Shuttleworth claims people that oppose his little project are doing so because of politics in open source, then in the same breath labels everyone who's against Mir "Open Source Tea Party" ?
Fucking hypocrite. You know, I used to love Ubuntu back in the day. At 10.04 I switched back to Debian because I was sick of feeling like I was being led forward on a dog leash. It hasn't changed. Mark hasn't changed, and he thinks he's some sort of open source leader, far beyond the little garden he's planted. There's a whole landscape of different vegitation, man, and you didn't create it all. Stop acting like you did.
I worked for California schools for 4 years as a technical consultant. It hurts me deeply to say, especially since my first son is just starting Kindergarten, that these schools really are going to go with whatever is recommended to them at the highest corporate/political level. I helped bring LTSP and thus Linux to thousands of elementary school kids over this period as a pilot (and after successful pilot, transition from aging Windows PCs in media/computer labs) in 7 schools. It felt so amazing for me to have the honor of exposing this many children to open source software. But, after the acting technoogy director retired, a new one stepped in and quickly pulled the plug on the whole setup, reverting back to Windows.
It's the same at deeply rooted non-profits for kids. I worked for Boys & Girls Clubs in California, doing the same thing - in addition to LTSP, though, we also had Linux on the back-end fileserver and firewall. It was a great setup. Then, we heard that Microsoft suddenly (and unexpectedly) had given them a grant for new PCs, on the condition that Windows was the only OS installed, and they essentially weren't allowed to "tinker" with them.
The RIAA and MPAA are very large and rich corporations. They have that much money to throw at conditioning young children that software is something that comes with many restrictions and cannot be shared freely, modified or "tinkered" with. Schools will go along with it as long as there's a benefit for them. The moral standing of the people at the top of the education system's pyramid aren't exactly the best, from what I've experienced, and I'm sure many of them have very close ties with other "industry" executives. Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Makes me think of "National Lampoon's Senior Trip". Ha!
It floors me how the school can not, at the VERY LEAST, sympathize with the kid and try to fix the issue of the initial bullying. But it seems like they're all still quite tied up in the whole...GO WILDCATS! GO SCHOOL SPIRIT!! WOOOOO!!!! bullshit that runs the school system. Now I want to download the app and go to the school, and "shoot" the ones who put him in juvie.
Now, am I going to get arrested for suggesting that?
When asked about how his opinion of the surveillance programs have changed, he said his perception of them have not evolved since the story broke worldwide. "What you're not seeing is people actually abusing these programs."
Real Americans aren't paying attention to R vs. D since many years ago. If you believe the consciousness of the majority of the American people align with what you see on your television from the U.S., you're just as ignorant.
'At the end of the day it's about people and trust... if they misuse the trust that they won't be honest with the American people about all of the ways the NSA is COMPLETELY IGNORING THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, they can cause huge damage. To me. Look at my furrows of worry! I have a lot invested in this ride! Shut them up!'
A couple thousand alternative currencies such as Bitcoin started surfacing? What would happen when the economy is completely watered down with different types of currencies just because people started using them as heavily as Bitcoin?
The IRS can "legally" tax barter agreements for their monetary value, just to tax trade.
I'm getting an image of an arrogant, bratty red faced child with their hands out, waiting for their piece of cake.
If Bitcoin can't exist outside of the economic iron fist, then what possibility do normal people have with turning it around?
Applying sales tax to anything BUT the merchendise (i.e. NOT labor of any kind) is labor/income tax. Which, if you've read up on the history of income tax, shluldn't be legal in the first place.
This whole ideal about trickling/sneaking/forcing in legislation regarding either establishing or increasing taxes of any kind is immoral and we should be ashamed of allowing it to get this far.
We can't just prune this tree, we have to cut it down.
There, I said it.
(I am an independent technical consultant in California, so this especially hits home for me..)
I mean, look at our moon and other planets/moons in our solar system. Look at their craters. Look at the craters on our planet. Something hits something else, a peice breaks off and flies toward something else (eventually). Let's say a comet so big hit Earth that gravity from the comet attracts water, bacteria, plantlife, some fish, etc. and then flies off in another direction...carries it somewhere else. If you think about how LONG the universe has been around, this is a scientific certainty that the "building blocks of life" will be carried around and distributed to other planets.
I like to think that the universe has been playing a nonstop game of billiards for billions and billions of years.
I cannot disagree that Ubuntu (and Canonical) have done a good (no, great) job at bringing Linux more into peoples' hearts and minds. To say that Ubuntu is a poster-boy distro, however, would be a crime. Ubuntu stood on the shoulders of Debian to gain its traction, but past the initial push of getting better hardware/driver support, it seems like the roadmap of Ubuntu has been about as scattered as darts thrown by a drunken barfly. A bunch of ambitious "tries" at different angles, with very little attention to actually fixing bugs to maintain their stability/usability ("Won't fix" as new release is out, LTS: Long-term-suffering,...). I really, really tried loving Ubuntu for the long term, even bet my biggest contract on them to bring LTSP to schools (one of their ambitious "tries" back in the day) but their coordination with outside OSS projects and communities were disappointing to me.
I'm not trying to bash Ubuntu, like I said they have done a lot of good. But I'm typing this on my Debian workstation, which I left to go to Ubuntu for a number of years, and now I'm back. And I couldn't be happier, because I haven't had such a stable system in years =) None the less, congrats on fixing the infamous bug #1 I guess. It is a very sentimental thing, I'm sure.
Don't let the higher-ups know you're running a rebel operating system, you might just get canned. What use is running Linux in school anyway, when the students should be learning REAL job skills (I.E. Microsoft Office)?/sarcasm
(Sorry, I have been tainted by the education "industry" when it comes to anything Linux in school).
I've been using Debian 'testing' as a desktop (and a netbook for that matter) for many years now. I used Ubuntu for about 4 years at home and with my business clients (I'm a network engineer), roughly from v6.10 -> 10.04 but switched back because of the "will not fix" developer mentality to those who wanted functional packages from an LTS release. There was always something major that was broken, always with the carrot-on-a-stick, "Just upgrade to the latest release and use PPA from JoeSchmoe" answer when you just wanted to use your computer. It kept me for a while, but it got reeeeal tiring.
Debian has always "just worked" on my desktop. It's also a great LTSP sever, serving my kitchen and livingroom thin clients. With all of the good stuff that the Ubuntu/Canonical folks do getting backported to Debian, I feel like Debian testing is "Ubuntu Stable".
--- thedarkener@c64:~$ steam/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam:/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6)/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam:/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6)/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam:/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6)/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam:/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by/home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) ---
I saw the above post regarding the i386 libs and I was sure that I had already installed them previously (and confirmed with the following:)
--- thedarkener@c64:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk ia32-libs-sdl Place your finger on the fingerprint reader
Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package ia32-libs-sdl thedarkener@c64:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done ia32-libs is already the newest version. ia32-libs-gtk is already the newest version. ---
Perception causes me to believe that this "feature" is a double-edged sword. On the one side, it adds to the whole "social networking" thing. Find friends, recognize friends, connect with friends.
On the other hand, it is a massive crowdsourced facial recognition system that is incredibly difficult to stay away from, even if you refuse to be a part of Facebook (IIRC people can tag you in a picture by typing in your name). It's a f*cking privacy nightmare.
I know who he is. If Alan Cox said, "McDonald's makes the worst hamburger", would you repeat his testimony like the universal truth you believe it is too?
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Shuttleworth claims people that oppose his little project are doing so because of politics in open source, then in the same breath labels everyone who's against Mir "Open Source Tea Party" ?
Fucking hypocrite. You know, I used to love Ubuntu back in the day. At 10.04 I switched back to Debian because I was sick of feeling like I was being led forward on a dog leash. It hasn't changed. Mark hasn't changed, and he thinks he's some sort of open source leader, far beyond the little garden he's planted. There's a whole landscape of different vegitation, man, and you didn't create it all. Stop acting like you did.
I worked for California schools for 4 years as a technical consultant. It hurts me deeply to say, especially since my first son is just starting Kindergarten, that these schools really are going to go with whatever is recommended to them at the highest corporate/political level. I helped bring LTSP and thus Linux to thousands of elementary school kids over this period as a pilot (and after successful pilot, transition from aging Windows PCs in media/computer labs) in 7 schools. It felt so amazing for me to have the honor of exposing this many children to open source software. But, after the acting technoogy director retired, a new one stepped in and quickly pulled the plug on the whole setup, reverting back to Windows.
It's the same at deeply rooted non-profits for kids. I worked for Boys & Girls Clubs in California, doing the same thing - in addition to LTSP, though, we also had Linux on the back-end fileserver and firewall. It was a great setup. Then, we heard that Microsoft suddenly (and unexpectedly) had given them a grant for new PCs, on the condition that Windows was the only OS installed, and they essentially weren't allowed to "tinker" with them.
The RIAA and MPAA are very large and rich corporations. They have that much money to throw at conditioning young children that software is something that comes with many restrictions and cannot be shared freely, modified or "tinkered" with. Schools will go along with it as long as there's a benefit for them. The moral standing of the people at the top of the education system's pyramid aren't exactly the best, from what I've experienced, and I'm sure many of them have very close ties with other "industry" executives. Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Makes me think of "National Lampoon's Senior Trip". Ha!
It floors me how the school can not, at the VERY LEAST, sympathize with the kid and try to fix the issue of the initial bullying. But it seems like they're all still quite tied up in the whole...GO WILDCATS! GO SCHOOL SPIRIT!! WOOOOO!!!! bullshit that runs the school system. Now I want to download the app and go to the school, and "shoot" the ones who put him in juvie.
Now, am I going to get arrested for suggesting that?
+ Give them a hands-on demonstration of setting up a webserver in Linux.
You mean they post lame comments on Internet forums to try and prop up their self-image?
What happens when night falls?
When asked about how his opinion of the surveillance programs have changed, he said his perception of them have not evolved since the story broke worldwide. "What you're not seeing is people actually abusing these programs."
So I guess bypassing the Fourth Amendment doesn't count as abuse.From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_and_seizure#United_States :
"A search occurs when an expectation of privacy that society is prepared to consider reasonable is infringed."
Real Americans aren't paying attention to R vs. D since many years ago. If you believe the consciousness of the majority of the American people align with what you see on your television from the U.S., you're just as ignorant.
'At the end of the day it's about people and trust ... if they misuse the trust that they won't be honest with the American people about all of the ways the NSA is COMPLETELY IGNORING THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, they can cause huge damage. To me. Look at my furrows of worry! I have a lot invested in this ride! Shut them up!'
*facepalm* Oh Bill Hicks, I miss you.
A couple thousand alternative currencies such as Bitcoin started surfacing? What would happen when the economy is completely watered down with different types of currencies just because people started using them as heavily as Bitcoin?
The IRS can "legally" tax barter agreements for their monetary value, just to tax trade.
I'm getting an image of an arrogant, bratty red faced child with their hands out, waiting for their piece of cake.
If Bitcoin can't exist outside of the economic iron fist, then what possibility do normal people have with turning it around?
Reminds me of a quote I heard on Slashdot by a commenter back in 2000...
'Programmers always wonder whether or not they can do something...but hardly ever whether they *should*.'
Applying sales tax to anything BUT the merchendise (i.e. NOT labor of any kind) is labor/income tax. Which, if you've read up on the history of income tax, shluldn't be legal in the first place.
This whole ideal about trickling/sneaking/forcing in legislation regarding either establishing or increasing taxes of any kind is immoral and we should be ashamed of allowing it to get this far.
We can't just prune this tree, we have to cut it down.
There, I said it.
(I am an independent technical consultant in California, so this especially hits home for me..)
I mean, look at our moon and other planets/moons in our solar system. Look at their craters. Look at the craters on our planet. Something hits something else, a peice breaks off and flies toward something else (eventually). Let's say a comet so big hit Earth that gravity from the comet attracts water, bacteria, plantlife, some fish, etc. and then flies off in another direction...carries it somewhere else. If you think about how LONG the universe has been around, this is a scientific certainty that the "building blocks of life" will be carried around and distributed to other planets.
I like to think that the universe has been playing a nonstop game of billiards for billions and billions of years.
I cannot disagree that Ubuntu (and Canonical) have done a good (no, great) job at bringing Linux more into peoples' hearts and minds. To say that Ubuntu is a poster-boy distro, however, would be a crime. Ubuntu stood on the shoulders of Debian to gain its traction, but past the initial push of getting better hardware/driver support, it seems like the roadmap of Ubuntu has been about as scattered as darts thrown by a drunken barfly. A bunch of ambitious "tries" at different angles, with very little attention to actually fixing bugs to maintain their stability/usability ("Won't fix" as new release is out, LTS: Long-term-suffering, ...). I really, really tried loving Ubuntu for the long term, even bet my biggest contract on them to bring LTSP to schools (one of their ambitious "tries" back in the day) but their coordination with outside OSS projects and communities were disappointing to me.
I'm not trying to bash Ubuntu, like I said they have done a lot of good. But I'm typing this on my Debian workstation, which I left to go to Ubuntu for a number of years, and now I'm back. And I couldn't be happier, because I haven't had such a stable system in years =) None the less, congrats on fixing the infamous bug #1 I guess. It is a very sentimental thing, I'm sure.
Don't let the higher-ups know you're running a rebel operating system, you might just get canned. What use is running Linux in school anyway, when the students should be learning REAL job skills (I.E. Microsoft Office)? /sarcasm
(Sorry, I have been tainted by the education "industry" when it comes to anything Linux in school).
Your mom was a pretty good fuck last night, just sayin'...
PLEASE DON'T HIT ME! lol
THANK you.
Hi, 4chan! *waves*
I've been using Debian 'testing' as a desktop (and a netbook for that matter) for many years now. I used Ubuntu for about 4 years at home and with my business clients (I'm a network engineer), roughly from v6.10 -> 10.04 but switched back because of the "will not fix" developer mentality to those who wanted functional packages from an LTS release. There was always something major that was broken, always with the carrot-on-a-stick, "Just upgrade to the latest release and use PPA from JoeSchmoe" answer when you just wanted to use your computer. It kept me for a while, but it got reeeeal tiring.
Debian has always "just worked" on my desktop. It's also a great LTSP sever, serving my kitchen and livingroom thin clients. With all of the good stuff that the Ubuntu/Canonical folks do getting backported to Debian, I feel like Debian testing is "Ubuntu Stable".
(in testing):
--- /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6)
thedarkener@c64:~$ steam
---
I saw the above post regarding the i386 libs and I was sure that I had already installed them previously (and confirmed with the following:)
---
thedarkener@c64:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk ia32-libs-sdl
Place your finger on the fingerprint reader
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package ia32-libs-sdl
thedarkener@c64:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
ia32-libs is already the newest version.
ia32-libs-gtk is already the newest version.
---
Any ideas?
Perception causes me to believe that this "feature" is a double-edged sword. On the one side, it adds to the whole "social networking" thing. Find friends, recognize friends, connect with friends.
On the other hand, it is a massive crowdsourced facial recognition system that is incredibly difficult to stay away from, even if you refuse to be a part of Facebook (IIRC people can tag you in a picture by typing in your name). It's a f*cking privacy nightmare.
But what do you have to hide, huh? *grin....sigh*
Seriously. I think all the Slashbots are just excited to repeat the great word.
I know who he is. If Alan Cox said, "McDonald's makes the worst hamburger", would you repeat his testimony like the universal truth you believe it is too?
What just one person thinks? Think for yourself. Jeebus.
'The man was arrested by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on the island of Saipan'
So lemme get this straight - the Department of Homeland Security spent taxpayer money finding and arresting a software pirate...