IE 7 still does not respect standards nor just works. Slashdot puts elements all over the place with IE 7. IE 8 will actually work and just be ugly. IE 7 needs to die too as MS plans to make IE an annual new release.
Let me know when I can read and write Word documents that are flawless from every single user on the planet! Macs do not count as they are well over $1400! Besides entourage does not integrate with Exchange so it makes them useless in a corporate environment.
People use Windows because it works. Same with Office and until that changes they are never going to go away. Same is true with the ancient IE 6 and VB and MS Access apps running in enterprises across the country.
Not everyone plays Angry Birds and reads Slashdot all day.
Exchange and Office are 2 products everyone loves to hate and yet loves. This is why I use Windows. It just works and I can communicate with the rest of the world by using what other people use it means less headaches.
This means word and excel documents that are rendered correctly everything. It sucks but that is the only thing keeping me in and the same with the business world.
MS has paid Apple and are in a special patent pool together so they can sue the hell out of any and all Andriod makers and Google. Not because Android is identical. The fact is the patents are frivilous for things like clicking an icon on a screen. Or displaying an addressbook from a caller. Or showing a business on a map etc.
If you had to follow the MS/Apple patent pool you wouldn't have a phone anymore. Hundreds of patents costing $10 each make each phone that costs $40 to make $800! It is insane!
So Apple wont sue MS as they paid $30 per handset and MS agreed to help Apple take down Google which also is in Apple's interest as they view them as a threat and not MS. MS hates both and figures it is easier to take down Google first, then focus on Apple later.
So in other words they are 2 crime families making an agreement with territory, profits from drugs, and politicians and judges they can bribe, and of course an enemy that is a threat to both, where territory is the platform, profits are phones, and patents are the corrupt judges, etc.
People do care. Average users as they want something that looks cool that their friends use and has all the cool apps they are familiar with.
I spoke to a phone salesmen and he told me Nokia has the highest returns in his store. The Nokia luima actually and didn't recommend it!
That says a lot right there.
It is the classic example of MBAs trying to get ahead by staying behind the competition with excessive cost cutting. Not trying to make a better phone to gain more marketshare which is what Apple and Samsung is doing. Though the new Galaxy 3 is cheaper and breaks easier unlike the IPhone 5 and older Galaxies sadly.
I wonder if there is anything Nokia could have done? I see his point with Android and since Windows Phone is a new OS with MS providing a huge developer base and tools not to mention hope that it might be compatible with METRO be a boon.
Investors hate people who say it is a hot market I want in!!! That makes them yawn as consumers prefer other players who are already in psychologically. Symbian didn't have the developer support or ecosystem either or the mass market either.
Picking Windows Mobile kind of made sense and was a big bet for these reasons. Problem is it never took off. If Windows Phone did take off Nokia would be riding it as they are Microsoft's preferred phone provider. Sadly, in the end they got screwed over by MS just like everyone else. MS is a very non trustworthy company to be foolish enough to trust your business too.
Tell them they are putting their company at risk by forcing IE6
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As a web developer I can tell you very few developers still cater to IE6. Many have even dropped IE7.
The companies requiring IE6 don't require it because they take some perverse joy in forcing their employees to browse the web with a prehistoric browser. They require it because they have some custom in-house app which runs on a local intranet web server that works only with IE6. The expectation is that the employees will use IE6 to run that app, nothing more. In such an environment, there is very little risk from using IE6.
The problem comes about when employees want to surf the Internet and reach for the nearest browser. In most cases they're not even supposed to be surfing the Internet from that machine. Updating the web app to run on something newer than IE6 as you propose is not the only solution. Other possible (and likely cheaper) solutions include strict enforcement of the "no surfing" rules, or a more pragmatic approach which allows employees to surf the net using a different machine or a different approved browser.
That will change very quickly. Clouds, Skydrive pro, Tablets for the executives, Salesforce.com, and business social media and even Office 2013 all integrate together. Many workers will be having vendor orders accessible by their salesforce.com page that will be HTML 5 with an ugly IE 8 min packport. Skydrive PRO is part of Office 2013, Windows 8 Enterprise, and Windows 9. Requires IE 9 (I think) or later.
Cost accountants and owners looking at the internet as a cost and a toy rather than a tool are going to repeate the same mistakes their parents made when the PC came out in the 1980s. They laughed at them and couldn't understand how a toy like a PC could enhance productivity when these typewritters and Mainframes were all the rage.
They had to spend more in the long run by going cheap and not having network cards in them nor anything other than greenscreen to run Windows.
Sticking with IE 6 in 2012 is a bad idea. Your employees need to use the internet to do their jobs and the demand will surge once their customers require them all to use websites and other tools like salesforce and probably other business social media sites.
Autocad was the only major cad program that was a Windows and DOS exclusive when others were on Sun OS and Irix. I am shocked they even have a Mac version today! The beancounters that run that company only look at marketshare and how much money is worth the development cost.
If they can't get back more in a linux port than the development effort then they wont make it. That simple. There maybe some assembler code from the DOS days still in there, but I bet most of the costs are proprietary Win32 api's. Autodesk has been very pro Microsoft implementing every feature like backoffice, DNA, and God knows what else. This makes it expensive and a complete rewrite for anything else.
Many wont even talk to you unless you sign a sheet acknowledging the pre-reqs with IE 6 mentioned and asking if you can do this before the interview even starts! As a result managers have no clue webmasters wont do the work or even that it requires more work. After all everytime they put it out for the headhunters every person who was pre-screened agreed to to it. Since their intranet apps all work therefore it is not broken so why upgrade?
I never heard of IE 6 being incompatible with standards? Every other developer has no problem with it. All my apps work with it. You seem to be the only one who can't do it Cory Christison etc.
Oddly Windows Phone 6.5 was popular in these circles because it came with IE 6 and ran on an ARM or Mips. It can render these apps fine.
Statue of limitations apply to laws broken. Not private contracts such as debt. This is a civil issue.
No it is not insured as we found out with AIG what happens when financial companies get crazy with instruments. They do not destroy contracts but just sell them. They are sold to third party collectors and yes shame on the person who hurt the bank and forced them to do so, not debtor as they just lost A TON of money after a 3rd party person buys it.
It is not the banks money or the CEOs money. It is the peoples money. It is the grandma's living off her savings which the debtor (grandparent) splurged on and then didn't pay back forcing her and the bank to take the loss by selling it for pennies on the dollar. Yes the burden is on the plaintiff as he didn't honorably obligie on the contract. Yes the collection agency does have the original copy.
You may hate them and view them as parasites like the repo men but they do serve society a fuction. Unlike Wallstreet traders. They keep interest rates for the rest of us and enable those of us who are hurting financial who need a car but have been honest to get one! Without these players it would be impossible to get a car at all if you made under $50k a year! How do I know you are going to pay me back?
FYI I am not a hearltess asshole as I am going through struggles myself and sometimes people go through hard times. It is very humiliating to have people call you a loser and harass you and threaten to take your car away etc. But that is what you are if someone else paid for it. Now if this poor sap had been just unemployed for 6 months then I can see your point. But 20 years?! Wow... I would not loan him anything!
Well trying not to be too much of a dick here but I can not invent a debt upon you and demand payment. You have to agree to it. Try they can put in changes in fees like with ATM cards but not if you had no debt in the first place.
20 years is a long time not to pay. Not like you borrowed some money and got laid off 6 months ago but over a decade old!
Then why are not the bank executives in jail? BOA and Chase already pleaded guilty yet the owners are not going to jail nor are any employees. They just pay a fine and use it as a tax write off and continue.
piercing of the vail is commonly used to pay back taxes and other lawsuits as well. I have not ever seen it for criminal and I wish they would. If the CEOs get jailtime and so do executives then you bet your ass they wont make shady deals. Rachel included should be in jail and sued otherwise she will just move to India and run another shell company there and continue while claiming she didn't break any laws as she was in another country.
First off you are not protected on the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act as the debt was incurred before it was made. It is grandfathered which is why debt collection agencies are purchasing it because they are free from prosecution. Only new debt after it was made can be applied.
I am going to get flamed here or modded down... but you are expected to pay them.
People who do not pay back their debt have no integrity and do not keep their word. You made a promise to pay them no matter what, you agreed to the terms, and it is been what?? 20 years?!
Be responsible! At least try with a payment plan if you want anyone like a car dealership or a bank to trust you again. Hate the debt collectors all you want but if I owed you money and the repo man was about to take your car away because you had to pay off my own debt would you not be pissed off hounding me on paying back too? You would and probably be threatening to sue me as well.
But you are fine that a convicted monopolist does? I do not want to go back to the days of 90% IE 6 where you had to dual boot just to put a resume on monster.com (which only supported IE 6 in 2004).
Firefox probably wouldn't be where it was today if Europe didn't lead the way with other browsers first thanks to the ballot box. What it did was force webmasters to write non IE 6 code. After that it was possible to use Firefox then people finally had an option to switch.
I do not understand the big old fear of government? When it really is corporations and corruption that evidence backs time and time again for hurting innovation. If MS was split more of us could use a non-Office platform. I still use MS Office because I have too due to this monopolists. There is no free market in a monopoly. You can't compete if people can't read my documents I create perfectly!
Yes Apple could have a much higher marketshare. Its TCO are lower than Windows PCs by far but that is closing in recent years. Software only exists on pcs so people HAVE TO USE Windows. Even Office is neutered on the mac. For example I can't share calanders in outlook with entourage. Therefore everyone in the office must use Windows. It is bullshit like this is how MS makes money.
Until MacOSX, Linux, and tablets start gaining more momentium it gives IE an unfair advantage and pisses off webmasters!
Want a cool fluid HTML 5 of slashdot? Nope aint happening. What about bbc news? Nope aint happening. Anysite? Yeah on your phone NOT PC. Why? The answer is IE... make that old IE since IE 9 has some support and iE 10 with full HTML 5 is right around the corner for Windows 7 hopefully this year.
Seriously if that browser was not standard in the US, Canada, and pretty much every country besides the EU we would have HTML 5, no flash, accelerated graphics, etc. Stop fearing the government and regulations. It exists for a reason and in this case it may have helped break the IE 6 stranglehold. Europians were the first to use Firefox because of the ballot forcing webmasters to write w3c compliant code and companies to care about other browsers besides IE 6. We might still be using it today without that ruling!
Yep. Most users are pretty dumb and this is true especially with the aging baby boomers who are 45+ and hate change. They would buy systems with XP still if it were offered. Maybe they once used that Fox Fire browser methingie their kids installed on their older computer but why risk and try to find it?
IE 9 is actually usable now and not a bad browser. My guess is they just got used to that.
Now those who read slashdot are in the minority and younger users have no quarrel googling chrome or Firefox. But there are more older people than younger people.
I wish the US had this ballot. The USA is one of the last holdouts of high IE usage. Gee, why is that? Because it comes with peoples computers.
A fortune 500 datacenter can easily cost up to 1 million a year in electricity! I/O, not CPU performance is the bottleneck in most servers so the slower ARM wont make that much a deal. Also a kick ass GPU can improve SuperComputing a lot more than a tweaked out Xeon if AMD can pull it off with a decent graphics for scientific workloads.
Anyone here would like to see a new trilogy with the story of Darth Raven and the old empire coming face to face together 4,000 years before the older movies? That would rock and would give something different based on SWTOR game.
I disagree. Many developers who snubbed Vista and then Windows 7 and only supported XP are having their customers switch to competitors!
Windows 8 sucking or not is too large of a marketshare to ignore. The customer determines what you support. Not yourself. Windows 8 mobile maybe crappy in terms of marketshare but every new pc that most people and businesses buy will come with it. Most employers are small believe it or not and do not have a dedicated IT departmetn with images of ancient platforms like yours does. They buy a pc at Staples and install the software themselves and get to work. If your corporate app wont support them they will simply buy from someone else who will.
What MS fucked up on is not making metro binary and source compatible between Windows 8/RT and Windows 8 mobile. The kernels between all 3 plataforms are identical. No difference whatsoever. Windows 9 may fix this if it not too late.
It would be really nice if it were binary, or perhaps source compatible with Windows 8/RT.
I can't see why not? There is not enough marketshare for people to care right now but Windows on the desktop you simply can't ignore. Fat binaries is how Apple accomplished and a fat Metro applet with x86/arm that can run on a phone should have been thought of in 2010 since that is where MS wanted to go.
I mean the kernel is freaking identical between win 8/RT and Windows mobile!
It has worked fine for over 20 years. I see no problem with it.
First, oh it emulated physical objects instead of being unique? Ok, why is a paper addressbook set up the way it is? Because it works. Excel looks like ledgers? Ok, paper ledgers are setup that way as it become a problem centuries ago to find complex bits of data in unorganized scrolls. So it is setup to make finding data by row and column fine as it worked well with physical ones as well.
I do agree since a computer is more powerful that some other non traditional techniques can be used. Such as google with site:www.slashdot.org +"billly Gates" for more advanced users. Expert users can go a step further with SQL.
But most people do not do advanced things and the flaw is to make simple things ugly and complex. I love my eye candy on a modern computer as I paid a lot of money for it and will use it skeumorphic head first! Just to other things only when neccesary.
So for complaining about the wood and paper textures of the addressbook? Make it butt ugly then? People will start buying pretty Androids instead. No one is looking for a butt ugly product.
Or retaliation for the Android lawsuits? Apple wanted more control and felt Google was getting rich off all their users. True and they could have renogiated for another year until ios 7.
Or go to Microsoft. Microsoft? Yes, they hate Google more than Apple. They are releasing office 2013 for iOS and even porting skydrive. Bing is a loss leader and big customer like Apple would help generate some revenue and hurt Google as it is the largest source of red ink at Redmonton.
The failure is on the project manager of IOS for agreeing it could be done without proper research. It was also a failure of Cook. I mean what does he do all day? A good CEO manages everything and knows exactly what everything is going on all times.
OR we do not really know what happened are are making an assumption?
We do know that IOS 6 sucked. It had power issues, maps were unusable, and Sirii still has issues. To this day people love putitng pics on facebook of IPhones misinterpretting things in embarrasing conversations.
I would fire several people too. Not to show who is boss and be a badass, but because that should not have been released PERIOD. Did they do any QA at all? WTF. I could be wrong too and Cook could have demanded it and ignored issues but this would be likely a good termination... well except for the guy who got canned.
So you'd rather have the OS chew up cycles than let the apps have them?
You have any idea how fast a modern computer is? An icore7 has 70,000 mips (millions of instructions per second!) For a comparison the 1984 Mac had 3 mips. Your computer you are reading this on is 20,000 faster than the first successful graphical computer.
Now lets talk about the GPU. I do not have hardcore numbers like I did with the CPU but 10 to 100s of billions of pixels rendering a second has been the norm for years and this is true even for a crappy intel integrated graphics.
In 1990 yes, your argument made sense as 8 colors could substancely lower the cost and increase the performance of your system. Today 32-bit graphics use 16.7 million graphics per pixel! This is regular standard Windows 7 colors as designers on workstations use up to 48-bit.
So I want my AERO, compiz, and pretty eye candy since I have this awesome supercomputer and it is asthetically pleasing much the same way of having nice interior does not signficiantly slow down the performance of your car due to the extra 7 pounds it adds. I love text that flows smoothly on my Android phone and hate how browsers are choppy on a full powered desktop unless I go in and tweak the 3d settings and smooth scrool. Though, Firefox and IE 10 are getting better.
I like the current system because it is what I am used too as well and see no need to replace it. Only difference is I use Google to search for things instead of using a gui, but that is it.
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IE 7 still does not respect standards nor just works. Slashdot puts elements all over the place with IE 7. IE 8 will actually work and just be ugly. IE 7 needs to die too as MS plans to make IE an annual new release.
Let me know when I can read and write Word documents that are flawless from every single user on the planet! Macs do not count as they are well over $1400! Besides entourage does not integrate with Exchange so it makes them useless in a corporate environment.
People use Windows because it works. Same with Office and until that changes they are never going to go away. Same is true with the ancient IE 6 and VB and MS Access apps running in enterprises across the country.
Not everyone plays Angry Birds and reads Slashdot all day.
Exchange and Office are 2 products everyone loves to hate and yet loves. This is why I use Windows. It just works and I can communicate with the rest of the world by using what other people use it means less headaches.
This means word and excel documents that are rendered correctly everything. It sucks but that is the only thing keeping me in and the same with the business world.
MS has paid Apple and are in a special patent pool together so they can sue the hell out of any and all Andriod makers and Google. Not because Android is identical. The fact is the patents are frivilous for things like clicking an icon on a screen. Or displaying an addressbook from a caller. Or showing a business on a map etc.
If you had to follow the MS/Apple patent pool you wouldn't have a phone anymore. Hundreds of patents costing $10 each make each phone that costs $40 to make $800! It is insane!
So Apple wont sue MS as they paid $30 per handset and MS agreed to help Apple take down Google which also is in Apple's interest as they view them as a threat and not MS. MS hates both and figures it is easier to take down Google first, then focus on Apple later.
So in other words they are 2 crime families making an agreement with territory, profits from drugs, and politicians and judges they can bribe, and of course an enemy that is a threat to both, where territory is the platform, profits are phones, and patents are the corrupt judges, etc.
People do care. Average users as they want something that looks cool that their friends use and has all the cool apps they are familiar with.
I spoke to a phone salesmen and he told me Nokia has the highest returns in his store. The Nokia luima actually and didn't recommend it!
That says a lot right there.
It is the classic example of MBAs trying to get ahead by staying behind the competition with excessive cost cutting. Not trying to make a better phone to gain more marketshare which is what Apple and Samsung is doing. Though the new Galaxy 3 is cheaper and breaks easier unlike the IPhone 5 and older Galaxies sadly.
Meego didn't have the developer ecosystem.
I wonder if there is anything Nokia could have done? I see his point with Android and since Windows Phone is a new OS with MS providing a huge developer base and tools not to mention hope that it might be compatible with METRO be a boon.
Investors hate people who say it is a hot market I want in!!! That makes them yawn as consumers prefer other players who are already in psychologically. Symbian didn't have the developer support or ecosystem either or the mass market either.
Picking Windows Mobile kind of made sense and was a big bet for these reasons. Problem is it never took off. If Windows Phone did take off Nokia would be riding it as they are Microsoft's preferred phone provider. Sadly, in the end they got screwed over by MS just like everyone else. MS is a very non trustworthy company to be foolish enough to trust your business too.
The companies requiring IE6 don't require it because they take some perverse joy in forcing their employees to browse the web with a prehistoric browser. They require it because they have some custom in-house app which runs on a local intranet web server that works only with IE6. The expectation is that the employees will use IE6 to run that app, nothing more. In such an environment, there is very little risk from using IE6.
The problem comes about when employees want to surf the Internet and reach for the nearest browser. In most cases they're not even supposed to be surfing the Internet from that machine. Updating the web app to run on something newer than IE6 as you propose is not the only solution. Other possible (and likely cheaper) solutions include strict enforcement of the "no surfing" rules, or a more pragmatic approach which allows employees to surf the net using a different machine or a different approved browser.
That will change very quickly. Clouds, Skydrive pro, Tablets for the executives, Salesforce.com, and business social media and even Office 2013 all integrate together. Many workers will be having vendor orders accessible by their salesforce.com page that will be HTML 5 with an ugly IE 8 min packport. Skydrive PRO is part of Office 2013, Windows 8 Enterprise, and Windows 9. Requires IE 9 (I think) or later.
Cost accountants and owners looking at the internet as a cost and a toy rather than a tool are going to repeate the same mistakes their parents made when the PC came out in the 1980s. They laughed at them and couldn't understand how a toy like a PC could enhance productivity when these typewritters and Mainframes were all the rage.
They had to spend more in the long run by going cheap and not having network cards in them nor anything other than greenscreen to run Windows.
Sticking with IE 6 in 2012 is a bad idea. Your employees need to use the internet to do their jobs and the demand will surge once their customers require them all to use websites and other tools like salesforce and probably other business social media sites.
Autocad was the only major cad program that was a Windows and DOS exclusive when others were on Sun OS and Irix. I am shocked they even have a Mac version today! The beancounters that run that company only look at marketshare and how much money is worth the development cost.
If they can't get back more in a linux port than the development effort then they wont make it. That simple. There maybe some assembler code from the DOS days still in there, but I bet most of the costs are proprietary Win32 api's. Autodesk has been very pro Microsoft implementing every feature like backoffice, DNA, and God knows what else. This makes it expensive and a complete rewrite for anything else.
Pffft lucky you.
Many wont even talk to you unless you sign a sheet acknowledging the pre-reqs with IE 6 mentioned and asking if you can do this before the interview even starts! As a result managers have no clue webmasters wont do the work or even that it requires more work. After all everytime they put it out for the headhunters every person who was pre-screened agreed to to it. Since their intranet apps all work therefore it is not broken so why upgrade?
I never heard of IE 6 being incompatible with standards? Every other developer has no problem with it. All my apps work with it. You seem to be the only one who can't do it Cory Christison etc.
Oddly Windows Phone 6.5 was popular in these circles because it came with IE 6 and ran on an ARM or Mips. It can render these apps fine.
... and where exactly are you going to sell them? Craigslist?
Statue of limitations apply to laws broken. Not private contracts such as debt. This is a civil issue.
No it is not insured as we found out with AIG what happens when financial companies get crazy with instruments. They do not destroy contracts but just sell them. They are sold to third party collectors and yes shame on the person who hurt the bank and forced them to do so, not debtor as they just lost A TON of money after a 3rd party person buys it.
It is not the banks money or the CEOs money. It is the peoples money. It is the grandma's living off her savings which the debtor (grandparent) splurged on and then didn't pay back forcing her and the bank to take the loss by selling it for pennies on the dollar. Yes the burden is on the plaintiff as he didn't honorably obligie on the contract. Yes the collection agency does have the original copy.
You may hate them and view them as parasites like the repo men but they do serve society a fuction. Unlike Wallstreet traders. They keep interest rates for the rest of us and enable those of us who are hurting financial who need a car but have been honest to get one! Without these players it would be impossible to get a car at all if you made under $50k a year! How do I know you are going to pay me back?
FYI I am not a hearltess asshole as I am going through struggles myself and sometimes people go through hard times. It is very humiliating to have people call you a loser and harass you and threaten to take your car away etc. But that is what you are if someone else paid for it. Now if this poor sap had been just unemployed for 6 months then I can see your point. But 20 years?! Wow ... I would not loan him anything!
Well trying not to be too much of a dick here but I can not invent a debt upon you and demand payment. You have to agree to it. Try they can put in changes in fees like with ATM cards but not if you had no debt in the first place.
20 years is a long time not to pay. Not like you borrowed some money and got laid off 6 months ago but over a decade old!
Then why are not the bank executives in jail? BOA and Chase already pleaded guilty yet the owners are not going to jail nor are any employees. They just pay a fine and use it as a tax write off and continue.
piercing of the vail is commonly used to pay back taxes and other lawsuits as well. I have not ever seen it for criminal and I wish they would. If the CEOs get jailtime and so do executives then you bet your ass they wont make shady deals. Rachel included should be in jail and sued otherwise she will just move to India and run another shell company there and continue while claiming she didn't break any laws as she was in another country.
First off you are not protected on the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act as the debt was incurred before it was made. It is grandfathered which is why debt collection agencies are purchasing it because they are free from prosecution. Only new debt after it was made can be applied.
I am going to get flamed here or modded down ... but you are expected to pay them.
People who do not pay back their debt have no integrity and do not keep their word. You made a promise to pay them no matter what, you agreed to the terms, and it is been what?? 20 years?!
Be responsible! At least try with a payment plan if you want anyone like a car dealership or a bank to trust you again. Hate the debt collectors all you want but if I owed you money and the repo man was about to take your car away because you had to pay off my own debt would you not be pissed off hounding me on paying back too? You would and probably be threatening to sue me as well.
But you are fine that a convicted monopolist does? I do not want to go back to the days of 90% IE 6 where you had to dual boot just to put a resume on monster.com (which only supported IE 6 in 2004).
Firefox probably wouldn't be where it was today if Europe didn't lead the way with other browsers first thanks to the ballot box. What it did was force webmasters to write non IE 6 code. After that it was possible to use Firefox then people finally had an option to switch.
I do not understand the big old fear of government? When it really is corporations and corruption that evidence backs time and time again for hurting innovation. If MS was split more of us could use a non-Office platform. I still use MS Office because I have too due to this monopolists. There is no free market in a monopoly. You can't compete if people can't read my documents I create perfectly!
Yes Apple could have a much higher marketshare. Its TCO are lower than Windows PCs by far but that is closing in recent years. Software only exists on pcs so people HAVE TO USE Windows. Even Office is neutered on the mac. For example I can't share calanders in outlook with entourage. Therefore everyone in the office must use Windows. It is bullshit like this is how MS makes money.
More relevant than ever!
Until MacOSX, Linux, and tablets start gaining more momentium it gives IE an unfair advantage and pisses off webmasters!
Want a cool fluid HTML 5 of slashdot? Nope aint happening. What about bbc news? Nope aint happening. Anysite? Yeah on your phone NOT PC. Why? The answer is IE ... make that old IE since IE 9 has some support and iE 10 with full HTML 5 is right around the corner for Windows 7 hopefully this year.
Seriously if that browser was not standard in the US, Canada, and pretty much every country besides the EU we would have HTML 5, no flash, accelerated graphics, etc. Stop fearing the government and regulations. It exists for a reason and in this case it may have helped break the IE 6 stranglehold. Europians were the first to use Firefox because of the ballot forcing webmasters to write w3c compliant code and companies to care about other browsers besides IE 6. We might still be using it today without that ruling!
Yep. Most users are pretty dumb and this is true especially with the aging baby boomers who are 45+ and hate change. They would buy systems with XP still if it were offered. Maybe they once used that Fox Fire browser methingie their kids installed on their older computer but why risk and try to find it?
IE 9 is actually usable now and not a bad browser. My guess is they just got used to that.
Now those who read slashdot are in the minority and younger users have no quarrel googling chrome or Firefox. But there are more older people than younger people.
I wish the US had this ballot. The USA is one of the last holdouts of high IE usage. Gee, why is that? Because it comes with peoples computers.
Lets hope this can keep AMD afloat.
A fortune 500 datacenter can easily cost up to 1 million a year in electricity! I/O, not CPU performance is the bottleneck in most servers so the slower ARM wont make that much a deal. Also a kick ass GPU can improve SuperComputing a lot more than a tweaked out Xeon if AMD can pull it off with a decent graphics for scientific workloads.
Anyone here would like to see a new trilogy with the story of Darth Raven and the old empire coming face to face together 4,000 years before the older movies? That would rock and would give something different based on SWTOR game.
At least I could hope right?
I disagree. Many developers who snubbed Vista and then Windows 7 and only supported XP are having their customers switch to competitors!
Windows 8 sucking or not is too large of a marketshare to ignore. The customer determines what you support. Not yourself. Windows 8 mobile maybe crappy in terms of marketshare but every new pc that most people and businesses buy will come with it. Most employers are small believe it or not and do not have a dedicated IT departmetn with images of ancient platforms like yours does. They buy a pc at Staples and install the software themselves and get to work. If your corporate app wont support them they will simply buy from someone else who will.
What MS fucked up on is not making metro binary and source compatible between Windows 8/RT and Windows 8 mobile. The kernels between all 3 plataforms are identical. No difference whatsoever. Windows 9 may fix this if it not too late.
It would be really nice if it were binary, or perhaps source compatible with Windows 8/RT.
I can't see why not? There is not enough marketshare for people to care right now but Windows on the desktop you simply can't ignore. Fat binaries is how Apple accomplished and a fat Metro applet with x86/arm that can run on a phone should have been thought of in 2010 since that is where MS wanted to go.
I mean the kernel is freaking identical between win 8/RT and Windows mobile!
It has worked fine for over 20 years. I see no problem with it.
First, oh it emulated physical objects instead of being unique? Ok, why is a paper addressbook set up the way it is? Because it works. Excel looks like ledgers? Ok, paper ledgers are setup that way as it become a problem centuries ago to find complex bits of data in unorganized scrolls. So it is setup to make finding data by row and column fine as it worked well with physical ones as well.
I do agree since a computer is more powerful that some other non traditional techniques can be used. Such as google with site:www.slashdot.org +"billly Gates" for more advanced users. Expert users can go a step further with SQL.
But most people do not do advanced things and the flaw is to make simple things ugly and complex. I love my eye candy on a modern computer as I paid a lot of money for it and will use it skeumorphic head first! Just to other things only when neccesary.
So for complaining about the wood and paper textures of the addressbook? Make it butt ugly then? People will start buying pretty Androids instead. No one is looking for a butt ugly product.
Or retaliation for the Android lawsuits? Apple wanted more control and felt Google was getting rich off all their users. True and they could have renogiated for another year until ios 7.
Or go to Microsoft. Microsoft? Yes, they hate Google more than Apple. They are releasing office 2013 for iOS and even porting skydrive. Bing is a loss leader and big customer like Apple would help generate some revenue and hurt Google as it is the largest source of red ink at Redmonton.
The failure is on the project manager of IOS for agreeing it could be done without proper research. It was also a failure of Cook. I mean what does he do all day? A good CEO manages everything and knows exactly what everything is going on all times.
OR we do not really know what happened are are making an assumption?
We do know that IOS 6 sucked. It had power issues, maps were unusable, and Sirii still has issues. To this day people love putitng pics on facebook of IPhones misinterpretting things in embarrasing conversations.
I would fire several people too. Not to show who is boss and be a badass, but because that should not have been released PERIOD. Did they do any QA at all? WTF. I could be wrong too and Cook could have demanded it and ignored issues but this would be likely a good termination ... well except for the guy who got canned.
So you'd rather have the OS chew up cycles than let the apps have them?
You have any idea how fast a modern computer is? An icore7 has 70,000 mips (millions of instructions per second!) For a comparison the 1984 Mac had 3 mips. Your computer you are reading this on is 20,000 faster than the first successful graphical computer.
Now lets talk about the GPU. I do not have hardcore numbers like I did with the CPU but 10 to 100s of billions of pixels rendering a second has been the norm for years and this is true even for a crappy intel integrated graphics.
In 1990 yes, your argument made sense as 8 colors could substancely lower the cost and increase the performance of your system. Today 32-bit graphics use 16.7 million graphics per pixel! This is regular standard Windows 7 colors as designers on workstations use up to 48-bit.
So I want my AERO, compiz, and pretty eye candy since I have this awesome supercomputer and it is asthetically pleasing much the same way of having nice interior does not signficiantly slow down the performance of your car due to the extra 7 pounds it adds. I love text that flows smoothly on my Android phone and hate how browsers are choppy on a full powered desktop unless I go in and tweak the 3d settings and smooth scrool. Though, Firefox and IE 10 are getting better.
I like the current system because it is what I am used too as well and see no need to replace it. Only difference is I use Google to search for things instead of using a gui, but that is it.