actively pissing people off.
The new pledge: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all...
I'm quite sure that this current case will be overturned for the same reason: It has become a part of our culture and our society. I learned it as a child, as have many others, and taking something away from it would be like removing a stripe from the flag.
Kinda like how slaverly was part of the fabric of society in the South way back when? The argument that we should continue to do something today becuase it is what we did yesterday is totally lacking in thought, logic, or progress.
This decision will be overturned for the same reason that prayers are allowed at the opening of hte Supreme Court, House, etc.: It has become an accepted part of our culture.
I don't accept it as part of my culture and it is obvious, through the fact that this is in the courts at all, that someone else doesn't accept it as part of their culture. You are not everyone.
There has always been a "Big Brother" in every medium (tcp/ip, radio frequencies, etc..). There has always been a way for someone to listen on to communications that was not destined to them.
Well, that has been true for along time, but I believe techonology has rendered that line of thinking obsolete. Now we have encryption. The public has many versions of encryption available to them, and, with time, I think we will have one that is literally impossible to break.
On the other hand, we do have quantum based encyption, where by a person can tell if they are being tapped. That works well.
Praise, either way...
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Wolframania
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· Score: 3, Flamebait
A quote from each article:
Had Dr. Wolfram been more demonstrative in parceling out credit to those who share his vision (many are mentioned, in passing, in the book's copious notes), they might be lining up to provide testimonials. It's the kind of book some may wish they had written.
Yet Wolfram has earned some bragging rights. No one has contributed more seminally to this new way of thinking about the world. Certainly no one has worked so hard to produce such a beautiful book. It's too bad that more science isn't delivered this way.
Everywhere you look, almost everyone is saying, well, even if he is wrong, he's written a hell of a book. Which I suppose is true.
Ok, I'll chime in from USD in Vermillion. I went to SDSM&T, and now work at USD. I left the state for a while, but I had to come back (I missed it, auuugh, there I admitted it!).
And, since this is a flame war, I'd just like to point out that USD has gotten more press and publicity via the Hand Held Project than the rest of the regent schools combined! =)
Hmm, someone baiting all the slashdotters with a simple question where half of us will wonder if the question is serious and the other half with will slap our foreheads and go 'fuck me this is stupid!'.
I'll put myself in the latter group.
Is this www.adequacy.org? Is this an attempt at the ultimate troll in the latest 'NASA' article on slashdot?
Sigh...
At the time of my post, 'FakePlasticMe' has posted 4 post, all of them score 1 with the exceptio of this one.
Only due to the combination of crack smoking moderators and troll-making posters can such an event come about such as 'FakePlasticMe' getting a score 5 on a troll post.
Not that I'm surprised. I know this. Many others know this. It's the light and way. Post early, post often... you'll get modded up. Post something right and true, you'll get zero responses and no moderations. Post something dumb-shit/troll/etc, and hello!
This glum (if also quite funny) fate is surely the result of compounded management errors -- the know-nothingness and foolishness and acting-out that, for instance, just recently resulted in what seems to be the final death of Napster.
But it's way larger, too. Management solutions in the music business have, rightly, given way to a pure, no-exit kind of fatalism.
It's all pain. It's all breakdown. Music-business people, heretofore among the most self-satisfied and self-absorbed people of the age, are suddenly interesting, informed, even ennobled, as they become fully engaged in the subject of their own demise. Producers, musicians, marketing people, agents . . . they'll talk you through what's happened to their business -- it's part B-school case study and part Pilgrim's Progress.
Self absorbed people talking of their own death, realizing they've killed the golden goose. I'd really like to hear one of their stories to see exactly what they'd say: what part of the many things that pissed me off enough about RIAA to stop buying music have they actually realized?
Wow, taking on IBM mainframes...
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'Unbreakable Linux'
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· Score: 5, Interesting
To quote Oracle CEO Larry Ellison
"That is why we have been seriously looking at Linux in the last six months," said Ellison. "Because Linux is perfect for clustering. People say is Linux ready for prime time? Is it reliable? Is it fast? With clusters, it is fast enough and with no single point of failure. Clusters are fault tolerant. A cluster of four Linux machines is more reliable and less expensive than an IBM mainframe. The problem with traditional database is that you are constantly in an endless upgrade cycle. The biggest benefit to our midrange user is the economics."
Taking on IBM? Taking on IBM mainframes? That is truly a serious statement.
If nobody ever gets (got?) fired for buying IBM, what does this mean?
Microsoft has, where do you want to go today? Or more recently, one degree of seperation.
Linux has 150 flavors and counting. Is linux be-all end-all? Oh hell no, but nothing is... however, on the other hand, linux is:
The OS that runs the cluster on the campus of the University I work at.
The OS that runs the MSN companion I hacked for my parents. Everything they need on 16MB of flash card and if they get nervous, they pull the plug and start over.
The OS that runs servers that IBM sells. Enough said.
There, 3 flavors out of 150. Each of them has been very useful in my life, and I know I've only touched the tip of the iceberg.
My first thought: this is far to sane to actually take place. Then I read:
Kazaa lobbyist Phil Corwin says a $1-a-month fee per user on Internet providers alone (it's unclear whether costs would be passed along to subscribers) would generate $2 billion yearly: "We're talking about a modest fee on all the parties who benefit from the availability of this content."
Recording Industry Association of America president Hilary Rosen calls the proposal "the most disingenuous thing I've ever heard. It's ridiculous."
Sooo, let me get this straight: it is riciculous to directly pay the artist who produce the music.
Well, this is very telling. I sincerly hope compulsory license comes to be... it seems about the only way to tame the RIAA beast. Maybe it will even save internet radio.
I've dealt with a very similar problem. I work at a university, and we have a very fat pipe to both the internet and I2. The specific problem is students living in the dorms using all the bandwith with P2P type traffic.
Not wanting to play 'police', we didn't stop them from using P2P, we just used our firewall to limit the total use of specific protocols and ports to 5 percent of the total traffic.
Oh, now back up a second... you think OSS has no finacial traps? You are disillusioned my friend. While you might not get screwed by a big cooperation, there are still pitfalls to watch for.
OSS + incompotence can still equel big bucks. Just not in the fashion Oracle serves it up.
Why not pay users to collect e-mail addresses? Just create a 'plugin' (not unlike the google tool bar) so that where ever users go, the plugin automatically collects the e-mail addresses on the page. The user could get paid in some way (money? otherwise?), and there could even be a space in the tool bar to enter e-mail addresses obscured, as in an email addresses displayed as an image, as to avoid detection.
Sigh... I too have hated MS. My brother is the CIO of a billion dollar a year company. Him and I have had many a MS arguments... me against, and him for, in specific cases.
One of his big MS loves has been SQL server. Since 7.0 he has loved it. They have over a billion rows in their accounting DB, and it has performed with out fail.
Me: very recently, I used Oracle 8i. It was OK. Then our group decided to look for alternatives after Oracle decided to change its pricing schemes (which ment a lot more money for us). We reviewed SQL 2000, tried it, ran it through the ringer, and... loved it.
I didn't want to like SQL server. But after having used Oracle, it was a god-send. Things that use to take days in oracle literaly took minutes in SQL server, esp. with DTS.
So now I curse the day that MS made a good product that I like.
I'm truly not an MS advocate. I've used VB on major projects and cursed the day. Not by choice but my management choice. (I quit, by the way).
And now I've been using Win2k for a year, and I like it too... sure, there are issues, like the 'memory could not be read' thing I keep running into. But I can ACTUALLY go weeks without rebooting. That is amazing. And I consistently have 30+ windows open without an issue.
XP, on the other hand, I am a bit scared of. We've run into issues, for example, Office XP won't use LDAP as a directory lookup source... it will only use Active Directory. That makes me and the other techs nervous, as it is a clear indication of the strangle hold MS is trying to put on us. It is a blantant non-use of an open protocol, which perfectly follows the embrace-and-extend method that has moved MS as far as they are.
Well, I'll end it here... and rant for a rant, I say!
I got the.sig from some post here at slashdot... I should have saved a shortcut to it. I laughed every time I though of it for 3 days... and got a lot of weird looks becuase of it. It is the first.sig I have had that has successfully generated comments strictly on its behalf.
Oh hell no. The barn door has been open FAR too long for CDR to go away.
CDR prices would have to increase by 25 times to match the prices of the this new tech... and seeing as there is money to be made in selling CDR, they will not go away soon.
Even the biggest players do not have to power to stop a movement as big as making your own CD or downloading music off the internet. I feel that moves like this show the very desperation that indicates they have very little options left in the form of 'prevention'.
Well, considering the post above you mentions 'blatant violation of privacy', i'd say that they thought of it before you thought of them thinking about it.
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I'm responding to the NA so people can see his post (this is the child of that post):
Thanks, NA
Now, as for you, letxa2000, you sure are hot on this issue. I'll grant you this: 'Under God' is not the same as slaverly, however, my purpose was not to compare slaverly and 'Under God', my purpose was to show how your argument is weak. I'll reiterate: doing something today because it is what you did yesterday is void of thought, logic, or progress. There, dead horse flogged.
Next up: I am not an extremist. I am EXTREMELY patriotic. I have served my country in the military. While I am not currently in the military, if I was ever needed again, I would be there in a heart beat. They won't need to draft me.
Now, here is how I am patriotic: I value the freedom of this country. I value my freedom of religion (or lack thereof). I value, very greatly, the seperation of church and state.
All of these things keep my free. Removing 'under god' is another step towards freedom. Why should you care if 'god' has been removed from the pledge? You have removed something from my life that I do not want, and you have lost nothing: you still have god. You still have your faith, your church, your friends, and your religion.
So, if the time has come, if the culture has changed, and "Under GOD" has to go, you know what I say to you? Same thing you said to me: Tough.
Woah, not very nice to be on that side of things, is it?
Ya' know what? You're right, we can't please everyone. But there is a major difference between pleasing/not pleasing and actively pissing people off.
The new pledge: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all...
Now that's freedom.
Good sacrifice. We're all proud of you.
Kinda like how slaverly was part of the fabric of society in the South way back when? The argument that we should continue to do something today becuase it is what we did yesterday is totally lacking in thought, logic, or progress.
I don't accept it as part of my culture and it is obvious, through the fact that this is in the courts at all, that someone else doesn't accept it as part of their culture. You are not everyone.
Well, that has been true for along time, but I believe techonology has rendered that line of thinking obsolete. Now we have encryption. The public has many versions of encryption available to them, and, with time, I think we will have one that is literally impossible to break.
On the other hand, we do have quantum based encyption, where by a person can tell if they are being tapped. That works well.
A quote from each article:
Everywhere you look, almost everyone is saying, well, even if he is wrong, he's written a hell of a book. Which I suppose is true.
Pardon me, but WTF? What part of this do you want censored? I do not understand. Does anyone else understand what io333 is talking about?
Having used a IR scope mounted on a M60, I'll tell you why it isn't a waste of money:
Because it works in all light levels. Duh.
Ok, I'll chime in from USD in Vermillion. I went to SDSM&T, and now work at USD. I left the state for a while, but I had to come back (I missed it, auuugh, there I admitted it!).
And, since this is a flame war, I'd just like to point out that USD has gotten more press and publicity via the Hand Held Project than the rest of the regent schools combined! =)
HA HA (Nelson style).
Hmm, someone baiting all the slashdotters with a simple question where half of us will wonder if the question is serious and the other half with will slap our foreheads and go 'fuck me this is stupid!'.
I'll put myself in the latter group.
Is this www.adequacy.org? Is this an attempt at the ultimate troll in the latest 'NASA' article on slashdot?
Sigh...
At the time of my post, 'FakePlasticMe' has posted 4 post, all of them score 1 with the exceptio of this one.
Only due to the combination of crack smoking moderators and troll-making posters can such an event come about such as 'FakePlasticMe' getting a score 5 on a troll post.
Not that I'm surprised. I know this. Many others know this. It's the light and way. Post early, post often... you'll get modded up. Post something right and true, you'll get zero responses and no moderations. Post something dumb-shit/troll/etc, and hello!
To quote:
Self absorbed people talking of their own death, realizing they've killed the golden goose. I'd really like to hear one of their stories to see exactly what they'd say: what part of the many things that pissed me off enough about RIAA to stop buying music have they actually realized?
Lol... hello again, MulletProof....
To quote Oracle CEO Larry Ellison
Taking on IBM? Taking on IBM mainframes? That is truly a serious statement.
If nobody ever gets (got?) fired for buying IBM, what does this mean?
Ok, having worked on a WinNT workstation today, trying to get it to print to a HP LJ2200d and failing, I'll bite...
Why, preferably in detail, do you think that NT4 is better than Win2k?
You don't have an e-mail or a web site, so I thought I'd ask:
How is ColdFusion and SQL server treating you? I read it in you bio.
Seriously, this is good stuff.
Microsoft has, where do you want to go today? Or more recently, one degree of seperation.
Linux has 150 flavors and counting. Is linux be-all end-all? Oh hell no, but nothing is... however, on the other hand, linux is:
There, 3 flavors out of 150. Each of them has been very useful in my life, and I know I've only touched the tip of the iceberg.
My first thought: this is far to sane to actually take place. Then I read:
Sooo, let me get this straight: it is riciculous to directly pay the artist who produce the music.
Well, this is very telling. I sincerly hope compulsory license comes to be... it seems about the only way to tame the RIAA beast. Maybe it will even save internet radio.
I've dealt with a very similar problem. I work at a university, and we have a very fat pipe to both the internet and I2. The specific problem is students living in the dorms using all the bandwith with P2P type traffic.
Not wanting to play 'police', we didn't stop them from using P2P, we just used our firewall to limit the total use of specific protocols and ports to 5 percent of the total traffic.
It has been a very effective solution.
I do know the difference, however, my spelling abilities do not.
Mystery solved.
I'm not quite following you. Please explain. Seriously.
Oh, now back up a second... you think OSS has no finacial traps? You are disillusioned my friend. While you might not get screwed by a big cooperation, there are still pitfalls to watch for.
OSS + incompotence can still equel big bucks. Just not in the fashion Oracle serves it up.
Why not pay users to collect e-mail addresses? Just create a 'plugin' (not unlike the google tool bar) so that where ever users go, the plugin automatically collects the e-mail addresses on the page. The user could get paid in some way (money? otherwise?), and there could even be a space in the tool bar to enter e-mail addresses obscured, as in an email addresses displayed as an image, as to avoid detection.
It would be almost perfectly undetectable.
Microsoft solutions...
Sigh... I too have hated MS. My brother is the CIO of a billion dollar a year company. Him and I have had many a MS arguments... me against, and him for, in specific cases.
One of his big MS loves has been SQL server. Since 7.0 he has loved it. They have over a billion rows in their accounting DB, and it has performed with out fail.
Me: very recently, I used Oracle 8i. It was OK. Then our group decided to look for alternatives after Oracle decided to change its pricing schemes (which ment a lot more money for us). We reviewed SQL 2000, tried it, ran it through the ringer, and... loved it.
I didn't want to like SQL server. But after having used Oracle, it was a god-send. Things that use to take days in oracle literaly took minutes in SQL server, esp. with DTS.
So now I curse the day that MS made a good product that I like.
I'm truly not an MS advocate. I've used VB on major projects and cursed the day. Not by choice but my management choice. (I quit, by the way).
And now I've been using Win2k for a year, and I like it too... sure, there are issues, like the 'memory could not be read' thing I keep running into. But I can ACTUALLY go weeks without rebooting. That is amazing. And I consistently have 30+ windows open without an issue.
XP, on the other hand, I am a bit scared of. We've run into issues, for example, Office XP won't use LDAP as a directory lookup source... it will only use Active Directory. That makes me and the other techs nervous, as it is a clear indication of the strangle hold MS is trying to put on us. It is a blantant non-use of an open protocol, which perfectly follows the embrace-and-extend method that has moved MS as far as they are.
Well, I'll end it here... and rant for a rant, I say!
I got the .sig from some post here at slashdot... I should have saved a shortcut to it. I laughed every time I though of it for 3 days... and got a lot of weird looks becuase of it. It is the first .sig I have had that has successfully generated comments strictly on its behalf.
I am amused.
Oh hell no. The barn door has been open FAR too long for CDR to go away.
CDR prices would have to increase by 25 times to match the prices of the this new tech... and seeing as there is money to be made in selling CDR, they will not go away soon.
Even the biggest players do not have to power to stop a movement as big as making your own CD or downloading music off the internet. I feel that moves like this show the very desperation that indicates they have very little options left in the form of 'prevention'.
Well, considering the post above you mentions 'blatant violation of privacy', i'd say that they thought of it before you thought of them thinking about it.
;)