Juniper seems popular with the non c-suite folks. It is faster and much easier and cheaper to manage. But they are not cisco so they are limited to MDF data centers mostly.
Let's read from the article "PowerShell Core from Microsoft is now available for Linux as a Snap. Built on the.NET Framework, PowerShell is an open source task-based command-line shell and scripting language with the goal of being the ubiquitous language for managing hybrid cloud assets. It is designed specifically for system administrators and power-users to rapidly automate the administration of multiple operating systems and the processes related to the applications that run on those operating systems. Says Canonical"
So the maker of Ubuntu clearly stated Bash was inadaquite.
Yep..too bad Oracle got ahold of them. Of course, Sunâ(TM)s âoegive Java, NFS, ZFS, and Solaris x64 away, but make money on ultra-reliable-but-low-performance hardwareâ strategy wasnâ(TM)t really a winner, either.
Well the good news is FreeBSD got it before the sale to Oracle and has a license and contributed code. It is released under BSD so NetBSD can use it and port it. BUt and a big but... after the shit Oracle pulled with Java saying we own all clean room implementations I could see them going awoll on them.
I think porting USB 3 is much easier than porting dtrace or ZFS so there may not be enough developers and a budget to port these from FreeBSD. In general those who need performance and a Unix like OS have switched to Linux a long time ago. FreeBSD is also more appropriate for modern server grade hardware and support with these things.
Both Amazon, Azure, and Kubernetes all have apis for configuration, deployment, and testing that are object based. I personally think this is why Python is growing in IT. It is folks who find bash too limiting and have to resort to Python to work with these platforms and tools.
PowerShell will help but I am in favor of a new Unix scripting language that can do objects. I have a feeling the same people who flipped over SystemD won't allow that to happen though. But that is another topic.
As you can tell I think Bash was great for it's time and can do some cool things but many things in the Linux world are moving too fast (like Gnome, pulse audio) or are moving way to slow and are behind.
Citation of modern CPU performance is listed here. My so called ancient i7 4770K from 2014 can do 137,000,000,000 instructions per second! Probably even more as it is overclocked to 4.2 ghz with ram OCed to 2400 mhz. This is not server hardware by a long shot.
Come on this is 2018 not 1978 where peaking and poking with syntax sugar in assembly and using 2 digits instead of 4 to save space is not important anymore!
Sure the old neckbears will say it is art and go one and on etc on how bad things are today and that it should be better. But in reality is our employers pay us to get shit done the quickest and get it out to market.
Python can do wonders, it's fast to develop, it's well understand, and for heaven sake better for the math/finance people than VBA in Excel. We all have SuperComputers and if you need insane math you can use the GPU functions in some apis where it is another supercomputer of level of trillions of floats per second of data!
No one wants to save bytes in C in 2018 nor cares becauses old timers running some benchmark. As stated previously geeks were shocked in 2000 when Java was a hit on servers citing how sloooowww it was. It turns out on server loads it is SQL & I/O bottlenecks anyway.
If Python was so horrible and slow then why is it popular with IOT in embedded devices?
Not according to the guys with MBAs. Only managers have talent of course and each employee is a black box with fixed production output measurable by Excel and MS Project. Just ask any of them? If they don't add value then go cheap and cash in
Not to mention Macs are what the cool kids in college use these days. Python is included by default with MacOSX and now included by default in Visual Studio as well.
I see Python used in the Linux camp for scripting things. I got into a tiny flamewar in another article on PowerShell for Linux on what MS is creating a snap for it and it has to due with half of your servers being hosted in Amazon E3 or Azure. Python also is an excellent scripting resource if you use AMazon E3 apis and want to integrate it to your bash scripting or PowerShell workflow.
Python is object based so sometimes it is needed to do extra tasks and customization. Sure there is puppet but for simple things it is nice to an API to do things.
Perl 18 years ago started to pick up some news as the new hottness outside of Java here on Slashdot but it never took off for a variety of reasons. Python is also easy to whip something together and is used by people in Finance who are tired of VBA as well.
In addition Visual Studio 2015 and 2017 also include Python and for the 90% in the win32 world if it's not in VS it's not there:-) But that is part of the popularity as well.
An atypical reaction includes focus which it does do.
Unfortunately, those of us on ADHD also get the nasty side effects too the article talks about. But starting a task is what helps. My ADHD is so bad my apartment is a mess half the time and I barely even cook. On Adderall it was squeky clean and I was learning new recipes and felt energy not to get overwhelmed on the simpliests tasks starting.
Unfortunately, it is true the side effects were too bad. I had to quit taking it as I would be fired if I took it again and started acting aggressively and talking faster than an auctioneer at work.
It is a complete other level. The closest I can say is it is like crack. You feel an enormous high ephoria and a rush of energy.
I realized it was dangerous when I took and was cautious to take a half child's dose as I do not want to get high or addicted but just be able to focus and get on through my work day quickly and have generally life improvements with focus on what I know I need to do.
Caffeine wakes you up a little and drives anxiety if you are stressed but it is not the same.
No you can't. I have ADHD bad. I can not just simple do something and stay focused as easily as a normal person. It just won't happen.
Yes Adderal helps greatly. Unfortunately, it is a nasty bugger that is addictive and got me fired from a previous job as I blew my lid and almost assaulted a coworker as one of the side effects are violent tendancies and my patience grows thin.
FYI I am not a violent person like some men are but I can't take that shit unfortunately and do not want to get high or feel like I am running 1,000 mph. I just want to be able to focus and have the day go by quick and be focus and be disciplined enough for life improvements when I am not at work
The fact that you have to use a third party tool because bash doesn't even support objects is breathtaking. It's 2018 and times change as do the needs of IT.
I know more than just Windows and I am not saying that Powershell is a gift from the Gods and is the end all be all of scripting. I am just saying people here assume Unix is superior because it just is and the only way is a text file way and that 40 year old technology is the best because it's always been that way.
Init was replaced by SystemD because in the modern world sys-init was not cloud, container, nor virtual ready. I just realized the haters here hated it because they couldn't use their text based tools like grep for reading log files. Let's forget the logs in SystemD are indexed already and are secure to prevent tampering because you can't write bash or use grep.
Powershell was ported by Microsoft as System admins needed flexibility to use Azure for their Linux containers and virtual machines.
Explain then how to automate a few tasks on 100 Linux servers some on premise and some in the cloud without having to log into each one?
Since Powershell is object based you can do more with a for each statement for 100 servers and use custom apis to work the magic without an expensive 3rd party tool. You can do a PSremote session if you want too or just use Azure RM or snmp without having to touch each server.
Are you finished migrating to Azure yet that the CIO wanted? Oh yeah we need a convenient way to DevOps your Linux app for the Windows Systems Admins that they are familiar with that integrated well with Azure and is object based for our needs, not text based which won't work.
Thanks and could you also Dev ops some on premise Windows Servers as well? We know you like Linux and that is fine but make it happen in your Linux scripting environment?
Easy object based systems like Azure and Windows servers where everything is an object, not a string or text file.
PS is not a POS. It's just different as something like cygwin is not useful to do much on Windows in comparison as a result. This is welcome for DevOps and System Admins who manages multiple systems.
If the market is effecient and there are not enough qualified workers willing to work for your wage and conditions then prices will rise.
You can't have it both ways. But that is good for you. It's good because tight supply means customers are pounding on your door with money in their fists. Sure your expenses go up but your income does too as it was caused by lots of demand from sales due to the good efficient economy
That actually hurts them long term. If everyone and their brother since Reagan busted the air traffic controllers union and strike out gets paid less and gets automated then no one will be able to afford to eat at their restaurants.
The market has winners and loosers for sure, but the more efficient the market is the more everyone benefits even if the owners have to raise the wages and working conditions it means he will have more customers with more disposable income to spend which he doesn't see.
I can see expensive executives and senior software architects in order to protect IP, trade secrets, and less wages, but fast food workers? Talk about greed and if these poor saps didn't have life as hard as it already is but what to save a few dollars an hour?
Talk about being kicked when you are down.
I suppose this means the minimum wage is below the market demand already and the owners are just finding loop holes to artificially manipulate the supply/demand curve to their benefit.
It's funny these owners in the States are far right wing and are Free Market Absolutist when it benefits them. The minute they offer below what the Free Market will bear they cry uncle and go out of their way with lawyers about how unfair it is.
I was about to learn GoogleMaps for a community project I have been thinking about. Since it won't generate revenue but will generate lots of hits on mobile and desktop users this means my plans to learn more about the GoogleMap API are out the Window.
BingMaps and MapQuest look very unprofessional but shit. Damn it
It seems ludicrously seld-defeating in the long run. Most fast food joints require a not insignificant amount of training, so if you're targeting your hiring towards those with no experience, sure you can offer a lower wage, but then the training time is extended, so you still end up paying more money, both for the training period and in the time it takes the new worker to ramp up to something approaching normal productivity. In the meantime your customers get pissed off at poor service, and that will hit your sales.
Honestly I wished I lived in an area like that. I'd open a fast food joint, lure away their experienced staff with higher wages and benefits, and while they flounder because of a moronic policy whose only purpose seems to be to suppress wages regardless of the ill effects on every other aspect of the bottom line, I'd have happier and more productive employees and happier customers.
This kind of "keep the wages low" mindset works when unemployment is high and you can abuse your employees with little fear they'll walk. But even in that situation, creating a demoralized workforce will still lower productivity and customer satisfaction, and will likely keep retention low, meaning training costs go up.
The big chains will beat you. McDonalds INVENTED automation and lower middle class chef jobs were the first to take the cut with the introductions of franchises. No training needed like you said. Follow pictures of assembly and have metal pans of ingredients and an order to do something repetitively over and over again. If the employee is upset or not as long as he moves his hands fast product comes out in massive numbers. Morale makes no difference. Meat comes pre-marinated. Vegatables come presliced from Mexico. Just load and go as no chefs are needed for great recipes anymore.
Your restaurant will be too expensive, slow, and inefficient as the untrained workers across the street will outproduce you. At Amazon people piss in bottles to meet their quotas and workers hate working there understandably but Amazon keeps going.
The only thing that will stop this is... gulp... evil government socialism and unions. Until demand for expensive fast food and a less supply of workers become available owners will abuse their staff and squeeze the most profits for themselves. Why not?
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Juniper seems popular with the non c-suite folks. It is faster and much easier and cheaper to manage. But they are not cisco so they are limited to MDF data centers mostly.
Let's read from the article "PowerShell Core from Microsoft is now available for Linux as a Snap. Built on the .NET Framework, PowerShell is an open source task-based command-line shell and scripting language with the goal of being the ubiquitous language for managing hybrid cloud assets. It is designed specifically for system administrators and power-users to rapidly automate the administration of multiple operating systems and the processes related to the applications that run on those operating systems. Says Canonical"
So the maker of Ubuntu clearly stated Bash was inadaquite.
Yep..too bad Oracle got ahold of them. Of course, Sunâ(TM)s âoegive Java, NFS, ZFS, and Solaris x64 away, but make money on ultra-reliable-but-low-performance hardwareâ strategy wasnâ(TM)t really a winner, either.
Well the good news is FreeBSD got it before the sale to Oracle and has a license and contributed code. It is released under BSD so NetBSD can use it and port it. BUt and a big but ... after the shit Oracle pulled with Java saying we own all clean room implementations I could see them going awoll on them.
I think porting USB 3 is much easier than porting dtrace or ZFS so there may not be enough developers and a budget to port these from FreeBSD. In general those who need performance and a Unix like OS have switched to Linux a long time ago. FreeBSD is also more appropriate for modern server grade hardware and support with these things.
Both Amazon, Azure, and Kubernetes all have apis for configuration, deployment, and testing that are object based. I personally think this is why Python is growing in IT. It is folks who find bash too limiting and have to resort to Python to work with these platforms and tools.
PowerShell will help but I am in favor of a new Unix scripting language that can do objects. I have a feeling the same people who flipped over SystemD won't allow that to happen though. But that is another topic.
As you can tell I think Bash was great for it's time and can do some cool things but many things in the Linux world are moving too fast (like Gnome, pulse audio) or are moving way to slow and are behind.
I want to see this mysterious Python program that gobbles up 4,000 megs of ram that is standard on low end Pcs today?
Citation of modern CPU performance is listed here. My so called ancient i7 4770K from 2014 can do 137,000,000,000 instructions per second! Probably even more as it is overclocked to 4.2 ghz with ram OCed to 2400 mhz. This is not server hardware by a long shot.
Come on this is 2018 not 1978 where peaking and poking with syntax sugar in assembly and using 2 digits instead of 4 to save space is not important anymore!
Sure the old neckbears will say it is art and go one and on etc on how bad things are today and that it should be better. But in reality is our employers pay us to get shit done the quickest and get it out to market.
Python can do wonders, it's fast to develop, it's well understand, and for heaven sake better for the math/finance people than VBA in Excel. We all have SuperComputers and if you need insane math you can use the GPU functions in some apis where it is another supercomputer of level of trillions of floats per second of data!
No one wants to save bytes in C in 2018 nor cares becauses old timers running some benchmark. As stated previously geeks were shocked in 2000 when Java was a hit on servers citing how sloooowww it was. It turns out on server loads it is SQL & I/O bottlenecks anyway.
If Python was so horrible and slow then why is it popular with IOT in embedded devices?
There is no such thing as "cheap talent."
Not according to the guys with MBAs. Only managers have talent of course and each employee is a black box with fixed production output measurable by Excel and MS Project. Just ask any of them? If they don't add value then go cheap and cash in
Not to mention Macs are what the cool kids in college use these days. Python is included by default with MacOSX and now included by default in Visual Studio as well.
Network, Datalink, or physical are the bottom 3 layers. I guess there is erlang if you're nuts?
I see Python used in the Linux camp for scripting things. I got into a tiny flamewar in another article on PowerShell for Linux on what MS is creating a snap for it and it has to due with half of your servers being hosted in Amazon E3 or Azure. Python also is an excellent scripting resource if you use AMazon E3 apis and want to integrate it to your bash scripting or PowerShell workflow.
Python is object based so sometimes it is needed to do extra tasks and customization. Sure there is puppet but for simple things it is nice to an API to do things.
Perl 18 years ago started to pick up some news as the new hottness outside of Java here on Slashdot but it never took off for a variety of reasons. Python is also easy to whip something together and is used by people in Finance who are tired of VBA as well.
In addition Visual Studio 2015 and 2017 also include Python and for the 90% in the win32 world if it's not in VS it's not there :-) But that is part of the popularity as well.
Easy. An accountant bean counter got a dinner from Infosys or Tata and promised and he nearly shit his pants at the cost savings.
The Indian salesmen promised him a nice 6 fig bonus for being so smart ...
Cisco doesn't hire Americans and always goes for cheap talent to drive the share price up
An atypical reaction includes focus which it does do.
Unfortunately, those of us on ADHD also get the nasty side effects too the article talks about. But starting a task is what helps. My ADHD is so bad my apartment is a mess half the time and I barely even cook. On Adderall it was squeky clean and I was learning new recipes and felt energy not to get overwhelmed on the simpliests tasks starting.
Unfortunately, it is true the side effects were too bad. I had to quit taking it as I would be fired if I took it again and started acting aggressively and talking faster than an auctioneer at work.
It is a complete other level. The closest I can say is it is like crack. You feel an enormous high ephoria and a rush of energy.
I realized it was dangerous when I took and was cautious to take a half child's dose as I do not want to get high or addicted but just be able to focus and get on through my work day quickly and have generally life improvements with focus on what I know I need to do.
Caffeine wakes you up a little and drives anxiety if you are stressed but it is not the same.
No you can't. I have ADHD bad. I can not just simple do something and stay focused as easily as a normal person. It just won't happen.
Yes Adderal helps greatly. Unfortunately, it is a nasty bugger that is addictive and got me fired from a previous job as I blew my lid and almost assaulted a coworker as one of the side effects are violent tendancies and my patience grows thin.
FYI I am not a violent person like some men are but I can't take that shit unfortunately and do not want to get high or feel like I am running 1,000 mph. I just want to be able to focus and have the day go by quick and be focus and be disciplined enough for life improvements when I am not at work
The fact that you have to use a third party tool because bash doesn't even support objects is breathtaking. It's 2018 and times change as do the needs of IT.
I know more than just Windows and I am not saying that Powershell is a gift from the Gods and is the end all be all of scripting. I am just saying people here assume Unix is superior because it just is and the only way is a text file way and that 40 year old technology is the best because it's always been that way.
Init was replaced by SystemD because in the modern world sys-init was not cloud, container, nor virtual ready. I just realized the haters here hated it because they couldn't use their text based tools like grep for reading log files. Let's forget the logs in SystemD are indexed already and are secure to prevent tampering because you can't write bash or use grep.
Powershell was ported by Microsoft as System admins needed flexibility to use Azure for their Linux containers and virtual machines.
Explain then how to automate a few tasks on 100 Linux servers some on premise and some in the cloud without having to log into each one?
Since Powershell is object based you can do more with a for each statement for 100 servers and use custom apis to work the magic without an expensive 3rd party tool. You can do a PSremote session if you want too or just use Azure RM or snmp without having to touch each server.
How do you ask sed and grep your Azure and Amazon containers on the cloud?
Microsoft has released and opensourced
NET for Linux time ago so your concerns are outdated.
Hi Devslash0 this is your boss posting.
Are you finished migrating to Azure yet that the CIO wanted? Oh yeah we need a convenient way to DevOps your Linux app for the Windows Systems Admins that they are familiar with that integrated well with Azure and is object based for our needs, not text based which won't work.
Thanks and could you also Dev ops some on premise Windows Servers as well? We know you like Linux and that is fine but make it happen in your Linux scripting environment?
Thanks
Easy object based systems like Azure and Windows servers where everything is an object, not a string or text file.
PS is not a POS. It's just different as something like cygwin is not useful to do much on Windows in comparison as a result. This is welcome for DevOps and System Admins who manages multiple systems.
If the market is effecient and there are not enough qualified workers willing to work for your wage and conditions then prices will rise.
You can't have it both ways. But that is good for you. It's good because tight supply means customers are pounding on your door with money in their fists. Sure your expenses go up but your income does too as it was caused by lots of demand from sales due to the good efficient economy
That actually hurts them long term. If everyone and their brother since Reagan busted the air traffic controllers union and strike out gets paid less and gets automated then no one will be able to afford to eat at their restaurants.
The market has winners and loosers for sure, but the more efficient the market is the more everyone benefits even if the owners have to raise the wages and working conditions it means he will have more customers with more disposable income to spend which he doesn't see.
I can see expensive executives and senior software architects in order to protect IP, trade secrets, and less wages, but fast food workers? Talk about greed and if these poor saps didn't have life as hard as it already is but what to save a few dollars an hour?
Talk about being kicked when you are down.
I suppose this means the minimum wage is below the market demand already and the owners are just finding loop holes to artificially manipulate the supply/demand curve to their benefit.
It's funny these owners in the States are far right wing and are Free Market Absolutist when it benefits them. The minute they offer below what the Free Market will bear they cry uncle and go out of their way with lawyers about how unfair it is.
I was about to learn GoogleMaps for a community project I have been thinking about. Since it won't generate revenue but will generate lots of hits on mobile and desktop users this means my plans to learn more about the GoogleMap API are out the Window.
BingMaps and MapQuest look very unprofessional but shit. Damn it
It seems ludicrously seld-defeating in the long run. Most fast food joints require a not insignificant amount of training, so if you're targeting your hiring towards those with no experience, sure you can offer a lower wage, but then the training time is extended, so you still end up paying more money, both for the training period and in the time it takes the new worker to ramp up to something approaching normal productivity. In the meantime your customers get pissed off at poor service, and that will hit your sales.
Honestly I wished I lived in an area like that. I'd open a fast food joint, lure away their experienced staff with higher wages and benefits, and while they flounder because of a moronic policy whose only purpose seems to be to suppress wages regardless of the ill effects on every other aspect of the bottom line, I'd have happier and more productive employees and happier customers.
This kind of "keep the wages low" mindset works when unemployment is high and you can abuse your employees with little fear they'll walk. But even in that situation, creating a demoralized workforce will still lower productivity and customer satisfaction, and will likely keep retention low, meaning training costs go up.
The big chains will beat you. McDonalds INVENTED automation and lower middle class chef jobs were the first to take the cut with the introductions of franchises. No training needed like you said. Follow pictures of assembly and have metal pans of ingredients and an order to do something repetitively over and over again. If the employee is upset or not as long as he moves his hands fast product comes out in massive numbers. Morale makes no difference. Meat comes pre-marinated. Vegatables come presliced from Mexico. Just load and go as no chefs are needed for great recipes anymore.
Your restaurant will be too expensive, slow, and inefficient as the untrained workers across the street will outproduce you. At Amazon people piss in bottles to meet their quotas and workers hate working there understandably but Amazon keeps going.
The only thing that will stop this is ... gulp ... evil government socialism and unions. Until demand for expensive fast food and a less supply of workers become available owners will abuse their staff and squeeze the most profits for themselves. Why not?