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China Launches New Search Engine

stupidfoo writes "With all those nasty pro-democracy websites that Google keeps turning up, what's a communist country supposed to do? Well, create their own search engine of course! According to the AP, 'Bill Clinton on Monday helped launch a new Internet search company backed by the Chinese government which says its technology uses artificial intelligence to produce better results than Google Inc.' Accoona Corp. was one of the Chinese companies that donated an 'undisclosed amount' to the recently opened Clinton Library. Using the search engine from inside the US doesn't show any noticeable amount of censorship, but it also doesn't show how it's anywhere near the level of Google."

433 comments

  1. Latency by techsoldaten · · Score: 2, Informative

    Kathy Feaganes Allen is the lady from Florida who ran down a couple of teenagers for letting their golf ball hit her SUV. Compelling story, something that I really want to know about.

    No mention of it on Accoona at all, plenty on Google.

    'Nuff said.

    M

    1. Re:Latency by SIGALRM · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The deal gives Accoona data on some 5 million Chinese companies, which Accoona sees as a lucrative opportunity as U.S. businesses seek to do business in China
      Although I seriously doubt the folks at Google are shuddering over this new "rival", you can't overlook the potential benefit to American companies who are looking to do business in the world's largest consumer market.
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    2. Re:Latency by stupidfoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      American companies who are looking to do business in the world's largest consumer market.

      America is the world's largest consumer market. China merely has the most people.

    3. Re:Latency by techsoldaten · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No doubt.

      Then again, my company is not looking to do business with China. What real use does a tiny search engine have for me right now? (Not to mention the Chinese state probably censors the thing.)

      For the present, I will stick with the tried and least-untrustworthy solution.

      M

    4. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting


      Not in 5-10 years, which is the approximate horizon for buisness visiblity.

    5. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > plenty on Google

      Your search - "Kathy Feaganes Allen" - did not match any documents.

      Suggestions:

      - Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
      - Try different keywords.
      - Try more general keywords.

    6. Re:Latency by Steve+Embalmer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      America is the world's largest consumer market

      Only in terms of actual dollars spent per capita. China has *BY FAR* the fastest growing consumer growth in spending in the world. You can't ignore 1.3 billion people who have increased discretionary spending who wanna buy stuff.

    7. Re:Latency by techsoldaten · · Score: 1

      Google News, sweetheart.

      It's all part of the package.

      M

    8. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Google News, sweetheart.

      But why are you comparing Google News to Accoona? Accoona is a search engine, not a news portal.

      This is apples-and-oranges.

    9. Re:Latency by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 1

      try google news, and remove the (possibly misspelled) middle name:

      Clicky link. I am already getting more info on this than I can stand, as it happened in the county where I live.

    10. Re:Latency by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

      Thanks for pointing out this basic fact: Accoona is developed by a *US COMPANY* that simply does a lot of business with China. The header remark:

      "Accoona Corp. was one of the Chinese companies that donated an 'undisclosed amount' to the recently opened Clinton Library." ... is completely wrong. Accoona was developed by China Communication Corp of Hoboken, New Jersey. Last I checked, New Jersey isn't in China. Do a whois on accoona.com, also - it's adminstrative contract, its technical contact, everything is in New Jersey.

      Blah. I'll bugger off now and let this thread turn to Clinton bashing, as the article submitter was undoubtedly intending.

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    11. Re:Latency by nocomment · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's currently censored by not returning any results.

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    12. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True

      But they also commit suicide at a rate of 4/minute. In the US it's at about 8-9 a day (with about 25-30% the population).

    13. Re:Latency by techsoldaten · · Score: 1

      I don't see an Accoona News to switch to. I guess a lack of features and an inferior result set is a good reason to move to another search engine.

      Again, it's the package that delivers the value.

      M

    14. Re:Latency by JDevers · · Score: 1

      Not just per capita, largest outright. Now China's IS growing much faster, but that doesn't mean it is the largest NOW, it means it may (probably will...) become the largest at some point in the future.

    15. Re:Latency by MCraigW · · Score: 2, Funny
      But they also commit suicide at a rate of 4/minute.

      We could sell Dr. Kervorkian type services to them... what a money maker!

    16. Re:Latency by jxs2151 · · Score: 1
      Not in 5-10 years

      American corporations have been salivating over "The World's Largest Market" for how many years now? And the promises are always 5-10 years out.

      All that has happened is the Chinese government has used promises like this to extract intellectual capital as a price for access to this super market.

      Net result- Global corporations have sold out America for some never-to-be-realized promise of 100 billion Chinese buying their cell phones.

      This will go down as the scam of the ages whenever that 5-10 year promise expires...probably in about 300 years...or maybe 305-310 years.

    17. Re:Latency by sewagemaster · · Score: 1

      Although I seriously doubt the folks at Google are shuddering over this new "rival", you can't overlook the potential benefit to American companies who are looking to do business in the world's largest consumer market.

      Nike being a prime example - it's also quite difficult when the Chinese government decides to ban Nike Commercials because having Lebron James defeating cartoons of "a kung fu master, two women in traditional Chinese attire and a pair of dragons", were all "insulting" to their country's image.

    18. Re:Latency by b-baggins · · Score: 1

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      Only in terms of actual dollars spent per capita.
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      Since this is THE definition of the size of a consumer market, what was your point again? Other than trying to pain a brutal Communist dictatorship as some sort of Utopia, that is?

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    19. Re:Latency by Rei · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Good point - the parent was comparing apples and oranges, since their search was about current news, which is an additional feature that accoona never claimed to support at the present time. Lets compare real searches on controversial topics.

      Search for: uranium enrichment

      Google top hits: A lay-person article from the US nuclear regulatory commission; A more detailed, although still not technical article from the australian Uranium Information Centre; 6 old news articles about controversy about Iran's nuclear intentions; a completely nondescriptive page of a company that deals in uranium enrichment equipment; and an article nearly identical to the second one, from the World Nuclear Association.

      Accoona top hits: A whole bunch of spammy sponsored links, right at the top of the page instead of on a side bar (booo!). The WISE project (World Information Service on Energy)'s links (some quite technical) about the entire uranium production and enrichment cycle, although from an environmentalist standpoint. The American Nuclear Society front page (useless, without further search on the site). 2 bloggers writing about Iran's nuclear program. A PDF (no convert to HTML option) of an investor factsheet about an enrichment company (no technical details at all). A blogger, whose site shows nothing relevant that I can see (and there is no cache option). Another front page to an inapplicable site (Riodejanero.com - apparently at some time in the past it had an article about getting approval for an enrichment plant). 2 old news articles about Iran's program controversy. The homepage of the Nuclear Information and Resource Service (no good information visible in apparent links; apparently the group is related to WISE).

      Summary:
      While google returned a lot of results tangential to actual uranium enrichment (for example, about the fact that one particular country, Iran, has been enriching uranium; if a person wanted those results, they realistically would have added Iran to their search), it performed far better than Accoona. Accoona returned a lot of "front pages" to websites instead of links to actual articles; many links to sources that no longer had the relevant article linked; and links to many poor quality sources (such as blogs). All in all, Google clearly wins top marks.

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    20. Re:Latency by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      Bah, everyone knows Hoboken, New Jersey is overrun by chinese commies!

    21. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a much better example.

    22. Re:Latency by drp · · Score: 1

      At the risk of being crude, I'm not terribly suprised by the Chinese government not wanting their citizens to read articles about people being run over by tank^H^H^H^H cars.

    23. Re:Latency by dalutong · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Chinese suicide rate is indeed high (note: i grew up in China), but the reasons aren't easily guessed.

      First, obviosly, China has 4-5 times the population. That makes China's about twice the percent.

      Second, China has a very high rural suicide rate. Many of the people who commit suicide are women. While men in America successfully kill themselves more than women do, women attempt it twice as frequently as men. Imagine if America had the same poor heathcare and readily available means of suicide (deadly pesticides are commonly used, as I understand it. those are available in rural China in a way that they are not available here in the U.S.)

      I don't know these numbers but I'd like to check out suicide attemp rates in the U.S. I can't really guess which would be higher. As much as I love both countries (and an American who was raised in China might), both have serious problems that could lead to high suicide rates.

      Having grown up in China finding such high levels of depression in America was a surprise. After all, we're supposedly leading the lives everyone wants to emulate...

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    24. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you know what "per capita" means?

    25. Re:Latency by b-baggins · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Spending power. Next question?

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    26. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try a search for "China violates human rights" (without quotes) on Accoona and then on DogPile and Google. The first "most relevant" result from Accoona is "Human Rights on eBay - Find human rights items at low prices. With over 5 million items for sale every day, you'll find all kinds of unique things on eBay - the World's Online Marketplace." Compare that to what you get on DogPile and Google. Uuhhh. I'd say Accoona is censoring BIG TIME.

    27. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what???
      http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict

    28. Re:Latency by plasm4 · · Score: 1

      The industrious ones among us have already been making lots of money doing business in China, it isn't a far away promise.

    29. Re:Latency by Cade144 · · Score: 1

      Spot on.

      Searching for the tools of democracy yields similarly dissappointing results

      Roberts Rules of Order on Google:

      Gives a list of websites that explain and inform about Robert's Rules of Order, the basis of western parlimentary procedure.

      Roberts Rules of Order on Accoona:

      Links on were to buy a book about Robert's rules, than a bunch of links for un-related things like "Julia Roberts" and "Norah Roberts".

      Consumerism over substance, looks like to me.

    30. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wha? how DARE you bring facts into a political argument! for shame!

    31. Re:Latency by cybersaga · · Score: 0

      Just to test out this "new technology" I compared a few search results for common searches, from both Accoona and Google.

      Searching for "Shareaza"
      Position of shareaza.com
      Google: 2nd result (though 1st was their sourceforge page)
      Accoona: 4th result

      Searching for "Kazaa"
      Position of kazaa.com
      Google: 1st result
      Accoona: 20th page!

      Searching for "Microsoft"
      Position of microsoft.com
      Google: 1st result
      Accoona: 11th result

      Searching for "Sourceforge"
      Position of sourceforge.net
      Google: 1st result
      Accoona: 1st result

      Searching for "Slashdot"
      Position of slashdot.org
      Google: 1st result
      Accoona: 3rd result

      Accoona only matched Google 1/5 times. I think the point is proven. My Googlebar stays.

    32. Re:Latency by iceperson · · Score: 1

      According to the AP, 'Bill Clinton on Monday helped launch a new Internet search company backed by the Chinese government which says its technology uses artificial intelligence to produce better results than Google Inc.'

      Actually there is nothing that isn't factual in this sentence.

    33. Re:Latency by fubar1971 · · Score: 1

      Although I seriously doubt the folks at Google are shuddering over this new "rival"

      Only old people in korea will be using it.

    34. Re:Latency by ePhil_One · · Score: 1
      The industrious ones among us have already been making lots of money doing business in China, it isn't a far away promise.

      BMW and Mercedes are already doing a good business there, and cell phones ARE a booming market because the country lacks the copper infrastructure of the US and Western Europe.

      If we chose to ignore it the rest of the so-called Asian Tigers will be overjoyed to take the business we ignore, not to mention the Europeans.

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    35. Re:Latency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, obviosly, China has 4-5 times the population. That makes China's about twice the percent.

      Why does having a 4-5 times bigger population increase the % of that population killing themselves?

      After all, we're supposedly leading the lives everyone wants to emulate...

      Bwahahaha!

    36. Re:Latency by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      Search for Mepis Linux:
      http://accoona.com/search?charset=utf-8&la =en&col= mc&qt=mepis+linux&accoona+submit=Accoona+Searc h

      Top result on their search engine: Microsoft, why not to invest in Linux

      Top result on google: MEPIS LINUX LLC Homepage

    37. Re:Latency by neoform · · Score: 1

      funny, i just seached for "free tibet" and got a hole lot of sites promoting a *shock* free Tibet... doesn't seem *that* censored to me..

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    38. Re:Latency by whereiswaldo · · Score: 1

      Take Toronto for example (as a relatively small large city). Lots of violence, and you hear about extremely brutal and hard to explain murders now and then (like the one in the news now).

      My believe is that not everyone can handle densely populated areas. It can literally make you crazy if you're not suited to it. I would bet that many of these murderers could have led normal lives if placed in a different environment. I know someone who left the downtown area just because they realized what it was doing to them emotionally. It took time, but what a difference it had on them as a person. You could just see it.

      Now imagine a *huge* city and multiply the effects.

    39. Re:Latency by JThundley · · Score: 1

      I believe that the reason women "attempt suicide" twice as frequently as men is because whoever got those numbers counted slitting your wrists as a suicide attemp.

    40. Re:Latency by dalutong · · Score: 1

      i have a great (female) friend who has many scars on her wrist. many were "nothing," but once her life was saved by someone who didn't think it was a joke and took her to the hospital after finding her unconscious, bleeding to death -- me. i wouldn't call slitting wrists a joke.

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    41. Re:Latency by dalutong · · Score: 1

      i meant to say twice the number. sorry.

      and i compliment your Bwahahaha. i wish everyone here in america realized that.

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    42. Re:Latency by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I guess the Chinese have no confidence in Al Gore?

    43. Re:Latency by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Kathy Feaganes Allen ... No mention of it on Accoona at all, plenty on Google.

      Six or so links to news sites now. But to be fair, it's touted as a web search, not news specifically. There are plenty of sites if you want breaking news.

    44. Re:Latency by stupidfoo · · Score: 1

      Does anyone? As witnessed by his insane ramblings during the 2004 elections, the man truly needs help.

    45. Re:Latency by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "Having grown up in China finding such high levels of depression in America was a surprise. After all, we're supposedly leading the lives everyone wants to emulate..."

      You must be new to Slashdot, then. Around here, people will emulate Windows long before they emulate the US.

  2. dbarbour.com by dustinbarbour · · Score: 1, Redundant

    dbarbour.com is my personal website. Google has it ranked on the first page when you query my name, Dustin Barbour. Accoona doesn't even know it exists.

    That's all the convincing I need to stay with Google.

    1. Re:dbarbour.com by isometrick · · Score: 0

      1) Can it find MY website?
      2) ???
      3) Profit!

    2. Re:dbarbour.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bravo!

    3. Re:dbarbour.com by MoonFog · · Score: 1

      First 5 results are sponsored links it appears.. "sponsored results" link to this page: http://www.content.overture.com/d/USm/ays/bjump/. So unless you want to pay to have your site on top, I bet it won't get there at first.

    4. Re:dbarbour.com by dustinbarbour · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Oddly enough, I laughed my ass off when I read your post!

  3. Things the Clinton Search Engine finds fast: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Knee Pads
    Intern Job Listings
    Porn
    Cigars
    Directions to the Clinton Library and Massage Parlor in Little Rock
    Rose Law Firm Records
    Cattle Future Stock Quotes

    1. Re:Things the Clinton Search Engine finds fast: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi, 1998 called, they want their jokes back.

    2. Re:Things the Clinton Search Engine finds fast: by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Funny

      Peter: I bet Hillary could straighten things out....even though she could never straighten out Bill!
      Lois: I love it when you use topical humor. It's just like watching Murphy Brown.

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      "Hey, Murphy, blablablablablaaaablablabla, John Sununu!"
      "Bla bla bla blaa blabla, Tipper Gore."
      "Hey, Murph, you can bla bla bla the Ayatollah!"
      "Bla bla bla bla, Desmond Tutu, bla."

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    3. Re:Things the Clinton Search Engine finds fast: by nartz · · Score: 1

      Here is its SUPERB! Search for 'GOOGLE', vewy vewy fast!
      Unsurpisingly, the first result is in what, French? The rest appear as boxes to me. How do I change the language again? Oh wait, I can't.

  4. Of course... by chris_eineke · · Score: 1
    "With all those nasty pro-democracy websites that Google keeps turning up, what's a communist country supposed to do?"

    Invent Sovet Russia jokes, of course. ;-)
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    1. Re:Of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, jokes invent you!

  5. My first search phrase... by andres9606t · · Score: 1

    "Down with China!"

    1. Re:My first search phrase... by shahruz · · Score: 1

      I tried to search for something that would generate a lot of hits to see how it ranked them. I searched "SQL Server" and after the paid links my first result was (beware of popups) http://sql-server-2000-personal.relationshipdating .info/ .. a dating service! LOL

  6. yo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    china for teh win

  7. The real question is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How come Michael Simms didn't kill himself, as promised, after Kerry was defeated? Or maybe he's planning on moving to France.

  8. Wow by bool+morpheus() · · Score: 0

    A simple search for "google", but not one result for the search engine itself. I searched for Slashdot, but also didn't see a slashdot.org result.

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  9. Why Clinton? by zimus · · Score: 1

    Why should we listen to a politician with regards to the search engine we use?

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    1. Re:Why Clinton? by Ironsides · · Score: 2, Funny

      So that we know which one NOT to use?

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    2. Re:Why Clinton? by eln · · Score: 1

      Because he's a popular public figure. Obviously, the strategy worked, as the company is getting a ton of free publicity in the form of news reports that they would not have gotten without a big name attached to the announcement.

  10. Trying searching for banned terms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Interesting to look for "Tiananmen Square", it doesn't seem to be completely banned. Or maybe the filter only comes into effect if you're behind the Great Firewall of China?

    1. Re:Trying searching for banned terms by 3StrangeAllies · · Score: 0

      It would be interesting to check with some Chinese /. users, but they'd already be in camps ;-p

      Another search that returned an apparent objective result : "chinese democracy human right" with Tibetan NGOs appearing first...

      Not that I like the almighty power of capitalism, but if it can help bringing human rights in China...(but not in the US conception, though)

    2. Re:Trying searching for banned terms by yog · · Score: 1

      I searched for "tiananmen massacre". Amazingly, a few sites actually came up that mention the 1989 shootings of students in Tiananmen Square, but the top 10 also includes Texas chainsaw massacre and a few other irrelevancies. There were almost no major news sites in the search results.

      Conversely, Google returns a lot more relevant hits on this subject many of which are major, reputable news sites with "Tiananmen Massacre" shown prominently in the summaries.

      I would say, stick to Google.

      It figures that Bill Clinton would endorse this crummy Google wannabe. Whatever one may think of Clinton, his China policy was rather undistinguished and ineffectual.

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    3. Re:Trying searching for banned terms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should a search engine show any real info on fake story made up by the horrible US goverment?

    4. Re:Trying searching for banned terms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      www.unilang.org is blocked in China, but accoona returns a link for it on the first page when you search for unilang. www.falundafa.org appears in search results as well as www.dit-inc.com(this is a company which will help you pierce the great firewall if you need to access banned sites). I'm pretty sure that they are not filtering results at all if you are not in China.

    5. Re:Trying searching for banned terms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, that's www.dit-inc.us .

  11. Cataloguing latency? by eln · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How much of the difference in quality results has to do with the fact that Google has a huge head start in indexing the web? Maybe Acoona's results will improve over time?

    1. Re:Cataloguing latency? by APDent · · Score: 1

      ...better results than Google Inc.

      ...doesn't show how it's anywhere near the level of Google.

      I guess it depends on how one defines "better". Perhaps "better" in this case means "omits a lot of pesky political stuff that no searcher really wants to hear about".

  12. Money trail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did the Chinese donate as much money to the Clinton Library as the Saudis?

    1. Re:Money trail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more.

  13. Oh my god! by Spock+the+Vulcan · · Score: 4, Funny

    We slashdotted China!

    We bastards!

    1. Re:Oh my god! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFLMAO

    2. Re:Oh my god! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      We slashdotted China!

      And you can see the Great Firewall smoking from space!

    3. Re:Oh my god! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you can see the Great Firewall smoking from space!

      Like this?

    4. Re:Oh my god! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > We slashdotted China!

      No you slashdotted China! Don't drag the rest of us down with you.

  14. I actually tried this when on a business trip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    But only an hour later, I was hungry for subversion again.

  15. Artificial Intelligence! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Because no REAL intelligence ever came out of the Clinton administration!" (TM)

  16. doesn't seem so bad by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 4, Interesting

    free tibet still gets plenty of hits....

    even falun gong gets plenty of hits back.

    Once I get off work im gonna have to anonymous proxy inside china and try it.

    1. Re:doesn't seem so bad by darkani · · Score: 2, Interesting

      try "taiwan independence" or "taiwanese independence"

    2. Re:doesn't seem so bad by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 1

      Once I get off work im gonna have to anonymous proxy inside china and try it.

      I'd suspect that "AI" means they have a system for repressing information delivered to Chinese customers, but can use a separate algorithm for delivering to the rest of the world. Hence, the Chinese citizens receive sanitized results, while the rest of the world doesn't see what gets sanitized because the results aren't touched. Not a bad move, because more non-Chinese users will use this if there's no censorship.

    3. Re:doesn't seem so bad by bleckywelcky · · Score: 1

      No, don't do that! You're gonna get some random chinese librarian killed because you've attempted to access a blocked site through the proxy they have responsibility over. Oh, the horrors!

    4. Re:doesn't seem so bad by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Yea if you check in the article tords the bottom you'll see that the define the AI. It is not Artificial Intelegence, it is Accountable Information. Meaining that it is able to filter out information not accountable to the Chinese government.

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  17. Yes comrade, doubleplusgood results! by mveloso · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    It not only dispenses only happy news articles about China, it also makes sure that you only see articles that are appropriate.

    If you are found searching for inappropriate terms, you will be visited by a reeducation specialist who will diagnose your condition and recommend appropriate treatment.

    This is for your own protection. Only people that are ill would be interested in things that are not good for them. Thus, by tracking people with this illness and fixing them, we are making a better China!

    1. Re:Yes comrade, doubleplusgood results! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seen on giant, ominous black and white billboards all over Beijing:

      ACCOONA: IT WORKS.

  18. Interesting that Bill Clinton helped by HadesX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Guess he is just thanking the Chinese for all of those funds he rec'd, democracy be damned.

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    1. Re:Interesting that Bill Clinton helped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention all the military secrets Clinton gave China when he let them infiltrate our labs.

      That should have been the real impeachment case, not some lame sex scandal.

  19. Already Slashdotted! by BTWR · · Score: 1

    Go China!

    1. Re:Already Slashdotted! by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Go banana!

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    2. Re:Already Slashdotted! by BTWR · · Score: 1

      Goooooooooooo grapefruit!

    3. Re:Already Slashdotted! by michaelpoltorak · · Score: 1

      Well, it seems they anticipated that. The first hit when searching for "slashdot" is a link to "MirrorDot", the site that automatically mirrors any linked pages in the Slashdot story.

  20. Way better than google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Internal Server Error
    The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

    Please contact the server administrator, admin@ewr-web04 and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

    More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

    Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.accoona.com Port 80

  21. Searched for "communism" ... by cpn2000 · · Score: 1
    The third link on the list was http://www.victimsofcommunism.org/


    I think this means that it still needs some work.

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    1. Re:Searched for "communism" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this means that your internet connection doesn't originate in China

    2. Re:Searched for "communism" ... by tarkas · · Score: 1

      I think this means that your internet connection doesn't originate in China

      Are you saying they'ed have a system that recognized the source of a request then responded appropriately? Like foreign journalists get victomsofcommunism.com whilst a resident of Hong Kong gets his door kicked in?
      Heh, not that our media folks, showbiz folks or academia actually question the legitamacy of Communism - just specific implementations.

      We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Well, sort of.
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0840 379943/103-2263410-8029437?v=glance

      Venona Program
      http://www.nsa.gov/publications/publi00039.cfm
      http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/venona/venona.htm

  22. Results sound like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a bucket of silverware being dropped from a second story window

  23. How Accoona is Better Than Google by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to a Chinese government spokesperson, "Accoona is a more efficient search engine because while Google uses automated system applications to crawl the Internet and add to their databse, we have assigned 481.2 million Chinese citizens the task of manually surfing the Internet and cataloging every site by hand. They work faster and far cheaper than Google's automated software."

    There you have it.

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    1. Re:How Accoona is Better Than Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hahahhahaah... +5, hilarious!

    2. Re:How Accoona is Better Than Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's scary is that I read that whole comment with an asian guy voice in my head (a la South Park).

    3. Re:How Accoona is Better Than Google by ajs · · Score: 1

      Actually, they describe it as being better than google because of the SuperTarget feature. This appears to be roughly the same as putting a "+" in front of a search term in your Google search, but Accoona has a GUI for it.

    4. Re:How Accoona is Better Than Google by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 1

      What's sad is that Marxist Hacker 42 would actually advocate this approach in the name of "full employment"...

  24. Suggested searches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tienanmen square
    falun gong

  25. Not very good to start off with... by jakel2k · · Score: 1

    Hmmm......Internal Server Error
    Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.accoona.com Port 80

  26. Try Unreal Tournament 2004 by 77Punker · · Score: 1

    What did I get? I got a bunch of ads for game retailers, not reviews or fan sites showing up at the top of the list. It sucks, but what should I have expected from China and Bill Clinton?

    1. Re:Try Unreal Tournament 2004 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's lots of things you can search for on google that only turn up retailers and not reviews. UT2004 works because it's popular and people linking to the reviews overpowers the retailer links. Get something not as popular, and you're lucky if only half the links are retail links.

    2. Re:Try Unreal Tournament 2004 by eln · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is it's just like Google. It's pretty much impossible to get any results for any product on any search engine, including Google, these days, where the first 10 pages aren't just ads for the product.

    3. Re:Try Unreal Tournament 2004 by WaterBreath · · Score: 1
      I was going to say, "at least you didn't get the Mothers Against Violent Acts website", but when I search google to get a link, I couldn't even find it. Do they not have one, or is Google missing it?

      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22mother s+against+violent+acts%22&btnG=Search

  27. Horrible submission form by StandardsSchmandards · · Score: 1

    Submitting your site for indexing requires you to send them an email with the URL. I'm wary about sending my email address to an unknown chinese company. No thanks.

    Also, they have a lot of unnecessary html in their layout. Are they not expecting any traffic?

  28. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they call it "Googre"

  29. I'm disappointed in Clinton. by Pxtl · · Score: 1

    This is obviously part of China's oppressive "great firewall of China". Its disappointing to see Clinton involved in something like this. While I know he made it a point in his administration to maintain good relations with China, this kind of encouragement of their censorship activities shouldn't happen.

    Damn - why's he gotta keep smearing my old '90s rose-coloured-glasses?

    1. Re:I'm disappointed in Clinton. by cryptochrome · · Score: 1

      There ought to be some watchdog group that picks out companies that are willing to actively thwart basic human rights and democratic freedoms in other countries in the pursuit of a quick buck, and organizes boycotts and divestment campaigns against them. I'd say there should be legal provisions against them too, but I know those laws would be heavily misapplied.

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      ---If you can't trust a nerd, who can you trust?

    2. Re:I'm disappointed in Clinton. by lifeblender · · Score: 2, Informative

      We've got to be friends with them, or we'll be enemies. Clinton knows that the Right in the US would love to demonize China, especially once we run out of middle eastern countries again. So he pre-empts that by publicly cooperating with them. So what if they've violated international human rights agreements? If we hate them for that we'd better stop turning our eyes from our own self-abuse. All large organizations prey on the populace, governments included, the US government included. Clinton is as sharp as he always was. He knows, as you should, that the general policies of a large country are dictated not only by necessity but by ugly politics. If he goes over there and makes nice, just like Bush Sr. did, then we can talk with them about their politics. If it becomes a cold war, then each side will treat the other as faceless, and their political machinery will be out-of-bounds. So let him go over there and talk. Let him say we like China. We do like China; they'd be a good friend, and they treat their citizens about as well as we treat ours. The treatment is different, but the indifference and disrespect is the same.

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      Playing pornographics games during the day is evil! Play at night!
    3. Re:I'm disappointed in Clinton. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We've got to be friends with them, or we'll be enemies. Chamberlain knows that the Right in the UK would love to demonize Germany, especially once we run out of middle eastern countries again. So he pre-empts that by publicly cooperating with them. So what if they've violated international human rights agreements? If we hate them for that we'd better stop turning our eyes from our own self-abuse. All large organizations prey on the populace, governments included, the UK government included. Chamberlain is as sharp as he always was. He knows, as you should, that the general policies of a large country are dictated not only by necessity but by ugly politics. If he goes over there and makes nice, just like Stalin did, then we can talk with them about their politics. If it becomes a cold war, then each side will treat the other as faceless, and their political machinery will be out-of-bounds. So let him go over there and talk. Let him say we like Germany. We do like Germany; they'd be a good friend, and they treat their citizens about as well as we treat ours. The treatment is different, but the indifference and disrespect is the same.

    4. Re:I'm disappointed in Clinton. by MixmastaKooz · · Score: 1

      Accoona has created their own search engine and needed seed money. Accoona donated money to Clinton's Library. Riffing off what someone posted further up, the inclusion of "Chinese backed" could be considered unethical in terms of journalistic integrity because
      a) the reader assumes that Clinton's library is being financed directly by the Chinese.
      b) this "Chinese company" mentioned in the second sentence isn't Chinese, but actually an American company in New Jersey.

      Therefore, this breaks down to the chicken and the egg--which came first? Accoona's donation or China's seed money? But does this last question matter if the core tech of their search engine is benign and will only be used for evil when the Chinese receive shipment of the final product? I would assume that it is benign technology (It seems startups might be looking at China for startup money, though!).

      Finally, there are plenty of companies that made money from doing business with the Chinese government and dontated money to other presidential libraries. Should we condemn Carter, Ford, Bush Sr., and Reagan, too?

  30. Not good results? Simple answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using the search engine from inside the US doesn't show any noticeable amount of censorship, but it also doesn't show how it's anywhere near the level of Google."

    That's an easy answer. You're just searching for the wrong things that's all. Try searching for things that matter like counter-strike cafes and dog meat recipes.

  31. Sold China our Missile Technology why not Search ? by Art+Pollard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This isn't too surprising. Bill Clinton sold China our multi-stage missile technology for satellite launching. China is using this to build ICBMs to target the western United States. (And have since threatened to hit Los Angeles with a nuclear warhead if we ever interfere in regards to our ally Taiwan.) This was after he received numerous under the table donations for his campaign from the Chinese government and financiers. After he sold out our national security to the Chinese for some campaign donations, giving the Chinese a national search engine is no big deal.

  32. Search for "Linux" by GeorgeWright · · Score: 1

    Hrmm, doesn't look like a particularly good search engine to me. I searched on it for "Linux" just to see what it would churn up and the first hit was a link to microsoft.com. All the search results appear to be "Sponsored Links"...

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    George Wright
    1. Re:Search for "Linux" by MoonFog · · Score: 1

      First sponsored link was indeed from Microsoft, but it's "only" the first 5 that are sponsored. Further down you'll see "acoona results". That said, this was the first site it found on Linux: http://software-linux.jovencitas-cachondas.org/

    2. Re:Search for "Linux" by rmartinsjr · · Score: 1

      Even worse than searching for "Linux" in MSN Search.

  33. WTFometer pegged. by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > Bill Clinton on Monday helped launch a new Internet search company backed by the Chinese government which says its technology uses artificial intelligence to produce better results than Google Inc.

    I'm sorry, I just wanted to re-read that sentence in all its glory. And to pound my head on the desk every fourth or fifth word. I've discovered that the mental imagery starts to look more coherent if you soak the brain in at least three beers' worth of alcohol before applying the blunt force trauma.

    On the bright side, if Fark ever holds a "Photoshop this Salvador Dali Masterpiece" contest, that sentence is gonna make me a surefire winner.

    1. Re:WTFometer pegged. by weston · · Score: 1

      What do you expect in a society that told you Al Gore said he invented the internet?

  34. What a name. by sploo22 · · Score: 1

    Accoona Matata?

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    1. Re:What a name. by sploo22 · · Score: 1

      Holy cow, that's really where they got the name? I should start reading the articles more often. Never mind, carry on.

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    2. Re:What a name. by stupidfoo · · Score: 1

      The original writeup I sent mentioned that the Disney movie was where the name came from. The (communist?) slashdot editors chopped it off.

      It's strangely similar to Russia calling it's newspaper "Pravda" which meant "Truth". Accoona Matata = "No Worries"

    3. Re:What a name. by MCraigW · · Score: 1
      Accoona Matata?

      I believe that is "Hakuna Matata" http://www.lionking.org/lyrics/OBCR/HakunaMatata.h tml

    4. Re:What a name. by Ulven · · Score: 1

      Except Accoona is from Hakuna, which means 'no'. By any account a strange name to call a search engine.

  35. Payback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all those nice and shiney missiles and defense systems Clintoon let them have...

  36. Big Brother anyone? by namekuseijin · · Score: 1

    artificial intelligence to produce better results than Google

    I'd call this "artificial intelligence" the Comunist Party and the "better results" controled flow of information...

    Nice to see a democrat suportful of free speech.

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    I don't feel like it...
  37. first result for 'linux' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    microsoft.com...

    first post!

  38. Re:Can you hear the sound of "blue" states... by corbettw · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...claiming this is a dirty trick of Karl Rove?

    Well, that explains why Bill Clinton is behind it. Slick Willy will do anything to advance the Republican agenda.

    (Psst, that was me being sarcastic.)

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    God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
  39. But why do all the news results by CodeHog · · Score: 1

    come from the onion web site?

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    Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
  40. Does this me web war? by aoptik · · Score: 1

    I am a little cynical here but
    AI + stupid users = more stupid users

    In the future war will be waged with information and education making AI do most of the work for you in lets say research is like a double wedged sword. Lets see how this will evolve.. I hope google gets in gear and wacking this new search engine. Nice to see good competition

  41. News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's one of those things you go "gee what a loon" and go on. I would hardly consider it news - it's just gossip. It has no bearing on anyone's life save the few parties directly involved and possibly a jury of her peers. The fact this would be considered "news" (much less "compelling") is, I think, a great illustration of how we as a nation could have been so stupid to re-elect a liar as a president.. or even to have believed him in the first place.

    Off topic? Think about it.

    1. Re:News? by MCraigW · · Score: 1
      Actually, I don't think that Bill Clinton did that bad a job as president...

      It's considered news because it is something people are interested in hearing about. News outlets are interested in stuff that will get people to consume their content.

  42. I would expect this by cpuenvy · · Score: 1

    The first thing that I noticed was that when you go to the page, the cursor does not have focus in the search field.

    Searching for "tiananmen student uprising" yeilded no information on that event.

    http://accoona.com/search?charset=utf-8&la=en&co l= mc&qt=beijing+tiananmen+student+uprising&accoona+s ubmit=Accoona+Search

    The site cannot handle traffic like Google!

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    DISCLAIMER:

    I don't believe what I write, and neither should you.

  43. nothing really new. by ssand · · Score: 1

    From the looks of it, there is nothing really new. It feels kind of like the yahoo search, and not as friendly. With my test searches, I found it difficult initially to seperate the sponsored links from the real ones, since they use a light grey text on a white background to seperate them.

  44. Cyber-warfare by pete-classic · · Score: 1

    Well, the first shot has been fired in the first "cyber-war."

    Who thought that China would be the victim? Who though slashdot would be the aggressor?

    -Peter

  45. Search for "tiananmen square" by closms · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe there is something to this.

    A search for tiananmen square on Accoona reveals mostly "Travel China" sites, although it does show the National Association for Democracy page as the 11th hit.

    A search for tiananmen square on Google finds sites like "student protests", "history declassified" and the wikipedia page.

    Hmmm, maybe there is something to this conspiracy theory.

    1. Re:Search for "tiananmen square" by Nick+Harkin · · Score: 1

      Yup, that's the very first thing I put into it as well (after using Google to find the correct spelling). I'm going to see how the situation changes over the next few days or weeks, as the engine gets used more and more.

  46. huh? by northcat · · Score: 1

    Whats up with condemning it just because its from China (instead of just pointing out its crappy quality)? Oh yes, I forgot, this is Slashdot, the epitome of American geekhood, all things communist must be evil. Yes, that's right, mod me down - that wont be censorship, that'll be just democracy.

  47. Google MUCH better by Buzz_Litebeer · · Score: 1

    I have been throwing some very general queries of things I am interested in. Google returns results with information, acoona search tends to return results for where you can buy something.

    We already have those search engines, they are prolific and generally suck.

    I used "Battletech" and "Half Life" as searches, you can see the massive difference.

    Google returns with classicbattletech.com, and patrics battletech archive. Though it does return fasa.com, though this actually shows the strength of google, since fasa is the one that has/had rights to battletech, linking a site called fasa.com is not bad.

    Half life... well try it yourself, the google search comes up with planethalflife, the official home page, etc. etc..

    Acoona? No real good from it.

    Perhaps when they say "better" results than google, they mean "better" in the term that someone might better sell a product?

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    If you don't vote, you don't matter, so don't waste your time telling me your opinion
  48. ...yet another proof that Mr. Clinton is a commie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He does it again ...He ridicules our country and we love him for it...

    I wonder how much money have the Chinese deposited in Clinton's Swiss accounts...

  49. maybe it's slashdotted already... by hjf · · Score: 1

    but i tried a google search on "freedom": it gave 52,000,000 results, and my search took 0,07 seconds. but accoona takes over a minute and gives absolutely no results. go figure.

  50. It fails by ad0gg · · Score: 1
    Miserable Failure

    Doesn't show President Bush's Website, Michael Moore Website or Jimmy Carters Website. Come on now, what type of search engine doesn't allow you to spam the results.

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    Have you ever been to a turkish prison?

  51. Huh by sekicho · · Score: 1

    Looks like Clinton really doesn't want to make our bankers mad.

  52. Gives new meaning by scaaven · · Score: 0

    I guess this search engine gives a new meaning to the Chinese Room

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  53. Can't find 'google' on Accoona by LeiGong · · Score: 1
    http://www.accoona.com/search?col=mc&qt=google

    Does anyone else find it weird that searching up 'google' comes up with nothing useful on Accoona? Given that Google is one of the most popular sites on the web and it's chief competitor, I find this very suspicious. Either the engine is completely useless or we're definitely seeing censorship at work. The Chinese would have to be idiots to think this is a "real" search engine.

    1. Re:Can't find 'google' on Accoona by mcon1 · · Score: 1

      You picked a good one to search for. I finally found Google on page 7 of the results. (though it isn't www.google.com, just news.google.com and images.google.com) I just scanned through 20 pages of results, and never came across the American Google homepage. Though when I did a search for Yahoo, www.yahoo.com was the 10th result.

    2. Re:Can't find 'google' on Accoona by obsid1an · · Score: 1
      Does anyone else find it weird that searching up 'google' comes up with nothing useful on Accoona? Given that Google is one of the most popular sites on the web and it's chief competitor, I find this very suspicious. Either the engine is completely useless or we're definitely seeing censorship at work. The Chinese would have to be idiots to think this is a "real" search engine.

      Alternatively, if you search for Accoona on Google, it is the top hit with only the news story of Accoona.com launching above it. Yea, looks like a real winner here.

  54. what type of name is Accoona? by ssand · · Score: 1

    Accoona is a horrible name imo. It doesn't sound too catchy, and the double c's, and o's don't appear too user friendly. With places like google, and yahoo, it's alot easier to spell, and type in.

  55. Communist search... by SkipRosebaugh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just for fun, I decided to search on flaws of communism, just before Accoona got slashdotted. Very few, if any, of the search results mentioned "flaws" in the title or summary, and the third or fourth result was actually a communist party homepage. Google, on the other hand, produces relevant documents right off the bat, in America, at least. (Sorry for the imprecision, I closed the window before deciding to post this, and couldn't get in to research.)

    1. Re:Communist search... by mboos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I got something similar for 'Flaws of communism,' with the following suggestion:

      Spelling suggestion: laws of communism

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      --Mike Boos
    2. Re:Communist search... by liangzai · · Score: 1

      You must have spelled wrong. I get the following page titles:

      Flaws of Capitalism. Flaws of Communism
      Socialism and Communism: Flaws of Communism
      SchoolSucks Termpapers
      Communism
      A Capitalism-Communism Synthesis
      Communism's Poor Rewards
      THE COLLAPSE OF COMMUNISM

      Etcetera. All are relevant to the search query and list the search terms in title or summary.

      And btw, China is a nominal communist country. In actuality, it is an ultra capitalist nation. You can decry communism all you want in China, people will just look at you with a mesmerized expression, wondering what planet you come from.

  56. Re:Fuck all Eastern shit... by geomon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Japan is west of Seattle.

    Perhaps you weren't aware of the fact that everywhere is west of somewhere.

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    "Rocky Rococo, at your cervix!"
  57. In Communist China by Anubis333 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You search for democracy,
    and engine finds you.

  58. Preview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Accoona!
    "Pawning the Filthy
    Web since 2004"

    [ ] [Search]

    (c)2004 Accoona Corp.
    Searching 8,058,044,651 web pages
    Censoring 8,058,044,651 web pages

    1. Re:Preview by ciroknight · · Score: 1

      Accoona Ma-tatta, What a wonderful phrase!! Accoona Ma-tatta, Ain't no passin craze!! It means censorship, for the rest of your days!!! It's their problem ----- Philosophy!! Accoona Ma-tatta.

      (Well, it worked all the way to the end....)

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      "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." G.W.Bush
  59. Yeah by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    The kind of engine that searches YOU...

    you know, in Communist China

  60. its technology uses artificial intelligence ... by foobsr · · Score: 1

    A case of "Artificial Intelligence Meets Natural Stupidity".

    McDermott, D. Artificial Intelligence Meets Natural Stupidity.
    In Mind Design: Philosophy, Psychology, Artificial Intelligence (ed. J. Haugeland).
    Cambridge, MA: MIT Press, 1981.

    CC.

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    TaijiQuan (Huang, 5 loosenings)
  61. SuperStrong Censorship by squoozer · · Score: 1

    The censorship is so good I can't get any results from it at all. At least they can be shure they got all the "bad" sites.

    Search for "Democracy" it returns: Nothing to see here more right along.

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    I used to have a better sig but it broke.
  62. Better Results Through Technology by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    uses artificial intelligence to produce better results

    I'm sure "better results" refers to any results that do not threaten or embarass the current power structure.

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    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  63. Excerpts from the Guestbook at the Clinton Library by ad0gg · · Score: 1
    Guestbook at Clinton's Library

    Bill Justen, West Memphis, Tenn.:

    Pretty good, I guess. But my feeling is, if you're going to sell cigars in the gift shop, you should be able to smoke them, too. I bought a pretty pricey smoke and wanted to enjoy it as I strolled along the Avenue of the Stars, and I was told in no uncertain terms that smoking was not permitted. When I asked why cigars are sold in the gift shop, I was told that these cigars aren't "the smoking kind." Am I missing something? P.S.: The Sharon Stone robot figure in the Hollywood Atrium is busted.

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    Have you ever been to a turkish prison?

  64. Wow.. searched for 'slashdot' and... by El_Servas · · Score: 1

    The first result is something called "MirrorDot"...

    I searched Slashdot for references on MirrorDot but none returned.

    What is this thing?

    1. Re:Wow.. searched for 'slashdot' and... by Major+Hazard · · Score: 1

      It's where pages linked to in articles are kept so if the originals get Slashdotted you have a mirror.

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      Intel Inside. Idiot Outside.
    2. Re:Wow.. searched for 'slashdot' and... by ins0maniac · · Score: 1

      lol yea, I did the same and slashdot was 3rd. http://accoona.com/search?charset=utf-8&la=en&col= mc&qt=slashdot&accoona+submit=Accoona+Sear ch

  65. Chinkle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Choogle?

  66. Accoona Matata? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Chinese apparently want a site with "no worries"

    (Yes, I know, it's spelled wrong. I don't care)

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    1. Re:Accoona Matata? by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      I know you thought you were playing, but if you had RTFA:

      Accoona takes its name from the Swahili phrase, "accoona matata," for "no worries," popularized by Disney's film, "The Lion King."

      I'm not sure if that's irony, but it sure as hell is funny.

  67. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Chinese government which says its technology uses artificial intelligence to produce better results than Google

    Perhaps they focused so much on "better than Google" that they forget to load-test it? AI software is not known for speed. Right now it is probably thinking:

    "Hmmmm. 8000% more requests than I can handle? Should I lock up? Just process the first one? Let's check the rules database. Wup, that's flooded also. This flow-chart from Bob may offer a clue. It has heuristics prepared by somebody in a similar situation. Okay, it says, "call Mom". Okay.....what? I have no Mom? Hmmmm. Now why don't I have a Mom? Let's go research that....."

  68. You people need to get over yourselves by bogie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Chinese government was one of SEVERAL large investors. Not the only investor as the submittor tried to frame it. This search engine isn't some sort of special anti-democracy device whose sole purpose is to oppress the Chinese people. If you think Clinton was anti-democratic then you must be posting from Cananda right now considering the current administrations policies.

    If we are going to start bashing everyone who has anything to do with making or receiving money from the Chinese government then there are going to be a hell of a lot of Neocon's on the list as well.

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    1. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by 10101001011 · · Score: 1

      you must be posting from Cananda right now

      Yes, what of it?

    2. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Clinton is a socialist and China is just one step ahead (Communism) with some china flavours of course. So yea they generally share the same ideologies (It's for the greater good (non free will) of the people). Not to say Bush is any better. I hope people will soon realise libertarianism is the only way.

    3. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by dan_sdot · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      If you think Clinton was anti-democratic then you must be posting from Cananda right now
      You don't have to think that he is anti-democratic to support a search engine that is censored by the Chinese government. He is just pro-money and pro-self.
    4. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by killjoe · · Score: 1

      The only thing worse then the chinese are those damned homosexuals, oh and jesse jackson. Ooops I forgot janet jackson's nipple. Damn I forgot the french, the french suck too. The germans suck too but since we like their cars and beer so much we are going to boycott them. It's OK to boycott the french because all they make are wine and cheeze. We can't boycott china though cos that would mean never going to a walmart ever again.

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    5. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by johansalk · · Score: 1

      Recently I have noticed many "stories" submitted on slashdot that have a blatantly clear 'hidden agendas'.

    6. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by twitter · · Score: 1
      This search engine isn't some sort of special anti-democracy device whose sole purpose is to oppress the Chinese people.

      No, it's much more than that. It's a propaganda machine for the rest of the world too. Here's a hint, it's in English. They can't block Google outside of China or terrorize the rest of us with arrest for reading the wrong web page.

      Here's another hint. Check out a search for Hungary. I thought of this because a few weeks ago was the 30th or 40th anniversary of the Soviet Union's invasion and brutal supresion of the a nascent anti-communist revolt. The Google result has the CIA world factbook as the second result. That's one data point, I'm sure you can find your own.

      Any company dependent on money from China is going to have to let them censor their statements. You should ignore what your enemy says, because it's usually a waste of your time. I'm going to not worry about this new search engine and be happy for it.

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    7. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by metamatic · · Score: 1
      The Chinese government was one of SEVERAL large investors. Not the only investor as the submittor tried to frame it.

      So what? We've all seen plenty of examples of media outlets self-censoring at the request of organizations that have partial ownership of them.

      Who in their right mind would trust a search engine that had any kind of financial dependence on the Chinese government? Next you'll be telling me I should support search engines run by the Church of Scientology.
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    8. Re:You people need to get over yourselves by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      And more to the point ... why bother?

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  69. Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by ZackSchil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This should signal google to immediately remove all of it censorship in China. They tried to do some minimal censorship but if that wasn't enough, why not just drop out entirely and put up a non-offensive message letting the chinese people know what they're missing. If that gets blocked too, so be it. I've talked to a few students from China in the US and they say that the public apathy over censorship is downright frightening. If your content is being censored, put up a message and withhold it all. Nothing they can do about that.

    1. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by lifeblender · · Score: 1

      But then Google might not get to use its Google Ads program in China, either for technical reasons or because China might block Google. And that's a big market.

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    2. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by northcat · · Score: 1

      This should signal google to immediately remove all of it censorship in China.... blah blah blah

      What the fuck? Google is a fucking company. Why should it do ANYTHING in the interest of the people?!! If you are right, then why can't we just ask all the companies of the world to donate all their profit to charity? Actually, I think this donating is a great idea, but wouldn't that, according to some slashdotters, make me a communist?

    3. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by burns210 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then China would just outright block Google. What would that accomplish?

      Losing a 1.3 billion person market on principle... Sounds nice, but unfortunately, this is the real world.

    4. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by iluvpr0n · · Score: 1

      That sounds great and all, but why do you think Google complied with any censorship demands to begin with? $$.

      Google doesn't want to guarantee losing a market that large to make a point.

    5. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by ZackSchil · · Score: 1

      You're right, these entities are all about making money. How about a UN resolution then? I'm sure the talks alone would be enough to make China take notice.

      Imagine if Microsoft suddenly placed an embargo on China. Then Google blocked them. Then the whole western world started pressuring them to ease up on censorship. They'd have two options: loosen censorship laws or try to replace all of those services themselves.

      If they choose to do things the hard way, I'm certain that their people will take notice. It's all about getting the message out. Many Chinese don't even know to the degree that their information is being censored.

    6. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      Donating is a great idea, and not Communist, at least in the traditional sense. Donations are voluntary. Communism as usually practiced is mandatory. I support people's right to voluntarily form a communistic society as long as participation is not compulsory.

    7. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by throwaway18 · · Score: 1

      This should signal google to immediately remove all of it censorship in China

      I went to a google recruitment event a couple of weeks ago. (Not that good, I have no chance of a job there and the tech talk just repeated the stuff about pagerank, GFS, spelling variations of Britney Spears and the number of querys at 2am on chrismas day a few years ago that anyone interested will already have read on the web)

      Urs Hoelzle, VP Of Operations claimed that they don't censor Chineese search results at all and they are sometimes blocked in China as a result.

      He also mentioned that they guess what country you are in by ip and return different result depening on which area of the work you are in you are in.

    8. Re:Do they know what they're missing? Show them. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Public apathy, period. Really, it's complacency ... we've never had to live with totalitarianism, and so don't recognize the signs. But, they're there, and I have to say the trend long predates George Bush. Sure, 9/11 accelerated the process dramatically but we've been steadily losing ground, civil-liberties-wise, since the signing of the Constitution. Actually, things really began to go sour after World War II: that war (and the massive tax base that resulted from it) turned our relatively small government into a monster of Biblical proportions. Whatever you want to say about Bush (or Clinton, or Reagan or anyone else since Roosevelt) the unfortunate fact is that this has been going on for a long time. The reason I resent all of the Presidents since that time is that they did nothing to try and halt (or even slow) this incremental encroachment upon our freedoms.

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  70. Flood them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With this!

  71. In China... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    In China, the search engine owns You!

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  72. First impressions by jrap · · Score: 1

    My first impression is that it is using too many on-page factors (keyword density, etc) to rank sites, and too little off-site factors (incoming links, etc). This is a good thing for marketers as it makes SEO much easier.

  73. Clinton.. by minus_273 · · Score: 1, Troll

    If you ever wondered what clinton really thought of human rights..this should remove all doubt. where is the media outcry?

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    1. Re:Clinton.. by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      But Clinton is a Democrat and that gives him a pass. Kind of like the way NOW ignores the treatment of women in most muslim countries.

      And mods, debate me - don't try to hid what you do not like.

    2. Re:Clinton.. by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      nah its more like no womens groups cared about paula jones. I mean if it were a republican, it would be another thing..

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    3. Re:Clinton.. by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      I know, the silence is remarkable isn't it.

      Not a single word.

  74. Re:...yet another proof that Mr. Clinton is a comm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought they just paid him in hookers.

  75. Re:Fuck all Eastern shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Point taken, please substitute Eastern with "Evil", and Western with "Holy".

  76. Submit you site by squoozer · · Score: 1

    I don't know about submitting a site it looks more like a "give us your working email address so we can spam you even more".

    Who in their right mind developes a web application where the form submission is via email.

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  77. It doesn't show _what_? by MikTheUser · · Score: 1

    Using the search engine from inside the US doesn't show any noticeable amount of censorship

    Have you actually tried searching for "democracy in china" on both that accoona thing and google? I'd say that _does_ show censorship.

  78. It sucks by Flamesplash · · Score: 1

    Yea, when I search for my name with quotes it finds my page on the first non ad hit. When I search without it just finds my last name on a bunch of pages. that's .. useful. Google returns my homepage as the #1 hit for both and I don't have to scroll to see it.

    Wake me when this becomes something good.

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  79. A little biased? by CroyDax · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First search result for 'linux' is microsoft.com

    http://accoona.com/search?col=mc&qt=linux

    1. Re:A little biased? by dze · · Score: 2, Informative

      To be fair, that is a "sponsored result" (in admittedly tiny print). The actual results are lousy though. None of their top 10 are in google's top 10 (which seem quite fair to me -- sites like linux.com, linux.org, kernel.org, redhat.com, debian.org etc).

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  80. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by timts · · Score: 1

    those articles are simply from irresponsible reporters, there are too many similar ones say they are better than this or that, without basic knowledge of what it is.

    there have been many "search engine" in china, I just dont think any of them really work that well.

  81. Clinton was just hired to give a launch speech! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The extent of Bill Clinton's involvement is that he was hired to give a speech at the launch. He isn't involved in the day to day running.

  82. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Informative
    And have since threatened to hit Los Angeles with a nuclear warhead if we ever interfere in regards to our ally Taiwan.

    This is not true.

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  83. Another comparison: Tibet by zanderredux · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's funny to see that a generic query on "tibet" instead of the very specific "free tibet" yields differents results.

    Accoona shows a lot of tourist-related information on Tibet and pro-Chinese links on Tibet, that considers Tibet as any another region inside China.

    Google, in the other hand, shows a lot of pages related to the movement to free Tibet from Chinese domination. Note the link to the Tibetan Government in Exile's website, which ranked #3 in Google. Also, note that the #3 match in Accoona (under "sponsored links"), shows the Chinese government's page on Tibet.

    Isn't this undeniable proof that Accoona's filtering works?

    1. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by Khuffie · · Score: 1

      or the two engines just have different methods of indexing? Try googling zelda and then acconaing zelda. They have a very different result set.

    2. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's funny to see that a generic query on "tibet" instead of the very specific "free tibet" yields differents results.

      Not really. If you say the word "Tibet" to somebody, they will think of a geographic region. If you say the phrase "Free Tibet" to somebody, they will think of a specific political issue.

      If a search engine delivers different results for the two searches, then it's almost certainly doing the right thing.

    3. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by un1xl0ser · · Score: 1

      I think about free vacations in tibet.

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    4. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by Mr.Ned · · Score: 1

      At least from this part of the US, an Accoona search turns up quite a few anti-Chinese links for the query 'free tibet'. That is, once you get past the ten or so sponsored results.

    5. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      I think of all the free money I will be getting from my good friend in Tibet.

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    6. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by kamapuaa · · Score: 1
      For a Chinese person, Tibet is a popular tourist destination that has been a part of China for 1300 years or so. It's quite possible that people are interested in an aspect of Tibet besides its brief CIA-supported revolt in the 50's. The recent Chinese movie "Zhou Yu's Train" has a character dilly-dallying about in Tibet as a tourist and teacher, with no reference to the revolution 50 years ago.

      For most Americans, Tibet is merely part of a slogan commonly found on bumper stickers, and they don't really know anything about its history or current situation, and have no reason or interest in viewing related web pages. They seem to think of Tibet as an area where people are constantly in revolt and have nothing else going on in their lives or their region. It would make sense that a search engine aimed at Americans and Chinese would yield different results.

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    7. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by fmobus · · Score: 1

      I think this happens because Chinese Govt. can bias the results (appearing as sponsored link) by heavily sponsoring the system. They are smart.

    8. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by g0_p · · Score: 1

      No. This is only proof that Google Pagerank algorithm tends to favour the anti-chinese sites since they are more linked to on the web. Accoona may not have a page rank algorithm at all to decide which sites to show first. For instance if I put http://www.accoona.com/search?col=mc&qt=Tibetan+go vernment+in+exile as the search query then the exiled government website does appear as the 3rd result listed. Theres no controversy here.. Just different technologies.

    9. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by jeremy_dot · · Score: 1

      My personal favorite was searching for china is evil

      First link: UN is Evil

    10. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by liangzai · · Score: 1

      Why on earth should a search on Tibet yield "free Tibet" pages first-hand? The fine article clearly states that Accona uses a different, AI-based technology, whereas Google primarily ranks by popularity (linked pages) and precise search terms.

      An Accona search on "tibet human rights" gives four sponsored "human rights" links, and therafter the whole enchilada of Tibetan movement pages, for instance http://www.savetibet.org/ (which btw turns up just fine here in Shanghai, another oppressed Chinese city).

      From my humble perspective, the obligatory anti-China bashing that is intermittently going on here on ./ and elsewhere is getting tiresome. Tibet has been Chinese for over a thousand years, and the cultural intertwining goes back even further in time. There are plenty of reasons to press the Chinese government on many issues, but it would be wise to do so in an informed and intelligent way.

      Furthermore, Google is far from prefect. Searching my Chinese name (I'm European, residing in China) on Accona yields results, whereas it doesn't on Google, even if Google has indexed my homepage. Google has a lot more pages indexed, however, which is both good and bad. Google's link popularity "algorithm" is widely abused, and so is the "precise search term" criterion; a gazillion pR0n sites regularly fill pages with nonsensical sentences made up of key words just to get a good search engine ranking. This doesn't happen as easily with AI algorithms.

      I for one welcome another search engine. Google's monpoly must be broken. And of course you can't beat the king using the king's methods, right?

    11. Re:Another comparison: Tibet by Paua+Fritter · · Score: 1
      Google, in the other hand, shows a lot of pages related to the movement to free Tibet from Chinese domination. Note the link to the Tibetan Government in Exile's website, which ranked #3 in Google.

      ... whereas the evil Red Chinese have censored this page on Accoona so thoroughly that it doesn't appear at all! ... oh, until #6

      Also, note that the #3 match in Accoona (under "sponsored links"), shows the Chinese government's page on Tibet.

      ... whereas Google's sponsored links had it at #2.

      The differences between the two search engines are real, but there's no way a sane person who had actually used Accoona would think this is because Accoona is censoring these Tibet-related links. IMHO this goes beyond the anti-Chinese prejudice which is wearyingly common on /. to reach the level of clinical paranoia.

  84. Intelligence by opos · · Score: 1

    Personally I prefer REAL intelligence of Google to the ARTIFICIAL intelligence of the Chinese masters.

  85. Accoona Matata by BasilBibi · · Score: 0

    Free Tibet

  86. The real search results are halfway down the page by tinfoilgrrl · · Score: 1

    So long as they have that list of lame "sponsored links" (searching "mx records" brought up ebay trying to sell me music) above the real results, they're going to fail.

    And somebody forgot to specify a background colour for the front page -- it's a lovely default grey with the logo in a white box on my screen.

  87. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    China is using this to build ICBMs to target the western United States.

    And of course, had this not had happened, China would have never spied on the US or have developed their own ICBM technology. Never. Therefore China doesn't deserve weather satellites, especially under the New World Order of US world imperialism.

    (And have since threatened to hit Los Angeles with a nuclear warhead if we ever interfere in regards to our ally Taiwan.)

    ANy references? What do you mean by interfere, isn't that a vague term?

  88. Better then google my ass by Cocoronixx · · Score: 1

    I like how the first result for a simple search of 'linux' returns a (probably biased) comparison between Linux and Windows, hosted by www.microsoft.com.

    OH, and the link is broken to boot!

    I think I'll keep using google, thanks.

    http://accoona.com/search?charset=utf-8&la=en&co l= mc&qt=linux&accoona+submit=Accoona+Search

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  89. Actually, it is true...but probably not serious by N8F8 · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:Actually, it is true...but probably not serious by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
      Actually, it's not true. Unless you twist words around.

      Do you REALLY think GWB et al would put up with / accept a threat from China to nuke LA? Really? How's the CRACK treating you, dude.

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    2. Re:Actually, it is true...but probably not serious by N8F8 · · Score: 1

      It happended with Clinton was in office.

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  90. I acoonad google by deathcloset · · Score: 1

    the first thing I ever search for in a new engine is "google".

    I think it's a pretty good test of the honesty of the engine.

    try it with this one :/

  91. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by TrollBridge · · Score: 1

    Hey! Aren't you the guy who told me that the Americans were not in Baghdad, and that the brave resistance had repelled the infidels?

    I'm afraid I can no longer consider you a credible source of information.

    --
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  92. nice name.. by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    "Accoona takes its name from the Swahili phrase, "accoona matata," for "no worries," popularized by Disney's film, "The Lion King." "

    you gotta be classy when you associate your companies name with lion kind.

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  93. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This isn't too surprising. Bill Clinton sold China our multi-stage missile technology for satellite launching. China is using this to build ICBMs to target the western United States.

    The claim is perhaps debatable, but after all the accusations about it (I too remember all the hubbub about it years ago), Clinton would have been wise to stear clear of any business dealings related to the Chinese government. It does not "look good". It would be like doing business with Monica's family. Let it be, Bill.

  94. One interesting search by Biffer4810 · · Score: 1

    Compare a google search for "Chinese Human Rights Violations" to the Accoona one.

    For the lazy:

    Google

    Accoona

    Granted, the Accoona one has relavent results... but I would say at the very least, google's results are more appropriate to my search -- at worst one would suggest that "Using the search engine from inside the US doesn't show any noticeable amount of censorship" may in fact be false (although I'm not prepared to say that Accoona is censored).

    Just one interesting search...

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    1. Re:One interesting search by jedZ · · Score: 1

      try searching for Falun Gong.

      Google lists the falundafa.org site as the first entry.

      Accoona lists it somewhere midway down the page.

  95. Riiiight. by gosand · · Score: 3, Informative
    I am sure others will point this out, but...
    Do a search for "linux" on google and on accoona.
    Other searches provided just as useless results.

    Linux on google:

    www.linux.org/
    www.linux.com/
    www.redhat.com/
    www.kernel.org/
    www.debian.org/
    www.linuxjourna l.com/
    www.linux-mandrake.com/
    www.linux-laptop. net/
    www.linuxtoday.com/
    www.gentoo.org/


    Linux on accoona:

    http://software-linux.jovencitas-cachondas.org/
    http://software-for-linux.jovencitas-cachondas.or g /
    http://programas-para-linux.jovencitas-cachonda s.o rg/
    http://linux-software.jovencitas-cachondas.or g/
    http://programas-en-linux.jovencitas-cachondas .org /
    http://linux.ittoolbox.com/
    http://ie.mojolin. com/
    http://zh.mojolin.com/
    http://uk.mojolin.co m/
    http://au.mojolin.com/

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    1. Re:Riiiight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did a search on it for Linux and the first result was microsoft.com !!

    2. Re:Riiiight. by Entropy2016 · · Score: 1

      That's nothing, check this out...

      Google search for "China censorhip" and then compare that to the number of results of an Accoona search for "China censorhip"

      You all know what happened with "litigious bastards".

      Lets make sure the Expurgating bastards get the message.

    3. Re:Riiiight. by coopaq · · Score: 0

      Compare Windows and Linux Servers Windows outperforms Linux: Industry case studies and test lab results provide insight into the advantages of the Microsoft® Windows® platform. Read the independent analysis now. www.microsoft.com

    4. Re:Riiiight. by gravious · · Score: 1

      agreed, i did a search for 'hypereal' 'infinitesimal' and got back just two related entries followed by pages of really bizarre pr0n that from the links looked like pseudo-gibberish non-pr0n (if you know what I mean). Google may be losing its edge but at least its results are in the ballpark.

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    5. Re:Riiiight. by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      As a Spanish speaker, I'll have you all know that "jovencitas cahondas" translates pretty much to "horny girls".
      So, what engine looks better now? Eh? Eh?

  96. So Clinton is a Chinese mole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now it all makes sense.

  97. Pretty sad by harris+s+newman · · Score: 0

    When Slashdot has the article on it 2 days after NPR reports it nationally.

  98. SuperTarget? by razmaspaz · · Score: 1

    From the site

    How to SuperTarget your search

    Is this a copyright infringement on Super Target? And even if it isn't...does anyone else think this is the dumbest name ever? Really, I'm not sure why I would want to "SuperTarget" my search.

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    1. Re:SuperTarget? by nartz · · Score: 1

      SuperWalmarts in China, outsourcing was bound to happen!
      SuperTargets in china, uh oh.

      Stop the Walmart Monopoly, Go K mart!

  99. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the link to google.com I had never heard of that site before :P

  100. Swahili lesson by Ulven · · Score: 1
    "Accoona takes its name from the Swahili phrase, "accoona matata," for "no worries," popularized by Disney's film, "The Lion King."

    The phrase is actually 'hakuna matata', and while it means much the same as no worries, I've never heard 'matata' actually translated as worries. It's more usually problems, or troubles.

    A bit more useless/interesting information:
    Simba, is of course, lion.
    Rafiki is friend.
    In 'The Lion King 2' Scar's son is called Kovu, swahili for scar.
    An anagram of Simba, msiba, translates as disaster/calamity/accident!

    1. Re:Swahili lesson by Ulven · · Score: 1

      Replying to myself, I know, I know...

      In all the above, I forgot the funniest part of the name. Accoona, from hakuna, therefore means 'no' or 'there is not'.

      A strange thing to call a search engine, though it maybe a nod towards its censorship role...

  101. Uhh. by ad0gg · · Score: 3, Informative
    China has had multistage ICMBs since the 70's. Nice try troll.

    China's ICBMs

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    1. Re:Uhh. by Dutchmaan · · Score: 1

      China has had multistage ICMBs since the 70's.

      Ahhhhh, but have they had ICBM's!?

    2. Re:Uhh. by Art+Pollard · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it was their targeting that really had problems. Part of this is due to the complexities of multi-stage rockets. What was transfered to China (through Lorral) was the targeting technology so that austensibly they could place satelites into exact orbits. This same technology is used to target warheads so that theey don't explode in your general vacinity but right on top of you.

    3. Re:Uhh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're talking about nuclear warheads, right? General vicinity is quite frankly more than enough.

    4. Re:Uhh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, no. Because general vicinity could be a 50 mile radius if your targeting system isn't the greatest. Sure, in a major metropolitan area 50 miles off might be ok because you'll still kill some people. But if you are trying to hit a strategic facility out in the countryside then you need to be more accurate.

    5. Re:Uhh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ICMB = Inter Continental Mallistic Bissiles.

      In case you were wondering.

  102. Re:Better than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft is first in the sponsored results. The Accoona results listed below are dominated on the first page by a bunch of variations of:
    http://software-linux.jovencitas-cachondas.org/
    which sells access on a daily or monthly basis to download software such as Norton 2004. This whole thing is sketchy, to say the least.

  103. Spambucket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their site submission form uses an email address of submityoursite@accoona.com to submit a site. Any guesses on how long until this site is deluged by mortgage-enlargement spam? They gotta keep buying all those Treasuries to keep the US economy inflated, after all.

  104. AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of the stupidest line in the Matrix:

    Neo: "AI?"
    Morpheus: "Artificial Intelligence."

    Your average joe might be impressed that the Chinese used "artificial intelligence" in their search engine. Too bad he also thinks AI is the same as computer consciousness.

  105. Open source search engine by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Why not create an open-source-based or wikipedia-like search engine that displays sites blocked by China? That would be a great and embarassing way to draw attention to censorship.

  106. Beats google for sure! by lilmouse · · Score: 1

    Accoona has the mathematical symbol for infinity instead of "oo" - that already makes it bigger than Google, which is only 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0, considerably less than an infinite amount!

    --LWM

  107. Better than Google? by Icephreak1 · · Score: 1

    Better results than Google? You know, I can find an awful lot of pr0n and anti-Chinese propaganda through Google. Doubt they can top that.

    - IP

  108. sigh. communism != totalitarianism by maw · · Score: 4, Insightful
    With all those nasty pro-democracy websites that Google keeps turning up, what's a communist country supposed to do? Well, create their own search engine of course!

    I'm no communist, but I hate seeing the debate muddied like this. Just to be clear, communism shouldn't be conflated with totalitarianism, just as capitalism shouldn't be conflated with liberty. China demonstrates that well; for most of the past half-century it was basically communist and totalitarian; now it is rapidly moving towards capitalism, but the totalitarianism shows few signs of abating, unfortunately.

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  109. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    those articles are simply from irresponsible reporters

    You mean they just make up stuff about being better than Google and using AI? That is rather extreme spin. I didn't know SCO had reporters in China :-)

  110. Re:sigh. communism != totalitarianism by mc6809e · · Score: 1

    China demonstrates that well; for most of the past half-century it was basically communist and totalitarian; now it is rapidly moving towards capitalism, but the totalitarianism shows few signs of abating, unfortunately.

    Looks like they're proving that capitalism, not democracy, is the source of prosperity.

  111. Artificial Intelligence my ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I searched for how to beat the Chinese firewall and it just came up with how to beat slot machines!

  112. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Monkelectric · · Score: 1
    And he's still not half as evil as Bush ... thats what sucks.

    We need to repeal the 22nd ammendment (term limits) so Bush and Clinton can run against each other in 2008. Can you imagine the "nukuler" fallout from the race?

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  113. Not Specifically LA by BSDevil · · Score: 1

    As someone downthread mentioned, the actual quote is In the end you care more about Los Angeles than you do about Taipei. which comes with a very different posture than we'll nuke LA if you help Taiwan. What they're saying is that if we interfer in a mainland attack on Taiwan, they'll send some nukes over our way.

    Would they do it? I'm not sure. What they've done with the policy, however, is akin to what we did with the Soviets during the cold war. They've established standard operating procedure and announced them publicly (our CW one was something to the effect of "if you roll tanks outside of the COMECON or Warsaw Pact, they get nuked"), and have placed the imperitus for security on the US. Strategically, not a bad move.

    Would they loft a few nukes if we interveened in their efforts to retake Taiwan? I think they probably would. If we entered the fray, we would win (thanks mainly to our friend Aegis). This would be quite the affront to several thousand years of Chinese pride, being beaten by this upstart 200-year old state. So in response, they'd win they only way they can - launching on LA and the west coast.

    Could they hit something? I think so. The most recently developed Russian nukes could probably beat our "missle shield" assuming it works, as the warheads are essentially cruise missles (that get delivered on an ICBM). Common knowledge is that they've allready started seling these to the Chinese. I suspect enough of them would get through to make a difference.

    The other thing to remember is that in nuclear war, China considers its population to be much less significant than we do. There's over a billion of them, and their country is bigger - they can deal with 300 million deaths.

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    1. Re:Not Specifically LA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's true that China's government doesn't care much about the lives of its citizens, except when those citizens are killed by people other than Chinese.

      However to say "they can deal with 300 million deaths" is ridiculous. Those deaths would all be in urban centers: Shanghai, Peking, Nanjing, Wuhan. China would be decapitated, its industrial centers vaporized, its transportation systems destroyed, its leaders dead, and its food supplies disrupted. China as a nation would no longer exist; it would become China as a region of farming villages who were lucky enough to be outside the radiation zones.

      It wouldn't end there, however. The clouds of soot thrown into the atmosphere from hydrogen bombs dropped on 3-4 Chinese cities would be sufficient to cause massive climate shifts over the entire world. It might be enough of a tipping point to cause nuclear winter, and then everyone else's goose would be cooked too (or rather, frozen).

      No, the Chinese would only launch a nuclear attack against an American target if they had decided to commit suicide. However they do not plan to overtake the U.S. militarily. They can afford to sit back and let Walmart and the American consumer do the job for them. As Americans buy Chinese products and as American industrial firms transfer more technology to China, they will take over as the world leader in both production and consumption. They are smart, hard working, and have a huge chip on their shoulder from a century of humiliation.

      Nevermind that it was the United States that finally saved China from the Japanese, and nevermind that there are millions of Chinese-Americans living and prospering in the U.S.; it's very much in the Communist regime's interest to portray the U.S. as an enemy. Their news broadcasts and periodicals always report bad news about the U.S. and paint everything the U.S. does in a bad light. Go read the China People's Daily; there's an English version online. In fact it's probably the only thing this crummy search engine is useful for.

  114. Not a new search engine by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 1

    The results are provided by Overture. Just look at the links and compare a few queries.

  115. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clinton doesn't own any "search technologies" nor did he sell any to "China". Hey, I've got an idea - why don't you RTFA for once, and try to stay on topic? If you did, you'll find out that it was one Chinese company selling data to another Chinese company. No "China" (Chinese gov't) involved. Clinton wasn't selling jack shit as far as search technology goes. Only private sectors doing business with each other, inside China. Score: 5 my ass. Enough with your knee-jerking, of-topic, trolling, paranoid, imaginary, schizophrenic, albino, lesbian, monkey, political bull, please.

  116. Pretty Weak by Hategiants · · Score: 1

    Just did a catch all search for "Chinese Government Censorship" A whopping 44000 results showed up with hardly controversial topics. The same search on google revealed 222000 results with some pretty striking headlines.

  117. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by oneself · · Score: 1

    I highly doubt a Comunist Chinese AI program will have a flow-chart from "Bob."

  118. interesting. by Hank+Scorpio · · Score: 1
    Hmm. This is interesting.. Compare searches for "tiananmen square" on the english-language version of accoona.com with their own chinese-language site:

    English Search Results (Scroll down to "ACCOONA RESULTS")

    Chinese Search Results

    First search result on the english page is titled "Fifteenth Anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre." That page doesn't even show up at all in the results on the chinese-language version.

    1. Re:interesting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      following your own posted link the first result in acoona.cn is "World Press Review - Fifteenth Anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre" ?!
      Anybody out there that can make a search *in chinese*. I have this hunch about that been the preferred "search language" in China.

      D.

    2. Re:interesting. by Hank+Scorpio · · Score: 1
      Well that's weird. That result definitely wasn't there when I posted it originally!

      So... that must mean only one of two things! Either their database was being updated, or ... OR ... THEY ARE TRYING TO COVER UP THEIR CONSPIRACY! That must be it!!! Oh no!!!

      :)

  119. That's strange by Isbiten · · Score: 1

    When I search for 'wikipedia' the first result I get has this headline 'Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Bukkake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'

    Alright, looks like some AI that!

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  120. If it indexes your site, it owns your copyright by oexeo · · Score: 1, Troll

    From the terms:

    "By posting messages, uploading files, inputting data, or engaging in any other form of communication through this service, you are granting ACCOONA a royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to:

    Use, copy, sublicense, adapt, transmit, publicly perform or display any such communication. Sublicense to third parties the unrestricted right to exercise any of the foregoing rights granted with respect to the communication.

    The foregoing grants shall include the right to exploit any proprietary rights in such communication, including but not limited to rights under copyright, trademark, service mark or patent laws under any relevant jurisdiction.
    "

    Privacy issues aside, according to this retarded agreement (if it actually holds up), if their server visits, and indexes your website (which would qualify as a form of "communication"), they technically inherit full trademark, copyright, and all other rights to it. Also, I noticed it has /. indexed.

    1. Re:If it indexes your site, it owns your copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course this is ridiculous. This is like going to an art museum and saying you own the copyrights of all the works because you looked at them.

    2. Re:If it indexes your site, it owns your copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why troll? The person who modded this troll clearly didn't read it!

  121. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    That is rather extreme spin. I didn't know SCO had reporters in China :-)

    Strange, 'cause communists have such a track record of sincerity and honesty.

  122. Re:sigh. communism != totalitarianism by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    no communism is inheriently totalitarian. have you read any writings of communist leaders? what happens to people who disagree? in the utopia society suppose someone is born and that person disagrees, what happens to them? they are removed form "utopia". i dont like proof by example, but look at any communist state in the world today how come EVERY SINGLE one of them is totalitarian? can you show me a case whem communism is not?

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  123. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by TomSawyer · · Score: 1
    It does not "look good".

    Yes, we know Slick was very good about keeping up appearances. All the way through the last minute pardons for sale to the stolen silverware.

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  124. Interesting results by Dominic+Burns · · Score: 1

    Comparing the results between google and accoona for 'chinese dictatorship'.

  125. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uhoh.. You really pissed off the anti-bushians now.. hehehe

  126. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.kimsoft.com/korea/ch-war.htm

  127. Dawn of Red Search by eventDriven · · Score: 1

    Well who *is* on Google's side?

    Six hundred million screamin' Chinamen.

    I thought there was a billion screamin' Chinamen.

    There was...

  128. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    especially under the New World Order of US world imperialism.

    You support communist imperialism, don't you?

  129. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm afraid I can no longer consider you a credible source of information.

    And your name is TrollBridge. Ooooh, the irony.

  130. poo searches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well it doesn't do as good as google on a search for "poo". Accoona.com gives the #1 site as something selling Koala Jewelry, while Google.com gives ratemypoo.com and some other nices ones in the top 5. That settles things in my book.

  131. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting how few useful results are returned when searcing for the term "proxy avoidance"

  132. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the comment before you troll. It is a perfectly good comment.

  133. Censorship in China? Who needs some re-education? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It could be an underpowered search index, but searching for fun, socialist superpower-friendly topics, such as "Falun gong" sure doesn't bring up any useful hits.

  134. Artificial Intelligence indeed by redNuht · · Score: 2, Funny

    Search for linux and get microsoft.com as the first result.

    Feeling Lucky?

  135. Strange Search Results by dan_sdot · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Strange Search Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you look for "china government oppression" (w/ quotes) the acoona engine replies:
      "Your query is too restrictive.". Now, *that* is AI ;)

  136. try searching for google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    weird stuff, and then I searched google.com and the closest thing I got was google paraguay, and that was the 3rd result... hmmm....

  137. Unimpressive results for "bill clinton" by ewg · · Score: 1

    I can't say I'm impressed with this search engine offering. I tried the most obvious query I could think of, bill clinton, which yielded a bizarre novelty site as the first result.

    A Google search on the same keywords yields Bill Clinton's official White House biography.

    I'll be waiting for Accoona 2.0.

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  138. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by timts · · Score: 1

    well, I think it's quite clear that china is in the brutal starting phase of capitalism now.

    maybe it's only clear to most chinese people.

  139. Can't resist by gmknobl · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, now China will have the Fox News of search engines.

    Both extremes meet in the middle and do the same..

  140. Clinton library received donations from China?? by kevlar · · Score: 1


    How does this not disturb anyone? The govt of China gave money to an organization solely devoted to promoting the image of a former US President? Something just doesn't seem right here...

  141. best test of bias: Taiwan by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    test it yourself, goto google and search fro taiwan and you get the Republic of China's official page. Search for it in Acoona there is no mention of the Republic of China anywhere.

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    1. Re:best test of bias: Taiwan by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      I dont want to reply to my own post but this is hillarious! search for "Republic of China" in google and the first link is the Taiwan government page. Search for it in Acoona and you get "People's Republic of China" as the first link.

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  142. Re:sigh. communism != totalitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... I think what he means is that THEORETICAL, MARXIST communism isn't totalitarian. The fact that the bolsheviks chose that approach to communism doesn't mean communism = totalitarian.

    -too lazy to type in my nick and PW. screw the karma.

  143. In Communist China..... by AviLazar · · Score: 1

    ....the search engine looks you up.

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    I mod down so you can mod up. Your welcome.
  144. Re:Excerpts from the Guestbook at the Clinton Libr by jarich · · Score: 1
    When I asked why cigars are sold in the gift shop, I was told that these cigars aren't "the smoking kind."

    I'm not gonna touch that one... but I wouldn't smoke it if I were you. ;)

  145. What do you mean not anywhere near GOOGLE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since it's very non-American it does less censoring, is more credible and brings fortune to real people.

    I will be using that one for sure. The search results will improbe btw. Their system has just started learning! If you reset the Google learning data it would yield horrible results as well with just the crawled page information!

  146. Censorship? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For fun I tried a search of "Chinese Torture Tibet" without the quotes and compared it to Google. The difference between Nuns forced into suicide and a dirty joke seems a bit odd to me. Yahoo seemed to have more harsh links as well.

  147. Accoona has horrible, spammy results by mcguyver · · Score: 1

    Accoona's results are full of spammy sites.

    Books should go to Amazon, instead show http://free-adult-comix-books.sexcomix.tv
    Auctions should go to eBay or Y! Auctions, instead show http://auctions.studentcenter.org
    Email should got to Y! Email or hotmail, instead show http://rfc1733.x42.com
    Dating should show match.com or eHarmony, instead shows every subdomain on games-ts.com.

    These are just a few examples to make a point that Accoona is far from showing good results. Accoona did hire the former CEO of Compaq and Clinton himself announced the new search engine today however the engineering part of Accoona is in need of serious improvement.

  148. Mod Parent up... by rsborg · · Score: 1
    How TF did the grandparent post get marked insightful? Reality is that, China has gotten ICBM technology from many countries (including the US), and has had capabilites since at least the 1980s. Grandparent post did not provide link and some paranoid yellow-hating /.'ers just ate it up like all the other anti-clinton/chinese propoganda.

    Slashdot has really gone downhill.

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  149. Better than Google? Not by a long shot. by Greenspan · · Score: 2, Informative
    Ever eager to hop on the next technological bandwagon, upon reading the article, I went to this Accoona.com and tried a few searches. The results shocked me. None of the four items I searched for were even on the first page! (except for AOL and Slate, which were found as a sponsored link). Most of the results were not even close to what I was looking for.

    Here are the first four Accoona searches I did:

    MSN

    SLATE

    AOL

    BAY AREA RIDERS FORUM (this is a very popular bay area-centric motorcycle forum that I regularly visit)

    Compare and contrast this with the results I received from Google:

    MSN

    SLATE

    AOL

    BAY AREA RIDERS FORUM


    Very, very different. After searching with these very common, popular queries, I've come to the conclusion that this new Accoona search engine isn't worth it's weight in salt. Really, it's a great testimony to how good Google really is.

    Of lesser importance, the time it takes to obtain said search results is significantly longer than for Google.

  150. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by killjoe · · Score: 1

    " This isn't too surprising. Bill Clinton sold China our multi-stage missile technology for satellite launching. "

    Bill CLinton sold it? Did you mean to say that a corporation in the military industrial complex sold it after some beurocrat OKed the deal?

    I wasn't aware that Bill Clinton was manufacturing ICBM technology.

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  151. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's good advice. Let your campaign donors' country feel free to spy on you and steal nuclear warhead technology and other tech. so they get something in return. All thanks to Slick Willy.

  152. SuperTarget! by vmcto · · Score: 1

    I tried to SuperTarget my search: chinese suppression violation human rights by checking chinese and violation It didn't seem to make a difference in the results which were totally different than googles...

  153. What about this one? by dan_sdot · · Score: 1

    Google: china government oppression

    Accoona: china government oppression

    hmm.... One result on the main page even mentioning Chinese government oppression in the results. I'll stick to google, thanks.

    1. Re:What about this one? by Cylix · · Score: 2, Funny

      I looked up destroy china....

      The first link was to a spyware cleaner.

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    2. Re:What about this one? by jwsmith00 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I typed in '"human rights" china'. The first result was "Human Rights on Ebay". Apparantly, Ebay sells everything including Human Rights. Perhaps China could get a good deal on it!

  154. It HAS to be said by SOMEONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Communist China, Accoona searches YOU!

  155. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not irony. Someone calling YOU a genius IS irony, however.

  156. only sponsored links above the fold by jiffyjon · · Score: 1

    So non-sponsored links appear below the page fold. Good job.

  157. kim jong il by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i searched for "cock n balls" then clicked the "cock" check box because i find cock to be more important than balls and sure enough accoona matatta the first link is to kim jong il

  158. Yahoo+China+Clinton vs Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    accoona is powered by overture, so really isn't this like a Yahoo co-venture with the a communist superpower endorsed by a former US president and future UN sec. general?

    if thats what it takes to beat google

  159. As a conservative... by Saltine+Cracker · · Score: 1

    I just have to say that the Clinton reference is commpletely appropriate here. Who better for the Chinese to stick on their flagship search engine than Clinton?

    After who sold China dual use missle guidance technology so they can make their nuclear warhead hit their targets? Sure the Chinese needed it for their space program...Riiiight! *wink* *wink*...

    Uhh, Clinton? *ding* *ding*

    Let's see, who was it that gave the North Koreans the technology they needed to kick start their nuclear power program? Sure Kim Jong Il needed it for energy to power his hot tub...Riiight! *wink* *wink*...

    Uhh, Clinton? *ding* *ding*

    Oh, one more, who was it who came up with the great idea of managing terrorism through law enforcement and therefore preventing curcial intelligence information from being used to defend this country by sealing it under a Grand Jury? Hell no wonder the CIA didn't know what it was talking about.

    Uhh, Clinton? *ding* ding* *ding*

    If I were the Chinese, he's the first person I'd pick too. He's done more to weaken the US and put this country in danger than any President I've studied.

    1. Re:As a conservative... by UserGoogol · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Korea, only old people use nuclear power.

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    2. Re:As a conservative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which president completely ignored any intelligence pointing to an upcoming attack?

      Uhh, Clinton??? Nope
      http://www.cnn.com/US/9605/12/terror.plot/
      http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=591

      Uhh, Bush? *ding* ding* *ding*
      http://911digitalarchive.org/

    3. Re:As a conservative... by burns210 · · Score: 1

      Well thank GOD we were smart enough to elect a great man like GW. He has really pulled this nation together ... under a cloud of fear and propaganda ... and made this world a better place ... by breaking century-old precedent and attacking a sovereign national pro-actively. But thats OK, because Iraq was a bigger threat to us than those silly Iranians or North Koreans with their New-Que-Ler bombs. Nucs are overrated, I mean, seriously, the President told a bald-face lie about atomic weapons in Iraq, and no one seems to mind. Thank god, i mean really, thank GOD he is protecting us.

      It may be a small price though, with our booming economy(the boom sound is the echo from the huge ass door to india getting thrown open), we can more than make up for the largest deficit and debt in the nation's history. It isn't all Bush's falt! Clinton only left him with a couple billion in the black, what was he suppose to do? Be a fiscally responsible republican... Hell no, that is just silly to ask of a GOP President with a GOP controlled congress.

      While we are on the subject, how is that outsourcing incentive going for you? Over here it is great. Oregon really got a boost from all those tech jobs suddenly taking a red eye the f!*$ out of here.

      All is well, though. I can't complain. Even with the oil crisis we are in(and out of, and in again) that is entirely unaffected by Iraq and Afghanistan's turmoil... Wait, whatever happen to Afghanistan... WAIT, what the fuck ever happened to Osama? Oh, thats right, Bush said he wasn't worried about him anymore. With all the oil shit going on, it is goo that the President has close financial/business/personal ties with the Royal Saudi family. And hey, if all that mid-east stuff doesn't work, Bush still can go tap the oil in Alaska... nevermind that it only contains, theoretically, about 6 months worth of US oil at the rate we consume. Those big paved roads, oil equipment, pipelines and foot/heavy machinery traffic will have a nice backdrop of a destroyed national forest...

      I ask you, what the hell is the point of a natural forest if not to preserve the natural beauty?

      Thank you

      Yes, I will happily burn in hell. I have karma to wrap myself in.

    4. Re: As a conservative... by metamatic · · Score: 1

      Who favors giving permanent Most Favored Nation status to China?

      who favors admitting China to the WTO?

      Who officially maintains that Taiwan is part of "one China"?

      Who bolsters China's power by relying on them to broker relations with North Korea?

      Could it be George W. Bush? I think it could...

      So I guess you didn't vote for him, huh?

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    5. Re:As a conservative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 1996 incident you point to is interesting, in that the odious practice of 'outsourced torture' was used to interrogate some of the terrorists and uncover the plot.

      According to journalists Marites Vitug and Glenda Gloria, who both wrote the book Under the Crescent Moon, agents hit him with a chair and long piece of wood when Murad didn't talk. They forced water into his mouth, and crushed lighted cigarettes onto his genitals. Murad's ribs were completely cracked. Agents were surprised that he survived. According to an investigator, he finally confessed out of fear of Jews after an agent masqueraded as the Mossad and told him that he was being sent to Israel.

      Murad admitted in his interrogations, "This is my -- the best thing. I enjoy it," and "because the United States is the first country in this world making trouble for our, for Muslims and for our people."


      source

    6. Re:As a conservative... by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 1

      "... by breaking century-old precedent and attacking a sovereign national pro-actively."

      I agree. Today is the anniversary of the day Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. By today's standards as set by the Bush doctrine of preemptive strike it would be seen as completely justified.

    7. Re:As a conservative... by burns210 · · Score: 1

      A good point, and I didn't even realize that.

      Pearl Harbor was exactly what happened with Iraq. Preemptive strike on a sovereign nation that was no immediate threat.

      Good catch.

  160. I for one... by gmletzkojr · · Score: 1

    welcome our new web indexing Red Chinese overlords.

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  161. Hmmm, trouble finding "falun gong"... by frye · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, I can't find any results for the "falun gong" group?!?! Any ideas as to why?
    This is creepy stuff, very Orwellian. If the US is helping China protect its citizens from collecting information freely, how is China hepling the US in return?

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    1. Re:Hmmm, trouble finding "falun gong"... by rayray2030 · · Score: 1

      This is exactly the first search term I entered and it has very different results from google. I sure do hate communism.

  162. Re:Fuck all Eastern shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to see you stand west of the North/South Pole...

  163. That's my job by gengee · · Score: 1

    This is stupid. Why on earth would I want some hunk of metal using "artificial intelligence" to determine which keywords I want to search for? That's my job. I have real intelligence, and I'm perfectly capable of determining which keywords to search for myself. What I'm not capable of is searching through a few billion webpages in under a second. That's its job.

    Also, the name is stupid. They tried a little too hard on that one.

    Also, the search engine sucks. If I search for "Fat Tire Beer", nowhere do I find New Belgium, the manufacturer. This result is first on Google.

    Also, they're evidently afraid of competition. If I search for Accoona on Google, www.accoona.com is the top result. If I search for Google on Accoona, I get a lot of non-printing characters. But no link to Google.

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  164. Accoona: Ads by Overture by Dryth · · Score: 1

    The company seeks to distinguish itself from Google, Yahoo Inc. and growing list of other search engine players by using artificial intelligence to make the results more relevant, said Pfeiffer.

    There's some humor in this statement in that Accoona seems to be using Overture for at least its sponsored results. One example. But then, most modern "competitors" of Google and Yahoo seem to fall back on the technology of one or the other to some degree.

  165. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by kingj02 · · Score: 1

    You've been watching political mudsling ads again, haven't you?

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  166. Obvious Bias by epod · · Score: 1

    Regardless of people's opinions of the government of china, the fact remains that 'Communism' as practised in that nation is in fact Maoism, and does not have overly much in comming with Marxist communism. The fact that people routinely label things as 'Communist = Bad' is somewhat disheartening on a forum where people are expected to be capable of rational thought. Toeing the capitalist party line and just deriding communism because the media told you to makes you no better than someone who mindlessly parrots Maoist dogma in China. You just think your government allows you to have 'free' and 'uncensored' media, while the chinese government is more blatant about it. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, try searching google for 'US Soldier casket pictures'

  167. Leave it to Clinton by mi · · Score: 1

    To sell legitimacy, however tainted it may be.

    --
    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  168. Re:sigh. communism != totalitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, in theory everything works. But the question remains...why is it the communist countries that are totalitarian? Communism has the most blood on it of any 'ism'. It's an ideal, but not one that's really compatible with human nature.

  169. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    General: Try one of these Jamaican cigars, ambassador, they're pretty good. Ambassador de Sadesky:

    Thank you, no. I do not support the work of imperialist stooges.

    General: Oh, only Commie stooges, ay?

  170. Encoded urls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems as most urls in the results are encoded to go through www20.overture.com.. Are they just updating their database to give better search results in the future or are they possibly monitoring what links [chinese] people click?

  171. Re:Another comparison: Tiananmen Square by atomicbirdsong · · Score: 0

    Here are their results on Tiananmen Square -- at least like the tenth link down has something relavent. Needless to say the google results are quite different.

    SPONSORED RESULTS

    Tiananmen Square-$17.36
    Save big on over 250,000 book titles at clearance prices. Find all the latest best sellers priced below Amazon. Overstock.com, your online outlet.
    www.overstock.com

    Tiananmen at Amazon.com
    Buy books at Amazon.com. Low prices and easy shopping. Search the full text of books. Free Super Saver Shipping on qualified orders over $25.
    www.amazon.com

    Square on LAUNCH
    Check out Square. See artist photos, music videos, live interviews and exclusive performances, plus listen to great radio stations, all on LAUNCH - all free.
    launch.yahoo.com

    Research Tiananmen Square at Questia
    Find quality info at the world's online library. 435,000 books, articles. Search or read full text, highlight, cite and auto-create bibliographies and get a personal bookshelf.
    www.questia.com

    ACCOONA RESULTS Results 1 - 11 of 43005

    Andy's Great Wall Star Trek ... After an extended hiatus, I'm working on the site again - I've started uploading Beijing photos, so far just ... Tiananmen Square, will add Forbidden City stuff later. Gaaah, there's still so much to do though - I haven't even started writing up my ...

    http://andys-trek.co.uk/

    Beijing Hotels - Find Beijing Hotels and Reviews Online ... Tian'anmen ... Square ... Hotels located near Tian'anmen ... Square and the Railway Station. ...

    http://beijing.hotelguide.net/

    Condensed China: Chinese History for Beginners
    Condensed China: Chinese History for Beginners. Condensed China offers a lively, quirky, and interesting take on the events, trends, and accomplishments of China's past four thousand years. Starting from the Xia Dynasty, ...

    http://condensedchina.com/

    Beijing Travel, Beijing Tours, Beijing Hotels: China Tour Operator ... Beijing Attractions Great Wall of China, Forbidden City, Summer Palace, ... Tiananmen Square, Hutongs, Ming Tombs, Temple of Heaven ...

    http://www.beijingtrip.com/

    Fotophile.com | for photographers worldwide
    Tiananmen photo icon remains unknown Fifteen years after the world saw him stand ... front of a line of Chinese army tanks during the pro-democracy ... Tiananmen Square demonstrations, the identity and the fate of a lone protester remains in ...

    http://fotophile.com/archives.html

    Beijing Based China Travel Agency - Beijing and All China Tours & Travel ... Tour Beijing Super-Valued Coach Tour Package Beijing Badaling Great Wall Half Day Tour Beijing Summer Palace & Panda Zoo Half Day Tour Beijing ... Tiananmen Square & Forbidden City Half Day Beijing Half or One Day Hutong Tour(Rickshaw) Beijing Two Walking Tours: Traditional & Modern Beijing-Qufu-Taishan Mountain 3-Night ...

    http://www.tour-beijing.com/

    Beijing Hotels - Novotel Xinqiao Hotel, Beijing, China - Asia Travel China Hotels and ... ... To ... Tiananmen Square / Forbidden City (centre of Beijing) ... Just next to the subway which is coveniently connected to the Tian'anmen ... Square, the Forbidden City and other major sites. As are the important government agencies ...

    http://www.asiatravel.com/china/beijing/novotel- xi nqiao/

    Li Peng on Encyclopedia.com ... declared martial law during the ... Tiananmen Square protests (May, 1989), and was ... NEWSMAKER-Li Peng bedeviled by ... Tiananmen, corru

  172. Chinese Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The behavior of the Chinese in creating a search engine that produces politically correct results is par for the course.

    I've focused enough on the government. Let's focus on the Chinese people. Most of them support the actions of their government in censoring information.

    Look at your American universities. The engineering and business classes are overflowing with Chinese folks. Now, look at meetings of Amnesty International. My. My. The Chinese are woefully underrepresented at such meetings. Why? They talk about all sorts of "offensive things" like (1) fighting censorship, (2) freedom of speech, (3) freedom of assembly, etc.

    If you want to know why China failed as a society, shove a mirror in front of a Chinese national. The answer is in the mirror.

  173. the new search engine is powered by .... by Glog · · Score: 1

    ... a cluster of three million Chinese browsing the web in real time and responding to queries!!

  174. No censorship, just really bad results. by leicaM6 · · Score: 1

    Lookup something such as "falun gong" or "falun dafa" and you won't get anything anywhere near what you get on google.

  175. because infinity is larger than a googol... by viva_fourier · · Score: 1

    Does that mean that Algooma's alpha version will be named Algoo+1ma?

    --
    and now back to the fallout shelter...
  176. Wrong dept by the_truk_stop · · Score: 1
    from the if-you-find-it,-they-will-come dept.

    I thought that was supposed to be "if-you-find-it,-they-will-block-it". *ducks*


    Moderate this comment
    Negative: Offtopic Flamebait Troll Redundant
    Positive: Insightful Interesting Informative Funny

    I'm getting an LCD monitor...what about you?

  177. Subjex.com has already been... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    down this road or is going down this road, formed SubjexChina a year or so ago, they/we developed an AI search engine. www.subjex.net which i am ashamed to say I was part of development of. But this AI search engine is not their primary revenue source, it is SubjexCSR (Customer Service Rep).

  178. Hmm by LouCifer · · Score: 0
    --
    Religion is for people afraid of going to hell.
    1. Re:Hmm by LouCifer · · Score: 0

      Also, notice the results when searching both for Slashdot.

      First, the challenger:

      http://accoona.com/search?charset=utf-8&la=en&col= mc&qt=Slashdot

      Next, reigning champion:

      http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie =UTF-8&q=Slashdot.

      On a side note, Accoona shows http://www.mirrordot.org/ which claims to mirror sites when the slash effect takes hold.

      What happens when mirrordot gets slashdotted? Does it mirror itself? Does it then mirror itself mirrorring itself?

      Does it mirror itself mirrorring itself mirrorring itself?

      Someone mod this up, let's all hit it and see if their servers get pwned.

      --
      Religion is for people afraid of going to hell.
  179. Search for "chinese democracy revolution" by dwbassett42 · · Score: 1

    I did a search on these words, and 14 of the first 15 hits were to pages with Guns N Roses lyrics. And after the 15th site? It didn't list any more, even though the top of the page said "Results 11 - 21 of 87173". Going to the next ten showed no links, while the top of the page said "Results 21 - 31 of 87173". This could just be due to server overload or some other slashdot effect, though.

  180. Re:Fuck all Eastern shit... by thebobster · · Score: 3, Funny
    Perhaps you weren't aware of the fact that everywhere is west of somewhere.
    My home's not.

    --Santa Claus
  181. China is not communist by mowler2 · · Score: 1

    China perhaps calls themselves communists (I don't know if they actually do that? Soviet did not afaik), however that does not make china a communist country.

    Please use the term "totalitarian nation/state/country", as that is more appropriate.

  182. I did by Mark+of+THE+CITY · · Score: 1

    http://accoona.com/search?col=wc&qt=Google

    English and Chinese responses, 10 pages worth.

    --
    The clearance system sounds logical. It is not. It is completely arbitrary. -- John Bolton
  183. www.chinksearch.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    excellent.

  184. Did you mean: by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 1

    China is ungood?

  185. URL submission system sucks by adeydas · · Score: 1

    Guess what, when you submit a URL, it is sent by email and not via a mail script or something as used by other search engines... microsoft touch, no doubt... ;)

  186. "Search Engines" are soooo 1990s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google owned the market and Altavista before that. The only way Google can improve at this point is to add a "search within your search results" option. Microsoft used to have this on their knowledge base and it was incredibly helpful. For example, you search for "bash shell", scripts, convert and you get a ton of things you don't care about. In order to fine tune this search, you then have the option to further filter the results. For some mysterious reason Microsoft dropped this feature from their search engine.

  187. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by MCraigW · · Score: 1
    I wasn't aware that Bill Clinton was manufacturing ICBM technology.

    When I was a kid, I sold some of my brother's toys. Strangely enough, I didn't manufacture them.

  188. Re:Oh my god! (slashdotted it) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly doubt a Comunist Chinese AI program will have a flow-chart from "Bob."

    Bah-Ahb?

  189. Re:News -- Clinton and Gore with Bin Laden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except for the fact that Clinton forced Israel to release Mohammed Atta (terrorist from 9/11) under the Oslo agreement. VP Gore also did a number on Col. Ollie North about his (North's) concern about bin Laden. Gore laughed when Col. North said we should be worried about Laden. What a team?

  190. All of your search... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are belong to Accoona (and Bill Clinton)

  191. google on accoona by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Search for 'google' on accoona, won't get www.google.com on the first page

    Search for 'accoona' on google, its the first hit

  192. Make way for by robotoverflow · · Score: 1

    choogle

    --
    % mkdir :
    % ls -dF :
    :/
  193. Tawain Independence? by jiggity · · Score: 1
    Compare search results for "taiwan independence" on google.com and acccoona.com
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    - jiggity
  194. Odd.... by Omniscientist · · Score: 1

    I find it interesting that "screw mao" returns absolutely no results. Must be a bug! ;)

  195. Tried a search... by op51n · · Score: 1

    Not very scientific, but I tried "height mt. robson" in Google and the first result had the height of the mountain in the blurb. Tried it on Accoona and I got a page of Hotels. None of which were even in Canada even. Also it took about 10 times as long to even bring up the WRONG results. Nope. Still not going to stop using Google.

  196. Google's not spotless... by jimmyfergus · · Score: 1
    I would say, stick to Google.
    Yeah, because you can rely on Google not to censor... Unless you do a Google image search for "Abu Ghraib" or "Lyndie England". Nope, no censorship here. Move along now.

    It's about time some competitors to Google started appearing in other countries. Not sure I'd choose China though. Come on Sweden - what can you do for us?

    1. Re:Google's not spotless... by jimmyfergus · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, perhaps I should withdraw my accusation... http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/11/07/2043207.shtml ?tid=217&tid=153&tid=17

    2. Re:Google's not spotless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! You're late in the news, try to keep up, dude! Here's a good hint, don't try to RTFA everytimes, you'll save time, and it only serves as a purporse to feed the trolls.

  197. It depends on what your definition of AI is by AntigonusPiglet · · Score: 1
    According to Accoona's technology page (titled "Accoona and Artificial Intelligence"), their AI system offers three advantages: (1) The ability to find results that don't contain all the query terms; (2) the ability to count some words more than others; (3) the ability to blend results from different sources.

    #1 is called "scored OR" and has been around since the 1960s. In fact, every major web search engine used to use this approach until the web got really big.

    #2 is called term weighting, and has also been around since the 1960s. These days it's generally not exposed to users, but most search engines have this capability under the hood.

    #3 is found in any metasearch engine.

    So how is this AI, exactly?

  198. Accoona is a mess. by frostman · · Score: 1

    I hate to distract from all the discussion about China, but the search engine itself is a mess.

    I tried my standard test keyword, which is obscure enough to not get too many responses but real enough to get a good set (kw is "medienkunst" which is german for "media art" and also one of my domains, medienkunst.com).

    On Accoona I got a bunch of sites, mostly domains I registered at some point, some active and some not. All of them have this "info" button that shows info about "my" company (some true some obvious crap).

    It would appear that they just trolled whois and grouped domains together by who registered them, and then made a bunch of wild-monkeys-flying-out-of-their-asses assumptions about that connection.

    So, if that's their "AI" I don't think G has to worry, Clinton or no Clinton.

    --

    This Like That - fun with words!

  199. Search Accoona for "Google" by Andrevan · · Score: 1

    The top 9 results are all in Chinese... the last result on the top page is Google UK, followed by pages and pages of more Chinese stuff.

    Search Google for "Accoona." It's the top result.

    --
    "All it takes to fly is to hurl yourself at the ground... and miss." - Douglas Adams
  200. Try this out by Potatomasher · · Score: 1

    Search results for "china human rights violation"
    Using Accoona and Google

    Slightly different wouldn't you say ?

    --
    A million monkeys and this is the best sig they could come up with...
  201. The moral high ground by Magickcat · · Score: 1

    "With all those nasty pro-democracy websites that Google keeps turning up, what's a communist country supposed to do? Well, create their own search engine of course!

    Lucky America taking the moral high ground, only in such a consumer paradise could a government buy and sell it's way into office and keep a whole media network paid off.

    I guess you must think that state sanctioned censorship is far worse - compared to America's self censorship for patriotic, propaganda and political reasons. Same result - just different methods.

    Wise up sucker.

    --

    Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses. If you had kept quiet, you would have remained a philosopher.

  202. it sucks: search for 'nvidia' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.nvidia.com is not even on the results page!

  203. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why weren't there charges filed if things were missing.
    Is it because it was not true?
    I've heard everything from missing 'W's on keyboards to grafitti on the walls. But no evidence.
    You think that it is that difficult for a Republican to take a photograph?

    Or you think that Bush's Brain is a liar?
    http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/30_rov e.html

  204. Name that search engine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    choogle with 3D Yao!
    commingle
    chinkgle
    bungle
    GO!gle

  205. Overture frontend by Coward+Anonymous · · Score: 1

    It seems to be a rather poorly implemented frontend for overture. Many of the links are overture links (they try to hide the fact by disabling the status line over those particular links). Also quite interesting is a search for google

  206. "china tiananmen square". by sssmashy · · Score: 1

    Go to accoona.com, and do a search for "china tiananmen square"... and see if the first 50 results or so make any reference to a little incident that happened in 1989. Hmm.

  207. Linux search results in microsoft.com on the top by cowbud · · Score: 1

    It is interesting to see that if a search for linux is inputted in accuna.com microsoft.com (A "sponsored" result) shows up as the first hit. However on google linux.com shows up. Odd....

  208. Censorship by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

    Try doing a search for "Search Engine" =)

  209. Try searching for Accoona using Accoona by BreadMan · · Score: 1

    Here's what it returned as the page description:

    Accoona World Women's Chess Championship Series Accoona French-American Women's Chess ... States is presented with the ... Accoona Championship Trophy by Accoona Corp. Executive Director Jonathan McCann ...

    The above text doesn't appear on the Accoona page and doesn't give any hint you're about to land on a search engine page.

    Looks like Google has fresher data. All The Web does a bit better job too.

  210. Let me get this stright... by blanks · · Score: 1

    So a ex US President, helped launch a Chinese company (communist) create an application that will deny access to people in china to access information on democracy.

    This same company gave an "undisclosed amount (aka large amount)" of money so to open a library (free information) with the name of a ex us president in a democracy.

    sooo.....
    democracy helps communists block free information to communists about democracy
    while the communists are helping democracy supply more free information to democracy
    .

    Am I missing anything here, or is this just silly?

  211. Please mark my post "redundant"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    search for:

    java sun

    And google gets java.sun.com as the first link...

    In Accoona:

    www.sun.com is the closest hit, and this is on the the third page...

  212. The only good Communist.... by GeneralEmergency · · Score: 1


    ...is a firewalled Communist!

    Wait. That's not how that goes.

    --
    "A microprocessor... is a terrible thing to waste." --
    GeneralEmergency
  213. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You tell them! If there's no picture it didn't happen..

    --
    I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that meddling blue dress.

  214. Re:sigh. communism != totalitarianism by wuice · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That's only because they call it "Christianity" instead of "Christianism"

  215. Human rights for sale on eBay. Low prices! by akratic · · Score: 1

    Search for "human rights" on Google, and the first links you get are to Human Rights Watch, the UN, and Amnesty International. The sponsored links are clearly relevant.

    What do you get when you search Accoona for "human rights"? "Human rights on eBay. Find human rights items at low prices." The first non-sponsored link is to holysmoke.org, which doesn't appear to be about human rights.

    I don't know if this is censorship, but it is a crappy search engine.

  216. Bill Clinton and the Chi Comms together again. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't this surprise me?

    LK

    --
    "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
    1. Re:Bill Clinton and the Chi Comms together again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, at least you don't surprise me anymore.

  217. Much better then google (HAH!) by CrashRoX · · Score: 1

    Wow what a real good, AI targeted search engine! Do a search for "books". First un-sponsored result is porn!! This search engine rocks :P

  218. Bought and paid for. by twitter · · Score: 1
    Clinton is so bought. The substantial amount of money that China piled into the DNC to get Clinton elected. They got their money's worth out of him the way you describe. More importantly, Clinton removed the last real US trade barriers against communist countries like China. So, while we might not trade with Cuba, all your job are belong to Commie Party Bosses and slave labor.

    Quoth the bum,

    "I hope you all make lots of money,"

    Thanks Bill. I hope your penis falls off.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:Bought and paid for. by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 1

      "Clinton is so bought."

      They are all bought. It was this action early in his first term that really shed light on the dark corners of politics. He had just spent months actively campaigning against giving trade perks to China (which the GOP really wanted). Then he turns around and gives them most favored trading status without getting anything in terms of improved human rights from them.

      But as much as I didn't like Clinton I'd take him over Bush any day.

  219. not equal search results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is actually great, now we can compare results. After doing a quick comparision on a few keywords I noticed that google is actually more censored.

    I.E. search both sites for keyword "zionist" you see that accoona gives slighty more results that weights against pro-zionist results. While the google results only returned one on the third page.

    I guess google is censoring (or cleaning up) more than they tell. Of course this was known considering the number of junk results you get on certain keywords (not to be mentioned =)

  220. Submit a site - weak by uf22 · · Score: 0

    I just went to the "submit a site" area, because I need all the exposure I can get, and upon submitting the form I get the not-often seen "This form is being submitted using e-mail." message box. Wow, I expect this from a 14 year old working on his first website, not from a search engine.

    --
    Have you ever asked yourself, Is It Normal?.
  221. Re:sigh. communism != totalitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What communist countries? USSR wasn't communist country... it was socialist...

  222. Choogle! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That sounds like a good name for it!

  223. Running tomcat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're running off of tomcat! I got tomcat the standard error page, and netcraft says they're running mod_jk. Are these guys serious?????

    1. Re:Running tomcat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should upgrade to php

  224. George W Bush by Xaipete · · Score: 1

    The first non-sponsored result to come up with a search for "George W Bush" is a giant picture of a mushroom cloud. Interesting. The second hit is for a set of playing cards mocking the president. And the fourth is for "Bush Country Ketchup: The Official Ketchup of Right-Leaning Americans." Dick Cheney does little better.

  225. Guess what my first search was? by frosty000 · · Score: 1

    Also, hello everyone.

  226. Re:sigh. communism != totalitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  227. What AI? by Phil246 · · Score: 1
    Task : Search for documentation from the source about ArrayLists in Java.

    sounds easy enough yes?
    Well.

    Accoona Result : Here
    Google Result : Here

    Not only is google the more accurate at what i wanted, it also returns the most results, and faster. I dont know about any of you guys but im hardly impressed with accoona

  228. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    Yes ... and no doubt we'd all feel their pain.

    --
    The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
  229. Search for linux get link to microsoft by darcon · · Score: 1

    Searched for "linux" and first result I get is (sponsered result no less)

    Compare Windows and Linux Servers
    Windows outperforms Linux: Industry case studies and test lab results provide insight
    into the advantages of the Microsoft® Windows® platform. Read the independent analysis now.
    www.microsoft.com

    nuff said

  230. Does it say... by trawg · · Score: 1

    ... I'm sorry Dave, I cannot let you search for that.

  231. search for "china" by nazsco · · Score: 1

    http://accoona.com/search?col=mc&qt=china

    the first result: "China Replacements at Replacements.com"

  232. Re:Sold China our Missile Technology why not Searc by killjoe · · Score: 1

    Once again.

    Did Bill Clinton himself sell this technology? It's a simple yes or no question.

    --
    evil is as evil does
  233. What happens in capatalism? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    Check the american history and how it treats its own citizens who had different politcal ideas. But they that is alright because everyone who is not a capatalist is an enemy right? America is for free people and free people only choose capatalism otherwise they are not free. Nice dogma mate.

    --

    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  234. Accoona by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tried the accoona.com search on "Linux", many hits then when closing down the Firefox browser there was another Window behind it with a link to some weird web page, I didn't go there. But why didn't Firefox popup blocker block the "behind window"?

  235. Try searching for "Google" by xYoni69x · · Score: 1

    Try searching for "Google". Amusing.

    --
    void*x=(*((void*(*)())&(x=(void*)0xfdeb58)))();
  236. Re:Fuck all Eastern shit... by ignavus · · Score: 1

    OK. Now we know where "everywhere" is, and "somewhere".

    But what about "nowhere" and "anywhere" - are they north and south? Or what? I don't get it.

    --
    I am anarch of all I survey.
  237. Let's Compare by camooT · · Score: 0
    A search for (first result):

    1. Slashdot, turned out MirrorDot
    2. Wikipedia, turned out Wikipedia discussion on deleting its Bukkake article.
    3. Google News, turned out Google News Canada (I'm not kidding).
    4. Tiananmen Square Massacre, turned out a bizzare article on the BCC only faintly alluding to it.
    5. China Blocks Google News, turned out a news article titled "Google Expands..." (irrelevant)

    and last, but not least:

    6. Chinese girls in the nude turned out "naked-old-lady.com" (NSFW).

  238. Re:Fuck all Eastern shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure it is, just west to that block of ice next door.

  239. can you imagine a beow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can you imagine a beow...

    Nope, not gonna do it.

  240. Hilariously bad by Sinner · · Score: 1
    Top result for a search on "Wikipedia":

    Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Bukkake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You couldn't make it up.

    --
    fish and pipes
  241. deceptive links. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    many, many of the results produced by this search engine really link to overture.com and (i guess) redirect to the actual result site (after logging, of course).

    this is, of course, extremely bad.

  242. Results are from Inktomi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The results are coming from (or at least the spidering was done by) Inktomi. At least you know where to put the blame...

  243. ChiCom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, search for 'Chicom' on Google vs this new chicom search engine. The results are a bit different.

  244. I searched for COMMUNIST and got AMERICA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously!

  245. Customers need choice by Phoe6 · · Score: 1

    Search for Democrary: Acooona vs Google

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    Senthil
  246. Try "Free Tibet" by Darth23 · · Score: 1
    The first pick is 'Free Tibet on ebay'.

    I never realized it was so powerful.

    http://www.freetibet.org/ is actually in the top five.

    So what happens in people click 'unwanted' links to the top positions?

    --

    -------- In Soviet Russia, "Soviet Russia" sigs hate Slashdot.