It seems that using whatever young people are using is sufficient merit for you. Your father has to be wrong because (the only factual statement in your posting) is 70 years old.
Not that I care to defend Firefox anymore, but wouldn't it be refreshing for you to face your own age and accept the fact that time passes and you should stop worrying about it ?
I made the biased assumption based on some evidence that older people are resistant to change as the brain ages it's willingness to learn and memorize new things diminishes. I am 41 and am an old far. True I have trouble with newer GUI's as it is compared to younger folks.
But I noticed when a change is positive the older people for example also LOVE IE as an example because anything else looks funny. XP was GOD posts here were mostly older folks.
Time does pass yet I am careful to move with it when I see a benefit. But there is a big gap in opinion with mobile apps on Windows 10. Young people thing that and flat UI's are neat and useful. Older folks have an opposite reaction with some even preferring the Windows95 classic look which the ones I have met are near 50 and over. They swear they no more than the younger folks thru wisdom when it looks so dated.
What you are talking about is a hostile work environment.
You do not need that to be bullied. I see people going out of their way above your heads to get fired, work sabotage, those laughing and humiliating you in front of coworkers, and even customers.
I have seen managers give me 80 hours a week of work at me and laugh because they think it's funny and mention I know you are not good standing with your boss. Do this or I will call him etc. The work didn't even need to be done. This was very bad as it was constant and was done to fuck with me.
These can all be bullying. NO snowflake as not everyone has the ability to quit bad environments like this. I went on medication and therapy from that job.
Thankfully the assholes left after 2 years but the damage it done to my reputation was irreparable and after I had experience on my resume I was happy to leave.
Really? YOu never worked with assholes, insane psychopathic VPs or project managers, or coworkers who shout loud how they love pussy and picking girls while you and your whole department look bad?
I don't believe you. I experienced it all and I guess unless I did programming (I was dumb enough to listen to slashdotters 15 years ago say India would take my jobs so drop computer science) and went into a more high demand field I can't do jack about it like 90% of most people.
We have bills to pay. I have quit one job and almost quit another or was almost fired depending on who you talk to for political reasons on pissing contests for things above my head.
Work can really suck man.
Also those who work with customers and or clients know they can be assholes too because they have you by the balls. You say NO they call your bosses boss and ask for a new employee. Since they are the customer you are fired as they are God since they have gold who can make the rules.
I find this hard to believe I am an outliner in this as bullies in the playground as a child stay bullies in the workplace. The trick is to grow a pair of balls and take it so they go after someone else in a position of weakness
give in and switch to the path of least resistance
Which is.. to keep using Firefox? Firefox's WebExtensions API offers more than Chrome's does (see the browser comparison tables). The claims that Firefox is a "Chrome clone" are silly.
uBlock Origin works better in Firefox 57 than possible in Chrome (gorhill is the developer of uBlock Origin). Firefox's webRequest API was extended for NoScript's use (and it will use it when it gets released in a couple of days).
This reminds me of the old Emacs joke posted here. It goes Yeah I love Emacs. It's a great OS it just comes with a shitty text editor.
As a browser webkit beat it a very long time ago regardless of plugins. To me I view Firefox like RealNetworks realplayer or winamp. I heard both are better or were I should say, but who cares this is 2017 the world has moved on. I have not run it many years and neither have my coworkers. My 70 year old father is the only person I am aware of who still uses it.
I do not mean this as offensive to the remaining Firefox users. I really don't. I was once a fanboy since the days of Phoenix. I realistically do not see it mattering anymore nor ever coming back just like the legacy products listed above.... ok Emacs is still going strong with the older IT nerd crowd and is not going away:-).
Sorry, but all evidence shown so far seems to indicate Kaspersky software works just fine, Not caused system compromises, AND any case where Kaspersky "exposed" or "leaked" secret files were Kaspersky working like it's supposed to --- not Kaspersky violating any privacy expectations; you just don't get to run "secret" potentially-malicious programs on desktop computers without the possibility of malware samples of your suspicious code going to the AV vendor for analysis.... I can accept that, and I think most people SHOULD accept that with zero objections.
Yep all a vast liberal conspiracy with 0 evidence from other parties that Russian intelligence has been using Kaspersky at all because Trump has an R next so any negative news must be by the democrats.
Sorry, but all evidence shown so far seems to indicate Kaspersky software works just fine, Not caused system compromises, AND any case where Kaspersky "exposed" or "leaked" secret files were Kaspersky working like it's supposed to --- not Kaspersky violating any privacy expectations; you just don't get to run "secret" potentially-malicious programs on desktop computers without the possibility of malware samples of your suspicious code going to the AV vendor for analysis.... I can accept that, and I think most people SHOULD accept that with zero objections.
Yep all a vast liberal conspiracy with 0 evidence from other parties that Russian intelligence has been using Kaspersky at all because Trump has an R next so any negative news must be by the democrats.
ActiveX controls are soo last decade. I was not even referring to that as IE 11 is standards compliant. Just not cutting edge as Microsoft has moved on with Edge and was tired of the stale bug ridden legacy code of IE.
My guess is activeX is required because the smartcarders were made in China. China is legacy IE on XP for banking because of 1997 US export encryption laws. They were lifted 17 years ago! But many banks who didn't have encryption used activeX controls as a workarounds for the lack of secure encryption. Since everyone pirates in China they used XP with Windows Update enabled which means IE 6.
IE 6 is finally starting to go away in China, but the millions and millions of lines of code and manufactures are addicted to ActiveX still to this day. Security cameras sold today designed in China also require IE. Chrome is not popular at all and it is a different world. Korea too has a little high IE usage and lower Chrome usage as well.
I mean to answer phones at a help desk role surely requires the right answer like do you own a shed with a drafting table and how quickly you can organize puzzle pieces questions in 3 mins.
More stuff to disable on the work computers around here, until they fix all the bugs and security issues. Then more questions from the users about "why can't we have that airdrop thing?" and more of me being the 'bad guy' by telling them 'no you can't have it'.
Since Windows is so good in the workgroup, why not just use the LAN!?
Until you get calls from your users asking you to help them get their Skype for Business bluetooth headsets working for their meetings.
Shoot. I was just starting to like the new Microsoft after Windows 7 and the failure of gnome3 for a desktop OS (not server). Windows was finally stable, gorgeous, and after Balmer released.NET core for Linux, SQL Server for Linux, R for Linux, Microsoft Code, and included Python and Android emulators with Visual Studio.
Hell froze over and finally MS is getting with the times.
Windows 8.1 was fine if you had a start menu replacement which was annoying as hell, but lighter than 7 and ran much better with mobile battery life. Even IE is now usable and medocre from a previous abomination. Well my opinion changed with Windows 10. Not that I can't handle change as I think a Windows 8 tile in a start menu is what MS should have included with 8 and 10 got that right. I am not even complaining about Edge was is actually competitive with Firefox and Chrome in terms of compliance and plugins.
What pisses me off is Windows 10 is like a never ending beta. It seems they copied the Ubuntu style channels with current, current for business, and the really long term one which is more akin to Redhat. Things BREAK. Ivybridge ethernet cards are no longer supported out of the blue. Holy crap! Seriously INtel graphics don't have drivers too from 2012 era hardware if you update to the creators update. So now I need to buy 5,000 nvidia 710 GPUs and hire temps just to install them WTF.
I am re-imaging my workstation right now. Reason? The fall creators update can't get IPv4 addresses from my so called ancient 2014 era haswel Intel chepset 219 another WTF. My Server 2016 DCs on Windows 10 Hyper-V can't be promoted to a DC anymore without DFSLR failing with the fall update either complaining of a network error even though the VM can access the internet fine. As a test I installed an old copy of VMWare Workstation 11 and the test Server 2016 VM can be promoted to a domain controller just fine so I know it is not me or the hardware.
For a large corporation with 20,000 desktops from 2 vendors with 8 variations of models this is unacceptable and a nightmare to manage.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE the new updates as XP was ridiculous as it was 13 years old! But this is the other extreme. An enterprise endpoint is alot more complex than a cell phone. MS is treating Windows like an Android OS. Sometimes apps break all the time as a result of Android updates. But the kicker is at work the software is often ancient and is never ever updated and certainly not free.
Blowing money to rewrite Sap and hire guys replacing good hardware components because of driver model changes every 6 months is not business friendly. Infact, I would recommend sticking with Windows 7 at this point even though it is near EOL until Microsoft hires their QA department back (they eliminated in the name of Agile and put in telemetry and smily and frown faces instead). Windows 10 to me is for home PCs and vms in testing still 2 years later.
When you outsource your whole IT department early last decade all you find are Indians to promote. Especially true due to a lack of American talent as the previous ones became truck drivers before they could be promoted.
It's really bad in Silicon Valley. After an IPO the white Americans leave for another startup to cash up and cheap outsourced Indians come in to replace them. Look at the bugs in Windows, Oracle, VMWARE workstation after large numbers of developers have been replaced with cheaper alternatives
Ie was cutting edge and more standards compliant than Netscape 4.7. No I am not freaking kidding!
The race of the browsers in the 1990s put in shoddy bloated code without time to check to beat the other guys browser.
Chrome is following IE. It is making up standards and tying an ecosystem of closed products and using it take it into other markets. Sounds familiar. This is just the start. As it is Google is really meeting with Microsoft to implement standards for video and touch which are slightly different than the W3C.
I do not like this and we need an alternative fast. No Firefox doesn't count.
Take (for example) Google's newfound habit of "updating" their webfonts. How many layouts have they broken in the process? Millions.
If your website breaks because the font changes then it's not Google who deserves to be tared and feathered, but the web designer.
Bahaha you never wrote code last decade when IE was all the rage for intranet and internet sites:-)
If the VP can't read your site in IE 6 your contract was reviewed. He doesn't even know what IE even is as the E standards for internet in his 60 year old eyes. What he knows is your site failed to deliver. YOU get tared and feathered as the web designer!
Many geeks after 2 years started doing other things back in those days after situations like that which gave IE especially on slashdot a bad name. But yes, many contracts state the site will do A, B, and C and web designers can now be fired and sued for failing to deliver on past work THANKS to fucking Google changing the standard after the project is done.
That is shitty coding and cheap ass web developers who use ancient pre 2012 versions of Adobe Creative suite (not rented version). What Chrome does is use -webkit or -blink lines in CSS for experimental standards in W3c back early this decade as standards can change (as what happened with IE 6).
So Adobe now fixes this and coders can use the correct CSS implentations but they kept the -webkit and -blink code and never updated it or Adobe is from 2011 and they do not want to pay for a newer version which uses the W3C standard CSS and instead use the ancient Chrome -webkit tags instead.
An important thing to remember about Internet Explorer is that on of the reasons why it rendered everything is because it was happy to take extremely garbage, malformed HTML and find a way to make it work. You could make a compliant site, but IE made it easy to be lazy. It was the web designers that didn't have to follow standards—IE would render standards compliant sites well too.
Don't get me wrong, IE was a blight and I'm glad that it's basically dead. The user experience was terrible and it made the web a worse place to be. But in some ways, it was the exact opposite of what we see here: a system so fault tolerant that it doesn't care what you're doing.
Bahaha BS. Not attacking you but IE 6 most certainly did not render standards compliant sites. In this decade it actually started to do so. But many many organizations stuck with XP because IE 6 and IE 7 was so widespread across the enterprise that the sites would work in nothing else. I remember when Ebay also only worked in IE and not Firefox. Firefox was too small and the world ran on IE not web standards etc.
If you were a developer back then you had to increase your time 300%. You write the site for web standards. Then rewrite it for IE 6. Then rewrite it again for IE 7, BUT the client only wanted to pay you to do it once. Grrr
Which is why alot of cheap Indian shops just wrote it for IE 6 as it cost too much to make it standards compliant AND have it work in IE without formatting bugs and javascript dying. It was a terrible terrible mess that lasted for 12 freaking years.
The actuaries aren't so good at code, other than mostly recorded macros. They are good at creating horrifying Excel formulas, think something longer than 1K characters.
And this is mostly for data production/preparation for loads and such. There are good (meaning expensive) modeling products for both Life and Property lines, which they use (job on the line type of stuff).
Anyway, I was a life actuary for a bit back in the day. Excel is a favorite tool, and it is abused like nothing else.
Excel 2010 was the pinnacle of Excel, before the ribbon and all of the keyboard shortcuts disappearing. Nothing of value has been added since then except for advanced pivot stuff.
I just hit the alt key in 2016 and I see the shortcuts just fine. Wait did you mean the old shortcut method? The one where you had to go through a catagory of menus? The new one is better as you hit the alt and it previews what the next letters and numbers are for each ribbon object.
Also VBA is depcriated for VSTO. I never used it yet, but it is powerful and I believe is.NET based.
Also R&D is on Microsoft's side on this one with 85% of new feature requests were from features already there. After moving to the ribbon it went down to closer to 20%. It was a success.
So in other words, you think it's better because it panders to people who can't find their own ass because they were sitting on it? I'll stick with something that doesn't eat up 20% of my vertical screen space on a wide-screen laptop display.
Yep. The ribbon is a superior UI component for the majority of people and for myself. You can auto hide the ribbon too in Office 2016 if you are concerned with space. 20% screen real estate is excessive.
But the reason I don't use Libraoffice is because it lacks the ribbon and it still is missing some functionality.
If you learn it and open your mind you may find it is better than the other method with a nightmare of nested menus and doing undo/redo since it lacks previews.
I am of course being sarcastic, and while I'm not claiming that 2003 was the pinnacle of UI design, I do think a large number of heard learned lessons from the 80s and 90s have been forgotten and/or thrown under the bus in the name of newness.
You mean like going through catogories of categories of menus on Word 2003. I hated that back then.
What the ribbons can do is preview changes without selecting them. Word is my least favorite Microsoft product of the Office suite. Its formatting bugs are notorious. One of the things i like to do is move the mouse cursor over a style or paste to preview what it looks like. If it fucks it up I move the mouse over to paste (text only) etc.
Also R&D is on Microsoft's side on this one with 85% of new feature requests were from features already there. After moving to the ribbon it went down to closer to 20%. It was a success.
It took me over a week to change guys. Jesus LEARN you are all IT professionals here and slashdot should be the least place on the internet for those set in their ways. It is not oatmeal.org news for grandpas stuff that is old.
I understand you all maybe used to something, but I also like how the ribbon can show keyboard shortcuts (beats LibreOffice and Office 2003) by hitting alt. SO no more hitting alt and sorting through menus upon menus if you are on a tiny airplane seat with no mouse. Just hit "alt" and select the letter you want DONE.
I do not want to go back at all. The only thing that pisses me off is the formatting bugs in Word and awkwardness of Outlook but that is unrelated.
They are not backed by real world goods, so the value can easily go to zero
Fiat currency is backed by productivity: there's so much of it and it's standardized, so it represents everything produced and sold in a time frame. Digital currency... is hype. The strategy is literally "it becomes more-scarce as more is made, so it's worth more dollars because more people want it yet there's less of it!"
Pfft you mean we have to work for a living! I want my money?! Screw that I want to get rich without working. Isn't that what everyone else wants and why crypto-currencies like the stock market before it are filled with players.
If you got mine and the other guy didn't then you owe it to make more to make sure you stay rich
We already made book keepers which was once a high paying profession to $10/HR with little demand that can be done overseas or by Excel with Macros.
We have sites like Wix that have already lowered web developer salaries.
Once computers can program themselves with a PHB and a template generator why do they need programmers? They cost money and complain all the time about a livable wage. That and robots taking the other end of the jobs we are seeing wages and job openings fall.
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It seems that using whatever young people are using is sufficient merit for you. Your father has to be wrong because (the only factual statement in your posting) is 70 years old.
Not that I care to defend Firefox anymore, but wouldn't it be refreshing for you to face your own age and accept the fact that time passes and you should stop worrying about it ?
I made the biased assumption based on some evidence that older people are resistant to change as the brain ages it's willingness to learn and memorize new things diminishes. I am 41 and am an old far. True I have trouble with newer GUI's as it is compared to younger folks.
But I noticed when a change is positive the older people for example also LOVE IE as an example because anything else looks funny. XP was GOD posts here were mostly older folks.
Time does pass yet I am careful to move with it when I see a benefit. But there is a big gap in opinion with mobile apps on Windows 10. Young people thing that and flat UI's are neat and useful. Older folks have an opposite reaction with some even preferring the Windows95 classic look which the ones I have met are near 50 and over. They swear they no more than the younger folks thru wisdom when it looks so dated.
What you are talking about is a hostile work environment.
You do not need that to be bullied. I see people going out of their way above your heads to get fired, work sabotage, those laughing and humiliating you in front of coworkers, and even customers.
I have seen managers give me 80 hours a week of work at me and laugh because they think it's funny and mention I know you are not good standing with your boss. Do this or I will call him etc. The work didn't even need to be done. This was very bad as it was constant and was done to fuck with me.
These can all be bullying. NO snowflake as not everyone has the ability to quit bad environments like this. I went on medication and therapy from that job.
Thankfully the assholes left after 2 years but the damage it done to my reputation was irreparable and after I had experience on my resume I was happy to leave.
Really? YOu never worked with assholes, insane psychopathic VPs or project managers, or coworkers who shout loud how they love pussy and picking girls while you and your whole department look bad?
I don't believe you. I experienced it all and I guess unless I did programming (I was dumb enough to listen to slashdotters 15 years ago say India would take my jobs so drop computer science) and went into a more high demand field I can't do jack about it like 90% of most people.
We have bills to pay. I have quit one job and almost quit another or was almost fired depending on who you talk to for political reasons on pissing contests for things above my head.
Work can really suck man.
Also those who work with customers and or clients know they can be assholes too because they have you by the balls. You say NO they call your bosses boss and ask for a new employee. Since they are the customer you are fired as they are God since they have gold who can make the rules.
I find this hard to believe I am an outliner in this as bullies in the playground as a child stay bullies in the workplace. The trick is to grow a pair of balls and take it so they go after someone else in a position of weakness
give in and switch to the path of least resistance
Which is.. to keep using Firefox? Firefox's WebExtensions API offers more than Chrome's does (see the browser comparison tables). The claims that Firefox is a "Chrome clone" are silly.
uBlock Origin works better in Firefox 57 than possible in Chrome (gorhill is the developer of uBlock Origin). Firefox's webRequest API was extended for NoScript's use (and it will use it when it gets released in a couple of days).
This reminds me of the old Emacs joke posted here. It goes Yeah I love Emacs. It's a great OS it just comes with a shitty text editor.
As a browser webkit beat it a very long time ago regardless of plugins. To me I view Firefox like RealNetworks realplayer or winamp. I heard both are better or were I should say, but who cares this is 2017 the world has moved on. I have not run it many years and neither have my coworkers. My 70 year old father is the only person I am aware of who still uses it.
I do not mean this as offensive to the remaining Firefox users. I really don't. I was once a fanboy since the days of Phoenix. I realistically do not see it mattering anymore nor ever coming back just like the legacy products listed above. ... ok Emacs is still going strong with the older IT nerd crowd and is not going away:-).
Sorry, but all evidence shown so far seems to indicate Kaspersky software works just fine, Not caused system compromises, AND
any case where Kaspersky "exposed" or "leaked" secret files were Kaspersky working like it's supposed to --- not Kaspersky violating any privacy expectations; you
just don't get to run "secret" potentially-malicious programs on desktop computers without the possibility of malware samples of your suspicious code going to the AV vendor for analysis.... I can accept that, and I think most people SHOULD accept that with zero objections.
Yep all a vast liberal conspiracy with 0 evidence from other parties that Russian intelligence has been using Kaspersky at all because Trump has an R next so any negative news must be by the democrats.
It is not like a foreign independent intelligence agency found any proof of this at all.
Sorry, but all evidence shown so far seems to indicate Kaspersky software works just fine, Not caused system compromises, AND
any case where Kaspersky "exposed" or "leaked" secret files were Kaspersky working like it's supposed to --- not Kaspersky violating any privacy expectations; you
just don't get to run "secret" potentially-malicious programs on desktop computers without the possibility of malware samples of your suspicious code going to the AV vendor for analysis.... I can accept that, and I think most people SHOULD accept that with zero objections.
Yep all a vast liberal conspiracy with 0 evidence from other parties that Russian intelligence has been using Kaspersky at all because Trump has an R next so any negative news must be by the democrats.
ActiveX controls are soo last decade. I was not even referring to that as IE 11 is standards compliant. Just not cutting edge as Microsoft has moved on with Edge and was tired of the stale bug ridden legacy code of IE.
My guess is activeX is required because the smartcarders were made in China. China is legacy IE on XP for banking because of 1997 US export encryption laws. They were lifted 17 years ago! But many banks who didn't have encryption used activeX controls as a workarounds for the lack of secure encryption. Since everyone pirates in China they used XP with Windows Update enabled which means IE 6.
IE 6 is finally starting to go away in China, but the millions and millions of lines of code and manufactures are addicted to ActiveX still to this day. Security cameras sold today designed in China also require IE. Chrome is not popular at all and it is a different world. Korea too has a little high IE usage and lower Chrome usage as well.
It will be many many many years just like with IE 6 before you can use modern standards if IE is still on any corporate desktop.
I mean to answer phones at a help desk role surely requires the right answer like do you own a shed with a drafting table and how quickly you can organize puzzle pieces questions in 3 mins.
More stuff to disable on the work computers around here, until they fix all the bugs and security issues. Then more questions from the users about "why can't we have that airdrop thing?" and more of me being the 'bad guy' by telling them 'no you can't have it'.
Since Windows is so good in the workgroup, why not just use the LAN!?
Until you get calls from your users asking you to help them get their Skype for Business bluetooth headsets working for their meetings.
Shoot. I was just starting to like the new Microsoft after Windows 7 and the failure of gnome3 for a desktop OS (not server). Windows was finally stable, gorgeous, and after Balmer released .NET core for Linux, SQL Server for Linux, R for Linux, Microsoft Code, and included Python and Android emulators with Visual Studio.
Hell froze over and finally MS is getting with the times.
Windows 8.1 was fine if you had a start menu replacement which was annoying as hell, but lighter than 7 and ran much better with mobile battery life. Even IE is now usable and medocre from a previous abomination. Well my opinion changed with Windows 10. Not that I can't handle change as I think a Windows 8 tile in a start menu is what MS should have included with 8 and 10 got that right. I am not even complaining about Edge was is actually competitive with Firefox and Chrome in terms of compliance and plugins.
What pisses me off is Windows 10 is like a never ending beta. It seems they copied the Ubuntu style channels with current, current for business, and the really long term one which is more akin to Redhat. Things BREAK. Ivybridge ethernet cards are no longer supported out of the blue. Holy crap! Seriously INtel graphics don't have drivers too from 2012 era hardware if you update to the creators update. So now I need to buy 5,000 nvidia 710 GPUs and hire temps just to install them WTF.
I am re-imaging my workstation right now. Reason? The fall creators update can't get IPv4 addresses from my so called ancient 2014 era haswel Intel chepset 219 another WTF. My Server 2016 DCs on Windows 10 Hyper-V can't be promoted to a DC anymore without DFSLR failing with the fall update either complaining of a network error even though the VM can access the internet fine. As a test I installed an old copy of VMWare Workstation 11 and the test Server 2016 VM can be promoted to a domain controller just fine so I know it is not me or the hardware.
For a large corporation with 20,000 desktops from 2 vendors with 8 variations of models this is unacceptable and a nightmare to manage.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE the new updates as XP was ridiculous as it was 13 years old! But this is the other extreme. An enterprise endpoint is alot more complex than a cell phone. MS is treating Windows like an Android OS. Sometimes apps break all the time as a result of Android updates. But the kicker is at work the software is often ancient and is never ever updated and certainly not free.
Blowing money to rewrite Sap and hire guys replacing good hardware components because of driver model changes every 6 months is not business friendly. Infact, I would recommend sticking with Windows 7 at this point even though it is near EOL until Microsoft hires their QA department back (they eliminated in the name of Agile and put in telemetry and smily and frown faces instead). Windows 10 to me is for home PCs and vms in testing still 2 years later.
When you outsource your whole IT department early last decade all you find are Indians to promote. Especially true due to a lack of American talent as the previous ones became truck drivers before they could be promoted.
It's really bad in Silicon Valley. After an IPO the white Americans leave for another startup to cash up and cheap outsourced Indians come in to replace them. Look at the bugs in Windows, Oracle, VMWARE workstation after large numbers of developers have been replaced with cheaper alternatives
Ie was cutting edge and more standards compliant than Netscape 4.7. No I am not freaking kidding!
The race of the browsers in the 1990s put in shoddy bloated code without time to check to beat the other guys browser.
Chrome is following IE. It is making up standards and tying an ecosystem of closed products and using it take it into other markets. Sounds familiar. This is just the start. As it is Google is really meeting with Microsoft to implement standards for video and touch which are slightly different than the W3C.
I do not like this and we need an alternative fast. No Firefox doesn't count.
Take (for example) Google's newfound habit of "updating" their webfonts. How many layouts have they broken in the process? Millions.
If your website breaks because the font changes then it's not Google who deserves to be tared and feathered, but the web designer.
Bahaha you never wrote code last decade when IE was all the rage for intranet and internet sites :-)
If the VP can't read your site in IE 6 your contract was reviewed. He doesn't even know what IE even is as the E standards for internet in his 60 year old eyes. What he knows is your site failed to deliver. YOU get tared and feathered as the web designer!
Many geeks after 2 years started doing other things back in those days after situations like that which gave IE especially on slashdot a bad name. But yes, many contracts state the site will do A, B, and C and web designers can now be fired and sued for failing to deliver on past work THANKS to fucking Google changing the standard after the project is done.
Actually that is not the slider.
That is shitty coding and cheap ass web developers who use ancient pre 2012 versions of Adobe Creative suite (not rented version). What Chrome does is use -webkit or -blink lines in CSS for experimental standards in W3c back early this decade as standards can change (as what happened with IE 6).
So Adobe now fixes this and coders can use the correct CSS implentations but they kept the -webkit and -blink code and never updated it or Adobe is from 2011 and they do not want to pay for a newer version which uses the W3C standard CSS and instead use the ancient Chrome -webkit tags instead.
Since Opera isn't webkit it doesn't read the CSS
An important thing to remember about Internet Explorer is that on of the reasons why it rendered everything is because it was happy to take extremely garbage, malformed HTML and find a way to make it work. You could make a compliant site, but IE made it easy to be lazy. It was the web designers that didn't have to follow standards—IE would render standards compliant sites well too.
Don't get me wrong, IE was a blight and I'm glad that it's basically dead. The user experience was terrible and it made the web a worse place to be. But in some ways, it was the exact opposite of what we see here: a system so fault tolerant that it doesn't care what you're doing.
Bahaha BS. Not attacking you but IE 6 most certainly did not render standards compliant sites. In this decade it actually started to do so. But many many organizations stuck with XP because IE 6 and IE 7 was so widespread across the enterprise that the sites would work in nothing else. I remember when Ebay also only worked in IE and not Firefox. Firefox was too small and the world ran on IE not web standards etc.
If you were a developer back then you had to increase your time 300%. You write the site for web standards. Then rewrite it for IE 6. Then rewrite it again for IE 7, BUT the client only wanted to pay you to do it once. Grrr
Which is why alot of cheap Indian shops just wrote it for IE 6 as it cost too much to make it standards compliant AND have it work in IE without formatting bugs and javascript dying. It was a terrible terrible mess that lasted for 12 freaking years.
Go to file -> account -> Update Options -> Update and then restart your PC. This will upgrade both Office as well as OneDrive for business.
The actuaries aren't so good at code, other than mostly recorded macros. They are good at creating horrifying Excel formulas, think something longer than 1K characters.
And this is mostly for data production/preparation for loads and such. There are good (meaning expensive) modeling products for both Life and Property lines, which they use (job on the line type of stuff).
Anyway, I was a life actuary for a bit back in the day. Excel is a favorite tool, and it is abused like nothing else.
Excel 2010 was the pinnacle of Excel, before the ribbon and all of the keyboard shortcuts disappearing. Nothing of value has been added since then except for advanced pivot stuff.
I just hit the alt key in 2016 and I see the shortcuts just fine. Wait did you mean the old shortcut method? The one where you had to go through a catagory of menus? The new one is better as you hit the alt and it previews what the next letters and numbers are for each ribbon object.
Also VBA is depcriated for VSTO. I never used it yet, but it is powerful and I believe is .NET based.
Also R&D is on Microsoft's side on this one with 85% of new feature requests were from features already there. After moving to the ribbon it went down to closer to 20%. It was a success.
So in other words, you think it's better because it panders to people who can't find their own ass because they were sitting on it? I'll stick with something that doesn't eat up 20% of my vertical screen space on a wide-screen laptop display.
Yep. The ribbon is a superior UI component for the majority of people and for myself. You can auto hide the ribbon too in Office 2016 if you are concerned with space. 20% screen real estate is excessive.
But the reason I don't use Libraoffice is because it lacks the ribbon and it still is missing some functionality.
If you learn it and open your mind you may find it is better than the other method with a nightmare of nested menus and doing undo/redo since it lacks previews.
The UI is so 2003. Not doin' it.
As in, it works and is clear and discoverable?
I am of course being sarcastic, and while I'm not claiming that 2003 was the pinnacle of UI design, I do think a large number of heard learned lessons from the 80s and 90s have been forgotten and/or thrown under the bus in the name of newness.
You mean like going through catogories of categories of menus on Word 2003. I hated that back then.
What the ribbons can do is preview changes without selecting them. Word is my least favorite Microsoft product of the Office suite. Its formatting bugs are notorious. One of the things i like to do is move the mouse cursor over a style or paste to preview what it looks like. If it fucks it up I move the mouse over to paste (text only) etc.
Also R&D is on Microsoft's side on this one with 85% of new feature requests were from features already there. After moving to the ribbon it went down to closer to 20%. It was a success.
It took me over a week to change guys. Jesus LEARN you are all IT professionals here and slashdot should be the least place on the internet for those set in their ways. It is not oatmeal.org news for grandpas stuff that is old.
I understand you all maybe used to something, but I also like how the ribbon can show keyboard shortcuts (beats LibreOffice and Office 2003) by hitting alt. SO no more hitting alt and sorting through menus upon menus if you are on a tiny airplane seat with no mouse. Just hit "alt" and select the letter you want DONE.
I do not want to go back at all. The only thing that pisses me off is the formatting bugs in Word and awkwardness of Outlook but that is unrelated.
They are not backed by real world goods, so the value can easily go to zero
Fiat currency is backed by productivity: there's so much of it and it's standardized, so it represents everything produced and sold in a time frame. Digital currency ... is hype. The strategy is literally "it becomes more-scarce as more is made, so it's worth more dollars because more people want it yet there's less of it!"
Pfft you mean we have to work for a living! I want my money?! Screw that I want to get rich without working. Isn't that what everyone else wants and why crypto-currencies like the stock market before it are filled with players.
If you got mine and the other guy didn't then you owe it to make more to make sure you stay rich
We already made book keepers which was once a high paying profession to $10/HR with little demand that can be done overseas or by Excel with Macros.
We have sites like Wix that have already lowered web developer salaries.
Once computers can program themselves with a PHB and a template generator why do they need programmers? They cost money and complain all the time about a livable wage. That and robots taking the other end of the jobs we are seeing wages and job openings fall.
I will let the other guy know too about the article
Seems to run Azure just fine.
It could be an outbound issue, like a DNS server. That would also explain why the outage covers multiple regions.
I can confirm. I changed my DNS settings and all is good again. GO use OpenDNS it is free and you can google it for home or small business use.