Unpopular opinion here but the truth is most people not only do not want to leave but prefer Windows. It is familiar, stable, and works.
It is not Windows 98 dos based crud that crashes as programs do not have have a concept of modern memory management like they once did. It is VMS based NT. Windows 7 works no cell phone Gnome 3 interface. Updates do not break the gui unlike Linux which happens OFTEN. Office has a better gui and is 100% goateed not to misrender as garbage to someone else based on rendering bugs.
No one wants to run a million.php scripts or do engineering things with SPICE. Therefore Unix is a very tiny minority and always will be. It is like fighting for king of the mainframe title today as people moved on to phones. PCs are legacy workhorses which are boring and uncool.
In North Korea it is illegal to own a cell phone. My guess is it is against the law to use the internet too. People who do are friends of Kim or approved by the department of guidance who actually run NK (Not Kim surprisingly). Mostly those authorized to view press or are in the military or work for the government.
Their whole country is a private network where the mothership uses a proxy to monitor you just like the office.
My point was there is no comparative advantage. All you do is cut revenue and gain nothing. Brazil is in a rock and a hard place. I guess tourism and oranges might be its only comparative advantage.
In the 21st century you are supposed to produce cheaper as we race to the bottom are go out of business. This is why we mine the ore here ship it to China for smelting and then ship it back. It is very cheap.
So Brazil will give a discount with the tariff if they produce locally. I guess it is blackmail.
Kind of hard to debate to go more free when your neighbors are vastly more poor with zero taxes. Wouldn't it be easier to go Uruguay or Venezuela?
The US too lost and still the middle class never has recovered from NAFTA. Wages have not increased in 20 years regardless of inflation! The US can argue it will benefit CEOs and lobbyists as the companies are at least owned here. Not true for Brazil so cutting taxes would only cut your revenue as nothing is based there.
When I lived in Alaska I could tell how cold it was based on the time it took for my snots to freeze up my nose.
7F is when it starts. By 0F or -24C it freeze instantly. Same with my Windows fogging up after I leave my heated garage. Usually in the lower 48 and lower Canada this would change based on humidity but at sub zero temperatures it fogged at the right time every time based on the current heat as it was dry
The os boots almost instantly. I have 500 gigs of accelerated storage and not 4. The speed gains are latency and not bandwidth. So the extra bandwidth won't offer an improvement. With your ram disk you still wait for it to load in your tiny ram disk. Ssd is permanent. Until you use one you can't comment.
Wayland is just like X. A framework to build gui stuff on. It is X compatible too and supports the protocol.
What is the big deal?
Infact I remember something called the Unix Haters Manual which has a large section about X. I remember X back in 1998. It is a POS! It took 70% of the ram in my system.
You all hate it and think it is GOD because you are reading this on an i5 with gigs of ram. But trust me no openGl, true type fonts, 100% of all ram in a 8 meg system, wrong XFree86.conf file meant fried monitors, etc. I am in favor of gutting it but I know after the hate with SystemD Slashdot has become the ultraconservative place even if it has nothing to do with it.
All these things are sooo 20th century. It is skuemorphic and uses real world objects and menus to display things. Oh bad bad bro from my art professor.
I want my cell phone interface. It needs to be all white and flat and only 1 app at a time man. I just can't handle this and XP. It makes me wanna cry as computers really are not calculators that do all these complicated things. They are an appliance!
Well the newer cpus are like World of Warcraft upgrades with stats. A little percentage points here and there add up quickly overtime.
A core2Dou speed per core (grandparent mentioned 4 core) is 1/6 the speed. I am reading 30,000 mips. An i7 has 150,000 mips. Most were just dual core so yes there is certainly a speed boast with a modern processor even if they are gradual every other year.
That was true with sheep in 1999 when most just got a computer. They grew up stopped using IE 6 and AOL and Windows improved as well.
Today they want Office because it works well and only Office formats documents just right. Like IE 6 there are margin and rendering issues when you pass sales material or resumes to other clients. If you dare say USE PDF STUPID then you won my argument. Why bother to save in PDF? It means to the average Joe that this software is buggy.
Ubuntu is very cutting edge and about as Stable as the Windows 10 pre-releases that non technical users scream in support forums when shit breaks. Windows 7 already works and is stable and has their apps.
Why change? What they have works and no the DOS based Windows 98 you remember where it stank, crashed, and was insecure is long dead as VMS based NT took over.
LibreOffice and Linux are made for those who hate Windows and just try to catch up to it. FreeBSD is for those who love Unix in which I am a part of but know the desktop is not where it belongs.
Sounds like these users need to educate those still hoping Linux will finally win the desktop. It is gone now and the phone is where it is at now. No Android is not Linux either.
Former Linux and FreeBSD user here. I still run it in a VM to this day.
Windows 7 won. It wont go apeshit during an update. Apps work. Guis are not crippled. Libre Office is not MS Office and a bad slow clone if that where documents wont format right and look unprofessional to clients and and other companies etc. XOrg wont break drivers on updates particularly.
I agree with Hairyfeet not one has passed the his challenge where it will work forever and grandma can use it easily and have it just work. It may or may not work with her printer and cheap hardware then it will fail.
I am not a troll at all. I gave up on Linux as it was too buggy and beta quality unless I ran CentOS compared to Windows. It is not 1998 anymore and people somehow believe folks are screaming to be free and are stuck with insecure DOS based unstable operating systems with poor applications. That is simply not true nor has it been for over a decade now. Windows 7 on a desktop works fine and these users I know would scream to have Microsoft back on their systems if I dare put Linux on it. It is a geek and server OS as far as I am concerned hence VM material.
Only a matter of time before these Atoms blow the lid off 8 core cpus sadly.
I would hate an Intel only world and I wonder how it survives. Haswel era I5s can easily outdo the 8 core as they are 50% slower per core making it an i3 competitor. Now another 22% boast would put this AMDs premier in Celeron territory.
As we saw with Firefox and Windows 8 is that change for the sake of change is bad. Especially in a corporate environment.
You all do know the professional slow releases of Windows will go EOL every 2 to 3 years right? Be prepaired to do nothing but upgrade all day at large corps so hipsters can have their latest and greatest
I read just last night about someone getting a $599 Alienware steam box and put it agaisn't the xbox ONE. Not even a real comparison.
Instead of buying a $400 card for Battlefield 4 or Crysis you can get the same experience for a whole console for cheaper! You can debate with me about specs and of course a $1200 machine can squash it easily but games like Shadow of Mordor require 6 gigs of video ram (not system ram) to even run at 4k?? The 399 xbox one starts it right up.
Until this changes which it is heading in this direction the consoles offer the best value if you have a limit of $400.
Microsoft could monetize it hell of a lot more by taking a cut from the app store with the extra Indie apps.
The extra apps would give it a leg up over the more proprietary PS4 which would again return the cash back to Microsoft. Monetizing off a few developers is dumb and costs more than it gains.
If I were at Microsoft I would make universal apps for Windows 10 and the xbox SDK apps cross compatible in the app store. Imagine the marketshare and the gamers who are clinging onto Windows 7 for life now migrate over. Android makes it free for app developers and that is what set it off.
Not to mention obsolescence. Do you really want to fix the connection from that lcd screen to the dsp in that 512 Meg XP pentiumM laptop? My fathers bulky 720p mirror based TV is not CRT yet isn't flat screen either circa 2003 went out. It would cost $400 to fix. Worth it over a newer 1080p? No
My point is it's not the doctor getting someone sick. It is sone one taking advantage... actually many parties all colluding because what is your life is worth? Break an arm? Hmm it is coded now as a surgery so that casts that was $200 is billed $2000! Not your problem? Oh my insurance past the cost onto in a higher premium oh and enjoy those high taxes as thry bill medicaid too. Hospital president buys a Lamborghini for being so smart with his bonus! But a poor Mom using food stamps? Socialism hang her!
But like these criminals they need their word intact so desperate have to pay.
You know if it was someone sick and is in dire need of an expensive procedure we would call these guys jobs creators or insurance professionals. If it is a computer it is a criminal. If it is a banker well it is just the free market working and it is the savers fault for etc.
The difference between the 2 is not much. When I was out of a job for awhile my family pressured me to work for a payday company. I refused to rip people off 200% interest. I have my integrity and ethics. True integrity not great as I did not have a means to pay my bills but that doesn't mean I would harm others and be an enabler for those who do.
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Yeah because Java is so much more secure and mobile friendly
Thank XP and corporate users.
IE 8 is the worlds most popular browser as a result
Unpopular opinion here but the truth is most people not only do not want to leave but prefer Windows. It is familiar, stable, and works.
It is not Windows 98 dos based crud that crashes as programs do not have have a concept of modern memory management like they once did. It is VMS based NT. Windows 7 works no cell phone Gnome 3 interface. Updates do not break the gui unlike Linux which happens OFTEN. Office has a better gui and is 100% goateed not to misrender as garbage to someone else based on rendering bugs.
No one wants to run a million .php scripts or do engineering things with SPICE. Therefore Unix is a very tiny minority and always will be. It is like fighting for king of the mainframe title today as people moved on to phones. PCs are legacy workhorses which are boring and uncool.
Windows 8 has HyperV. It is the new VM they want to include.
You are a sex offender by just having it. Therefore already a criminal and assisting organized crime.
Liability is too much for me
In North Korea it is illegal to own a cell phone. My guess is it is against the law to use the internet too. People who do are friends of Kim or approved by the department of guidance who actually run NK (Not Kim surprisingly). Mostly those authorized to view press or are in the military or work for the government.
Their whole country is a private network where the mothership uses a proxy to monitor you just like the office.
My point was there is no comparative advantage. All you do is cut revenue and gain nothing. Brazil is in a rock and a hard place. I guess tourism and oranges might be its only comparative advantage.
In the 21st century you are supposed to produce cheaper as we race to the bottom are go out of business. This is why we mine the ore here ship it to China for smelting and then ship it back. It is very cheap.
So Brazil will give a discount with the tariff if they produce locally. I guess it is blackmail.
You've never tried importing electronics into Brazil before have you? Over 50% in tariffs must be paid.
But get rid of them and you loose anyway as you can't produce as cheap as our neighbors
Kind of hard to debate to go more free when your neighbors are vastly more poor with zero taxes. Wouldn't it be easier to go Uruguay or Venezuela?
The US too lost and still the middle class never has recovered from NAFTA. Wages have not increased in 20 years regardless of inflation! The US can argue it will benefit CEOs and lobbyists as the companies are at least owned here. Not true for Brazil so cutting taxes would only cut your revenue as nothing is based there.
When I lived in Alaska I could tell how cold it was based on the time it took for my snots to freeze up my nose.
7F is when it starts. By 0F or -24C it freeze instantly. Same with my Windows fogging up after I leave my heated garage. Usually in the lower 48 and lower Canada this would change based on humidity but at sub zero temperatures it fogged at the right time every time based on the current heat as it was dry
You miss the point.
The os boots almost instantly. I have 500 gigs of accelerated storage and not 4. The speed gains are latency and not bandwidth. So the extra bandwidth won't offer an improvement. With your ram disk you still wait for it to load in your tiny ram disk. Ssd is permanent. Until you use one you can't comment.
Wayland is just like X. A framework to build gui stuff on. It is X compatible too and supports the protocol.
What is the big deal?
Infact I remember something called the Unix Haters Manual which has a large section about X. I remember X back in 1998. It is a POS! It took 70% of the ram in my system.
You all hate it and think it is GOD because you are reading this on an i5 with gigs of ram. But trust me no openGl, true type fonts, 100% of all ram in a 8 meg system, wrong XFree86.conf file meant fried monitors, etc. I am in favor of gutting it but I know after the hate with SystemD Slashdot has become the ultraconservative place even if it has nothing to do with it.
All these things are sooo 20th century. It is skuemorphic and uses real world objects and menus to display things. Oh bad bad bro from my art professor.
I want my cell phone interface. It needs to be all white and flat and only 1 app at a time man. I just can't handle this and XP. It makes me wanna cry as computers really are not calculators that do all these complicated things. They are an appliance!
Well the newer cpus are like World of Warcraft upgrades with stats. A little percentage points here and there add up quickly overtime.
A core2Dou speed per core (grandparent mentioned 4 core) is 1/6 the speed. I am reading 30,000 mips. An i7 has 150,000 mips. Most were just dual core so yes there is certainly a speed boast with a modern processor even if they are gradual every other year.
That was true with sheep in 1999 when most just got a computer. They grew up stopped using IE 6 and AOL and Windows improved as well.
Today they want Office because it works well and only Office formats documents just right. Like IE 6 there are margin and rendering issues when you pass sales material or resumes to other clients. If you dare say USE PDF STUPID then you won my argument. Why bother to save in PDF? It means to the average Joe that this software is buggy.
Ubuntu is very cutting edge and about as Stable as the Windows 10 pre-releases that non technical users scream in support forums when shit breaks. Windows 7 already works and is stable and has their apps.
Why change? What they have works and no the DOS based Windows 98 you remember where it stank, crashed, and was insecure is long dead as VMS based NT took over.
LibreOffice and Linux are made for those who hate Windows and just try to catch up to it. FreeBSD is for those who love Unix in which I am a part of but know the desktop is not where it belongs.
Sounds like these users need to educate those still hoping Linux will finally win the desktop. It is gone now and the phone is where it is at now. No Android is not Linux either.
Uh Yeah
Former Linux and FreeBSD user here. I still run it in a VM to this day.
Windows 7 won. It wont go apeshit during an update. Apps work. Guis are not crippled. Libre Office is not MS Office and a bad slow clone if that where documents wont format right and look unprofessional to clients and and other companies etc. XOrg wont break drivers on updates particularly.
I agree with Hairyfeet not one has passed the his challenge where it will work forever and grandma can use it easily and have it just work. It may or may not work with her printer and cheap hardware then it will fail.
I am not a troll at all. I gave up on Linux as it was too buggy and beta quality unless I ran CentOS compared to Windows. It is not 1998 anymore and people somehow believe folks are screaming to be free and are stuck with insecure DOS based unstable operating systems with poor applications. That is simply not true nor has it been for over a decade now. Windows 7 on a desktop works fine and these users I know would scream to have Microsoft back on their systems if I dare put Linux on it. It is a geek and server OS as far as I am concerned hence VM material.
Only a matter of time before these Atoms blow the lid off 8 core cpus sadly.
I would hate an Intel only world and I wonder how it survives. Haswel era I5s can easily outdo the 8 core as they are 50% slower per core making it an i3 competitor. Now another 22% boast would put this AMDs premier in Celeron territory.
As we saw with Firefox and Windows 8 is that change for the sake of change is bad. Especially in a corporate environment.
You all do know the professional slow releases of Windows will go EOL every 2 to 3 years right? Be prepaired to do nothing but upgrade all day at large corps so hipsters can have their latest and greatest
I read just last night about someone getting a $599 Alienware steam box and put it agaisn't the xbox ONE. Not even a real comparison.
Instead of buying a $400 card for Battlefield 4 or Crysis you can get the same experience for a whole console for cheaper! You can debate with me about specs and of course a $1200 machine can squash it easily but games like Shadow of Mordor require 6 gigs of video ram (not system ram) to even run at 4k?? The 399 xbox one starts it right up.
Until this changes which it is heading in this direction the consoles offer the best value if you have a limit of $400.
Microsoft could monetize it hell of a lot more by taking a cut from the app store with the extra Indie apps.
The extra apps would give it a leg up over the more proprietary PS4 which would again return the cash back to Microsoft. Monetizing off a few developers is dumb and costs more than it gains.
If I were at Microsoft I would make universal apps for Windows 10 and the xbox SDK apps cross compatible in the app store. Imagine the marketshare and the gamers who are clinging onto Windows 7 for life now migrate over. Android makes it free for app developers and that is what set it off.
Why don't you ask Ford or GM how great that strategy was in the 1970s and earlier 1980s
Not to mention obsolescence. Do you really want to fix the connection from that lcd screen to the dsp in that 512 Meg XP pentiumM laptop? My fathers bulky 720p mirror based TV is not CRT yet isn't flat screen either circa 2003 went out. It would cost $400 to fix. Worth it over a newer 1080p? No
It deletes volume shadow copies and modifies startup to run. It would some administrative access
My point is it's not the doctor getting someone sick. It is sone one taking advantage ... actually many parties all colluding because what is your life is worth? Break an arm? Hmm it is coded now as a surgery so that casts that was $200 is billed $2000! Not your problem? Oh my insurance past the cost onto in a higher premium oh and enjoy those high taxes as thry bill medicaid too. Hospital president buys a Lamborghini for being so smart with his bonus! But a poor Mom using food stamps? Socialism hang her!
But like these criminals they need their word intact so desperate have to pay.
Bankers too are no different and hurt everyone.
You know if it was someone sick and is in dire need of an expensive procedure we would call these guys jobs creators or insurance professionals. If it is a computer it is a criminal. If it is a banker well it is just the free market working and it is the savers fault for etc.
The difference between the 2 is not much. When I was out of a job for awhile my family pressured me to work for a payday company. I refused to rip people off 200% interest. I have my integrity and ethics. True integrity not great as I did not have a means to pay my bills but that doesn't mean I would harm others and be an enabler for those who do.