The robber withdraws the cash directly from your account faster than you can speak to a customer rep at the bank and the bank says "well that's too bad for you"
$500 per day is the limit my bank places on all debit cards...
What you're saying is the equivalent of saying there's nothing wrong with cocking a gun and pointing it at somebody's head. It's only pulling the trigger that's bad.
No, what I'm saying is that there nothing wrong with being made of steel, even if that makes a metal shovel "closer" to a people-killing gun, than a plastic or a (dure-)aluminum shovel is.
You know, I have mod points, and could just mod you down, but I thought I'd reply instead.
Awfully decent of you. If only you had the decency to not mention this fact...
but when those are the only countries that are more fascist than you... it's a pretty bad sign.
Right here is the flaw in your and Garcia's arguments. As per your definitions and explanations, there is nothing automaticly "pretty bad" about Fascism -- not without burning the inferior races in furnaces.
Yours, Garcia's (although he may deny it), and others' whole point of "name dropping" Fascism is to associate the opponents with the burning furnaces and other trully horrible sides of the (German) Fascism because they poses some treads of Fascism, however innocent those treads might be. This is the dishonesty I complained about. Boy, imagine, his name being Adolf! The guy would not even be elected...
It is Ok to have a powerfull leader (many countries have that), and it is Ok to be proud of your country -- almost everybody is.
And if that is not enough, of the two points, on which you claim USA is Fascist both are wrong:
a very powerful leader -- I think unilaterally declaring US citizens to be enemy combattants qualifies here
you ignore the Supreme Court's recent ruling, that clamped that exact power
extreme pride in country and race -- substitute religion for race, and this clearly describes a lot of Bush's supporters
ha! if you allow "substitutions", why not just substitute "Republicans" for "Nazis" and be done with it?
This is a perfectly valid point in itself. However, the poster, who provoked me -- most certainly -- meant the German version of Fascism. The Italian one just was not ugly enough, so there is no point in using it.
Although I realize, I made the mistake of thinking this was the same person, that used the term "corperate Gestapo" in another posting on the same thread, I'm quite certain of Garcia's point.
Nope, it is not. Godwin's Law applies. Second time in one thread. Remember to logout, loser.
We are allowing our country to be opened to the control of the corporations.
Until we (US) start claiming racial superiority and burning racially inferior peoples in furnaces, all the talk of our alleged "Fascism" is complete nonsense.
Shows what lengths some people will go to to avoid exposure to opposing opinions.
In Taxachusetts, he is being exposed to the opposing opinion every time he pays his taxes, renovates his premises, or hires/fires an employee. Small business owners hate Democrats -- and for a good reason.
Not many will try to make a point of it, like this guy, and forgo the possible profits, but that's another story.
The FreeBSDport restored the GIF-reading back in August 2001. It was trivial.
These "legions of geeks and developers" are just whiners -- the source was always there. If you needed it, you could do it -- the whole point of the open source, right?
Why the hell should we spend a fortune on the military to protect ourselves if we can't even protect ourselves from illness?
We do spend on health care and we do protect ourselves from illness. But we don't channel this money through the government to be "redistributed" back to us. And that is how I like it -- whatever the government does, it does poorly. Some things simply can not be done outside the government (kernel if you know operating systems) -- like armed forces. "For everything else, there is" free market (user-space). Most (all?) ills you can point at in the current sub-free market's health care are attributable to the government's meddling -- done at the insistence of the demos like you, mostly...
An "average homeless" may not care about al Qaeda, but I, frankly, don't care about this faceless average homeless. It continues to puzzle me greatly, how can anyone continue to have any sympathy for the people, who -- despite being born and raised in this country -- stay in the gutter, while others -- including the truly poor fresh immigrants -- manage to acquire substantial wealth through industry and frugality.
And if you do feel sympathy for the "average homeless" -- fine, great. Just don't force me to pay for his food, shelter, healthcare.
Plenty of people do not have wealth yet manage to educate themselves, manage to have more freedom than you do, and some of them live in the USA (people like me.)
Only because the rest of the society is wealthy enough.
Sorry, your "I have to work, therefore I'm not free" argument has been beaten to death in many other discussions over the decades -- I don't have patience to spend the weekend arguing with a spoiled American, who values not the greatness of his/her own country nor the wealth of opportunities it presents him.
Socialism is required because some people don't want to live just to make money and people like us should have a right to live in that way
No law nor government is stopping you now from working less... Whereas with socialism, I will be obligated (by tax code) to pay for your healthcare, because you chose to work less.
So, your argument for socialism is the legality of marijuana and "free" healthcare?
Marijuana is only legal is Holland -- and with plenty of strings attached. The healthcare is never free, the money is taken from taxes -- the work, which can pay for its own healthcare, is being taxed to console the idleness -- you end up with less work and more idleness -- inevitably. This is exactly the opposite of how I like it, and this is why I live here now.
If you run an important business and you have a lot of pull,then you matter and you can help design laws.
And I think, this is a great feature of this country's political system (others have it too, BTW). This is not "plutocracy" -- plutocracy implies illegality.
This is our problem, we rank capitalism higher than human life, we rank it higher than education, freedom, everything.
Because without wealth, there is no |"education, freedom, everything" -- not for long, anyway.
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We have a republic/plutocracy.
Sorry, I disagree with the "plutocracy" part. Republic is the best system currently known to me, where the ills of "straight" Democracy and monarchy (strong executive) are mitigated by the rule of law and the general "checks and balances".
The only way you can control this government is with money, not votes.
The same is said just as often about your favorite socialistic heavens of Canada and Europe.
If you are against public schools, free healthcare, and other free stuff, you are insane or you are a psychopath.
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Would you prefer to be ruled by some communist psychopaths or some capitalist psychopaths?
Neither system is necessarily psychopathic. In a capitalistic democracy, however, changing the government is entirely possible. Capitalistic democracies also tend to exist because people prefer them, while communist regimes have to rely on constant indoctrination and suppression.
Socialism is the key, without it capitalism is no better than communism.
I escaped socialism, which I was born into. Before I see it imposed on me again, I'll fight it -- including, if need be, hanging its advocates on lamp posts, where they belong.
And before you start on the "but the rest of civilized world is socialistic" road, here is a quote for you:
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
Stalin killed ~27 MILLION people, 4.5 times the amount Hitler killed and we don't have a/. axiom about him yet.
It is a bloody shame we don't. While swastikas are frowned upon and "nazi" a dirty word, the term "Soviet Russia" produces only a smirk, Che Guevara T-shirts are considered sexy, and the horrible Hammer-and-Sickle emblem is used for Vodka commercials (just imagine Swastika used to advertise Riesling)...
You mean, the true citizens, like the guys who bombed Oklahoma's federal building with a truck bomb, would never hijack a plane? Many of those responsible for Madrid's bombing in March were Spain's citizens too...
Please. This is a slippery slope -- foreigners already are photographed and forced to submit fingerprints on entering US. There is no security reason not to impose the same upon citizens -- only the political one -- the voting public's opposition.
stories about RBLs that add people, but never remove them.
My State KEeping Milter maintains temporary blocks and automaticly removes even the "permanent" bans, which are not triggered for a specified period of time....
Is the magnetic field flopping not caused by the wide-spread of gas-guzzling SUVs, Oil Wars, presidency stealing, and censorship? What? No? Not even by the Israeli land-stealing? Oh, well...
Neither Bush nor Ashcroft invented FCC nor gave it censorship rights.
If you were content with FCC's power to censor, what it considers indecent, during Clinton's 8 years, you should be quiet now -- unless, of course, you feel, that the definition of "indecency" changed dramaticly.
I don't have that feeling, and I don't see, how a reasonable person can either.
$500 per day is the limit my bank places on all debit cards...
No, what I'm saying is that there nothing wrong with being made of steel, even if that makes a metal shovel "closer" to a people-killing gun, than a plastic or a (dure-)aluminum shovel is.
What about being sprayed? Taking 10-20 bullets in rapid succession may, actually, knock you off balance...
Awfully decent of you. If only you had the decency to not mention this fact...
Right here is the flaw in your and Garcia's arguments. As per your definitions and explanations, there is nothing automaticly "pretty bad" about Fascism -- not without burning the inferior races in furnaces.
Yours, Garcia's (although he may deny it), and others' whole point of "name dropping" Fascism is to associate the opponents with the burning furnaces and other trully horrible sides of the (German) Fascism because they poses some treads of Fascism, however innocent those treads might be. This is the dishonesty I complained about. Boy, imagine, his name being Adolf! The guy would not even be elected...
It is Ok to have a powerfull leader (many countries have that), and it is Ok to be proud of your country -- almost everybody is.
And if that is not enough, of the two points, on which you claim USA is Fascist both are wrong:
a very powerful leader -- I think unilaterally declaring US citizens to be enemy combattants qualifies here you ignore the Supreme Court's recent ruling, that clamped that exact power extreme pride in country and race -- substitute religion for race, and this clearly describes a lot of Bush's supporters ha! if you allow "substitutions", why not just substitute "Republicans" for "Nazis" and be done with it?Most certainly, however, Mr. (?) Garcia used the term Fascism as a "dirty word".
You know it, I know it, he knows it. Put away the dictionary...
Although I realize, I made the mistake of thinking this was the same person, that used the term "corperate Gestapo" in another posting on the same thread, I'm quite certain of Garcia's point.
Nope, it is not. Godwin's Law applies. Second time in one thread. Remember to logout, loser.
Until we (US) start claiming racial superiority and burning racially inferior peoples in furnaces, all the talk of our alleged "Fascism" is complete nonsense.
Khmmm...
In Taxachusetts, he is being exposed to the opposing opinion every time he pays his taxes, renovates his premises, or hires/fires an employee. Small business owners hate Democrats -- and for a good reason.
Not many will try to make a point of it, like this guy, and forgo the possible profits, but that's another story.
These "legions of geeks and developers" are just whiners -- the source was always there. If you needed it, you could do it -- the whole point of the open source, right?
95% of them used Internet Explorer and Outlook, I'm sure...
We do spend on health care and we do protect ourselves from illness. But we don't channel this money through the government to be "redistributed" back to us. And that is how I like it -- whatever the government does, it does poorly. Some things simply can not be done outside the government (kernel if you know operating systems) -- like armed forces. "For everything else, there is" free market (user-space). Most (all?) ills you can point at in the current sub-free market's health care are attributable to the government's meddling -- done at the insistence of the demos like you, mostly...
An "average homeless" may not care about al Qaeda, but I, frankly, don't care about this faceless average homeless. It continues to puzzle me greatly, how can anyone continue to have any sympathy for the people, who -- despite being born and raised in this country -- stay in the gutter, while others -- including the truly poor fresh immigrants -- manage to acquire substantial wealth through industry and frugality.
And if you do feel sympathy for the "average homeless" -- fine, great. Just don't force me to pay for his food, shelter, healthcare.
Only because the rest of the society is wealthy enough.
Sorry, your "I have to work, therefore I'm not free" argument has been beaten to death in many other discussions over the decades -- I don't have patience to spend the weekend arguing with a spoiled American, who values not the greatness of his/her own country nor the wealth of opportunities it presents him.
No law nor government is stopping you now from working less... Whereas with socialism, I will be obligated (by tax code) to pay for your healthcare, because you chose to work less.
What lamp-post would you prefer?
Marijuana is only legal is Holland -- and with plenty of strings attached. The healthcare is never free, the money is taken from taxes -- the work, which can pay for its own healthcare, is being taxed to console the idleness -- you end up with less work and more idleness -- inevitably. This is exactly the opposite of how I like it, and this is why I live here now.
And I think, this is a great feature of this country's political system (others have it too, BTW). This is not "plutocracy" -- plutocracy implies illegality.
Because without wealth, there is no |"education, freedom, everything" -- not for long, anyway.
Sorry, I disagree with the "plutocracy" part. Republic is the best system currently known to me, where the ills of "straight" Democracy and monarchy (strong executive) are mitigated by the rule of law and the general "checks and balances".
The same is said just as often about your favorite socialistic heavens of Canada and Europe.
And I vote.
I mean, this is, what they look like...
Neither system is necessarily psychopathic. In a capitalistic democracy, however, changing the government is entirely possible. Capitalistic democracies also tend to exist because people prefer them, while communist regimes have to rely on constant indoctrination and suppression.
I escaped socialism, which I was born into. Before I see it imposed on me again, I'll fight it -- including, if need be, hanging its advocates on lamp posts, where they belong.
And before you start on the "but the rest of civilized world is socialistic" road, here is a quote for you:
Africa is a continent, not a country. But I am talking about things done by a regime to its own, rather then foreign people.
India? Chile? Quatar? Costa Rica? Enough?
No? Ok, South Korea? Singapore? Taiwan? Oh, yes, they "lucked out" (whatever that means). New Zealand, Australia? Turkey?
It is a bloody shame we don't. While swastikas are frowned upon and "nazi" a dirty word, the term "Soviet Russia" produces only a smirk, Che Guevara T-shirts are considered sexy, and the horrible Hammer-and-Sickle emblem is used for Vodka commercials (just imagine Swastika used to advertise Riesling)...
Anyway, I have a problem with the mandatory fingerprinting. I think, it is offensive.
Please. This is a slippery slope -- foreigners already are photographed and forced to submit fingerprints on entering US. There is no security reason not to impose the same upon citizens -- only the political one -- the voting public's opposition.
Are you talking about communicating at a speed exceeding the speed of light? Does not the current model rule that flat-out?
Is the magnetic field flopping not caused by the wide-spread of gas-guzzling SUVs, Oil Wars, presidency stealing, and censorship? What? No? Not even by the Israeli land-stealing? Oh, well...
If you were content with FCC's power to censor, what it considers indecent, during Clinton's 8 years, you should be quiet now -- unless, of course, you feel, that the definition of "indecency" changed dramaticly.
I don't have that feeling, and I don't see, how a reasonable person can either.
Should've objected, when the censoring power of the FCC was instituted...