Its a good thing that at least WIndows and other Microsoft products have great interopability with open standard and specs.
For a minute there I assumed MS intentionaly made it difficult to port windows apps to non windows operating systems. Those guys at OSS are such jerks by keeping everything closed......
In a more serious note I read a day or two ago in the New York Times that Bill Gates mentioned interopability will be the focus for the next wave of MS products?? I thought I was dreaming.
BIll Gates when on saying that businesses will not replace their existing systems and Windows should be able to work with legacy platforms more seamingly??
I guess after talking about reliablity, than scalability, security, and now interopibility that somehow people will believe it?
What do you expect? Have all the programmers check the assembly code for holes?
Sure a programmer could do things like use different string libraries (non ansi) assuming they are writing something new rather than maintaning an old code. But really there is only so much you can do.
In the workplace they want results as fast as possible for the cheapest cost. If that means using insecure widgets from vc++.net so be it.
Maxtor today creates the lowest quality drives in the industry. The walmart effect has really lowered quality as manufactors are on a race to the bottom.
My gf purchased one and she kocked the case over and the whole drive just died. She replaced it with an identical one and it dies as well 5 months later with massive data corruption.
Its a trendy that has gone bad and the only truly reliable form of storage is good old fashioned tape. Corporate customers will not by the cheapest storage they can find and prefer reliability.
Aix is not for consumers or pc hardware. Its a specialized OS.
My guess is IBM would prefer AIX for servers because they could soke in more revenue vs cheap os/2-intel hardware.
IBM probably would find a way of crippling OS/2 if it canabalized their mainframe and AIX sales somehow.
Keep in mind IBM loves Linux because a.) it hurts Microsoft b.) Puts a damper on proprietary win32 coding c.) They can cut costs by trashing AIX since Linux hernel hackers work for free. d.) Programers are familiar with it because they run it at home which makes it easy for porting.
IBM already sells its own version of Linux if you purchase their powerpc/power based blade servers. they are hoping to dump AIX on that platform and as Linux matures they will sell Linux for their rs6000 boxes.
OS/2 runs fine on 484sx computers with 4-8 megs of ram. Can NT ran on that?
Multimedia apps? Video's were always smooth on OS/2 and choppy on the same hardware with NT 3.51.
Reliability? NT 4 had graphics run on ring0 and a device driver could take down the whole system.
OS/2 had Rexx support and if you decompile the code and look at the assembly instructions, you will see optimizations which look almost hand written instead of through a compiler.
No PCGamer back in 97 or 98 had an alpha demo of the game and showed screenshots of duke nukem having a battle with aliens on a highway, jumping from one vehicle to the next.
My theory is that it got canned but marketing never wanted to kill it incase they decided to ever rewrite it for the pc.
The console market was bigger so Duke Nukem had a release for the PS.
I actually started the lame Duke Nukem posts as a joke, but oddly I had Mozilla mentioned as well. The netscape code finally after 2 years had to be deleted and rewritten.
After a slow start Mozilla is finally ready and moving fast.
Hopefully the same fate will happen with Hurd as soon as developers come and take it seriously. Its a selfulling prophesy in free software.
Hell I saw some episodes and it was the worst Telivsion I have seen in many years. No plot silly stories which showed obvious lack of ideas from the writters who could not think of anything to write.
Funny that the press release said it would make machines with cross bar as fast as transistors were to the vacuum tube. I was wondering this myself but its not a big deal and more of a stock price boaster than the next revolution.
All the amendment says is the government can't prosecute you under X circumstances.
It does not mean you constitutional rights at school or work. Freedom of speech means you can get fired at work for example.
But at my former highschool they had drug sniffing dogs check all the automobiles and school lockers. If you refused the search that gave them resonable doubt. Nice hu?
Again the courts ruled in favor of the school.
But can the government lock your son or daughter without trail? Absolutely. If he/she is defined as a terrorist than due processes no longer applies.
Mainly because paranoid conservative parents could sue the school.
Children do not have rights until they are adults and the supreme court has ruled over and over again in favor of the schools in any lawsuit over civil rights sadly.
Well tell me which opensource manufactor I should buy then?
Every one of htem is closed source except the wildcat which is out of my price range for a non engineer.
In the old days the manufactors had to be opened because programs like autocad and 3d studioMax could not run properly. Today Microsoft took over with their drives so they only need to be open with Microsoft and no one else since everyone runs Windows or will if they need your product.
If you want to use your 3d card then purchase Windows.
The infamous bug with nvidia was due to nvidias cards not being AGP 2.0 standards compliant in terms of watt usage. Via blamed Nvidia and Nvidia blamed VIA. Intel owned 95% of the market then and Nvidia only tested the geforce with Intel boards. People assumed VIA was just unstable compared to Intel as a result and some still believe it today.
Vendors like Dell and IBM stuck with Intel as a result.
Also there was a scam 4 years ago when the athlon boards including defective capacitators that would explode. Most cheaper motherboard makers prefered VIA/AMD solutions due to the cheaper price, also picked the bad capitators. Consumers assumed it was VIAs fault stuck with Intel. A few them made it into Intel boards too including IBM's desktop line but the press was not big to pick that up.
Finally in 2005 many business users are seeing through the BS of the early days and VIA is fine.
VIA is not that bad anymore and nvidia works fine with their boards now.
The story says top brands. Sure Coke, Pepsie, and McDonalds are the most known but how many of you like them the best?
I absolutely love Italian and European soda that is hard to find outside of manhattan because coke and pepsi-co have such a monopoly. McDonalds is horrible but convient and just everywhere.
Apple and Google both have very positive brand name recongition for supperior products.
But surely Microsoft would be more recongized without a good name just because of sheer mass and marketing muscle over technological one.
Still in an economic sense, neoconservatives and libertarains have similiar economic views but differ vastly from social and moral ones.
The other poster was dumb when he mentioned conservatives do not produce OS's.
Hello. Sun is a top republican donator and so is IBM. Solaris, AIX and OS2 was produced by these companies.
But really socialism refers to not giving hand outs to the poor and lazy, but rather government intervension in various economic and social policies.
It makes sense. Look what happened in 1929? In the crash, wall street had no governmently controlled interest rates or regulation. Investors bought stocks with 90% of the value in IOU loans so they could invest for practically nothing. They would then sell the stock quickly which would pay back the IOU loans and buy even more expensive stocks. Investors loved this and viewed it as good. When the market crashed they could not pay back their stocks and the whole financial institution itself collapsed. The investors ended up with nothing because they needed to sell all the stocks they had to pay back the loans.
My point is government regulation is needed and its not an evil thing anti capitalist thing. Many regulations help businesses out. The lie that government == bad was developed over the years by billion dollar think tanks designed to benefit the wealthy. Or consevative investors who want a return to the good old days where they could make even more money.
Can someone who works with MS in the enterprise comment on licensing agreements?
Rumors on slashdot claim that MS is raising the cost of MS Office if corporate buyers do not also buy or promise to switch from Unix to Windows.
Like, oh we would like to run Oracle on Linux but our licensing agreement with MS makes us use SQL-Server.
Is this true or just abunch of rumors? This is slashdot after all.
Last, sales of IT are UP! Look at the nasdaq? Businesses who did not upgrade since 1999 are doing some maintance on their systems. Windows and Unix should be included on this.
I am not in IT and have not been in several years but I am shocked to read this.
Gentoo 1.2 for me would break all the time. Sometimes I could not get KDE installed at for a week until someone fixes the broken port. Sometimes after I update everything kmail would crash or perl would no longer run.
Its about as stable as Windows98 in that it feels untested with no QA is done for a production environment. Maybe Gentoo has improved since I used it back in 2002. I dont know.
But there is a reason corporate users prefer Debian stable with the 2.4 kernel for their production boxes.
If I were an admin I would stay far away from Gentoo as possible and I am supprised your server is even running without constant crashes or bugs.
Linux stability has decreased in recent years with the exception of well tested Debian and Redhat.
I personally would feel hell of alot more comfortable with Solaris still at this point and would not trust my job to any FOSS with the exception of a BSD distro. But I am in no position to recommend that. I just would not want your job out of fear somethign would happen during an emerge. Yikes.
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All the shops I have seen deciding to dump Unix for NT have astronomical support costs increases.
This is due to bugs and security problems.
The TCO for a win32 solution is through the roof and MS can dictate to your company pricing and planned obscolences through EULA's.
Its a good thing that at least WIndows and other Microsoft products have great interopability with open standard and specs.
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For a minute there I assumed MS intentionaly made it difficult to port windows apps to non windows operating systems. Those guys at OSS are such jerks by keeping everything closed.
In a more serious note I read a day or two ago in the New York Times that Bill Gates mentioned interopability will be the focus for the next wave of MS products?? I thought I was dreaming.
BIll Gates when on saying that businesses will not replace their existing systems and Windows should be able to work with legacy platforms more seamingly??
I guess after talking about reliablity, than scalability, security, and now interopibility that somehow people will believe it?
Nothing is sticking.
Its not C/C++ code that is insecure.
Its the resulting assembly.
What do you expect? Have all the programmers check the assembly code for holes?
Sure a programmer could do things like use different string libraries (non ansi) assuming they are writing something new rather than maintaning an old code. But really there is only so much you can do.
In the workplace they want results as fast as possible for the cheapest cost. If that means using insecure widgets from vc++.net so be it.
Maxtor today creates the lowest quality drives in the industry. The walmart effect has really lowered quality as manufactors are on a race to the bottom.
My gf purchased one and she kocked the case over and the whole drive just died. She replaced it with an identical one and it dies as well 5 months later with massive data corruption.
Its a trendy that has gone bad and the only truly reliable form of storage is good old fashioned tape. Corporate customers will not by the cheapest storage they can find and prefer reliability.
Aix is not for consumers or pc hardware. Its a specialized OS.
My guess is IBM would prefer AIX for servers because they could soke in more revenue vs cheap os/2-intel hardware.
IBM probably would find a way of crippling OS/2 if it canabalized their mainframe and AIX sales somehow.
Keep in mind IBM loves Linux because
a.) it hurts Microsoft
b.) Puts a damper on proprietary win32 coding
c.) They can cut costs by trashing AIX since Linux hernel hackers work for free.
d.) Programers are familiar with it because they run it at home which makes it easy for porting.
IBM already sells its own version of Linux if you purchase their powerpc/power based blade servers. they are hoping to dump AIX on that platform and as Linux matures they will sell Linux for their rs6000 boxes.
What?
OS/2 runs fine on 484sx computers with 4-8 megs of ram. Can NT ran on that?
Multimedia apps? Video's were always smooth on OS/2 and choppy on the same hardware with NT 3.51.
Reliability? NT 4 had graphics run on ring0 and a device driver could take down the whole system.
OS/2 had Rexx support and if you decompile the code and look at the assembly instructions, you will see optimizations which look almost hand written instead of through a compiler.
NT is a dog in comparison.
No PCGamer back in 97 or 98 had an alpha demo of the game and showed screenshots of duke nukem having a battle with aliens on a highway, jumping from one vehicle to the next.
My theory is that it got canned but marketing never wanted to kill it incase they decided to ever rewrite it for the pc.
The console market was bigger so Duke Nukem had a release for the PS.
Ya
My guess is Jimmy Buffet will be the Hurd spokesperson demonstrating DNF on the OS.
I actually started the lame Duke Nukem posts as a joke, but oddly I had Mozilla mentioned as well. The netscape code finally after 2 years had to be deleted and rewritten.
After a slow start Mozilla is finally ready and moving fast.
Hopefully the same fate will happen with Hurd as soon as developers come and take it seriously. Its a selfulling prophesy in free software.
DNF? Well its proprietary so who knows
Fooled?
It is CRAP!
Hell I saw some episodes and it was the worst Telivsion I have seen in many years. No plot silly stories which showed obvious lack of ideas from the writters who could not think of anything to write.
Funny that the press release said it would make machines with cross bar as fast as transistors were to the vacuum tube. I was wondering this myself but its not a big deal and more of a stock price boaster than the next revolution.
All the amendment says is the government can't prosecute you under X circumstances.
It does not mean you constitutional rights at school or work. Freedom of speech means you can get fired at work for example.
But at my former highschool they had drug sniffing dogs check all the automobiles and school lockers. If you refused the search that gave them resonable doubt. Nice hu?
Again the courts ruled in favor of the school.
But can the government lock your son or daughter without trail? Absolutely. If he/she is defined as a terrorist than due processes no longer applies.
I agree with the principal.
Mainly because paranoid conservative parents could sue the school.
Children do not have rights until they are adults and the supreme court has ruled over and over again in favor of the schools in any lawsuit over civil rights sadly.
Well tell me which opensource manufactor I should buy then?
Every one of htem is closed source except the wildcat which is out of my price range for a non engineer.
In the old days the manufactors had to be opened because programs like autocad and 3d studioMax could not run properly. Today Microsoft took over with their drives so they only need to be open with Microsoft and no one else since everyone runs Windows or will if they need your product.
If you want to use your 3d card then purchase Windows.
The infamous bug with nvidia was due to nvidias cards not being AGP 2.0 standards compliant in terms of watt usage. Via blamed Nvidia and Nvidia blamed VIA. Intel owned 95% of the market then and Nvidia only tested the geforce with Intel boards. People assumed VIA was just unstable compared to Intel as a result and some still believe it today.
Vendors like Dell and IBM stuck with Intel as a result.
Also there was a scam 4 years ago when the athlon boards including defective capacitators that would explode. Most cheaper motherboard makers prefered VIA/AMD solutions due to the cheaper price, also picked the bad capitators. Consumers assumed it was VIAs fault stuck with Intel. A few them made it into Intel boards too including IBM's desktop line but the press was not big to pick that up.
Finally in 2005 many business users are seeing through the BS of the early days and VIA is fine.
VIA is not that bad anymore and nvidia works fine with their boards now.
Maybe they mean positive reconigition?
The story says top brands. Sure Coke, Pepsie, and McDonalds are the most known but how many of you like them the best?
I absolutely love Italian and European soda that is hard to find outside of manhattan because coke and pepsi-co have such a monopoly. McDonalds is horrible but convient and just everywhere.
Apple and Google both have very positive brand name recongition for supperior products.
But surely Microsoft would be more recongized without a good name just because of sheer mass and marketing muscle over technological one.
But oddly this has changed since jobs came back.
Amazing what an ego centric and artistic CEO can do to a company.
Apple would have been ranked really low back in the late 90's.
Still in an economic sense, neoconservatives and libertarains have similiar economic views but differ vastly from social and moral ones.
The other poster was dumb when he mentioned conservatives do not produce OS's.
Hello. Sun is a top republican donator and so is IBM. Solaris, AIX and OS2 was produced by these companies.
But really socialism refers to not giving hand outs to the poor and lazy, but rather government intervension in various economic and social policies.
It makes sense. Look what happened in 1929? In the crash, wall street had no governmently controlled interest rates or regulation. Investors bought stocks with 90% of the value in IOU loans so they could invest for practically nothing. They would then sell the stock quickly which would pay back the IOU loans and buy even more expensive stocks. Investors loved this and viewed it as good. When the market crashed they could not pay back their stocks and the whole financial institution itself collapsed. The investors ended up with nothing because they needed to sell all the stocks they had to pay back the loans.
My point is government regulation is needed and its not an evil thing anti capitalist thing. Many regulations help businesses out. The lie that government == bad was developed over the years by billion dollar think tanks designed to benefit the wealthy. Or consevative investors who want a return to the good old days where they could make even more money.
True is that growth rates slow down but bigger companies are safer investments.
Mainly because they enter new markets when growth is needed. THe size causes them to take in alot of money in return.
MS has been outsourcing to India recently which is also why they are more profitable.
Yes but they work much better than openoffice.
Many businesses use VBA anyway which can not run on anything but ms.
Really?
How do you send word docs that are not improrerly formated unser MS Word with customers?
How do you migrated MS-Exchange/Outlook apps with custom CRM and calander apps?
How do you migrate VB sql-server apps?
Catch my drift?
You use MS because you have to in order to survive and you do whatever the hell they tell you to do.
Thats why there is horizontal integration.
Companies enter a new market after one is saturated to keep growing and growing forever (theoritically)
McDonalds for example has saturated its core market but owns a smoothie company which they are now using to generate more revenue.
After that they will probably buy Chili's or something else to grow in that market as well.
Can someone who works with MS in the enterprise comment on licensing agreements?
Rumors on slashdot claim that MS is raising the cost of MS Office if corporate buyers do not also buy or promise to switch from Unix to Windows.
Like, oh we would like to run Oracle on Linux but our licensing agreement with MS makes us use SQL-Server.
Is this true or just abunch of rumors? This is slashdot after all.
Last, sales of IT are UP! Look at the nasdaq? Businesses who did not upgrade since 1999 are doing some maintance on their systems. Windows and Unix should be included on this.
I am not in IT and have not been in several years but I am shocked to read this.
Gentoo 1.2 for me would break all the time. Sometimes I could not get KDE installed at for a week until someone fixes the broken port. Sometimes after I update everything kmail would crash or perl would no longer run.
Its about as stable as Windows98 in that it feels untested with no QA is done for a production environment. Maybe Gentoo has improved since I used it back in 2002. I dont know.
But there is a reason corporate users prefer Debian stable with the 2.4 kernel for their production boxes.
If I were an admin I would stay far away from Gentoo as possible and I am supprised your server is even running without constant crashes or bugs.
Linux stability has decreased in recent years with the exception of well tested Debian and Redhat.
I personally would feel hell of alot more comfortable with Solaris still at this point and would not trust my job to any FOSS with the exception of a BSD distro. But I am in no position to recommend that. I just would not want your job out of fear somethign would happen during an emerge. Yikes.
We would all be stuck using Mozilla right now if Firefox never forked.
Mozilla was just too slow and memory intensive to become popular. Firefox changed that for the non techie users.