Having the server's source (at least, for reference) would be nice, but I'd be happy having just the client libraries.
It defies all logic, that Sybase, for example, does not "carpet-bomb" developers with the "OpenClient" (not so open) sources.
They do give away client binaries for a handful of platforms, but there is no reason (other than foolishness) to not give the sources away, because some compelling platforms are not covered (like Palm, FreeBSD, anything on amd64).
I even asked some of the Sybase marketing people and no one could offer a reason... There is no real nor perceived (the latter is usually more important) significant intellectual property hidden in the client sources.
You are making no sense. By your logic, because each device's needs are uniquely different, we should not even have standardized the AC supply. Every device should instead be packaged with a little diesel, gas, or oil generator producing the electricity to the exact specifications of the maker. But even that would require standardizing on some sort of fuel... And certainly -- by your logic -- since no fuel will be optimal for all devices, we'll need them all. Of several "fairly standard" grades of quality, of course.
Fortunately, this is not the dominant point of view and the existing AC standards strongly encourage the manufacturers to design their products to work with them.
There are real reasons why you don't want to jumper the DC supplies for everything on your desk together.
My VCR and DVD are "jumped together" -- as is the TV. What is the reason, I don't want that, again?
You would care if your VCR flipped out every time the washer was on.
I would, but it does not -- that is the point. Ever been to a laundromat? How do 4 TV-sets co-exist with 20 washers and 12 driers -- which are always on?
My cell uses lithium polymer batteries. My gf's uses ni-cad. This results in different cell voltages.
It does not have to result in different voltage -- 5 or 10% of extra capacity (if that) is not justified by the extra brick. This is moot anyway since, a DC-to-DC converter is much smaller, so there'd be no need for the heavy "bricks" required for the AC-to-DC conversion.
As the lovers' portraits get longer on the breasts of aging women, so will this discussion increasingly embarass you, as more and more devices begin using the power-over-etherner and/or power-over-USB (like Blackberry does already) to work and to charge their batteries.
You are just arguing for the sake of arguing, aren't you?..
Nearly everything is still going to need a power contitioning stage, even if it does run on the same voltage. You don't want your electric razor screwing up writes to your external hard disk.
Somehow, my vacuum cleaner does not screw up my washer nor drier. My lady's hair-drier does not affect our microwave, and our DVD and VCR manage to co-exist peacefully. They probably all have power-converters built-in, but I don't care.
But our two cell phones have totally incompatible chargers -- justify that! If something requires line-conditioning -- so be it. But most things do NOT require that, and those that do still not require a voltage converter of their own.
fairly standard supply voltages like 5V,9V,12V etc.
Exactly! Why 5V, 9V, 12V, etc.?! I also have 4.5 and 6 and the connectors are all of different shape and form. There is no reason for this diversity...
Because if you did, you'd still need a bunch of DC-DC converter bricks.
I'd need a lot less of them, than I have now. There being a standard of, say, 12V or 24V would give the designers and manufacturers a good incentive to stick to it, unless their specific product requires something different.
What we have now is gratuitous diversity of the "bricks", which should be interchangible, but are not. Not all manufacturers even have the decency to standardize within their own products.
What you're asking is like asking "Why do we have all these different types of screws, can't they just pick one size?"
Similar -- in that I'd like to see less (not one) variety of screws out there, thus requiring fewer different screwdrivers.
As much as the AC standard can be considered a success -- even if different regions use different voltage and connectors, the sorry state of the DC power is an outrage.
Why does every DC-using device come with its own adapter, and uses its own voltage? Why could not we standardize that?
Maybe, this "power over Ethernet" initiatives (together with the "power over USB") will spell the end of power-strips with curiously shaped "bricks" constantly falling out of them...
If you use bayesian filter software, like bogofilter or spamprobe, you can turn this into an advantage.
Why limit yourself to bayesian? <plug>With my state-keeping milter, for example</plug>, you can automatically blacklist the relay, that handed this spam to your server. So that you would not waste any CPU nor bandwidth talking to the abusive machine again.
fraudulent attempts to prevent at least part of the electorate from voting, and no matter who is responsible for each and every such attempt they should be tracked down and very publically and harshly punished for attempting to subvert the democratic workings of your republic. Of course, that's just my opinion.
Well, here is my opinion then... People have died defending the right to vote for themselves, their children and the rest of the nation. If somebody needs to be chased around with the "Vote or Die" nonsense, or can be "disenfranchised" by a prank or by the polling station being "too far" -- I don't really care for their opinion. And neither should you.
I believe you can change the encoding it uses to read tags in the Language option in the General tab of the options menu.
I have it set to Ukrainian, but don't see that affecting anything -- the interface is still in English and the song titles are still displayed using ISO-8859-1 (or, maybe, -15), but not with any of the Cyrillic fonts.
the study shows that it is probable that between 130K and 260K votes were swung to Bush because of e-voting alone.
Ever heard the one about: "Lies, damn lies, and statistics"? Give it up. Even MoveOn admits, Democrats lost, and blames the party for it:
"For years, the party has been led by elite Washington insiders who are closer to corporate lobbyists than they are to the Democratic base," said the e-mail from MoveOn PAC's Eli Pariser. "But we can't afford four more years of leadership by a consulting class of professional
election losers [emphasis mine -mi]."
Showing their usual self-consistency, the organization is asking for investigation anyway, but has no evidence -- they only say, that "questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted honestly or not"...
This sub-thread exploded because of the stupid parallels to Ukrainian elections, so let me remind you, that ample evidence of fraud exists in Ukraine, not some flimsy "studies" showing something as "probable".
You must not know anyone but CEO's and upper management, because they are the only group that's really done well in the last 4 years.
You are wrong. And this sort of "class warfare" argument is really tiring -- and not at all amusing any more. Especially to someone, who grew up in the Soviet Union.
Google for "concentration of wealth.
And what? Some leftish blogs come up... If there are any signs of "abyss", they are of the Left painting itself further into the corner. Does not bother me...
than upgrading from FreeBSD 4.9 to 4.10 or some such. Most of the things will, probably, "just work". Some involved setups will have to be tinkered with.
Of course, with open-source one can simply recompile most of the software, but application vendors' reluctance to release source is no more of a fault of the OS than the hardware vendors' reluctance to release the specs is...
There is no evidence of substantial fraud in America's voting...
In other news, no trees fell in the woods today.
Hear, hear. To use your metaphor, half the forest fell in Ukraine, tree trunks are floating down the rivers and the roots still protruding from the soil.
The opposition candidate was poisoned (most likely) shortly before elections.
After the elections, relaying of "Channel 5" -- the country's only independent TV station was shut down in several pro-government regions.
There is an "orange groundswell" in Ukraine and not because Ukrainians' balls are substantially bigger (wait, let me check; mmm, no, they are not), but because the fraud is obvious to all. Unlike in America, where the contender conceded and even most of the "opposition" accepted the defeat as legitimate.
I'd ask you to show me GWB's speach and the numbers on the discrepancies for both countries. But I already know, what kind of self-contradicting crap you accept as "proof" so I am not going to bother. Don't expect any more responses.
Bush just used the Ukranian exit polls to prove voter fraud in the Ukraine.
Nope, you are misinformed. The main evidence for election fraud in Ukraine comes from hundreds of Ukrainian and foreign observers -- including some of the Russian ones.
You obviously find comfort in the thought, you did not lose, but were cheated. Why not, instead, accept the advice of your champion and "let the healing begin"?
The unweighted data that found it's way to blogs was not used by him to tally these results.
This is not what pages 4 and 5 of the document, you linked, say. And I'm not wasting any more time on this nonsense.
Put the head handed to you on Nov 2nd back onto your shoulders, apply ointment to the spots still sore from losing and, dare I say it, MoveOn...
The corporations frame the issues for the public, the media pronounces the message, the politicians get their payola and we all slide further into the abyss.
Which "abyss"? Myself, and everybody I know are better off than 5 years ago. Quite a bit so, in fact. Thank you very much.
Perhaps you think the public could summon enough interest to fight a stolen election.
I think so. In fact, there mere accusations of stealing an election arouse plenty of noises. Should and actual theft happen at some point in the future, there will fight aplenty. Not that I want to find out.
If this kind of statistics were a proof of fraud, we'd have to incarcerate all blacks, for example...
Anyway, I'm more inclinded to trust MIT and Calltech whom this guy tries to refute on page 4, as well as just about everybody else -- most Democrats included.
The man (and you) are so desperate, it shows. For example, on page 5 of the document he says: "but it makes not sense that NEP would ever to [sic] distribute unweighted data". Well, on page 4 he claims to be using the data that "reportedly were not meant to be released". Did you mention "discrepancy"?
Can you offer a link to more numbers, not hardbreathing accusations, leftie?
The biggest and most substantial study by a Berkeley professors (no less) to date, talks about at most 130K votes misplaced in Florida. Considering Bush's margin of 381K votes in the state, even that biggest accusuation is moot.
In Ukraine, on the other hand, the fraud was blatant. One Russian observer was angrily told by an election official, whom he confronted about the miscounting: "You are from Russia, and Putin supports us, so stop interfering!!"
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Are there FreeBSD ports? What about C, TCL, Perl, or Python APIs? PHP plugins?
It defies all logic, that Sybase, for example, does not "carpet-bomb" developers with the "OpenClient" (not so open) sources.
They do give away client binaries for a handful of platforms, but there is no reason (other than foolishness) to not give the sources away, because some compelling platforms are not covered (like Palm, FreeBSD, anything on amd64).
I even asked some of the Sybase marketing people and no one could offer a reason... There is no real nor perceived (the latter is usually more important) significant intellectual property hidden in the client sources.
Notifications of speedtraps.
Fortunately, this is not the dominant point of view and the existing AC standards strongly encourage the manufacturers to design their products to work with them.
My VCR and DVD are "jumped together" -- as is the TV. What is the reason, I don't want that, again? I would, but it does not -- that is the point. Ever been to a laundromat? How do 4 TV-sets co-exist with 20 washers and 12 driers -- which are always on? It does not have to result in different voltage -- 5 or 10% of extra capacity (if that) is not justified by the extra brick. This is moot anyway since, a DC-to-DC converter is much smaller, so there'd be no need for the heavy "bricks" required for the AC-to-DC conversion.As the lovers' portraits get longer on the breasts of aging women, so will this discussion increasingly embarass you, as more and more devices begin using the power-over-etherner and/or power-over-USB (like Blackberry does already) to work and to charge their batteries.
Somehow, my vacuum cleaner does not screw up my washer nor drier. My lady's hair-drier does not affect our microwave, and our DVD and VCR manage to co-exist peacefully. They probably all have power-converters built-in, but I don't care.
But our two cell phones have totally incompatible chargers -- justify that! If something requires line-conditioning -- so be it. But most things do NOT require that, and those that do still not require a voltage converter of their own.
Exactly! Why 5V, 9V, 12V, etc.?! I also have 4.5 and 6 and the connectors are all of different shape and form. There is no reason for this diversity...What we have now is gratuitous diversity of the "bricks", which should be interchangible, but are not. Not all manufacturers even have the decency to standardize within their own products.
Similar -- in that I'd like to see less (not one) variety of screws out there, thus requiring fewer different screwdrivers.Oh, and you'll need proprietory firmware for the blades.
Why does every DC-using device come with its own adapter, and uses its own voltage? Why could not we standardize that?
Maybe, this "power over Ethernet" initiatives (together with the "power over USB") will spell the end of power-strips with curiously shaped "bricks" constantly falling out of them...
Why limit yourself to bayesian? <plug>With my state-keeping milter, for example</plug>, you can automatically blacklist the relay, that handed this spam to your server. So that you would not waste any CPU nor bandwidth talking to the abusive machine again.
Talk about "sheeple"...
I have it set to Ukrainian, but don't see that affecting anything -- the interface is still in English and the song titles are still displayed using ISO-8859-1 (or, maybe, -15), but not with any of the Cyrillic fonts.
I'll check the MisticRiver out, though. Thanks!
They can't sell real Windows for cheap, but know, that the frugal Chinese will install a pirated version.
I'd like to hack it to use KOI8-U, when displaying the titles, &c. For some reason, it uses ISO-8859-1, and there is no way to change that :-(
This sub-thread exploded because of the stupid parallels to Ukrainian elections, so let me remind you, that ample evidence of fraud exists in Ukraine, not some flimsy "studies" showing something as "probable".
Of course, with open-source one can simply recompile most of the software, but application vendors' reluctance to release source is no more of a fault of the OS than the hardware vendors' reluctance to release the specs is...
The opposition candidate was poisoned (most likely) shortly before elections.
After the elections, relaying of "Channel 5" -- the country's only independent TV station was shut down in several pro-government regions.
There is an "orange groundswell" in Ukraine and not because Ukrainians' balls are substantially bigger (wait, let me check; mmm, no, they are not), but because the fraud is obvious to all. Unlike in America, where the contender conceded and even most of the "opposition" accepted the defeat as legitimate.
I'd ask you to show me GWB's speach and the numbers on the discrepancies for both countries. But I already know, what kind of self-contradicting crap you accept as "proof" so I am not going to bother. Don't expect any more responses.
Between people, for whom English is the native language, and the others... I'd be curious, how my kind are doing :-)
Oh, is this one of those: "Only a fool would not see the King's closes"? Sorry, not convincing.
You obviously find comfort in the thought, you did not lose, but were cheated. Why not, instead, accept the advice of your champion and "let the healing begin"?
This is not what pages 4 and 5 of the document, you linked, say. And I'm not wasting any more time on this nonsense.
Put the head handed to you on Nov 2nd back onto your shoulders, apply ointment to the spots still sore from losing and, dare I say it, MoveOn...
If this kind of statistics were a proof of fraud, we'd have to incarcerate all blacks, for example...
Anyway, I'm more inclinded to trust MIT and Calltech whom this guy tries to refute on page 4, as well as just about everybody else -- most Democrats included.
The man (and you) are so desperate, it shows. For example, on page 5 of the document he says: "but it makes not sense that NEP would ever to [sic] distribute unweighted data". Well, on page 4 he claims to be using the data that "reportedly were not meant to be released". Did you mention "discrepancy"?
To sell legitimacy, however tainted it may be.
Can you offer a link to more numbers, not hardbreathing accusations, leftie?
The biggest and most substantial study by a Berkeley professors (no less) to date, talks about at most 130K votes misplaced in Florida. Considering Bush's margin of 381K votes in the state, even that biggest accusuation is moot.
In Ukraine, on the other hand, the fraud was blatant. One Russian observer was angrily told by an election official, whom he confronted about the miscounting: "You are from Russia, and Putin supports us, so stop interfering!!"