Actually in India they are taught network subnetting, node.js, mcse Windows troubleshooting skills, and not just mathematics and theory with stale old languages that is American and European CS.
So no wonder corporations LOVE what they see for entry level employees. It is not just price you know why business loved India contrary to comments here.
The argument is as old as Slashdot itself. Theory important YES! But is that what is needed in the 21st century for EVERY use case? Don't give me the bs that is what ITT is as HR thinks CS == subnetting and help desk skills. Indians have them. Americans do not unless they are experienced which is expensive.
CS is obsolete and needs a medium. English teachers yes would not be qualified but part of the problem is CS itself
Windows 10 enterprise doesn't have spyware. Only the home and professional versions do so the point is mute. Great way too to enforce companies buy an expensive corporate blanket and not save with the pro version
Thank God someone else who isn't brainwashed thinks this movie isn't God. My coworkers went as far as to call anyone who disagrees it isn't the best ever as idiots
I dont know what I saw? It may have familiar props and actors in it. But it wasnt star wars.
It is amazing what a big marketing budget can do to brainwash consumers. Light side or dark side doggie biscuits even. But phantom menace was God too when it first came out and no one would dare say anything bad due to death threats. Even Slashdot talked about how cool that prequrl is.
It didn't become OK to say it sucked until later.
The fact even Finn could defeat a dark Lord of the sith shows how much of a joke it is.
If it wasn't Star wars no one would see it. It's all branding
Yo yo hipster web developers. The new rockstar language is Erlang reborn aka Outlaw Techno Psycobitch which you can write hipster low 16 color flat modern impress your cat applications and websites!!
Perl and Ruby on rails is sooo last decade man for crusty developers
Dude I was told on Slashdot to change my major from computer information systems to business as by 2015 no one would program anymore. WORST mistake EVER! If grads with 0 years experience can pull 70k while managers with 10 years pull 55k I think that advise is full of it if you don't mind me saying so
Very difficult. For the 1st embarrassing time of my career I got demoted back. I kept pointing to problems and solutions which is what us non professional managerial types do. I made very powerful enemy's who wanted to be told what to hear and stressed myself crazy. It's not for everyone
I can find an Indian willing to do your job for 60k. 220k is too much money for a non executive position and a welder who is skilled can work in the oil fields for 100k
Actually the surface is Microsoft's 2nd biggest revenue now. But the intention is not to be evil. It is to protect their image and customers as security conscious. For those developing websites the day couldn't come quick enough.
Html 5 is more secure too and gives flexibility to website makers.
Jeez folks nothing wrong with change. It is not an evil conspiracy for increased security
Well when baduu and facebook no longer load and give a message to upgrade people will do so or call someone who knows something.
I mean nothing lasts forever. Do you use 2002 era phones still too? The internet is dangerous. IE 8 uses ram when you have lots of tabs too. The users there are used to the bloat and Firefox/Chrome while being more cpu intensive render javascript much much faster JIT.
This is a nudge and my guess is any pc with 128 megs of ram would be dead with bad caps dying on the board or PSU. Many systems in China that run are newer hardware downgraded to XP to cut costs since everyone pirates over there and XP is easy to do so compared to 7.
Things change and there are chinese versions of Linux in Mandrin for these users sponsored by the government. Some even have an LUNA like UI too
I noticed this a few months ago when I built a system and had it scanned for compliance and was getting hit with a several year old hole in Java. I was confused because I knew I upgraded Java on the system. Then I realized that the old version was still there. Truth be said, if I build a machine and I don't absolutely need Java on it, it doesn't get loaded. Same goes for Flash.
Could be worse. One former client of mine had an app which used security holes to function so it could do OLE with Excel 2003 and was stuck at java 1.4.2 as late as 2012. No JOKE! Worse this insecure applet was for financial processing... face palm.
Since calling apps and inserting data every is insecure it won't function in later versions and during this customers Windows 7 deployment it became a problem. I think we found a hack where we crippled all security for all financial analysts to get it work??!
At least on the web end and be used for servlets. It was very awesome and secure during the 1990s and HOT. Sun ruined it and Oracle left it to rot more. It is a classic example of brilliant engineers being ruined and restrained by management.
I'd like to point out that Firefox and Chrome still support all the way back to Windows XP (though Chrome support is ending April 2016). It is very easy to get a hold of the latest and most secure browsers available. If people are not willing to upgrade their browsers after the cutoff, well I doubt they will upgrade their operating system (because upgrading a browser is trivial, at least in comparison to upgrading an OS). This is not what will force people to upgrade. Maybe other things, but not this. Note: This was written more to answer the Microsoft side of the problem. Why would Google be pushing upgrades? (Genuine question)
If the OS is not secure anyway (XP was not designed with security in mind besides a password from the AOL/MSN era) and has not been patched in over a year and half defeats the purpose.
It should frankly be illegal to do any customer credit card processing on such systems.
If you are very poor Asian try putting Linux. The hardware will soon die anyway if you can't afford Windows 10 which will run on hardware from 2009 and later since it is based on the Windows 7.xx driver model.
Since when has Slashdot become a Luddite websites for those that fear change?
XP is 15 years old! Things move on. We are tired of turning down 2008 era html 5 and leaving our phones with a better browser experience because of XP IE 6/8 compatibility from a different era. If the hardware is from 2008 or earlier you can install Linux for free?
Do you not change your oil and timing belts either
Good grief 15 years is a long time in technology. A very very long time. This platform has required workaround upon work around for over 10 years now.
The only reason die hards say it is not obsolete and great do not see what crippling and sacrifices are made just to bring a web page to render. Meanwhile the rest of us have inferior sites and products thanks to these cheap skates.
Time to move on. Maybe these poor Chinese will install Linux if they have very very old hardware? Anything from 2008 and newer can run a more secure and modern system
VIsta has IE 9. It was the 1st browser with HTML 5 support outside of Chrome. Still limited with many things like WebGL and CSS 3.1 compared to Edge/IE 11, but it does support mpeg4 and HTML 5 canvas for videos in IE 9. Nothing much else
As in a million grandmas and diehards still running XP thinking E stands for Internet noticed in terror their facebooks stopped playing videos and were silenced.
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Actually in India they are taught network subnetting, node.js, mcse Windows troubleshooting skills, and not just mathematics and theory with stale old languages that is American and European CS.
So no wonder corporations LOVE what they see for entry level employees. It is not just price you know why business loved India contrary to comments here.
The argument is as old as Slashdot itself. Theory important YES! But is that what is needed in the 21st century for EVERY use case? Don't give me the bs that is what ITT is as HR thinks CS == subnetting and help desk skills. Indians have them. Americans do not unless they are experienced which is expensive.
CS is obsolete and needs a medium. English teachers yes would not be qualified but part of the problem is CS itself
Windows 10 enterprise doesn't have spyware. Only the home and professional versions do so the point is mute. Great way too to enforce companies buy an expensive corporate blanket and not save with the pro version
He is or was a professionally trained Jedi and gifted with the force where he can dual blindfolded. Finn has no training at all with that weapon
Thank God someone else who isn't brainwashed thinks this movie isn't God. My coworkers went as far as to call anyone who disagrees it isn't the best ever as idiots
I dont know what I saw? It may have familiar props and actors in it. But it wasnt star wars.
It is amazing what a big marketing budget can do to brainwash consumers. Light side or dark side doggie biscuits even. But phantom menace was God too when it first came out and no one would dare say anything bad due to death threats. Even Slashdot talked about how cool that prequrl is.
It didn't become OK to say it sucked until later.
The fact even Finn could defeat a dark Lord of the sith shows how much of a joke it is.
If it wasn't Star wars no one would see it. It's all branding
Yo yo hipster web developers. The new rockstar language is Erlang reborn aka Outlaw Techno Psycobitch which you can write hipster low 16 color flat modern impress your cat applications and websites!!
Perl and Ruby on rails is sooo last decade man for crusty developers
Go to the win32 world and try to package and administer an SCCM environment with system center 2012 and you will be crying for SystemD back?!
SystemD will be an excersize in simplicity in comparison
Oh?
Powershell not only has caught up these days to shells
Yeah why can't it be cool and hip like Erlang!
Outlaw Psycho Bitch is the shit man! You will have women watch you code at alternative coffee shops and groupies guaranteed!!
I bought my mother who is 63 a Nokia 640. $55 and works with tracfone. Apps, email, navigation, IE 11, and a nice on her eyes with big tiles.
It is astounding how quickly it cooled off when it separated from the earth 6,000 years ago
Dude I was told on Slashdot to change my major from computer information systems to business as by 2015 no one would program anymore. WORST mistake EVER! If grads with 0 years experience can pull 70k while managers with 10 years pull 55k I think that advise is full of it if you don't mind me saying so
Very difficult. For the 1st embarrassing time of my career I got demoted back. I kept pointing to problems and solutions which is what us non professional managerial types do. I made very powerful enemy's who wanted to be told what to hear and stressed myself crazy. It's not for everyone
I can find an Indian willing to do your job for 60k. 220k is too much money for a non executive position and a welder who is skilled can work in the oil fields for 100k
And why couldn't a robot vending machine do your job? It would be a lot cheaper
Actually the surface is Microsoft's 2nd biggest revenue now. But the intention is not to be evil. It is to protect their image and customers as security conscious. For those developing websites the day couldn't come quick enough.
Html 5 is more secure too and gives flexibility to website makers.
Jeez folks nothing wrong with change. It is not an evil conspiracy for increased security
Well when baduu and facebook no longer load and give a message to upgrade people will do so or call someone who knows something.
I mean nothing lasts forever. Do you use 2002 era phones still too? The internet is dangerous. IE 8 uses ram when you have lots of tabs too. The users there are used to the bloat and Firefox/Chrome while being more cpu intensive render javascript much much faster JIT.
This is a nudge and my guess is any pc with 128 megs of ram would be dead with bad caps dying on the board or PSU. Many systems in China that run are newer hardware downgraded to XP to cut costs since everyone pirates over there and XP is easy to do so compared to 7.
Things change and there are chinese versions of Linux in Mandrin for these users sponsored by the government. Some even have an LUNA like UI too
I noticed this a few months ago when I built a system and had it scanned for compliance and was getting hit with a several year old hole in Java. I was confused because I knew I upgraded Java on the system. Then I realized that the old version was still there. Truth be said, if I build a machine and I don't absolutely need Java on it, it doesn't get loaded. Same goes for Flash.
Could be worse. One former client of mine had an app which used security holes to function so it could do OLE with Excel 2003 and was stuck at java 1.4.2 as late as 2012. No JOKE! Worse this insecure applet was for financial processing ... face palm.
Since calling apps and inserting data every is insecure it won't function in later versions and during this customers Windows 7 deployment it became a problem. I think we found a hack where we crippled all security for all financial analysts to get it work??!
Java should just die.
At least on the web end and be used for servlets. It was very awesome and secure during the 1990s and HOT. Sun ruined it and Oracle left it to rot more. It is a classic example of brilliant engineers being ruined and restrained by management.
I'd like to point out that Firefox and Chrome still support all the way back to Windows XP (though Chrome support is ending April 2016). It is very easy to get a hold of the latest and most secure browsers available. If people are not willing to upgrade their browsers after the cutoff, well I doubt they will upgrade their operating system (because upgrading a browser is trivial, at least in comparison to upgrading an OS).
This is not what will force people to upgrade. Maybe other things, but not this.
Note: This was written more to answer the Microsoft side of the problem. Why would Google be pushing upgrades? (Genuine question)
If the OS is not secure anyway (XP was not designed with security in mind besides a password from the AOL/MSN era) and has not been patched in over a year and half defeats the purpose.
It should frankly be illegal to do any customer credit card processing on such systems.
If you are very poor Asian try putting Linux. The hardware will soon die anyway if you can't afford Windows 10 which will run on hardware from 2009 and later since it is based on the Windows 7.xx driver model.
Since when has Slashdot become a Luddite websites for those that fear change?
XP is 15 years old! Things move on. We are tired of turning down 2008 era html 5 and leaving our phones with a better browser experience because of XP IE 6/8 compatibility from a different era. If the hardware is from 2008 or earlier you can install Linux for free?
Do you not change your oil and timing belts either
Good grief 15 years is a long time in technology. A very very long time. This platform has required workaround upon work around for over 10 years now.
The only reason die hards say it is not obsolete and great do not see what crippling and sacrifices are made just to bring a web page to render. Meanwhile the rest of us have inferior sites and products thanks to these cheap skates.
Time to move on. Maybe these poor Chinese will install Linux if they have very very old hardware? Anything from 2008 and newer can run a more secure and modern system
VIsta has IE 9. It was the 1st browser with HTML 5 support outside of Chrome. Still limited with many things like WebGL and CSS 3.1 compared to Edge/IE 11, but it does support mpeg4 and HTML 5 canvas for videos in IE 9. Nothing much else
As in a million grandmas and diehards still running XP thinking E stands for Internet noticed in terror their facebooks stopped playing videos and were silenced.