I know what I am doing and I am a senior tech
Unless things radically changed the McAfee scanner still runs even with their uninstaller if you use a process monitor from sysinternals. The dll files are replaced after an install that can't ne undone even with a restore
So no emergency to blow $30,000 of lost productivity every single employee to save $500 in electricity costs to run on the weekend?!
Also why the performance issue!! ya ya McAfee sucks but I have never seen thus. Either your team still has Pentium IIIs with 256 megs of ram in all XP/IE 6 glory or something is not set right?! I have never seen this and shows mass incompetence
I would quit if you have enough experience as if upper management had any brains IT will be outsourced if they are that bad and the cio untouchable.
No amount of "bunker" is going to save you because most of North America will be knocked over and/or on fire. Even if you get out (as youll be under feet of hot ash) there will be no place to go, no way to get there, the grounds itself will be baren for a dozen years like Mt St Hellen's.
Listen to you, Mr. glass-half-empty.
Actually these 2 graphs ya ya strange site show past eruption damage. People as far away as Houston and LA would die.
It is a fact. The dust is broken up glass particles and traces of rock that will cut up your lungs from the inside out and then cement into rock inside them! A very painful and awful death as this is what killed the Romans in Pompeii rather than being burned to death. There lungs got eaten away and it rained the next day or two and cemented their bodies with the ash and preserved their bodies for 2,000 years.
Now even if you live in Europe and feel you are safe the global nuclear winter will come complete with a full glacialization ice age. Crops will die and food will be scarce. Snow and freezing temperatures will fall well north and south into the tropics. Unless you live near the equator you wont be fine at all. Expect everyone to invade your country and kill you and your neighbors for food too as this land will be highly prized mixed with a new world where there wont be enough food for 6 billion people as 1/3 of it will be frozen tundra.
Java was great and well written at the time in the 1990s. Bare in mind people had Pentium 166's and 28k modems and ran crappy browsers like Netscape back when the opinion of java being slow was ingrainded. A standard cpu today is probably a good 100x - 200x faster.
It is dated now true and Oracle is the one who put Ask crapware. But Java at least has a sandbox unlike VC?! Of course it has not been updated until recently but it is there and it worked until the last couple of years.
Java executes code but so does any other language. So does any other language that is more bare metal than interpreters like JavaScript. The problem is code execution without the user doing anything. Terrible idea!! Even reader has logic in it so it also executes code hence security issues with that too.
ActiveX has no sandboxing at all. However, it does have signed applets default in IE 6 and higher which make running untrusted code harder but still these should not be in a browser.
VC++ is not as safe as Java and would be a fucking disaster. I wished Java could have turned into something more and came more up to date. Oracle is trying but slowly as Java 8 will have things C# had since 2005 with Lambda. Still no LinQ like functionality. Java is a classic example of a great technology left to be bad management. The fact it is so and still widely used showed it was certainly not a crappy product and was cutting edge and is still modern even today even if its sandboxing is lacking.
I'm fine with the idea that climate and weather are different things. But where are all of you to point this out when idiots get on TV and try to claim that the latest big hurricane was "exacerbated by global warming"? You can't have it both ways.
Which is why I do not watch the Weather Channel or the national news in a very long time.
Worse, when Sandy hit New Jersey nobody believed them! Keep spewing crap like OMG IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD... over and over and over and no one is going to believe you. Even if the governor says evacuate.
Can't we do something about this? Even slashdotters are falling for the hype.
FYI I survived a polar vortex in 1989 when the last one hit and I was a kid. Man it was the longest wait for the bus I ever had! -10 with howling winds and even the gulf coast got hit with single digit temperatures which killed palm trees. The gulf coast this time around is in the low 20s which can frost bite them and kill some citris plants is nothing and +10 degrees warmer than the one in 1989! If anything it shows the world is warming up.
Don't use IE. Its been said here for over 10 years now and you should know better.
Even if its not IE 6 anymore it still does not support adblock. Get foxit unless you really need adobe. You can disable launch in browser. Also create a standard user and stop using XP. You never would have become infected.
Anything that executes code or reads it is potentially insecure.
Best defense is always to run updated oses with updates on, do not as root or admin, turn off anything that launches in a browser like PDF and Java. And for heavens sake run Av folks!
I know many say with a smile they run XP with an admin account with an ancient version of ff like 3.6 with no protection whatsoever!! Lord I bet such things have tons of Trojans and key loggers on (ff 3.6 has +40 holes as it is not maintained?!)
Anyway Avast is light and it as well as comodo dragon filter less trusted ad networks. You can disable PDF reader in its preferences and you can keep Java for eclipse but disable it in your browser addons. Done with a limited account, adblockers, Av software and a modern os mixed with shit launching automatically and you are pretty secure.
For the idiots who say with a smile they do not run AV software and think they are malware free because they don't click on anything, I told you so.
Some people even on Slashdot do not have a basic understanding of online security. Yes Linux Trojans exist too because like Mac users you all think you are invulnerable.
Basics: if you must use Java disable it in your browsers or put it in intranet zone only if you use IE at work. Disable adobe reader from launching automatically. Use foxit if you can or disable it in browser launching in which I do. Use flashblock and adblock. Even IE has adblock these days. Last do not run a browser with an admin/root account! In Windows I use a separate limited/standard account and do not browse as root in Linux. Doh. Run Windows updates!! But they may break my apps.... Please. I never had an issue and my security is worth it. Do that and these attacks will be plugged 90% of the time.
Do these in addition to not clicking on shit and then your system will be pretty darn secure.
Okay, so it sounds like a win-win situation. How soon can we start?
Okay, seriously, I think that restricting the free trade is the right thing to do, and the proper way to do it is to say, if the laborers cannot freely migrate and trade their labor freely, then the companies should not have a right to trade the products of their labor.
100% embargo, and we downscale our consumption and figure it out from there.
Oh, and if we're going to do that, we have to eliminate the profiteers who corruptly profited, so do like ex-soviet glasnost, and give all people an equal amount of credits to bid on EVERYTHING. Start over. Then let people figure out what they want to do.
The problem is we will starve. No jobs and no corps paying taxes to feed all the laid off workers. Corps will just leave the US market as Coke make as much if not more in China than here. It will takes decades to rebuild assuming anyone would have any money left to pay for it?
Besides crops our production would be about zero. It might even collapse western civilization Rome style. After all Republicans would tell everyone to get jobs with them all gone. It took 10 years to move to China. It needs to take that long to come back
All China has to do is impose a temporary embargo for just 1 week.
Walmart, Sony, and 90% of all corporations would be SCREAMING MURDER and we would have the stock market crash and another recession start.
China has the west by the balls. Not the other way around my friend. Corporations will rule once again at the expense of the people and I bet Walmart might even go out of business as its stores all have just in time inventory and have so much of its funds tied to replenishing stock. Walmart doesn't buy anything outside of China in the last 15 years.
China is the winner here as they laugh at our outdated thinking with big military weapons can secure peace and assertiveness in economic trade. China owns all the darn means of production!
This was their plan all along and if they invade Taiwan we wont get involved. After all without Walmart who will pay for their re-election campaign and the economic fall out will be devestating. Intel and others who have expensive R&D can't just build a new chip fabrication plant overnight and make chips immediately in the US. It takes years to move out and set a factory up.
The right thing to do is throw these corrupt bumbs out of office and make bribing illegal!!
The only reason these defense contractors do whatever they hell they want is because money talks and shit walks. They pay off politicians to get whatever they want at the expense of the people.
I am sick and tired of hearing this year after year after year. With a 15% approval rating I think the voters are too. Why can't we protest and rebel. The Tea Party is the only viable option here representing the far right in protesting but they stand for more corruption and the Koch Brothers bought them out so that is too agaisn't everyone's interest.
I am sick of this and no laws will ever be written as the system is written by agents of these corporations yes politicians work for them if they accept gifts and cash so in essence they are corporate employees!
Did you not even read TFS? Electronics weren't being imported, rare-earth magnets were. We're still capable of building our own electronics, we just can't do it as cheaply as the Chinese.
Is it about price? Or is it about corrupt lobbyists?
It can cost 10x as much as another contractor! But... if you have millions to bribe the congress and the president they will be happy to waste tax payer money.
Did you know Pakistan (as in the government) pays off our politicians all the time to influence US policy agaisn't our own interests.
The fact is the American government represents everyone but Americans as corporate interests. Doesn't matter which party, but the democrats at least happen to believe the world is older than 5,000 years old so I lean towards them but they are corrupt. The republicans believe those silly things so they can promise oil and defense contractor lobbyist that they can twist church goers into thinking they are voting for God by voting for these Chinese contracts etc.
It has nothing to do with how innovative the product is - even though it did bring something that no other apps did at the time, what matters is that it had many users. That's all that counts.
Well call me old fashioned, but what matters to me is money. It is a corporation after all.
Users do not mean jack if it does not bring in money. So yes these guys were idiots and blinded by greed and did the shareholders (assuming they had outside investors and help) not only a disservice but broke the law by not selling.
So if I were one of the 3 partners I would have sold out and pains like the security issue show its age. It is new and doesn't have an IT department more than a few people. It also shows how naive they are in the fact that there are many SQL and No-SQL databases to use that are mature, tested, have huge apis, and most importantly get regular security updates.
Perhaps I am bitter I was not offered billions so do not discard that part:-)
It wasnt Google, it was a company in China that valued them at 4 billion. But yea . . . that 3-4 bil is looking pretty good.
Valuation based on what?
They produce no money. The valuation is 0.
Ever watch SharkTank? Mark Cuban and others shoot down anyone who says I am valued at X, when they produce Y results in a year. Maybe, just maybe they can gain more if they can show they have increased exponential revenue by each quarter but that is pushing it. This company takes in more money then it generates and it is just speculation and gambling.
Maybe because I am struggling paying student loans and keeping expenses down like 60% of Americans, but if I were offered $1,000,000,000 for a company that makes more no money I would fucking take it!
If my other 2 partners got greedy and think they are the next Bill Gates and deserve to the be the top richest people for providing no value then I would have sold my share to Zuckerberg and told the other 2 partners to bite me or pay me the $1,000,000,000 themselves!
I mean come on what is so freaking innovative about a chat client written in java that can be done by any freshmen level CS student with pics that vanish after a timer?!... and if I were retarded enough to be an investor you bet your ass I would sue the hell out of all of the partners for $3,000,000,000 or try to recoup my money back. They did not have the shareholder interests at heart either.
iPod didn't run iOS. OS X came before iOS. And it was the success of OS X (caused not only because of its own superiority to Windows Vista but also by the "halo effect" from iPod sales, ease-of-use of the iMac and iBook, and excellent marketing of all these) that made Apple decide to use a modified version of OS X as the operating system for iPhone. After iPhone came iPod Touch, which also ran iOS.
In short, iOS had nothing to do with "keeping Apple afloat". It was created years after Apple had already become extremely profitable again. Rather, it was iOS that turned Apple from a profitable company to one of the most valuable companies in the world.
You know nothing.
Right and if Steve jobs stayed with Macs would Apple even be afloat? You said it yourself it was iOS.
So I am right and Apple was a dying company and it was only iOS that saved them. Not MacOSX and predicting its death was accurate in 1997 as they lost the pc war to Microsoft. Face the facts the pc is dying if it is not growing.
Sure they need their win32 craplets but in a few years of more declines they will wonder if it is wiser investment to go to a cloud and host them with Citrix via tablets instead as this is what everyone else is doing etc.
Until they see the $500-$600 per year price tag for the mobile broadband plan needed to use an application while on the road. Running applications on a leased server can replace a desktop a lot more easily than a laptop.
You also got to figure out in accountants who look at short term costs only as well as IT expense.
You can save millions if you have no IT department and no CIO! Just turn it on and it works! Azure will grow into a managed active directory just like they do right now with outlook.com which is part of office 365. The market is heading this way as business people do not want to deal with technology. Do MBAs of factories want to deal with mechanics? After all without them how can they ship their products etc? Is there a chief mechanic officer? That is silly.
They do hire geeks for SEO and marketing ads but that is it and maybe a few programmers for things they need to help glue that they have lying around.
A tablet with a screen and keyboard where the person can work from home is the future. They will be managed and have business stores. Exchange 2013 offers enterprise stores where apps are uploaded via a group policy. No need for an annoying VPN.
Windows 8 was too imature but it is coming. Corps are 5 to 7years behind comsumers. This makes sense as they know are approving Iphones (not droids yet) and Windows 7 and IE 8 is the new rage of modern. So in 5 to 7 years Windows 7 will be going EOL and slashdotters will be whining about change and the corps will have to make a choice in 5 years when 2019 comes. To go with another expensive to maintain eco system that will need to be upgraded in 10 years or go with tablets and save $$$$ and not worry.
This is the nightmare OEMs are afraid of for good reason. Mainframes were the standard too you know before the PC. Banks did not open up to PC's as more than toys until the freaking early to mid 1990s!
All MS has to do is release Windows 9 within a year or so with a full start menu.
If rumors are true that Windows 9 will have a touch-first, mouse-first, and voice-first UI with aero back hybrid then Android wont be needed.
I would not mind Metro apps if I can stack them like I can with Windows 7 apps in a taskbar/dock, have aero peak, and would not take up the damn whole screen, etc. I look at this as OEMs getting scared and this planned rebellion mentioned 2 days ago are OEMs trying to fight for the last straw to stay relevant.
Maybe not having crap screens with garbage quality stuff with bidders having a race to the bottom for the contract mixed with a decent OS would halt the pc decline?
So what you are telling me is I can get Weatherbug, Okcupid, Facebook, Angry Birds, and other apps on x86.
Developers use it because it loads in less than 1 minute and my fans do not sound like a jet engine taking off like it does when I select ARM in emulation. But 99% of users only use ARM so why compile it with anything else?... or I have an old Phenom II 2.6 ghz with a crappy fan.
I know what I am doing and I am a senior tech
Unless things radically changed the McAfee scanner still runs even with their uninstaller if you use a process monitor from sysinternals. The dll files are replaced after an install that can't ne undone even with a restore
An uninstall won't get rid of it. Only a reimage. Don't believe the uninstall function as CPU usage still shows the scanner.
so now 1-2 cores / hyperthreads will be needed to run this? good thing intel cpus have the power to run this shity software.
What do you mean will be needed?
So no emergency to blow $30,000 of lost productivity every single employee to save $500 in electricity costs to run on the weekend?!
Also why the performance issue!! ya ya McAfee sucks but I have never seen thus. Either your team still has Pentium IIIs with 256 megs of ram in all XP/IE 6 glory or something is not set right?! I have never seen this and shows mass incompetence
I would quit if you have enough experience as if upper management had any brains IT will be outsourced if they are that bad and the cio untouchable.
No amount of "bunker" is going to save you because most of North America will be knocked over and/or on fire. Even if you get out (as youll be under feet of hot ash) there will be no place to go, no way to get there, the grounds itself will be baren for a dozen years like Mt St Hellen's.
Listen to you, Mr. glass-half-empty.
Actually these 2 graphs ya ya strange site show past eruption damage. People as far away as Houston and LA would die.
It is a fact. The dust is broken up glass particles and traces of rock that will cut up your lungs from the inside out and then cement into rock inside them! A very painful and awful death as this is what killed the Romans in Pompeii rather than being burned to death. There lungs got eaten away and it rained the next day or two and cemented their bodies with the ash and preserved their bodies for 2,000 years.
Now even if you live in Europe and feel you are safe the global nuclear winter will come complete with a full glacialization ice age. Crops will die and food will be scarce. Snow and freezing temperatures will fall well north and south into the tropics. Unless you live near the equator you wont be fine at all. Expect everyone to invade your country and kill you and your neighbors for food too as this land will be highly prized mixed with a new world where there wont be enough food for 6 billion people as 1/3 of it will be frozen tundra.
I moved to Houston a year later. It got down to 7F there and killed palm trees after that 1989 freeze and snow fell as far south as Tampa.
So this is nothing and central Florida is not tropical. Only the very southern Florida keys are.
Yes
Java was great and well written at the time in the 1990s. Bare in mind people had Pentium 166's and 28k modems and ran crappy browsers like Netscape back when the opinion of java being slow was ingrainded. A standard cpu today is probably a good 100x - 200x faster.
It is dated now true and Oracle is the one who put Ask crapware. But Java at least has a sandbox unlike VC?! Of course it has not been updated until recently but it is there and it worked until the last couple of years.
Java executes code but so does any other language. So does any other language that is more bare metal than interpreters like JavaScript. The problem is code execution without the user doing anything. Terrible idea!! Even reader has logic in it so it also executes code hence security issues with that too.
ActiveX has no sandboxing at all. However, it does have signed applets default in IE 6 and higher which make running untrusted code harder but still these should not be in a browser.
VC++ is not as safe as Java and would be a fucking disaster. I wished Java could have turned into something more and came more up to date. Oracle is trying but slowly as Java 8 will have things C# had since 2005 with Lambda. Still no LinQ like functionality. Java is a classic example of a great technology left to be bad management. The fact it is so and still widely used showed it was certainly not a crappy product and was cutting edge and is still modern even today even if its sandboxing is lacking.
He is a troll and the let the moderators do their job and ignore him.
When I first saw this headline I smirked and wondered what would the trolls be say? Obviously the title itself is just flamebaitish enough.
These are comments I expect in CNN or msnbc.com by trolls. Not on Slashdot where we mod them down and ignore them.
I'm fine with the idea that climate and weather are different things. But where are all of you to point this out when idiots get on TV and try to claim that the latest big hurricane was "exacerbated by global warming"? You can't have it both ways.
Which is why I do not watch the Weather Channel or the national news in a very long time.
Worse, when Sandy hit New Jersey nobody believed them! Keep spewing crap like OMG IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD ... over and over and over and no one is going to believe you. Even if the governor says evacuate.
Can't we do something about this? Even slashdotters are falling for the hype.
FYI I survived a polar vortex in 1989 when the last one hit and I was a kid. Man it was the longest wait for the bus I ever had! -10 with howling winds and even the gulf coast got hit with single digit temperatures which killed palm trees. The gulf coast this time around is in the low 20s which can frost bite them and kill some citris plants is nothing and +10 degrees warmer than the one in 1989! If anything it shows the world is warming up.
Don't use IE. Its been said here for over 10 years now and you should know better.
Even if its not IE 6 anymore it still does not support adblock. Get foxit unless you really need adobe. You can disable launch in browser. Also create a standard user and stop using XP. You never would have become infected.
Anything that executes code or reads it is potentially insecure.
Best defense is always to run updated oses with updates on, do not as root or admin, turn off anything that launches in a browser like PDF and Java. And for heavens sake run Av folks!
I know many say with a smile they run XP with an admin account with an ancient version of ff like 3.6 with no protection whatsoever!! Lord I bet such things have tons of Trojans and key loggers on (ff 3.6 has +40 holes as it is not maintained?!)
Anyway Avast is light and it as well as comodo dragon filter less trusted ad networks. You can disable PDF reader in its preferences and you can keep Java for eclipse but disable it in your browser addons. Done with a limited account, adblockers, Av software and a modern os mixed with shit launching automatically and you are pretty secure.
Unfortunately Windows 8 and higher ignore host files. You can use avast or Comodo dragon which blocks less trusted ad networks in addition to adblock.
For the idiots who say with a smile they do not run AV software and think they are malware free because they don't click on anything, I told you so.
Some people even on Slashdot do not have a basic understanding of online security. Yes Linux Trojans exist too because like Mac users you all think you are invulnerable.
Basics: if you must use Java disable it in your browsers or put it in intranet zone only if you use IE at work. Disable adobe reader from launching automatically. Use foxit if you can or disable it in browser launching in which I do. Use flashblock and adblock. Even IE has adblock these days. Last do not run a browser with an admin/root account! In Windows I use a separate limited/standard account and do not browse as root in Linux. Doh. Run Windows updates!! But they may break my apps .... Please. I never had an issue and my security is worth it. Do that and these attacks will be plugged 90% of the time.
Do these in addition to not clicking on shit and then your system will be pretty darn secure.
All China has to do is....Walmart screaming...
Okay, so it sounds like a win-win situation. How soon can we start?
Okay, seriously, I think that restricting the free trade is the right thing to do, and the proper way to do it is to say, if the laborers cannot freely migrate and trade their labor freely, then the companies should not have a right to trade the products of their labor.
100% embargo, and we downscale our consumption and figure it out from there.
Oh, and if we're going to do that, we have to eliminate the profiteers who corruptly profited, so do like ex-soviet glasnost, and give all people an equal amount of credits to bid on EVERYTHING. Start over. Then let people figure out what they want to do.
The problem is we will starve. No jobs and no corps paying taxes to feed all the laid off workers. Corps will just leave the US market as Coke make as much if not more in China than here. It will takes decades to rebuild assuming anyone would have any money left to pay for it?
Besides crops our production would be about zero. It might even collapse western civilization Rome style. After all Republicans would tell everyone to get jobs with them all gone.
It took 10 years to move to China. It needs to take that long to come back
Please
All China has to do is impose a temporary embargo for just 1 week.
Walmart, Sony, and 90% of all corporations would be SCREAMING MURDER and we would have the stock market crash and another recession start.
China has the west by the balls. Not the other way around my friend. Corporations will rule once again at the expense of the people and I bet Walmart might even go out of business as its stores all have just in time inventory and have so much of its funds tied to replenishing stock. Walmart doesn't buy anything outside of China in the last 15 years.
China is the winner here as they laugh at our outdated thinking with big military weapons can secure peace and assertiveness in economic trade. China owns all the darn means of production!
This was their plan all along and if they invade Taiwan we wont get involved. After all without Walmart who will pay for their re-election campaign and the economic fall out will be devestating. Intel and others who have expensive R&D can't just build a new chip fabrication plant overnight and make chips immediately in the US. It takes years to move out and set a factory up.
No
The right thing to do is throw these corrupt bumbs out of office and make bribing illegal!!
The only reason these defense contractors do whatever they hell they want is because money talks and shit walks. They pay off politicians to get whatever they want at the expense of the people.
I am sick and tired of hearing this year after year after year. With a 15% approval rating I think the voters are too. Why can't we protest and rebel. The Tea Party is the only viable option here representing the far right in protesting but they stand for more corruption and the Koch Brothers bought them out so that is too agaisn't everyone's interest.
I am sick of this and no laws will ever be written as the system is written by agents of these corporations yes politicians work for them if they accept gifts and cash so in essence they are corporate employees!
Did you not even read TFS? Electronics weren't being imported, rare-earth magnets were. We're still capable of building our own electronics, we just can't do it as cheaply as the Chinese.
Is it about price? Or is it about corrupt lobbyists?
It can cost 10x as much as another contractor! But ... if you have millions to bribe the congress and the president they will be happy to waste tax payer money.
Did you know Pakistan (as in the government) pays off our politicians all the time to influence US policy agaisn't our own interests.
The fact is the American government represents everyone but Americans as corporate interests. Doesn't matter which party, but the democrats at least happen to believe the world is older than 5,000 years old so I lean towards them but they are corrupt. The republicans believe those silly things so they can promise oil and defense contractor lobbyist that they can twist church goers into thinking they are voting for God by voting for these Chinese contracts etc.
Worthy of front page news and very technical and insightful for all the science and computer internets who make up slashdot.
It has nothing to do with how innovative the product is - even though it did bring something that no other apps did at the time, what matters is that it had many users. That's all that counts.
Well call me old fashioned, but what matters to me is money. It is a corporation after all.
Users do not mean jack if it does not bring in money. So yes these guys were idiots and blinded by greed and did the shareholders (assuming they had outside investors and help) not only a disservice but broke the law by not selling.
So if I were one of the 3 partners I would have sold out and pains like the security issue show its age. It is new and doesn't have an IT department more than a few people. It also shows how naive they are in the fact that there are many SQL and No-SQL databases to use that are mature, tested, have huge apis, and most importantly get regular security updates.
Perhaps I am bitter I was not offered billions so do not discard that part :-)
It wasnt Google, it was a company in China that valued them at 4 billion. But yea . . . that 3-4 bil is looking pretty good.
Valuation based on what?
They produce no money. The valuation is 0.
Ever watch SharkTank? Mark Cuban and others shoot down anyone who says I am valued at X, when they produce Y results in a year. Maybe, just maybe they can gain more if they can show they have increased exponential revenue by each quarter but that is pushing it. This company takes in more money then it generates and it is just speculation and gambling.
The financial mathematics makes no sense.
Maybe because I am struggling paying student loans and keeping expenses down like 60% of Americans, but if I were offered $1,000,000,000 for a company that makes more no money I would fucking take it!
If my other 2 partners got greedy and think they are the next Bill Gates and deserve to the be the top richest people for providing no value then I would have sold my share to Zuckerberg and told the other 2 partners to bite me or pay me the $1,000,000,000 themselves!
I mean come on what is so freaking innovative about a chat client written in java that can be done by any freshmen level CS student with pics that vanish after a timer?! ... and if I were retarded enough to be an investor you bet your ass I would sue the hell out of all of the partners for $3,000,000,000 or try to recoup my money back. They did not have the shareholder interests at heart either.
iPod didn't run iOS. OS X came before iOS. And it was the success of OS X (caused not only because of its own superiority to Windows Vista but also by the "halo effect" from iPod sales, ease-of-use of the iMac and iBook, and excellent marketing of all these) that made Apple decide to use a modified version of OS X as the operating system for iPhone. After iPhone came iPod Touch, which also ran iOS.
In short, iOS had nothing to do with "keeping Apple afloat". It was created years after Apple had already become extremely profitable again. Rather, it was iOS that turned Apple from a profitable company to one of the most valuable companies in the world.
You know nothing.
Right and if Steve jobs stayed with Macs would Apple even be afloat? You said it yourself it was iOS.
So I am right and Apple was a dying company and it was only iOS that saved them. Not MacOSX and predicting its death was accurate in 1997 as they lost the pc war to Microsoft. Face the facts the pc is dying if it is not growing.
Sure they need their win32 craplets but in a few years of more declines they will wonder if it is wiser investment to go to a cloud and host them with Citrix via tablets instead as this is what everyone else is doing etc.
Until they see the $500-$600 per year price tag for the mobile broadband plan needed to use an application while on the road. Running applications on a leased server can replace a desktop a lot more easily than a laptop.
You also got to figure out in accountants who look at short term costs only as well as IT expense.
You can save millions if you have no IT department and no CIO! Just turn it on and it works! Azure will grow into a managed active directory just like they do right now with outlook.com which is part of office 365. The market is heading this way as business people do not want to deal with technology. Do MBAs of factories want to deal with mechanics? After all without them how can they ship their products etc? Is there a chief mechanic officer? That is silly.
They do hire geeks for SEO and marketing ads but that is it and maybe a few programmers for things they need to help glue that they have lying around.
A tablet with a screen and keyboard where the person can work from home is the future. They will be managed and have business stores. Exchange 2013 offers enterprise stores where apps are uploaded via a group policy. No need for an annoying VPN.
Windows 8 was too imature but it is coming. Corps are 5 to 7years behind comsumers. This makes sense as they know are approving Iphones (not droids yet) and Windows 7 and IE 8 is the new rage of modern. So in 5 to 7 years Windows 7 will be going EOL and slashdotters will be whining about change and the corps will have to make a choice in 5 years when 2019 comes. To go with another expensive to maintain eco system that will need to be upgraded in 10 years or go with tablets and save $$$$ and not worry.
This is the nightmare OEMs are afraid of for good reason. Mainframes were the standard too you know before the PC. Banks did not open up to PC's as more than toys until the freaking early to mid 1990s!
All MS has to do is release Windows 9 within a year or so with a full start menu.
If rumors are true that Windows 9 will have a touch-first, mouse-first, and voice-first UI with aero back hybrid then Android wont be needed.
I would not mind Metro apps if I can stack them like I can with Windows 7 apps in a taskbar/dock, have aero peak, and would not take up the damn whole screen, etc. I look at this as OEMs getting scared and this planned rebellion mentioned 2 days ago are OEMs trying to fight for the last straw to stay relevant.
Maybe not having crap screens with garbage quality stuff with bidders having a race to the bottom for the contract mixed with a decent OS would halt the pc decline?
So what you are telling me is I can get Weatherbug, Okcupid, Facebook, Angry Birds, and other apps on x86.
Developers use it because it loads in less than 1 minute and my fans do not sound like a jet engine taking off like it does when I select ARM in emulation. But 99% of users only use ARM so why compile it with anything else? ... or I have an old Phenom II 2.6 ghz with a crappy fan.