Not really, Gnutella doesn't even have a fraction of the traffic Napster has, and it's non-functional with a dial up modem. I'll have to admit it is amusing to watch all the requests fly by with Gnutella, I think I saw just about every variation of "Nude Britany Spears" that you can think of.
What about if you make the user click on an agreement that states they do not intend to use napster for any copywritten material and they agree to be responsible for anything they share. Or make them click on an agreement that they are not affiliated with the recording industry and have no intentions of prosecuting them. Sort of like if your a hooker and you ask the john if he's a cop, he has to tell you... or something like that..so I've heard anyways... After all, I still have a hard time believeing that Napser is responsible for the total disreagrd of IP that the general public seems to have.
Bingo. But you will never be able to talk sense to the young. It's pretty silly really, why not just go have demonstrations in front of the brick and mortar headwuarters of all the evil corporations who are "dominating" the net. I mean, who really cares... they aren't breaking any laws, it's just the way the world works. But then again, the whole destroying someting to prove a point is silly, and generally only your angst filled youth can make sense of it. If you really want to fight them then why not build someting great and use that... sorta like Linus did with Linux.
Or heck, maybe Linus's time would have been better spent hacking into websites and leaving 1337 messages there...
Uh.... is it just me or has everyone here been tricked by the almighty Microsoft marketing machine? Lets all remember that Win 2K is actually nothing more than NT5. In fact a lot of the third party programs I run will report that when you query them for OS stats. Sure they took NT 4 and did a lot of work but the core of the OS is still NT. Repeat after me, Win2k is the upgraded version of NT4.
Based upon how Win2k performs on my box I'm not surprised by these results though. It is considerably slower than NT 4 was on a slower machine I was using before the upgrade. Considerablly slower. However it doesn't need to be rebooted after lunch everyday to reclaim all the leaking memory like NT4 did. That's a plus. Lets be realistic here, Microsoft has never been known for caring too much about optimizing for speed, they always go for features features features, meaning bloat in some cases but always meaning you will need a lot more machine to run it properly than the previous version. I guess it has worked well for them in the past although people seem to be getting wise lately.
I know that many of these responese are simply trolls, but it really amazes me that the marketing principle of changing a name really works, even on people who are fairly techinical. I guess they really do know what they are doing.
Then perhaps we should go after the people who design and build roads, because I have great reason to believe that criminals use them to drive stolen cars from one place to another. Lets also go after the auto manufacturers, because I have great reason to belive that people use there cars to commit crimes.
Your analagy is poor. You can't take away the fact that it is the enduser who is responsible. Hell, lets shut down the ISP's all over the world because I have great reason to believe that people use the Internet to traffic in child porn.
I won't deny what napster is used for, but that should not be the issue here, the issue is that the people who abuse it should be held liable.
Why do you say this? Napster has not broken any laws, it's the people who use it that are breaking the law. If you download a song that has a copyright then you are breaking the law, not napster. Do we arrest gun dealers when an angst filled teen kills his tormentors? Should we? Isn't this the same thing? Surely the RIAA knows this, they also know that they cannot go after every pencil necked geek who is stealing from them, thus they attempt to bully Napster. I think it's a crime for Napster to give in.
And for the record, I have never downloaded any music from Napster. It's wrong and I have morals
I have read this book and found it to be quite lacking. The lack of technical details makes it aimed more for the wannabe hop on the bandwagon crowd than the "in the know" crowd. I also feel that the word hacker has been raped too many times and is now associated with crackers, thus tainting it's usage.
To summarize, this book is not for those in the high tech mindset. I found it to be a waste of time
You do have a point there. I'm using ie on win2000 and when ie goes down I just click "End Task" and then restart it. I've never used Win98 so I can't comment on how ie affects it when it goes down. I can say then when I was using NT4 I used to have to reboot sometimes after an explorer crash in order to get it to work again, but under win2000 I have never had tha problem.
I use ie 5.0 at work all day long and a number of differnet versions of Netscape 6.0, Mozilla M18, Mozilla nightly build (from last week) and Netscape 4.5 at home and I can say without any shadow of doubt in my mind that ie blows the rest away. In fact it's not even close. As strange as it is to say this I really feel that MS has raised the standard for web browsers with ie. It's fast and it crashed on rare occasion (maybe once a week for me) while Netscape/Mozilla will go down once every couple hours under heavy browsing.
I'm a big open source fan and I have my own open source project so I am biased in a major way towards free software, but I have to doubt the sanity of anybody who can claim that the netscape/mozilla browser is better then ie. Just because we want it to win doesn't mean that it will. Just because we hate to see the giant monopolistic company produce a superior product doesn't stop them from doing so. IMHO the absolute worst thing the OSS community can do is bury it's angry head in the sand and pretend that no matter what we do it's better because we stand for the right cause.
And for those who are complaing about all the links to netscape etc., I suggest you call them up and demand a full refund for your product.
How does this impact my "computing experience" again?
Well, that's a good question. If I were to make a slow and well thought out response to your question I might slowly come to the conclusion that there might be a few things which are native to java which might standout with regards to other languages. Of course one must be slow to respond to this question because it is of a technical nature and there are many aspects of a programming language which must be slowly looked upon when doing analysis. In fact, I'm going to slowly ponder this and perhaps repond with a more insightfull post at a later time.
Fine. Do you think that the presence of GTK+ and the rapid develpoment of Gnome may have put a little pressure on the folks at Trolltech with regards to making QT free? Do you think that choice is good? Do you thnk that competition is good?
I'm not for wasting effort but if you look at the big picture I think you'll see that healty competition usually leads to better products.
Well...not that it matters... but what I meant was that the Macs refusal to compete on price was one of the things that lead the their utter and total loss to MS. I didn't mean to imply that NeXt was competing with MS, but rather that a Steve Jobs run NeXt also refused to compete on price. Thus showing that as a theme of Steve Jobs companies..or whatever..
Amen to that my brother. They had the same problem with the Mac's... they just flat out refused to compete on price... and thus they allowed MS to filet their arses. Mr. Jobs had a very hard time grasping that beyond the zealots, many people consider $$$ as a very important part of the purchasing equation, unless of course your a company like id who can afford to drop a bundle on a NeXt workstation or a nifty SGI box.
Well I for one think that good uses for technology are far overrated. After all one of the great truths for salespeople is that most people will buy things on emotion, not need. So if you see something and your heart skips a beat and you immediatly think "ohhhh....cooooool" then you are well on your way to owning that product, it really doesn't matter if it is going to enhance your life or not. And more often then not we can trick ourselves into thinking it will enhance our lives if it's cool enough... "Hey... that palm pilot will really help me organize my life.. and heck.. it's only $500... oh what the hell..I'll take it!!!!"
Now...I really need to get back to programming my to do list into this little Motorola PageWritter... this little two way pager is really going to help me increase my productivity.
Amen to that my brother. It seems to render pretty quick although it seems very sluggish otherwise. I'm going to try to run it for a few days to see how it goes. It is an uphill battle though as IE 5.0 is pretty good IMHO, it's fast and pretty stable. Also you are correct about the default theme... I have to wonder who in the world designed that.... it's just butt ugly. The classic theme is a little dated but it's still beter than that space-aged default thing they are trying to use.
Sorry to hear about your problems with Mandrake. I bought 7.1 ( $30 bucks..can't beat that ) a few weeks ago and had it installed and running in about a half hour. The install was the most painless install I've ever had. It found my parallel zip drive and created a mount point for it, it configured X perfectly for my generic video card and generic monitor... the only thing it missed was my network card. (non PCI so I couldn't blame it). I gave it an A++ for the install.
The only problem I've had was when I used Drakconf to try to change my resolution. It flaked out pretty bad and I had to hack the XF86Config by hand to get X back...All in all I would recommend Mandrake to anybody who wants to try Linux, especially a newbie.
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As for the nuclear bomb, it was the scientists who should have stopped it, because only they could possibly be able to see the consequences of what they were up.
Off topic but anyways....The dropping of the nuclear bomb saved a lot of lives during WWII, and one could argue that it has saved many since. It's easy to say that the nuclear bomb is evil and the world would be a better place without it, but you really have no way of knowing what overall effect that would have had.
Amen to that my brother. It's all about the clicks baby... it's all about the clicks. Hype, incite, troll and create buzz for the clicks. The Net is now being run by the suits... the mainsream media, who has never really been too concerned with the facts, rather the viewing audience. It's all about the clicks.
I think it's actually a shame that we even have to respond to this, it's almost like trying to reply to a slashdot troll, you are basically doing excatly what he wants...generating even more buzz...buzz buzz..click click....welcome to the Internet year 2000.
Ha...yeah... I had a vega... I paid a whoping $125 for it... I was beyond dirt poor at the time:)
I used to look in the rear view mirror and just watch the black smoke shoot from the exhaust pipe. I think it got better gas mileage than it did oil mileage.. man did that piece O junk burn oil.
I'm guessing that the sales department might be seperate from the geek department at slashdot. Once you are part of a larger company these type of thigs can happen. It's kind of sad really... maybe they just need to get together and have a big ol meeting so they can discuss why they don't want to sell ads to anyone who uses doubleclick..
Bun in the meantime just make sure you have your junkbuster proxy configured and running. The sad thing is that/. is only hurting themseves by running the doubleclick ads as many of there readers are pretty vocal about the fact that they block those from there machines.
Uh...suck...oh for the sweet love of God...suck??? I mean.. don't get me wrong suck might be correct... but I hardly think that suck is the website to go to when you are looking for hard hitting news...
Not a bad troll.. shame on you for trolling at +2 though. Lets have a detailed look at the troll.. shall we?
Well it was bound to happen. I just hope that I can have the look still be professional
Aha.. so we are coming in with the pious, self rightous troll. Well okay, these are typically hard to pull off do to the combative nature of the troll, but some trollers like a challenge.
The only thing that really ticks me off about Gnome is the H@kkerD00dz look that it has. KDE is much more professional.
Okay.. your form is a little sloppy here but I like your spunk. You lose points with the hacker-dudes reference though.. it's just a little too flambaity but the KDE is more proffesional line is great. It's generic enough to draw attention while slipping under the troll detectors of most readers
When I was faced with what WM to choose for our X workstations I was told to use something professional, but that could be customized. Gnome failed the test
Again with the kde is more proffesional bit.. it works well here. Nicely done. Again you offer no facts to back up your opinions so you increase the chances of sucking in the average slashdotter. This is a nice variation of the "I'm a consultant for a fortune 500 company" troll.. nice
Oh, you can set Gnome as default, but KDE is the standard in our office.
Your dismount is weak here.. you were really building steam then you just gave up. Remeber a good troll seems like a genuine post, you need to work on bringing it all together at the end.
Your troll score is 7.5 out of 10, not bad but it needs a little work
I understand what you mean and that would probably work well enough. I think posting anonymously gives you certain freedoms that allows for more frank discussions at times, and yes, the flip side is that people can abuse those freedoms. Freedom does not come without a price, but it's worth it in the long run.
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Not really, Gnutella doesn't even have a fraction of the traffic Napster has, and it's non-functional with a dial up modem. I'll have to admit it is amusing to watch all the requests fly by with Gnutella, I think I saw just about every variation of "Nude Britany Spears" that you can think of.
What about if you make the user click on an agreement that states they do not intend to use napster for any copywritten material and they agree to be responsible for anything they share. Or make them click on an agreement that they are not affiliated with the recording industry and have no intentions of prosecuting them. Sort of like if your a hooker and you ask the john if he's a cop, he has to tell you... or something like that..so I've heard anyways... After all, I still have a hard time believeing that Napser is responsible for the total disreagrd of IP that the general public seems to have.
Bingo. But you will never be able to talk sense to the young. It's pretty silly really, why not just go have demonstrations in front of the brick and mortar headwuarters of all the evil corporations who are "dominating" the net. I mean, who really cares... they aren't breaking any laws, it's just the way the world works. But then again, the whole destroying someting to prove a point is silly, and generally only your angst filled youth can make sense of it. If you really want to fight them then why not build someting great and use that... sorta like Linus did with Linux.
Or heck, maybe Linus's time would have been better spent hacking into websites and leaving 1337 messages there...
Uh.... is it just me or has everyone here been tricked by the almighty Microsoft marketing machine? Lets all remember that Win 2K is actually nothing more than NT5. In fact a lot of the third party programs I run will report that when you query them for OS stats. Sure they took NT 4 and did a lot of work but the core of the OS is still NT. Repeat after me, Win2k is the upgraded version of NT4.
Based upon how Win2k performs on my box I'm not surprised by these results though. It is considerably slower than NT 4 was on a slower machine I was using before the upgrade. Considerablly slower. However it doesn't need to be rebooted after lunch everyday to reclaim all the leaking memory like NT4 did. That's a plus. Lets be realistic here, Microsoft has never been known for caring too much about optimizing for speed, they always go for features features features, meaning bloat in some cases but always meaning you will need a lot more machine to run it properly than the previous version. I guess it has worked well for them in the past although people seem to be getting wise lately.
I know that many of these responese are simply trolls, but it really amazes me that the marketing principle of changing a name really works, even on people who are fairly techinical. I guess they really do know what they are doing.
Then perhaps we should go after the people who design and build roads, because I have great reason to believe that criminals use them to drive stolen cars from one place to another. Lets also go after the auto manufacturers, because I have great reason to belive that people use there cars to commit crimes.
Your analagy is poor. You can't take away the fact that it is the enduser who is responsible. Hell, lets shut down the ISP's all over the world because I have great reason to believe that people use the Internet to traffic in child porn.
I won't deny what napster is used for, but that should not be the issue here, the issue is that the people who abuse it should be held liable.
Why do you say this? Napster has not broken any laws, it's the people who use it that are breaking the law. If you download a song that has a copyright then you are breaking the law, not napster. Do we arrest gun dealers when an angst filled teen kills his tormentors? Should we? Isn't this the same thing? Surely the RIAA knows this, they also know that they cannot go after every pencil necked geek who is stealing from them, thus they attempt to bully Napster. I think it's a crime for Napster to give in.
And for the record, I have never downloaded any music from Napster. It's wrong and I have morals
I have read this book and found it to be quite lacking. The lack of technical details makes it aimed more for the wannabe hop on the bandwagon crowd than the "in the know" crowd. I also feel that the word hacker has been raped too many times and is now associated with crackers, thus tainting it's usage.
To summarize, this book is not for those in the high tech mindset. I found it to be a waste of time
You do have a point there. I'm using ie on win2000 and when ie goes down I just click "End Task" and then restart it. I've never used Win98 so I can't comment on how ie affects it when it goes down. I can say then when I was using NT4 I used to have to reboot sometimes after an explorer crash in order to get it to work again, but under win2000 I have never had tha problem.
I use ie 5.0 at work all day long and a number of differnet versions of Netscape 6.0, Mozilla M18, Mozilla nightly build (from last week) and Netscape 4.5 at home and I can say without any shadow of doubt in my mind that ie blows the rest away. In fact it's not even close. As strange as it is to say this I really feel that MS has raised the standard for web browsers with ie. It's fast and it crashed on rare occasion (maybe once a week for me) while Netscape/Mozilla will go down once every couple hours under heavy browsing.
I'm a big open source fan and I have my own open source project so I am biased in a major way towards free software, but I have to doubt the sanity of anybody who can claim that the netscape/mozilla browser is better then ie. Just because we want it to win doesn't mean that it will. Just because we hate to see the giant monopolistic company produce a superior product doesn't stop them from doing so. IMHO the absolute worst thing the OSS community can do is bury it's angry head in the sand and pretend that no matter what we do it's better because we stand for the right cause.
And for those who are complaing about all the links to netscape etc., I suggest you call them up and demand a full refund for your product.
I expect that the locusts will be returning any day now.
Well I certainly wouldn't want to take part in a language war, but one distinct advantage that Perl has over Python is CPAN.
How does this impact my "computing experience" again?
Well, that's a good question. If I were to make a slow and well thought out response to your question I might slowly come to the conclusion that there might be a few things which are native to java which might standout with regards to other languages. Of course one must be slow to respond to this question because it is of a technical nature and there are many aspects of a programming language which must be slowly looked upon when doing analysis. In fact, I'm going to slowly ponder this and perhaps repond with a more insightfull post at a later time.
Fine. Do you think that the presence of GTK+ and the rapid develpoment of Gnome may have put a little pressure on the folks at Trolltech with regards to making QT free? Do you think that choice is good? Do you thnk that competition is good?
I'm not for wasting effort but if you look at the big picture I think you'll see that healty competition usually leads to better products.
Well...not that it matters... but what I meant was that the Macs refusal to compete on price was one of the things that lead the their utter and total loss to MS. I didn't mean to imply that NeXt was competing with MS, but rather that a Steve Jobs run NeXt also refused to compete on price. Thus showing that as a theme of Steve Jobs companies..or whatever..
Amen to that my brother. They had the same problem with the Mac's... they just flat out refused to compete on price... and thus they allowed MS to filet their arses. Mr. Jobs had a very hard time grasping that beyond the zealots, many people consider $$$ as a very important part of the purchasing equation, unless of course your a company like id who can afford to drop a bundle on a NeXt workstation or a nifty SGI box.
Well I for one think that good uses for technology are far overrated. After all one of the great truths for salespeople is that most people will buy things on emotion, not need. So if you see something and your heart skips a beat and you immediatly think "ohhhh....cooooool" then you are well on your way to owning that product, it really doesn't matter if it is going to enhance your life or not. And more often then not we can trick ourselves into thinking it will enhance our lives if it's cool enough... "Hey... that palm pilot will really help me organize my life.. and heck.. it's only $500... oh what the hell..I'll take it!!!!"
Now...I really need to get back to programming my to do list into this little Motorola PageWritter... this little two way pager is really going to help me increase my productivity.
Amen to that my brother. It seems to render pretty quick although it seems very sluggish otherwise. I'm going to try to run it for a few days to see how it goes. It is an uphill battle though as IE 5.0 is pretty good IMHO, it's fast and pretty stable. Also you are correct about the default theme... I have to wonder who in the world designed that.... it's just butt ugly. The classic theme is a little dated but it's still beter than that space-aged default thing they are trying to use.
AC - Bringing the first post back to the people
Sorry to hear about your problems with Mandrake. I bought 7.1 ( $30 bucks..can't beat that ) a few weeks ago and had it installed and running in about a half hour. The install was the most painless install I've ever had. It found my parallel zip drive and created a mount point for it, it configured X perfectly for my generic video card and generic monitor... the only thing it missed was my network card. (non PCI so I couldn't blame it). I gave it an A++ for the install.
The only problem I've had was when I used Drakconf to try to change my resolution. It flaked out pretty bad and I had to hack the XF86Config by hand to get X back...All in all I would recommend Mandrake to anybody who wants to try Linux, especially a newbie.
As for the nuclear bomb, it was the scientists who should have stopped it, because only they could possibly be able to see the consequences of what they were up.
Off topic but anyways....The dropping of the nuclear bomb saved a lot of lives during WWII, and one could argue that it has saved many since. It's easy to say that the nuclear bomb is evil and the world would be a better place without it, but you really have no way of knowing what overall effect that would have had.
Amen to that my brother. It's all about the clicks baby... it's all about the clicks. Hype, incite, troll and create buzz for the clicks. The Net is now being run by the suits... the mainsream media, who has never really been too concerned with the facts, rather the viewing audience. It's all about the clicks.
I think it's actually a shame that we even have to respond to this, it's almost like trying to reply to a slashdot troll, you are basically doing excatly what he wants...generating even more buzz...buzz buzz..click click....welcome to the Internet year 2000.
Ha...yeah... I had a vega... I paid a whoping $125 for it... I was beyond dirt poor at the time :)
I used to look in the rear view mirror and just watch the black smoke shoot from the exhaust pipe. I think it got better gas mileage than it did oil mileage.. man did that piece O junk burn oil.
Amen to that my brother
/. is only hurting themseves by running the doubleclick ads as many of there readers are pretty vocal about the fact that they block those from there machines.
I'm guessing that the sales department might be seperate from the geek department at slashdot. Once you are part of a larger company these type of thigs can happen. It's kind of sad really... maybe they just need to get together and have a big ol meeting so they can discuss why they don't want to sell ads to anyone who uses doubleclick..
Bun in the meantime just make sure you have your junkbuster proxy configured and running. The sad thing is that
why isn't spyglass there?? For those of you living under a rock spyglass is the browser that MS bought (licensed) to turn into the now famous IE.
Uh...suck...oh for the sweet love of God...suck??? I mean.. don't get me wrong suck might be correct... but I hardly think that suck is the website to go to when you are looking for hard hitting news...
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Not a bad troll.. shame on you for trolling at +2 though. Lets have a detailed look at the troll.. shall we?
Well it was bound to happen. I just hope that I can have the look still be professional
Aha.. so we are coming in with the pious, self rightous troll. Well okay, these are typically hard to pull off do to the combative nature of the troll, but some trollers like a challenge.
The only thing that really ticks me off about Gnome is the H@kkerD00dz look that it has. KDE is much more professional.
Okay.. your form is a little sloppy here but I like your spunk. You lose points with the hacker-dudes reference though.. it's just a little too flambaity but the KDE is more proffesional line is great. It's generic enough to draw attention while slipping under the troll detectors of most readers
When I was faced with what WM to choose for our X workstations I was told to use something professional, but that could be customized. Gnome failed the test
Again with the kde is more proffesional bit.. it works well here. Nicely done. Again you offer no facts to back up your opinions so you increase the chances of sucking in the average slashdotter. This is a nice variation of the "I'm a consultant for a fortune 500 company" troll.. nice
Oh, you can set Gnome as default, but KDE is the standard in our office.
Your dismount is weak here.. you were really building steam then you just gave up. Remeber a good troll seems like a genuine post, you need to work on bringing it all together at the end.
Your troll score is 7.5 out of 10, not bad but it needs a little work
I understand what you mean and that would probably work well enough. I think posting anonymously gives you certain freedoms that allows for more frank discussions at times, and yes, the flip side is that people can abuse those freedoms. Freedom does not come without a price, but it's worth it in the long run.