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HP's Crossbar Latch... Next-Gen Transistor?
moojin writes "CNN.com reports that "in a paper published in Tuesday's Journal of Applied Physics, HP said three members of its Quantum Science Research group propose and demonstrate a "crossbar latch," which provides the signal restoration and inversion required for general computing without the need for transistors.""
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Additionally, the crossbar latch can be locked across the steering wheel to prevent car theft.
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Some funding for the experiment came from the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Yeah. I'm betting that "some" of the tech used came from the same source as well. I mean, if it's been proven [tt] that transistors couldn't have been invented the all of a sudden way they were in 1947 (or even using today's technology), then how are they expecting us to believe that this new tech isn't reverse-engineered UFO tech? We're currently still miles away from acheiving anything in quantum computing, and now we're suddenly expected to believe that HP has this kind of working tech? Give me a break.
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Does mean that I can finally replace the vacuum tubes in my computer? I am hoping for something that can fit in my bedroom.
if not then im not interested.
Take that, all you people who said that this year would be the year the moore's law beats us!
..the Original statement by HP and even more important HP's paper in the Journal of Applied Physics.
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I will be the first to admit that eventually there will be some limit to how small we can make a transistor (or transistor replacement) it seems that we still have a ways to go. I remember recently a spate of doomsayers going on about how circuits couldn't get much smaller than they are now, and how this would be the end of easy processor speedups. Well I guess they were wrong again. I don't think that will stop them from telling us that circuits can't be built smaller than this however.
Philosophy.
I work for a team in research at HP. This latch has potential, but it hasn't been fully tested. The PR dept just simply went off and decided to get everyone excited.
Just pray it ends up passing all testing and becoming everything they expect. Otherwise we might end up with an Intel-like pentium division problem on our hands...
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How long before this goes the way of Alpha or HPUX or Bluestone or PA-Risc. Nice to see HP's still doing cool stuff; but I can already see Carly thinking "Hey, Dell doesn't have that kind of cost center, let's cut it".
The information in the article is sparse. Does anyone have more?
And my broadband access will be century or years away. Maybe by 2010 I'll finally get broadband at 256Kbps for $60 a month or something.
What's the point with ever faster PC when the network access is still slow
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Next thing you are going to tell me is that this will run Duke Nukem Forever.
Sigs? We don't need no stinking sigs!
If it works, would actual cpu-producing factories be able to implement it, or would it require a new process and new fabs to produce?
And they claim impressive (potential) performance gains... do the average computer user really need more than 4 Ghz? Or will the market for this new technology be supercomputer-class computers only?
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I got this in my computer world email subscrib, a bit more info then then CNN article. Computer World
Hold up, wait a minute, let me put some pimpin in it
See full text of article here
Seriously, I thought according to /. that only "Apple" (with only a drop of help from IBM) could make cool technology.
If this pans out to be viable, it will be interesting to see if it is promoted as a scientific (i.e. open) discovery, or a patentable (i.e. closed) invention.
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Is this a mechanical gate or electrical?
You're wasting processing power by posting here on Slashdot!
Okay, I'm/was a SETI user also. However, I still think that there is plenty of evidence to support that we have yet to find intelligent life on this planet, or another.
Didn't Chevy invent those back in the 50s? What is this crossbar latch and what does it have to do with computery?
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Carly- Quickly, lets leverage this PR and sell the division.
It'll be region coded. All the real power and functionality you want will be available in another region.
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HP develops product with strange name and amazing powers!
People, check out their site. They do this kind of stuff all the time. It's research - not an actual product. Why aren't there stories like this every time they have a press release?
Check out this announcement that declares an extension of Moore's law for 50 years!
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So I can finally play Doom 3 at >10fps :)
Seriously though, forget protein folding and chess and the DNA computing crap, think about the 'quantum' enabled games we could get !! And ofcourse 9 new incompatible quantum 3d apis from MS, QuantGL and godKnowsWho.
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I read the Press Release and this "has the potential to"... My guess is that HP are suffering at the moment (AIX machines are cheaper and more powerful than HP-UX ones, guess which we are buying less of) and this Press Release was published as a way of boosting the stock price.
Given that HP are dropping PA-Risc in favour of Itanium and that Intel appear to be dropping Itanium, HP seem to be dropping out of the large Unix market. I am sure that the PC Server market is good to them but surely diversification is the better way to stay competitive? Before anyone suggests it, there are some things that you just can't do as efficiently on lots of little servers that you can do on one larger server. For example distributed databases have locking issues that monolithic ones don't, and some of our legacy applications are still single threaded in parts.
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Silicon-based "crossbar latches" have been around since the 1980's, but not on such a nano-scale that would make them easily designable into a microprocessor core. There were much more on the larger size scale of discreet devices such as triacs and silicon controlled rectifiers (SCRs).
As near as I can tell, what they've done here is implement levels of titanium and platinum nano-wires which pass each at right angle. However, to prevent leakage, at the crossover points they are held apart by Rotaxan molecules.
Rotaxan molecules are organic, and have this nifty little molecular ring which enables them to be conductive or not based on its position. Thus, you get your binary switch. This little animal is the "crossbar latch," apparently. And it can be done in something like 40 nanometers, making it scads smaller than current conductive strips.
Unfortunately, I'm having a great deal of trouble tracking down technical details. HP wants to keep its secrets, obviously, but Berkely and Stanford should be a little more forthcoming, think I. Anyone have links to more technical information? It would be greatly appreciated...
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From nanoinvestornews:
A molecular crossbar latch is provided, comprising two control wires and a signal wire that crosses the two control wires at a non-zero angle to thereby form a junction with each control wire. Each junction forms a switch and the junction has a functional dimension in nanometers. The signal wire selectively has at least two different voltage states, ranging from a 0 state to a 1 state, wherein there is an asymmetry with respect to the direction of current flow from the signal wire through one junction compared to another junction such that current flowing through one junction into (out of) the signal wire can open (close) while current flowing through the other junction out of (into) the signal wire can close (open) the switch, and wherein there is a voltage threshold for switching between an open switch and a closed switch. Further, methods are provided for latching logic values onto nanowires in a logic array, for inverting a logic value, and for restoring a voltage value of a signal in a nano-scale wire."
From USTPO
"A novel switching device is provided with an active region arranged between first and second electrodes and including a molecular system and ionic complexes distributed in the system. A control electrode is provided for controlling an electric field applied to the active region, which switches between a high-impedance state and a low-impedance state when the electrical field having a predetermined polarity and intensity is applied for a predetermined time."
and for a second there, i thought you said no more michael moore...darn it!
According to the article switch time is approximately a tenth of a second, or 10Hz.
Don't get me wrong, this is great and all, (see a better article at EETimes) but to implement microprocessor-complexity devices with single nanometer technology, we need single nanometer scale wires and the technology with which to 'draw' them onto silicon.
We already have enough trouble at 90nm with wiring, and it's only getting worse at 65nm.
This looks like a great leap in device technology, but we need similar advances in lithography to really use it.
"Latching on the Wire and Pipelining in Nanoscale Designs"
http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/nsc3/papers/3-2.pdf
At least it mentions both the "cross bar" and HP dealing with NASICs
Yeah -- but watch those papers fly out at the speed of light!!
Does anyone have a published white paper from HP anywhere to read some technical writing about this? I'm interested, but news sites just don't tell me what I want to know.
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- Mean operations til failure: ~100
- Switching speed: ~100/sec
So they just need to improve its reliability by a factor of 10^16 or so, the switching speed only by a factor of 10^7 or so.Does this mean that in a few years you will be able to charge $2000 for a transistor audio amplifier to a dorky audiophile who claims that "crossbar amps does not sound as good as old technology" ?
I thought it was interesting that this device was patented (U.S. Patent 6,586,965) in 2003 on an application filed in 2001, so that the core technology isnt really new as the article implies. The patent has a better discussion of the technology actually used than the cited articles.
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Here is a link to the patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parse
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I will be the first to admit that eventually there will be some limit to how small we can make a transistor (or transistor replacement) it seems that we still have a ways to go.
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... which we're also nowhere near.
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The theoretical limits of information and computational density (based on quantum density limitations and reletavistic constraints on signalling, i.e. speed-of-light limits) are Bremermann's Limit and the Bekenstein Bounds, and we're one hell of a long way away from that. Practical limitations may be an order of magnitude or two less
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Maybe I'm being troll like, but everytime somebody "announces" some dramatic breakthrough lately (medical, computing, so on...) We are always at least 10 years from actual stuff I might be able to buy.
It's unfair to tease me and then never come out with the stuff!
On the other hand, imagine inlaid crossbar latches on a printing matrix. Higher accuracy... Imagine 4 billion DPI - full color?
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I guess the trolls can all go home now!
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FWIW, the entire Inca civilization rose, thrived and fell - without the wheel.
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HP probably won't release mac drivers for this...
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[...] how are they expecting us to believe that this new tech isn't reverse-engineered UFO tech?
Obviously (from the names) we're talking about the "transtator" of Star Trek fame.
Bones (or Kirk, or some other crewperson or person from another of the fleet) must have lost another communicator on one of the trips back in time to Earth, as he did on that Mob-run planet in _A Piece of the Action_.
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"Intel appear to be dropping Itanium"
That is not true, if you have some insight.
Would the average computer user like to transcode video in less than realtime, or turn their home movies into DVDs without launching a compression run before they go to bed, or emerge -uDp world in a reasonable amount of time? Yeah, I can think of a quite a few uses for faster processors off the top of my head.
The great part is that once we actually have them, some smartass from Argentina will come out with a hot new technology that we'll all want but that won't run very well on our puny 4GHz systems. Then, some pundit on Slashdot will say that no one really needs a 10GHz quad-core processor, and someone else will prove that KDE sucks by pointing out that Mandlebrot translucency vectors can't be computed in realtime on their 3.6GHz Opteron and that power users should check out XFCE (with built-in Composite support).
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
is not necessarily the invention, but the fact that HP has any research going on at all. I thought that they were still too busy dumping past inventions.
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They'll keep working through an EMP that would fry semiconductor electronics. You can reduce the size and MTBF of your glass envelope system by large scale integration of circuitry on the anode. Fewer glass envelopes means fewer failures. Ideally, you could get the whole system in one envelope. Then just keep some spares to replace as needed.
Given that HP are dropping PA-Risc in favour of Itanium and that Intel appear to be dropping Itanium
Where in the world did you get that Intel was dropping the Itanium?
And yeah, they may be dropping UNIX (HPUX) proper, but check out their linux support.
PA-Risc/HPUX boxes had their place in time for things like CAD workstations and things. But a regular PC with a good graphics card is just as good if not better today. A company down the hall is switching from dual PA-Risc boxes to regular dual PCs and they could afford to rebuy new equipment every year to 18months with the equivalent money that they were spending on maintenance contracts alone.
I spoke with some reps from HP last week and there was no indication whatsoever that Itanium support was going away, nor Linux support.
This is all nice and all, but they only gave us a pointer to an article in money.cnn.com. Does anybody subscribe to the Journal of Applied Physics and has seen that article? How does it work, what kind of performance can we expect, etc?
A Google search turned up this paper on nanoscale circuits that appears to be related. It mentions HP's crossbar latch patent in particular. Interesting stuff.
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She is going to pretty steamed when she finds out there are a few people left not devoted to figuring out ways to get customers to buy more ink.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
"Crossbar Latch" sounds so anachronistic! How about something cool and futuristic sounding like psychofraculator or something?
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
To say nothing of Longhorn...
"...this thing is not a transistor... hence, end of moore's law."
If you look at the orignial paper, Moore is talking about "components," not specifically "transistors." There's no semantic reason why this couldn't continue to apply to the new technology.
I am a little baffled by this announcement. I did not see anything about quantum computing, just smaller structures. I saw nothing about how this technology does inversion and signal restoration. Which allows multiple stages of logic. As far as speed and reliability, I wonder how it compares to solid state silicon extrapolated to these dimensions.
you could simultaneously simulate a giant gorilla throwing poop at a brick wall, a stucco wall, a steel wall, and a glass wall, although you would have to stipulate the condition which would select the simulation results you actually get - such as which wall yields the largest splatter. That would obviously be the last calculation we would ever need.
(A lot of people don't realize that only one of the 2^n calculations is returned, but one can conditionalize which calculation is returned, so that ultimately only the "useful" calculation is returned. All of the other calculations are sent to our unlucky quantum brothers in other universes. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the cosmic backround radiation wasn't found to actually be such a residue from our lucky quantum brothers who have already developed quantum computing!)
((Yes, I'm just kidding.))
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But Windows XP will still run like crap!
Intel has a good overview on what leakage is all about. Leakage has nothing to do with jumping wire channels, although the electric fields generated between one wire and another in small process geometries cause signal integrity problems such as noise and delay.
Quantum computing is overhyped in its computing potential. It has been shown that quantum computers do not gain a computational advantage in these problems without an exponetial number of gates.
Interesting as well is that the factoring problem that made quantum computing famous has never actually been proven to be hard on a classical computer. This is to say, it is perfectly possible that factoring can be done on a regular computer just as fast as a quantum computer.
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But, he added: "This could someday replace transistors in computers, just as transistors replaced vacuum tubes and vacuum tubes replaced electromagnetic relays before them." Top of page
Someday, probably by the time their patents run out. Btw, whats the deal with saying that "HP" did it, rather then the researches who actualy worked on the thing. I'm sure there were plenty, but I'd try to at least get their names in (if I ran a big company).
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I'm sure IBM wouldn't mind selling PowerPC to HP if they are short of a decent engine family ..
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Notice I said "appear"... Itanium as a workstation processor has been dropped by HP (Intel claimed it was never meant to be a workstation processor if I remember correctly) and I have heard rumours (from Intel Engineers no less) that they are cutting back significantly on Itanium work (leaving just enough resources to fulfill their contract with HP)... I don't know if this is truly the case but that was why I said "appear"...
HP still have HP-UX on both PA-RISC and Itanium but the price/performance just does not compare with AIX on Power5.
You seem to have assumed that I was talkiing Dual processor workstations, I am thinking of the four to sixteen processor servers that we use a lot of.
Dual PCs (Running Linux or whatever) just aren't designed to be capable of the same levels of performance and reliability that the larger Unix servers are. The price for a fully redundant dual PC (server class hardware) is not much lower than that for an equivalent, non-Intel server.
Yes, maintenance contracts are expensive, but that's part of the package and you have to expect that. Older machines cost more for maintenance too, so upgrading to a newer machine can save you significant amounts of money.
HP never seem to give any indication that support is going to be dropped. But did you ever hear them talk about how they were going to incorporate Best Of Breed from Tru-64 and HP-UX into the newer versions of HP-UX? Have you heard them gradually backpedalling on those claims?
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-- Under/Overrated is meta-moderation, and therefore is Redundant.
Sorry, I disagree...
Opteron is frequently described as being a better architecture than Itanium.
Itanium sales are improving but still rather lacklustre.
Intel have repositioned the Itanium in the market place. It's now a "high end only chip" whereas before it was supposed to be more general.
Intel have added a 64-bit X86 variant, if Itanium was all that was promised why would they have needed to?
Microsoft and Sun have both dropped proposed Itanium OS versions.
HP seem to be the only people still touting Itanium heavily. Actually, I found mention of a start-up, founded by the guy who originally designed the Itanium, planning to write software for it... But other than them...
Neither of us know for sure, but I see no reason for Intel to continue Itanium beyond contractual obligations with HP.
IBM Power5 appears to me to be a signifcantly better designed architecture than Itanium.
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-- Under/Overrated is meta-moderation, and therefore is Redundant.
Would the average computer user like to transcode video in less than realtime, or turn their home movies into DVDs without launching a compression run before they go to bed, or emerge -uDp world in a reasonable amount of time? Yeah, I can think of a quite a few uses for faster processors off the top of my head.
Sometimes I wonder how much of this "need" for faster CPUs could be eliminated by using more dedicated hardware, such as video encoders. For instance, if you're building a MythTV box, and you have three video capture cards, you probably can't find a processor capable of encoding all three outputs into MPEG2 (let alone MPEG4) in realtime. Maybe a dual Opteron could do it. However, if you pay a little more and get video capture cards with hardware MPEG2 encoders on board, such as the Hauppauge PVR-250, you could stick all three of those cards in a 1 GHz Celeron system and it should work fine, since all the system has to do is transfer all the data to disk using DMA, and the CPU is barely used at all. These MPEG2 encoder chips also don't require nearly the power that Opterons running at full-tilt require.
It is more difficult and more expensive to make dedicated hardware instead of just writing software, but for operations which many people have need of (MP3 decoding, MPEG2 encoding/decoding, etc.), it's probably worth it. So I wonder if there aren't other tasks that could be pushed off onto specialized hardware instead of consuming CPU cycles.
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How about "Heisenberg and the Quantums".
Now all we need is some singer called Heisenberg. *grabs white pages*
Aa...
So assuming the crossbar latch makes its way into general purpose CPU in 10-20 years, what're the odds we'll still be running x86-64(128(256?)?) on it?
Will this likely just end up as a 1 to 1 replacement for transistor designs (just denser) or would it potentially allow for different/"better" instruction sets? Hey, maybe they can make a chip fast enough that they could emulate x86 for all the legacy stuff.
Or will this just lead the way to miniturization so I can get all the current processing power of my computer into something the size of an iPod?
Here is the USPTO listing for this thing. HP (and a few other groups) have been working on this kind of stuff for a long time.
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This sounds awesome! Where can I download this "Crossbar latch" for Windows?
The amount of computing that can be called "brute force" varies enourmosly between different problems.
For instance take the problem that Gauss is presumed to have solved in elementary school: add all numbers from 1 to 100. Gauss realized that the sequence can be broken into 50 pairs, 1 and 100, 2 and 99, etc, every which one adds to 101, so the answer is 101*50=5050. That's one example where we know one simple logical solution that takes much less computing effort than the more obvious addition of every number in the series.
OTOH, there are many other problems for which the only logical solution known requires a lot of computation. One well-known example is the four-color map theorem. Do you really believe that this theorem has been proved with "just" brute force, without the use of "science"?
I'm not an expert in the field, so I might be talking bullshit here, but as I understand it, there are problems in group theory where one can demonstrate formally that the only solution requires an amount of computation that's suspiciously close to "brute" force. The four-color map problem I mentioned required 1200 hours of computation when it was first solved in 1975.
Haven't you ever seen two dogs meeting in the street? The first thing they do is to smell each other's ass. That's because a dog's ass has an absolutely wonderful smell! It must be true, how could a hundred million dogs be wrong?
let the patents begin! hp will try to 0wn the microprocessor industry now... i hope we don't all get stuck with crappy off-the-shelf ghetto hp machines... i really do...
Though if you're a neutron, it's free of charge.
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Crossbar latches just don't have the natural warmth of sound that transistors do.
My brother, who is a PhD student at Caltech, told me about this article and indicated that his group has been partnering with HP for quite some time on this project. He personally is working with these latches on a daily basis and the group is currently investigating ways to produce them reliably on a mass scale. However, apparently, HP is claiming most of the glory in the press releases.
What are these export $$$ you talk of?
Primary Industries of all types... usualy happen in rural areas. I'm not sure what primary exports are worth to the US... probably a lot less than other exports, however, if you divide the exports by the population base, I think you'll find that the rural areas contribute a lot to the wealth of the cities.
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Forget those 32 bit and 64 bit CPUs...
See... one of the alien guys liked to collect old radios and technological antiques from his own cultures golden age and stuff. So first off we reverse engineered an old walkie-talkie and got the transistor. Then there was the microwave oven (it was strapped to the cubicle by period-accurate velcro, but of course that was generic hook-and-loop tape) and got the led display and microwave popcorn and the automatic lazy-susan from that. Then we moved on to the cute little sterio and got the CD, DVD and CSS/DRM (because the aliens would have never made it to the stars without Falmatrazze Spears music kept properly safe).
Now that they finally figured out how to get the elevator to work on the ship, we've gotten down to engineering and got a good solid tricorder opened and stole VLSI chip manufacture.
With the tricorder mostly reassembled we got the cover off the coffie machine and (and we all know how much aliens like their caffiene) and that super advanced machine is where we are getting all this hot cross-bar stuff.
Once we get some good alien caffiene in our systems (if we can find a frrozbat quarter to put in the machine) we will be wired up enough to give the shop manual a good looking over (it's worse than any VCR manual _ever_ conceived of by man) and we'll finally learn how to get the quantum computer (which was actually stolen form the elevator controls) to return an answer other than "basement".
See, you just have to know how to walk the tech tree. Once we have finished the earth-orbit section, we will send advanced teams to mars where they will find another alien ship, and they should have the transistor [the _martian_ transistor] for themselves to use in that round as soon as they can get 100 units of Vespene...
[And remember: watch out for the plutocrat-rush and the humanists will always send a hacked indistructable peon over into your base to try to get you all involved in a debate about abortion...]
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You mean computer games like, uhm, let's build a real-time simulation of a solar system complete with an inhabitable planet and people and ...
generating the personalities of 60 billion people would be something of a computation problem. It doesn't need to do it fast, six thousand years will do, plus or minus a few hundred million. Simulated time, of course.
Or, here's an even better game -- tune your big bang.
It'll be region coded. All the real power and functionality you want will be available in another region.
Worse yet, there'll be no way to tell both how fast your system is running and what region you're in, at the same time.
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the alien _is_ "god".
Does anyone know any details about this new design? Is it similar to the FinFet design ( http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/wonews/mar03/ multigate.html ) or is it something totally new that has an interesting design? Does anyone have a picture of this crossy latchey thingy? how easily can it be intergrated into common present industry models?
I want answers, not more questions...
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Give her enough time and she'll outsource the R&D group just like she did the Technical Support staff. HP is not the same company it was 10 years ago. All they have left is the name. I will never buy another HP product for as long as I live. The last one I had broke 3 days after the warranty expired and I could not get it working again even after replacing the failed component (drive) with an approved replacement. HP's system restore disks are designed to prevent their use on anything but exactly the hardware configuration that left the factory. The result is an inability to use the operating system which was paid for with the system.
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Make up your mind. Either he's logic or isn't consistent.
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They are in fact not smelling their arses but their genitals which indeed have an absolutely wonderful smell for dogs just like human genitals have an equally wonderful smell for humans. (Or so I've read.) The anus is being smelled as a side effect and its smell doesn't differ between both sexes so it is not very helpful as a guide to copulation. (Dogs don't usually make anal sex.)
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I'm not sure you could really say that opteron is a better architecture than itanium, but what you can certainly say is that the computing landscape is much more ready for AMD64. Itanium 2 is clearly a very nice bit of technology, it's just not what people wanted or needed, and it suffers from the lack of software support.
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I don't give a damn who this person is... if they have something valuable to say, they have a right to say it, and ad hominem attacks, regardless of their veracity, do NOT qualify as informative!
"Except that the inventor's get no benefit from this patent, it being the property of HP."
Oh how unfair. Seeing as how the inventors were the ones that bought those expensive science labs, and all the equipment to fill them. Payed all the salaries of both themselves, and all the support people.
"The fiction of the corporation as a legal person pretty well robs the patent system of it's utility
as an incentive to individual inventors."
There's nothing stopping the inventors from setting up their own labs.
The sticking points for the technology which have to be worked out are the lifetime of the devices, and their switching speed. Currently, the devices only work for 100s of computing cycles, and switching speed is many thousands of times slower than silicon technology, comments Professor Moriarty.
Quotyed from a somewhat better news source. CNN sucks, dump it if you want to keep your neurons.
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