It doesn't matter, electronic voting without a paper trail is inherently unsafe.
How does the paper trail help, unless you take the receipt with you (which does not happen with the traditional voting either)?
You vote, the machine prints the receipt, and you put it into the box? If you don't trust the people manning the machine, why would you trust the sanctity of the box with paper ballots?
Perhaps, you suspect, they are clueless and the machines arrive pre-rigged. That is possible, but unlikely, for the authorities inspecting them (although different in different states) are typically not partisan.
I would prefer a paper copy, and am myself voting on paper (through an absentee ballot), but the "paper trail" would not quash the allegations of rigging. We had that even before the electronic voting.
Only in countries where the populace still has some balls. The Ukraine is a current example.
I've heard your kind on other forums, but only now can lash out properly.
America's voting problems to Ukraine's are like America's "poverty" to Ukraine's. They are incomparable.
In Ukraine, all of the Western observers reported wide-spread irregularities. In Ukraine a foreign power (Russia) meddled on the side of government's candidate for months.
The fraud in Ukraine is obvious even in the official numbers. And not like that in that one Ohio county, where the machine reported the total number of voters several times that of the registered (something no fraudster would've done). In Donetsk and around the official voter turnout was over 97% (itself impossible in practice), while the (absolute) number voting for the opposition has, for some reason, gone down since the first round, when the turnout was below 80%.
There is no evidence of substantial fraud in America's voting, however painful the feeling of defeat may be to the Democrats (themselves known fraudsters in the past, BTW). Your champion conceded. This article -- and even the Slashdot write-up -- make a point, that the programmer in question makes no accusations.
In Ukraine the evidence is abundant, and that is why people are on the streets there for two weeks.
Not everybody voted for Yuschenko, but nobody likes to be lied to.
Don't get too excited for him, though. Although called a "Liberal" by the media, his liberalism is of entirely different sort from what Kerry, your (it is self to presume) self, and the rest of the Democrats stand for. The guy is for individual (rather than collective) responsibility and liberty, free markets, and diminished role of the State. I'll throw you a bone, though. Yuschenko wants Ukrainian troops to get out of Iraq, unfortunately...
As many, I am forced to consider the compatibility of my documents with Microsoft's Word.
Already a KDE user, I'd rather use KWord than install the whole GTK stack for this application. But KWord does not save in MSWord's format and the RTF it creates is wanting -- certainly so with respect to page headers/footers.
Curiously, AbiWord does not save in MSWord's format either. Oh, it pretends to so, and the file is named.doc, but if you compare it to the.rtf version, you'll discover, that the file name extension is the only difference.
Which is just fine, because MS Word seems happy with such files, whereas opening an.rtf file on Windows is "difficult" to certain "lusers", because MS Word does not register itself as the "opener" of such files. I don't know neither why, nor when did it stop doing so...
A feature I can't (yet?) find in AbiWord is creating custom fields (variables) that are automatically updated throughout the document, whenever changed in one place. I can easily refer to various data thought about by the software authors (document's title, page number, current date, &c), but can't find, how to create my own such fields. Can someone help? Maybe, this new 2.2 version will have it?
Automobiles had various "I'm being stolen" devices for years. From overt obnoxious sirens, that wake up the neighborhoods in the middle of the night to covert "Lo-Jack" and others. Does not help as much as was, I bet, expected.
starting a war against iraq with the usa wouldn't be profitable either because usa would claim the whole profit.
How would US claim "the whole profit" from Russia's defense contractors? This is the second time I ask, BTW.
You postulated with your "dude, follow the money", that wars are profitable to the said contractors, from which you conclude, that wars are caused by the same. The example of Russia demonstrates your theory is not self-consistent, hence it is wrong. Enough...
Well, you are making a good case for it being in the rich's better interest to treat the poor. This may be convincing. The simple minded "if the poor can not afford it, we don't need it" is not convincing at all.
As for "distinguishing class", the price of the medications makes the distinction, for better or worse. Those truly concerned with the fate of the poor (rather than with the inequality), should and do comfort themselves with the knowledge, that almost all improvements of life -- including literacy, hot water, TV, personal cars -- were only available to the rich at first.
there was no profit for the rest of the world in an Iraqi war, mainly because USA has grabbed all the profit by itself.
How? All armies in there use their own weapons and equipment (except, may be, for Salvador), thus enriching their defense contractors. Russia could've done the same, but did not. Why?
Because Iraq is "an ally"? Maybe, but this would allow for considerations other than profit, which runs counter to your original "dude, follow the money" argument. Oops...
the war in Chechnya goes on for the exactly reason i have stated.
Well, if you say so, than yes, of course.
but all this i have written already. just read more carefully next time.
Alaska too will be ready to reap for the benefit of USA while the rest of the world goes on declining stocks/rising prices
Is this bad too somehow?
There are plenty other countries without oil that need liberating, but USA dont give a crap because there is NO MONEY IN IT.
This "war for oil" bullshit has been demonstrated as such so many times, it is tiring. Simply lifting the embargo would've been much simpler and easier.
"If it works, don't mess with it". We did not care for Saddam's abuses within Iraq, until he tried to take them without -- in 1991, when "it stopped working". This -- attacking neighbors (our other allies, BTW) was the reason for the first war. 11 years after that one, Saddan still did not make good on most of his promises and had to be taken out completely. We waited too long, because we had the wrong kind of president before.
Now that we found ourselves in need of reconstructing Iraq's government from scratch, we picked Democracy, of course, because that is what we know and like.
most of bombing usa does happen for the pretty same reason.
the war in chechnya is still ongoing for an alike reason
By your logic, the whole world should've jumped onto the opportunity to participate in the Iraq war. You may harbor dillusions about exceptional decency of France or Germany, but why does not Russia participate in Iraq if its defence contractors are so powerful, as to keep it involved in (Muslim) Chechnya for 10 years already? Oops...
The war in Chechnya goes on for the simple reason -- Russia can not afford to let the little country escape its domination, because the rest of the little nations coerced into Russian Federation may soon follow.
Compared to that, the profits or loss thereof of Russian defense contractors and/or drug dealers is miniscule.
Blaming the "big business" or the "industrial complex" for wars is like blaming advertisers for spending. You make major purchases because you need them, not because the advertisers force you to. They do affect your mind (our Toyota is better than their Honda), but they don't make it up (you decide, you need a new car).
I did not say, it is hard, I said, it is tedious. Like filling out a form. With TCL's forms taking one page and Python's -- a few.
And I tried both of them (and Perl too). TCL remains my favorite. Simple things are simple, hard things are possible (Perl's motto, actually).
No, I'm not using SWIG or anything like that -- I was never quite satisfied with the automatically generated extensions. They rarely fit the style and philosophy of the language being extended and the generated code is hardly meant to be maintained.
I do not see "Extensions API" anywhere on the list of improvements. Last I tried, creating one's own object type or even a simple command was a rather tedious task, unlike in TCL...
If you're rich you must have worked hard and spent your money wisely
You seem to disagree with this statement, but the percentage of first-generation millionaires in US is very high. According to the book "The Millionaire Next Door", by former professor of business at Georgia State:
There are 3.5 million millionaires in the U.S. The average millionaire:
is a 57-year-old married man with 3 children.
is self-employed in a practical business such as farming, pest control or paving contracting.
works between 45 and 55 hours a week.
has a median household annual income of $131,000.
has an average net household net worth of $3.7 million.
owns a home valued at about $320,000.
is first generation affluent.
drives an older model automobile and buys rather than leases.
attended public schools but is likely to send his children to private schools.
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Perhaps. But the point stands -- there is no credible evidence of substantial election fraud in America. But there is plenty of it in Ukraine.
BTW, the name of a country is written without the "the"...
How does the paper trail help, unless you take the receipt with you (which does not happen with the traditional voting either)?
You vote, the machine prints the receipt, and you put it into the box? If you don't trust the people manning the machine, why would you trust the sanctity of the box with paper ballots?
Perhaps, you suspect, they are clueless and the machines arrive pre-rigged. That is possible, but unlikely, for the authorities inspecting them (although different in different states) are typically not partisan.
I would prefer a paper copy, and am myself voting on paper (through an absentee ballot), but the "paper trail" would not quash the allegations of rigging. We had that even before the electronic voting.
America's voting problems to Ukraine's are like America's "poverty" to Ukraine's. They are incomparable.
In Ukraine, all of the Western observers reported wide-spread irregularities. In Ukraine a foreign power (Russia) meddled on the side of government's candidate for months.
The fraud in Ukraine is obvious even in the official numbers. And not like that in that one Ohio county, where the machine reported the total number of voters several times that of the registered (something no fraudster would've done). In Donetsk and around the official voter turnout was over 97% (itself impossible in practice), while the (absolute) number voting for the opposition has, for some reason, gone down since the first round, when the turnout was below 80%.
There is no evidence of substantial fraud in America's voting, however painful the feeling of defeat may be to the Democrats (themselves known fraudsters in the past, BTW). Your champion conceded. This article -- and even the Slashdot write-up -- make a point, that the programmer in question makes no accusations.
In Ukraine the evidence is abundant, and that is why people are on the streets there for two weeks.
Not everybody voted for Yuschenko, but nobody likes to be lied to.
Don't get too excited for him, though. Although called a "Liberal" by the media, his liberalism is of entirely different sort from what Kerry, your (it is self to presume) self, and the rest of the Democrats stand for. The guy is for individual (rather than collective) responsibility and liberty, free markets, and diminished role of the State. I'll throw you a bone, though. Yuschenko wants Ukrainian troops to get out of Iraq, unfortunately...
It is rather simple with automated remote backups.
Thanks for the pointer! I just added this bug some votes.
On a fresh new installation you only have to enter the URL (preferably https), and the username/password to get it...
There is even an Apache mod complete with FreeBSD ports thereof.
Already a KDE user, I'd rather use KWord than install the whole GTK stack for this application. But KWord does not save in MSWord's format and the RTF it creates is wanting -- certainly so with respect to page headers/footers.
Curiously, AbiWord does not save in MSWord's format either. Oh, it pretends to so, and the file is named .doc, but if you compare it to the .rtf version, you'll discover, that the file name extension is the only difference.
Which is just fine, because MS Word seems happy with such files, whereas opening an .rtf file on Windows is "difficult" to certain "lusers", because MS Word does not register itself as the "opener" of such files. I don't know neither why, nor when did it stop doing so...
A feature I can't (yet?) find in AbiWord is creating custom fields (variables) that are automatically updated throughout the document, whenever changed in one place. I can easily refer to various data thought about by the software authors (document's title, page number, current date, &c), but can't find, how to create my own such fields. Can someone help? Maybe, this new 2.2 version will have it?
Or does it?
How would US claim "the whole profit" from Russia's defense contractors? This is the second time I ask, BTW.
You postulated with your "dude, follow the money", that wars are profitable to the said contractors, from which you conclude, that wars are caused by the same. The example of Russia demonstrates your theory is not self-consistent, hence it is wrong. Enough...
As for "distinguishing class", the price of the medications makes the distinction, for better or worse. Those truly concerned with the fate of the poor (rather than with the inequality), should and do comfort themselves with the knowledge, that almost all improvements of life -- including literacy, hot water, TV, personal cars -- were only available to the rich at first.
How? All armies in there use their own weapons and equipment (except, may be, for Salvador), thus enriching their defense contractors. Russia could've done the same, but did not. Why?
Because Iraq is "an ally"? Maybe, but this would allow for considerations other than profit, which runs counter to your original "dude, follow the money" argument. Oops...
Well, if you say so, than yes, of course.
Thanks, but I'll skip your weekly newsletter.
Because humans were never really monogamous... It is not a "lost cause", but an Ideal -- worth aiming for, but unreachable.
While aiming and notreaching, treating the diseases is a good thing. Same applies to syphilis, BTW, and other "ailments of sin".
I don't think, we should be bending over backwards for the "poor", but I'm glad, people, who are able to pay for these treatments, can do that.
"If it works, don't mess with it". We did not care for Saddam's abuses within Iraq, until he tried to take them without -- in 1991, when "it stopped working". This -- attacking neighbors (our other allies, BTW) was the reason for the first war. 11 years after that one, Saddan still did not make good on most of his promises and had to be taken out completely. We waited too long, because we had the wrong kind of president before.
Now that we found ourselves in need of reconstructing Iraq's government from scratch, we picked Democracy, of course, because that is what we know and like.
Then, again, your first word was "dude"...
By your logic, the whole world should've jumped onto the opportunity to participate in the Iraq war. You may harbor dillusions about exceptional decency of France or Germany, but why does not Russia participate in Iraq if its defence contractors are so powerful, as to keep it involved in (Muslim) Chechnya for 10 years already? Oops...
The war in Chechnya goes on for the simple reason -- Russia can not afford to let the little country escape its domination, because the rest of the little nations coerced into Russian Federation may soon follow.
Compared to that, the profits or loss thereof of Russian defense contractors and/or drug dealers is miniscule.
Blaming the "big business" or the "industrial complex" for wars is like blaming advertisers for spending. You make major purchases because you need them, not because the advertisers force you to. They do affect your mind (our Toyota is better than their Honda), but they don't make it up (you decide, you need a new car).
What? The services are available to foreigners too?..
And I tried both of them (and Perl too). TCL remains my favorite. Simple things are simple, hard things are possible (Perl's motto, actually).
No, I'm not using SWIG or anything like that -- I was never quite satisfied with the automatically generated extensions. They rarely fit the style and philosophy of the language being extended and the generated code is hardly meant to be maintained.
No, you just need to post links: http://www.lx-office.org/ :-) Thanks.
I do not see "Extensions API" anywhere on the list of improvements. Last I tried, creating one's own object type or even a simple command was a rather tedious task, unlike in TCL...
Domain 'lxoffice.org' does not exist. lxoffice.com points to a Chinese site without a word in English nor German (beyond the stupid "Enter")...
Does not pay? Sometimes it does, actually. Like when it helps you get a better job, or a better pay...
You seem to disagree with this statement, but the percentage of first-generation millionaires in US is very high. According to the book "The Millionaire Next Door", by former professor of business at Georgia State:
Industry and frugality, people... However boring.
When printing anti-Government pamphlets, be sure to use a black-and-white printer...
Ok, how about posters with Calvin Klein male models wearing nothing but unmentionables and the text: "The only hardware, that should be proprietory."
No? Ah, well, just a thought...
Are we rapping against the People's War for Liberation?