Actually it is possible to train cats not to do that. Just close the door after a set amount of time. And ignore any requests to open the door for about half an hour. If they sit in the doorway just close it gently but hard enough to make the cat uncomfortable (but not hard enough to bruise it).
They learn.
Works on dogs too but it generally takes longer to train the less intellegent breeds.
I mean smaller not obfuscated. And I agree...crap like you just posted is usually on the first list of things to hit the chopping block when I'm debugging other people's code.
This has *nothing* to do with comments either since I tend not to count it as code and I'll bet neither do most PHBs
I've worked on projects where my *readable* code + comments. Turned out to be less than a third of the unreadable sludge that it was replacing.
The odd thing is the sludge is where I most often find clever code compactions like the one you listed as a bad example.
Spammers most certainly do NOT pay for bandwidth. It's a side benefit to using open relays. 1 msg with 200 recipiants is a lot of b/w savings for the original sender.
And lets not forget the mail bomb of bounces/hate mail sent to whoever happens to own the domain the spammer is foraging.
I am well aware of the flaws in bind and sendmail and that is why the former never runs as root on my servers and I almost never use the later.
And if you go back to look at the original post you will see what I was annoyed about was the constant crying about how MS only gets exploited because they are the most popular. That and the fact that they are too busy blaming the administor while selling their system as something any idiot can run.
And as for windows kicking *nix ass I disagree. There are still fewer *nix vulerabilities and I can expect fixes in a much shorter timeframe.
I don't want vendors who try and downplay the damage I want a patch. And I want that patch to fix the hole and only the hole. Not add more features and I *don't* want said patch uninstalled by any applications.
As someone who has to deal with both Linux and Windows on a day to day basis I can tell you that the number of exploits are in fact my smallest complaints with MS. And I don't see them dealing with it, There have been several vulnerabillities reported since that "leaked" memo and still no improvement in their reaction.
I also don't give a damn about internal breakins and social engineering. These days those are a minority of what bothers me. I care about the consant kiddy scanning (5 or 6 times a day lately) Those are the kids I need to outrun. The rest can and is dealt with directly where I work.
Yea but look at the turnaround time. Same day day as the advisory and we have bugfixes for the zlib itself and mozilla. Next day for the kernel and most of the static apps on my system.
That is a complete load of crap. How many apache exploits have we seen in 2 years? How many in IIS? Apache runs 60% of web sites according to netcraft. Yet Apache has had few exploits.
What really blows your theory apart is that in the past there have been smaller companies with worse records.
MS' problem is that they never seem to consider the security implications when they start tossing on new features. Then when something does break they pass the blame. Or cry about getting more attention for being the leader.
I find it rather sad that they clame to have a server that any monkey can set up and run but then when it breaks they blame the monkey.
The problem does *not* end with the discovered exploit either. Exploits happen and they need to deal with them properly.
This means:
Not treating exploits as a PR problem.
Not rolling bug fixes into feature upgrades.
Not having other software accidentally remove fixes.
Thay can't lower prices. To ensure their massive cash flow they need stock prices to keep rising and the only way it will do that is if they post revenue increases.
The Desktop market is already dead for them. Too many buisnesses don't see the point of upgrading beond W2K. Office has the same problem. THis all has nothing to do with Linux.
The server market is the one place Linux is actually doing damage.
CE isn't making it's development money back.
WebTV was a big flop.
What's left X-BOX. Cell phones?
We have a company too used to being the dominant player to be able to break into new markets and going by the spew of new products into new markets lately they know the old revenue stream is dying.
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Tom's harware was really off the mark for this one.
So they make a 64 bit plug in for Visual Studio.. great what do you run it on now?
I doubt Windows XP will know to save the other registers on a task switch or be able to address the extra memory without playing page table games. That leaves AMD to come up with a better optimised 32 bit compiler like Intel did? But why the hell would they do that?
Like it or not AMD is stuck waiting for Microsoft for this one but I wouldn't hold my breath.
You definatly don't want to do that in something as performance critical as a timming loop. The performance hit would huge on any 32 bit arch and doubbly so on something as register starved as x86.
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you did it the hard way.. next time just use the DEC tulip drivers included with the kernel.
Exactly.. and I know this because those groups tend to put me in the "heathen bin"
I think in bible times they would have referred to themselves as "Pharasees".
"It has one validIt has one valid point though....chmod 666 can be an evil command"
And that is exactly what I tell programmers who demand I set their log files that way so the webserver can write to them.
I didn't say it didn't exist. I said some of the more extreme baptists wouldn't listen to it.
For the record I've listened to most of the bands youve listed.
And I made the mistake of letting the wrong people know that with rather entertaining results.
yeah deffinatly.
From the bios page "Since then he has gotten himself cleaned up, has started listening to Christian rock"
Christian and rock in the same sentence has gotten me blasted by the more millitant baptists in the past.
The sight is almost passable as real though and that's a sad commentary on some of the more extreme wingnuts who clame the title of "Christian"
How does a district that is barely or in some cases not even meeting current expences pay for a lawer?
Better yet change the numbers to the local police station.
Flash will crash and take Mozilla with it if anything happens to have the sound device open when using the Linux version.
How the hell is that liberal ??
You can only use it for non commercial purposes and any derivitave works must be continued on the same licence so it's just as viral as the GPL
It's a licence that bars you from competing.
They do not provide source. They provide a compileable wrapper for their binary only module.
Works great until you upgrade the kernel and discover it's now incompatable with the interface changes.
Or if you have a kernel crash and discover that you now get NO support from anyone since they can't debug that driver.
I've actually banned my employer's supplier from including nvidia card so I can be more flexable about what OS I want to put on the machines later.
Most spammers never see the bounce messages.
Those get unloaded on whatever poor sucker owns the domain they "borrowed"
Actually it is possible to train cats not to do that. Just close the door after a set amount of time. And ignore any requests to open the door for about half an hour. If they sit in the doorway just close it gently but hard enough to make the cat uncomfortable (but not hard enough to bruise it).
They learn.
Works on dogs too but it generally takes longer to train the less intellegent breeds.
Your taking a page from a site titled "humorix" and calling it history? Re read that page and you will discover it's a JOKE.
I mean smaller not obfuscated. And I agree ...crap like you just posted is usually on the first list of things to hit the chopping block when I'm debugging other people's code.
This has *nothing* to do with comments either since I tend not to count it as code and I'll bet neither do most PHBs
I've worked on projects where my *readable* code + comments. Turned out to be less than a third of the unreadable sludge that it was replacing.
The odd thing is the sludge is where I most often find clever code compactions like the one you listed as a bad example.
It's not. A good programmer can do in 5 lines what a bad one can do in 20.
Unless of course slow and bloated is the overall goal.
Spammers most certainly do NOT pay for bandwidth. It's a side benefit to using open relays. 1 msg with 200 recipiants is a lot of b/w savings for the original sender.
And lets not forget the mail bomb of bounces/hate mail sent to whoever happens to own the domain the spammer is foraging.
The main problem is that were policing ourselves and losing the war.
I use a blacklist and I risk blocking potential customers.
I use content based filters and I risk blocking legit email.
Faked headdres, open relays, isp hopping. I've even had reports of spammers paying people to root boxes and install their own software.
They won't stop until it gets expensive, and until then there are just enough stupid people online to make spam a profitable buisness.
I am well aware of the flaws in bind and sendmail and that is why the former never runs as root on my servers and I almost never use the later.
And if you go back to look at the original post you will see what I was annoyed about was the constant crying about how MS only gets exploited because they are the most popular. That and the fact that they are too busy blaming the administor while selling their system as something any idiot can run.
And as for windows kicking *nix ass I disagree. There are still fewer *nix vulerabilities and I can expect fixes in a much shorter timeframe.
I don't want vendors who try and downplay the damage I want a patch. And I want that patch to fix the hole and only the hole. Not add more features and I *don't* want said patch uninstalled by any applications.
As someone who has to deal with both Linux and Windows on a day to day basis I can tell you that the number of exploits are in fact my smallest complaints with MS. And I don't see them dealing with it, There have been several vulnerabillities reported since that "leaked" memo and still no improvement in their reaction.
I also don't give a damn about internal breakins and social engineering. These days those are a minority of what bothers me. I care about the consant kiddy scanning (5 or 6 times a day lately) Those are the kids I need to outrun. The rest can and is dealt with directly where I work.
Yea but look at the turnaround time. Same day day as the advisory and we have bugfixes for the zlib itself and mozilla. Next day for the kernel and most of the static apps on my system.
And nothing was broken by the fix.
If 1 variable affects a million lines of code than you have one very badly designed program.
That is a complete load of crap. How many apache exploits have we seen in 2 years? How many in IIS? Apache runs 60% of web sites according to netcraft. Yet Apache has had few exploits.
What really blows your theory apart is that in the past there have been smaller companies with worse records.
MS' problem is that they never seem to consider the security implications when they start tossing on new features. Then when something does break they pass the blame. Or cry about getting more attention for being the leader.
I find it rather sad that they clame to have a server that any monkey can set up and run but then when it breaks they blame the monkey.
The problem does *not* end with the discovered exploit either. Exploits happen and they need to deal with them properly.
This means:
Not treating exploits as a PR problem.
Not rolling bug fixes into feature upgrades.
Not having other software accidentally remove fixes.
Thay can't lower prices. To ensure their massive cash flow they need stock prices to keep rising and the only way it will do that is if they post revenue increases.
The Desktop market is already dead for them. Too many buisnesses don't see the point of upgrading beond W2K. Office has the same problem. THis all has nothing to do with Linux.
The server market is the one place Linux is actually doing damage.
CE isn't making it's development money back.
WebTV was a big flop.
What's left X-BOX. Cell phones?
We have a company too used to being the dominant player to be able to break into new markets and going by the spew of new products into new markets lately they know the old revenue stream is dying.
Tom's harware was really off the mark for this one.
So they make a 64 bit plug in for Visual Studio.. great what do you run it on now?
I doubt Windows XP will know to save the other registers on a task switch or be able to address the extra memory without playing page table games. That leaves AMD to come up with a better optimised 32 bit compiler like Intel did? But why the hell would they do that?
Like it or not AMD is stuck waiting for Microsoft for this one but I wouldn't hold my breath.
You definatly don't want to do that in something as performance critical as a timming loop. The performance hit would huge on any 32 bit arch and doubbly so on something as register starved as x86.