If any city in the US did this the carriers would be SCREAMING SOCIALISM!!... and funding every politican and their brothers to ban and stop this assault on capitalism at all cost and probably then lobbying congress to add anti free WIFI in SOPA or something stupid.
Maybe in Europe the governments there actually listen to their citizens and not corporate lobbiests and vote only on the behalf of corporations? I was just watching the Star Wars prequel tonight and the US and Canada are starting to look just like the final days of the old republic before it fell to the empire. Inept government totally rotten to the core gave way to many supporting the empire.... anyway do not want to go offtopic with that rant but thought of it when reading this article pretty much expecting this to be outrageous and political suicide. That is pretty sad if you ask me.
They suck for doing work or even writting witty responses in slashdot.:-)
I replied on Andriod and I always get responses critizing grammar and sentence structure etc. A keyboard rocks for college students writing papers. However, for consuming time wasting tweets a cell phone is better.
For now desktops rule for work but I expect that to change once Windows 9 puts the taskbar back (corporate America will shun Metro like it did Vista) and Office 2012 comes out METRO-ized it might become competitive for poor people.
For $439 you can get a AMD Llano laptop with even enough GPU to run SWTOR under medium settings believe it or not. Once they hit $399 they are in the same pricing as medium grade tablets so my guess is college students will buy them to game and write papers. This assumes they do not waste their student loans buying macs like 70% seem to do.
"Michael Dell has a vested interest in telling people that PCs will rule forever"
Well he also should have a vested interest in making sure he does not miss out on the tablet market which is Dell's number one threat.
Take a look at this statistic from poorer, but high-tech India? Yep, that is right. By April more Indians will use a phone/tablet than a desktop to browse the net, answer emails, run skype, etc.
Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe is where the growth markets are. These people will use phones and not PCS for internet access as this link shows.
Even back in the 1st workd, once people realize you do not need a big expensive bulky crappy Windows desktop they will stop using them. Then what Dell? I hope it has a plan?
IBM tried to stop servers, spread FUD showing every business with more than 50 people needs a mainframe, etc. How well did that work?
India cited is just an example of where by this spring more Indians will use IOS or Andriod to read the news, browse the net, and do other things than a desktop!
The US is a mature market where people only buy new equipment when it breaks down. No growth market here. Just look at backward corporate America being run by CFOs dirt cheap on believing any investment in tech like newer than IE 6 is always an expense and not an investment? Consumers are poorer now than ever and feel no need to upgrade. India in comparison is a HUGE growth market, as well as the rest of Asia and Eastern Europe and is where the money is. Dell will only be relevant in some offices and government buildings, while their citizens will prefer tablets, phones, and netbooks. Also most employers in these countries are much smaller and do not mind running it on a phone or tablet unlike the US. They simply do not have the capital to buy 2-3 desktops running full versions of Office, Quickbooks, Windows etc.
If Michael Dell wont tap into that market a competitor will. I would sell Dell stock if I owned any right now. You can hate tablet UIs like Metro all you want. The real money is in these devices and PC is going the way of the mini computer and mainframe FAST.
The keyboard and mouse is probably going to go away too as Windows 8 is frustrating and almost useless with it. We will all be using our screens as big cell phones running only one app at a time, unless MS makes BIG changes to metro like porting the taskbar. Without that and overlapping Windows I am holding out on Windows 7 myself. However, if I were only making $4600 a year in India, a smartphone would be a much better bet for me.
The reason for this awkward writing style is that LOTR did not start out as a planned novel like The Hobbit. Tolkien had requests from friends and associates to write a Middle Earth book describing The Hobbit's history, and artifacts. Notice the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring talks about dedicated this book about Hobbits as one example? In his companion book he kept writing more and more about Bilbo's ring until it morphed into LOTR story.
He then rewrote the material into the LOTR. That is why you see things play out normally, then all of the sudden the narration goes a little off topic in sloppy form about some point in history or piece of geography. The other fluff was from the original work that he just cut and pasted in (or typed in considering it was in the days of the typewriter) so it appears erratic. I mean the hobbits colonizing land after Weathertop Mountain 2000 years earlier is relevant how?
Liability too. What if the employer gets sued for wrongful termination or sexual harrasement? Every email would need to be subpeoned.... oops what this person did it from a personal IPhone with her gmail account and there is no record! Cha-ching $10 million rewarded to X, as it is evident the employer was negligent to allow IPhones on network to hide all their horrible deeds etc! You would be surprised what the lawyers can conjure for something like this is not silly at all.
Employers have a right to be assholes. You are there to work and not play with the latest toys. They have a right to know what is going on and manage their data and employees. That is just life and liability, legal, as well as them supporting your systems in a prompt manner so you can get work done is their responsibility and not yours.
Is your employer responsible for car repairs to get you to work too? Where does it end?
Then why is Slashdot still accepting stories written by him?
He is a troll and just an average Joe trying to flamebait his way to hits to CIONetworkWorld mag or whatever it is. He is an idiot and not an actual I.T. visionary, editor, or CIO who is qualified to write a well documented article relevant to I.T. in the enterprise.
To keep it simple I.T. exists for a reason. It exists to manage computers and networks so the business can make money. If employees manage it then it defeats the purpose of I.T. in the first place. It is a liability issue too and not just a legal one.
What if a sexual harrasement lawsuit happened and every email needed to be subpoened? Ooops... thats what I thought. $10 million dollar judgement won Cha-ching! The guy who wrote that ariticle is an idiot who obviously not ever worked in I.T. before
Well once someone leaves and brags about finding another job was sooo easy now that the great recession is over and how they can get more money, the other employees will jump ship too. You can't hold onto this forever once the dam breaks so to speak.
The UK is entering into recession now, but the US is going out finally as employers are adding new jobs. When the boom times were here in 1999 we ripped off our employers by demanding $100,000 a year to write code, DBAing various database projects, and calling in sick and taking vacations etc. When the market ballanced those folks got laid off FAST.
Now the employers had the ball and some are getting greedy too like this one. They will get screwed over and had it coming as employees will and can leave when there is better opportunity. It is funny, that they act all shocked. Bad abusive managers need to be fired and they need to hire more workers and pay their existing ones more as the ball is now coming back into a more balanced arrangements where the employees have more bargaining power.
I have no sympathies for such employers. It sounds like many of us needed a lesson in the early 2000s, and now in the early 2010s the corporations need a lesson on greed and having a more 2 way street mentality. Good management realizes this and planes for people leaving as much as they hate it.
At the same time competition is updating rapidly and finally maturing. This is a return to the 1990s. Corporations got used to the great recession and slow 2000s and do not want to go back.
Corporations need to budge and update anually at least. MS has it correct in that IE will now be updated every year. Mozilla needs to slow down as well. I think anual updates are reasonable for both parties as long as radical changes are not introduced. Chrome renders pretty much the same unlike IE. With IE being so different with the bugs and logic in the rendering engines of different releases made employers freak out about browsers.
What a shame. It should never be like this and hopefully in the future newer browsers will simply add more features or performance rather than break shit. I think the browser 2.0 wars will do this. FF is the oddball in its addons.
Mozilla didn't re-enact the enterprise working group until August of last year. At that point it was too late. Just read the comments from slashdotters using FF at work?
Corporations listening to ASA in press releases from zdnet (which owns PCMag and various other I.T. magazines) made corporations want to go back to MS. Microsoft responded by a written letter of assurance promising 10 years of obsolete browser support. Many corporate clients have downgraded based on Asa's big mouth and the constant change.The letter made IE look like a much better choice not to mention IE 9 is tolerable and is current with the other latest generation browsers. FF 3.6 has last decades javascript compiler which is an order of magnitudes slower than even IE 9s.
You can't change a proxy setting via a GPO. You can with an image but employees do not want to have their desktops re-imaged for something so silly as an updated PAC file. This not an option either if you have hundreds of employees as it would require physically going in each desktop to boot from the LAN to do this. Still running FF 4.0 (an example) is not actively supported and has no security fixes. This makes corporations uneasy. They are in the business of making widgets and doing all the processes of making a widget and selling it. Not upgrading browsers.
I used to love FF and be a big advocate. If I were the CIO or CEO of Mozilla I would fire Asa and hire a new marketing team to brand FF enterprise edition with GPO offer a letter of support and name it after a year like FF 2012 edition based on a particular version of FF like like version 10 etc. With the 300 million from Google and more from Bing they now have the money to do the QA that people like. I bet many slashdotters would prefer such as myself. The quality of FF is not too my liking anymore.
In UEFI only signed binaries can run at bootup. This will make it harder to flash itself. Not impossible but a big pain in the ass to say the least.
MS could use UEFI signed binaries bootup protection and then refuse to boot if the crc of all the files is not the same. This will prevent any tampering of any malware trying to insert itself. However if you make a restore copy with the machine already infected then it will infect itself that way still. But a clean factory image is certainly possible.
We already have these features in Windows 7 depending on your OEM. Only a few pieces of malware manage to copy themselves though as it is not easy to do. I still wipe the disk clean to be safe on my machine rather than restore from a hidden partition if I am known to be hit.
I will be always thankfully for Mozilla to free us. GPO didn't matter as corporations in 2005 drank the MS coolaide and wanted to bet on the winner which was IE 6. It had 90% marketshare so why use this freeware firebird thingie!?
GPO became popular just a few years ago as active directory was just starting to take off in 2005. FF is what opened the web and so did Apple's IPhone. Mozilla had decent management until both the CIO and CEO left early last year and ASA kind of took over.
Speed? Go google Peackemaker benchmarks and run it compare it to IE 9 and Chrome?
Hell, even IE 9 is 20x faster than FF 3.6 in javascript benchmarks
! Its javascript compiler is outdated compared to the JIT ones in current generation browsers. With AJAX everywhere I would not want to run FF 3.6 anymore.
It is obsolete and last decade in terms of technology. I hate the UI of Chrome and the quality of the new FF, but Chrome and IE 9 are much better for Google apps like their maps program.
Firefox 3.x has been having problems for awhile. FF 3.6 is most certainly not good, but rather tolerable compared to IE 7/8 if you have 2 gigs of ram, plus 4 core CPU. Chome and IE 9 came out killing it in addition to FF 4.0.
I occasionally used IE 8 just to see how it compared to FF 3.5 and was shocked to see it snappier in all but javascript intensive apps like Google Maps. Firefox 1.x was GREAT!
Actually FF was not great, but better than IE 6 in comparison. Now Chrome comes and is better. Firefox 2.x was more bloated but had some new features. FF 3.x was mediocre. IE and Chrome kept getting better. FF 3.6 is very SLOW on old machines and AJAX JQuery oriented sites. 4.0 mixed with poor management were both the final straws that spelled the doom of FF. IE 9 came out too which is the first good IE browser since 6. Yes IE 6 was good in 2001 as much as we hate it today.
Yeah 6 months late and most businesses have downgraded back to IE 7. I advise all corporate customers to use IE instead. Still no one outside of slashdot even knows this port exists. Asa even told corporate users that if it wants security fixes for 3.6 and 4.0, that 5.0 was THE security fix. Mozilla itself has publically stated it does have not the resources for QA and security fixes for older releases let alone new ones. FF has over 6k bugs and is updating its rendering engine rather than focusing on fixing them. They are closing security holes thankfully but still not acceptable in the enterprise. No I.T. worker wants to answer 900 calls saying that the corporate add-on for proxy settings broke as FF auto updated etc.
IE is what I recommend now. Sigh. Maybe not IE 7, but at least IE 8 and IE 9 are ok. IE 9 is a much better browser for corporations if they have upgraded to Wiindows 7 already. This year most will be migrating thankfully so this will be an option. The only corporations who have used Firefox were those who were stuck on IE 6 and had the brains to realize it was a liability for employees to use the internet with it so both are included.
With IE 9 they can use just one browser that is supported by GPO and MS. Mozilla had a multi personality disorder. Many in management listen but Asa comes out with press releases telling users to fsck themselves and please go use IE instead (yes he actually stated that in slashdot). Either way it is poor management and leadership and that is not something you want to bet yourself with in the enterprise.
You know there is more to life than only the employers point of view.
Employment is a 2-way street for both parties. Good employees bend over backwards for their employers and realize that their own needs do not matter to the employer and that its needs need to be addressed. Likewise a good employer realized employees have lives outside of work and that good talent needs a reason to stay loyal and will treat him/her with respect.
When one party only cares for itself that is when you have problems. Employers got a free ride from 2008 - 2011 and liked it. We got a free ried from 1998 - 2001. A correction is needed and employers need to stop whinning when they are the ones who advertise at-will-employment in their job postings who overwork, never give vacations, expect 70 hours a week, underpay, and all of the sudden act shock that employees are begining to look elsewhere as market conditions improve. Shocked! Well some programmers who wanted 90,000 a year and called in sick once a month got shafted too after 9-11!
Seems only fair that a good balance is needed. Employers need to stop thinking only of themselves and plan for things like this. Executives leaving is part of the job as they would not hesistate to fire an underperforming one themselves.
Employers are such hypocrites. You can't have a work at will clause and brag that is is essential to the relationship, then cry and get all fussy when an employee does the same thing and looks for better opportunities.
I think that should be illegal to retailate if you are unfortunate enough to be stuck in a at-will employment situation. As economic conditions improve outside of Europe more and more employees who have been underpaid, overworked, and treated due to at-will employment in the great recession will start to leave in large masses from 2012 - 2016 according to experts. Couldn't happen to nicer companies and yes they deserve to have their employees look elsewhere as employment really is a 2-way street and not one sided.
Employers who treat employees like shit want to keep them in line. THey do not want to train someone else or have you leave before they can find someone else to do your job.
Also since the economy is recovering you are getting mroe and more bargaining power month by month to demand higher wages and better working conditions. Same is true with replacements. If you had to take a job in 2009 for 40% less than your networth it means your employer has to pay market wages for your replacement when you leave. That would be terrible and would hurt your employers bottom line.
They want someone to do 2x the amount of work for 1/2 the price, never train, and always have work just get completed etc.
I predicted this in 2009 with employers who are stingy are going to get screwed over back by their employees in 2012 - 2016 when their workforce quits in mass. The money saved will be lost. These are all the reasons why employers do not like employees who leave, but yeah it is work at will for them to fire whenever they like etc.
Use IE. IE is tollerable at version 9 and is the most supported intranet browser which is only updated annually. Not sexy like Chrome, but you run a business and cant be bothered by constant upgrades.
You can put it in an image and have the imaged version check for updates on its own servers. Infact I worked for a school district who did this for 30,000 machines
There are some who are whining IE 6 is no longer supported after 10 years and refuse to upgrade. I guess its assumed the web hasnt changed at all on 10 years so why update?
IE 9 has anti-malware cross domain protection with something called protection lists. Under IE add-ons there is a protection list that includes ad servers as well which will do the same as adblock if you look for it on Microsoft's website.
I have seen web developers not use DOCTYPES which make IE go into quirks IE 6 mode. Another is xhtml where the hack of including MS-XML to trick IE 7/8 to work with it (does not support natively) will make IE 9 go into IE 7 mode. So they do the old hacks then still whine how bad IE 9 is and how it is no different because the hacks make IE 9 function like older versions of IE.
Do not do these 2 things and it renders like Firefox and Chrome with just a few issues here and there. It really is standards compliant
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I was thinking the same thing.
If any city in the US did this the carriers would be SCREAMING SOCIALISM!! ... and funding every politican and their brothers to ban and stop this assault on capitalism at all cost and probably then lobbying congress to add anti free WIFI in SOPA or something stupid.
Maybe in Europe the governments there actually listen to their citizens and not corporate lobbiests and vote only on the behalf of corporations? I was just watching the Star Wars prequel tonight and the US and Canada are starting to look just like the final days of the old republic before it fell to the empire. Inept government totally rotten to the core gave way to many supporting the empire. ... anyway do not want to go offtopic with that rant but thought of it when reading this article pretty much expecting this to be outrageous and political suicide. That is pretty sad if you ask me.
They suck for doing work or even writting witty responses in slashdot. :-)
I replied on Andriod and I always get responses critizing grammar and sentence structure etc. A keyboard rocks for college students writing papers. However, for consuming time wasting tweets a cell phone is better.
For now desktops rule for work but I expect that to change once Windows 9 puts the taskbar back (corporate America will shun Metro like it did Vista) and Office 2012 comes out METRO-ized it might become competitive for poor people.
For $439 you can get a AMD Llano laptop with even enough GPU to run SWTOR under medium settings believe it or not. Once they hit $399 they are in the same pricing as medium grade tablets so my guess is college students will buy them to game and write papers. This assumes they do not waste their student loans buying macs like 70% seem to do.
"Michael Dell has a vested interest in telling people that PCs will rule forever"
Well he also should have a vested interest in making sure he does not miss out on the tablet market which is Dell's number one threat.
Take a look at this statistic from poorer, but high-tech India? Yep, that is right. By April more Indians will use a phone/tablet than a desktop to browse the net, answer emails, run skype, etc.
Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe is where the growth markets are. These people will use phones and not PCS for internet access as this link shows.
Even back in the 1st workd, once people realize you do not need a big expensive bulky crappy Windows desktop they will stop using them. Then what Dell? I hope it has a plan?
IBM tried to stop servers, spread FUD showing every business with more than 50 people needs a mainframe, etc. How well did that work?
Maybe in the US you are right.
Check out internet usage in a poorer country that thrives on internet access compared to the US?
India cited is just an example of where by this spring more Indians will use IOS or Andriod to read the news, browse the net, and do other things than a desktop!
The US is a mature market where people only buy new equipment when it breaks down. No growth market here. Just look at backward corporate America being run by CFOs dirt cheap on believing any investment in tech like newer than IE 6 is always an expense and not an investment? Consumers are poorer now than ever and feel no need to upgrade. India in comparison is a HUGE growth market, as well as the rest of Asia and Eastern Europe and is where the money is. Dell will only be relevant in some offices and government buildings, while their citizens will prefer tablets, phones, and netbooks. Also most employers in these countries are much smaller and do not mind running it on a phone or tablet unlike the US. They simply do not have the capital to buy 2-3 desktops running full versions of Office, Quickbooks, Windows etc.
If Michael Dell wont tap into that market a competitor will. I would sell Dell stock if I owned any right now. You can hate tablet UIs like Metro all you want. The real money is in these devices and PC is going the way of the mini computer and mainframe FAST.
The keyboard and mouse is probably going to go away too as Windows 8 is frustrating and almost useless with it. We will all be using our screens as big cell phones running only one app at a time, unless MS makes BIG changes to metro like porting the taskbar. Without that and overlapping Windows I am holding out on Windows 7 myself. However, if I were only making $4600 a year in India, a smartphone would be a much better bet for me.
The reason for this awkward writing style is that LOTR did not start out as a planned novel like The Hobbit. Tolkien had requests from friends and associates to write a Middle Earth book describing The Hobbit's history, and artifacts. Notice the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring talks about dedicated this book about Hobbits as one example? In his companion book he kept writing more and more about Bilbo's ring until it morphed into LOTR story.
He then rewrote the material into the LOTR. That is why you see things play out normally, then all of the sudden the narration goes a little off topic in sloppy form about some point in history or piece of geography. The other fluff was from the original work that he just cut and pasted in (or typed in considering it was in the days of the typewriter) so it appears erratic. I mean the hobbits colonizing land after Weathertop Mountain 2000 years earlier is relevant how?
Liability too. What if the employer gets sued for wrongful termination or sexual harrasement? Every email would need to be subpeoned. ... oops what this person did it from a personal IPhone with her gmail account and there is no record! Cha-ching $10 million rewarded to X, as it is evident the employer was negligent to allow IPhones on network to hide all their horrible deeds etc! You would be surprised what the lawyers can conjure for something like this is not silly at all.
Employers have a right to be assholes. You are there to work and not play with the latest toys. They have a right to know what is going on and manage their data and employees. That is just life and liability, legal, as well as them supporting your systems in a prompt manner so you can get work done is their responsibility and not yours.
Is your employer responsible for car repairs to get you to work too? Where does it end?
Then why is Slashdot still accepting stories written by him?
He is a troll and just an average Joe trying to flamebait his way to hits to CIONetworkWorld mag or whatever it is. He is an idiot and not an actual I.T. visionary, editor, or CIO who is qualified to write a well documented article relevant to I.T. in the enterprise.
To keep it simple I.T. exists for a reason. It exists to manage computers and networks so the business can make money. If employees manage it then it defeats the purpose of I.T. in the first place. It is a liability issue too and not just a legal one.
What if a sexual harrasement lawsuit happened and every email needed to be subpoened? Ooops ... thats what I thought. $10 million dollar judgement won Cha-ching! The guy who wrote that ariticle is an idiot who obviously not ever worked in I.T. before
Go tell your OEMs that you are not a competitor? Gee, that will really make them want to leave Android for Windows Phone Mango. lol
Go look up OS/2 would be my advice. OS/2 beat the crap out of Windows 3.1 and even Windows 95. No OEM would touch it as IBM was a competitor.
Well once someone leaves and brags about finding another job was sooo easy now that the great recession is over and how they can get more money, the other employees will jump ship too. You can't hold onto this forever once the dam breaks so to speak.
The UK is entering into recession now, but the US is going out finally as employers are adding new jobs. When the boom times were here in 1999 we ripped off our employers by demanding $100,000 a year to write code, DBAing various database projects, and calling in sick and taking vacations etc. When the market ballanced those folks got laid off FAST.
Now the employers had the ball and some are getting greedy too like this one. They will get screwed over and had it coming as employees will and can leave when there is better opportunity. It is funny, that they act all shocked. Bad abusive managers need to be fired and they need to hire more workers and pay their existing ones more as the ball is now coming back into a more balanced arrangements where the employees have more bargaining power.
I have no sympathies for such employers. It sounds like many of us needed a lesson in the early 2000s, and now in the early 2010s the corporations need a lesson on greed and having a more 2 way street mentality. Good management realizes this and planes for people leaving as much as they hate it.
At the same time competition is updating rapidly and finally maturing. This is a return to the 1990s. Corporations got used to the great recession and slow 2000s and do not want to go back.
Corporations need to budge and update anually at least. MS has it correct in that IE will now be updated every year. Mozilla needs to slow down as well. I think anual updates are reasonable for both parties as long as radical changes are not introduced. Chrome renders pretty much the same unlike IE. With IE being so different with the bugs and logic in the rendering engines of different releases made employers freak out about browsers.
What a shame. It should never be like this and hopefully in the future newer browsers will simply add more features or performance rather than break shit. I think the browser 2.0 wars will do this. FF is the oddball in its addons.
Mozilla didn't re-enact the enterprise working group until August of last year. At that point it was too late. Just read the comments from slashdotters using FF at work?
Corporations listening to ASA in press releases from zdnet (which owns PCMag and various other I.T. magazines) made corporations want to go back to MS. Microsoft responded by a written letter of assurance promising 10 years of obsolete browser support. Many corporate clients have downgraded based on Asa's big mouth and the constant change.The letter made IE look like a much better choice not to mention IE 9 is tolerable and is current with the other latest generation browsers. FF 3.6 has last decades javascript compiler which is an order of magnitudes slower than even IE 9s.
You can't change a proxy setting via a GPO. You can with an image but employees do not want to have their desktops re-imaged for something so silly as an updated PAC file. This not an option either if you have hundreds of employees as it would require physically going in each desktop to boot from the LAN to do this. Still running FF 4.0 (an example) is not actively supported and has no security fixes. This makes corporations uneasy. They are in the business of making widgets and doing all the processes of making a widget and selling it. Not upgrading browsers.
I used to love FF and be a big advocate. If I were the CIO or CEO of Mozilla I would fire Asa and hire a new marketing team to brand FF enterprise edition with GPO offer a letter of support and name it after a year like FF 2012 edition based on a particular version of FF like like version 10 etc. With the 300 million from Google and more from Bing they now have the money to do the QA that people like. I bet many slashdotters would prefer such as myself. The quality of FF is not too my liking anymore.
In UEFI only signed binaries can run at bootup. This will make it harder to flash itself. Not impossible but a big pain in the ass to say the least.
MS could use UEFI signed binaries bootup protection and then refuse to boot if the crc of all the files is not the same. This will prevent any tampering of any malware trying to insert itself. However if you make a restore copy with the machine already infected then it will infect itself that way still. But a clean factory image is certainly possible.
We already have these features in Windows 7 depending on your OEM. Only a few pieces of malware manage to copy themselves though as it is not easy to do. I still wipe the disk clean to be safe on my machine rather than restore from a hidden partition if I am known to be hit.
Quite the opposite.
I will be always thankfully for Mozilla to free us. GPO didn't matter as corporations in 2005 drank the MS coolaide and wanted to bet on the winner which was IE 6. It had 90% marketshare so why use this freeware firebird thingie!?
GPO became popular just a few years ago as active directory was just starting to take off in 2005. FF is what opened the web and so did Apple's IPhone. Mozilla had decent management until both the CIO and CEO left early last year and ASA kind of took over.
Speed? Go google Peackemaker benchmarks and run it compare it to IE 9 and Chrome?
Hell, even IE 9 is 20x faster than FF 3.6 in javascript benchmarks
! Its javascript compiler is outdated compared to the JIT ones in current generation browsers. With AJAX everywhere I would not want to run FF 3.6 anymore.
It is obsolete and last decade in terms of technology. I hate the UI of Chrome and the quality of the new FF, but Chrome and IE 9 are much better for Google apps like their maps program.
Firefox 3.x has been having problems for awhile. FF 3.6 is most certainly not good, but rather tolerable compared to IE 7/8 if you have 2 gigs of ram, plus 4 core CPU. Chome and IE 9 came out killing it in addition to FF 4.0.
I occasionally used IE 8 just to see how it compared to FF 3.5 and was shocked to see it snappier in all but javascript intensive apps like Google Maps. Firefox 1.x was GREAT!
Actually FF was not great, but better than IE 6 in comparison. Now Chrome comes and is better. Firefox 2.x was more bloated but had some new features. FF 3.x was mediocre. IE and Chrome kept getting better. FF 3.6 is very SLOW on old machines and AJAX JQuery oriented sites. 4.0 mixed with poor management were both the final straws that spelled the doom of FF. IE 9 came out too which is the first good IE browser since 6. Yes IE 6 was good in 2001 as much as we hate it today.
Yeah 6 months late and most businesses have downgraded back to IE 7. I advise all corporate customers to use IE instead. Still no one outside of slashdot even knows this port exists. Asa even told corporate users that if it wants security fixes for 3.6 and 4.0, that 5.0 was THE security fix. Mozilla itself has publically stated it does have not the resources for QA and security fixes for older releases let alone new ones. FF has over 6k bugs and is updating its rendering engine rather than focusing on fixing them. They are closing security holes thankfully but still not acceptable in the enterprise. No I.T. worker wants to answer 900 calls saying that the corporate add-on for proxy settings broke as FF auto updated etc.
IE is what I recommend now. Sigh. Maybe not IE 7, but at least IE 8 and IE 9 are ok. IE 9 is a much better browser for corporations if they have upgraded to Wiindows 7 already. This year most will be migrating thankfully so this will be an option. The only corporations who have used Firefox were those who were stuck on IE 6 and had the brains to realize it was a liability for employees to use the internet with it so both are included.
With IE 9 they can use just one browser that is supported by GPO and MS. Mozilla had a multi personality disorder. Many in management listen but Asa comes out with press releases telling users to fsck themselves and please go use IE instead (yes he actually stated that in slashdot). Either way it is poor management and leadership and that is not something you want to bet yourself with in the enterprise.
Who cares who he was. Even a janitor should have the right to seek elsewhere and not have the employer cry when employment is a 2 way street.
You know there is more to life than only the employers point of view.
Employment is a 2-way street for both parties. Good employees bend over backwards for their employers and realize that their own needs do not matter to the employer and that its needs need to be addressed. Likewise a good employer realized employees have lives outside of work and that good talent needs a reason to stay loyal and will treat him/her with respect.
When one party only cares for itself that is when you have problems. Employers got a free ride from 2008 - 2011 and liked it. We got a free ried from 1998 - 2001. A correction is needed and employers need to stop whinning when they are the ones who advertise at-will-employment in their job postings who overwork, never give vacations, expect 70 hours a week, underpay, and all of the sudden act shock that employees are begining to look elsewhere as market conditions improve. Shocked! Well some programmers who wanted 90,000 a year and called in sick once a month got shafted too after 9-11!
Seems only fair that a good balance is needed. Employers need to stop thinking only of themselves and plan for things like this. Executives leaving is part of the job as they would not hesistate to fire an underperforming one themselves.
Still one has the right to look.
Employers are such hypocrites. You can't have a work at will clause and brag that is is essential to the relationship, then cry and get all fussy when an employee does the same thing and looks for better opportunities.
I think that should be illegal to retailate if you are unfortunate enough to be stuck in a at-will employment situation. As economic conditions improve outside of Europe more and more employees who have been underpaid, overworked, and treated due to at-will employment in the great recession will start to leave in large masses from 2012 - 2016 according to experts. Couldn't happen to nicer companies and yes they deserve to have their employees look elsewhere as employment really is a 2-way street and not one sided.
Employers who treat employees like shit want to keep them in line. THey do not want to train someone else or have you leave before they can find someone else to do your job.
Also since the economy is recovering you are getting mroe and more bargaining power month by month to demand higher wages and better working conditions. Same is true with replacements. If you had to take a job in 2009 for 40% less than your networth it means your employer has to pay market wages for your replacement when you leave. That would be terrible and would hurt your employers bottom line.
They want someone to do 2x the amount of work for 1/2 the price, never train, and always have work just get completed etc.
I predicted this in 2009 with employers who are stingy are going to get screwed over back by their employees in 2012 - 2016 when their workforce quits in mass. The money saved will be lost. These are all the reasons why employers do not like employees who leave, but yeah it is work at will for them to fire whenever they like etc.
Use IE. IE is tollerable at version 9 and is the most supported intranet browser which is only updated annually. Not sexy like Chrome, but you run a business and cant be bothered by constant upgrades.
You can put it in an image and have the imaged version check for updates on its own servers. Infact I worked for a school district who did this for 30,000 machines
Hell
There are some who are whining IE 6 is no longer supported after 10 years and refuse to upgrade. I guess its assumed the web hasnt changed at all on 10 years so why update?
You had noscript. IE 9 has an adblock to it too.
IE 9 has anti-malware cross domain protection with something called protection lists. Under IE add-ons there is a protection list that includes ad servers as well which will do the same as adblock if you look for it on Microsoft's website.
I have seen web developers not use DOCTYPES which make IE go into quirks IE 6 mode. Another is xhtml where the hack of including MS-XML to trick IE 7/8 to work with it (does not support natively) will make IE 9 go into IE 7 mode. So they do the old hacks then still whine how bad IE 9 is and how it is no different because the hacks make IE 9 function like older versions of IE.
Do not do these 2 things and it renders like Firefox and Chrome with just a few issues here and there. It really is standards compliant