Yes and it takes til the 1st service pack and about 2 years before it's stable as in server versions base their kernels and services only after a service pack and a year after.
Windows 8.1 is now being stable with it's updates not failing. 7 just worked. XP was funky until service pack 2 when it solidified. Windows 10 is as buggy as Vista. I am resisting upgrading until 10.1 next summer
The surface is just 699 and now has a quad core atom. It can run office and act as a tablet and no crappy scaled down mac office suit with a crappy ios. It is a real OS that can be used for both work and play. No laptop under 1000 is going to be good anyway in a sea of cheap plastic and garbage quality 1k screens.
Like with Apple hardware you realize how crappy the other stuff is after using it. The price is because it has a screen like no other in the pc world which can be read in sunlight. It is very light and has high quality glass. Consider a high end phone with a $90 walmart tracphone? That is what it is like. You can install Linux as well and load your own keys in uefi. What I like us portability but do like my i7 desktop for real work
MS surface is a hot seller. Slashdotter remember 2012 with the 1st genration tablets with an ARM chip.
Today the low end uses an ATOM and people are used to metro now. Yes Windows 8.1 is a joy to use on a touch screen. Not trolling but I speak as a user who loves the light portability and uses it for wiresharkING network connections at work.
All my coworkers have bought them after 1st mocking them. Seriously the screen and corporate integration are tops. I won't buy a regular laptop again as a result of the build quality and portability. Things are changing and MS now longer has them sitting in whare houses now since their hardware is their 2nd biggest revenue generator.
Of course on slashdot it is a failure and no one is buying them. But in the real world they ate the number 2 generator of revenue for Microsoft and can run office and be managed via active directory for IT departments making them popular. The screen is Apple quality hardware
That is not recommended. The quantum for the threading is set for server loads at the expense of faster performance with fewer threads. Server is tuned to running many many loads over faster smaller loads.
I see no reason to run server at all for a home OS. I use VMware and Hyper-V which is free with the pro version of Windows 8.1 to learn server, Linux, and pfSense FreeBSD routers, and run lamp stack appliances if I need something heavy duty. It is 2015 and not 2000 where you load everything you possibly need and configure one box for the master of all. Virtualization is even free if you want to download virtualbox to run server operating systems.
Companies do not make great products and innovations. PEOPLE make great products and innovations. A good company realizes this and hires the best with visions and capable employees to sell and make the product to drive it home.
When committees and marketers who often are not good at their job make the calls you are done. No software engineers who got promoted to leadership positions but rather droids.
In other worse as stated by another slashdotter all from Mozilla sounds the same as an executive of a company with a dying product desperate to stay relevant. Meanwhile we all moved on. RealNetworks will be waiting for them on the other side eventually.
It is the worst browser. IE 11 is ok and is W3C compliant. MS Edge is even better and Windows 10.1 next spring will have Edge with Webkit extensions too! Opera uses Chromium minus the spyware. No one cares about Google spying. It is the best browser. IE 11 is usable. Edge is good.
Where does this leave Firefox? Firefox is stuck in a timewarp and is turning into what Netscape was. A social media engine and bug ridden product. In the end AOL got a branded IE 6 and named it AOLNetscape even though they freaking owned the browser in the very end.
Technology wise it is a decade behind as it has no multi core cpu support with processes unlike IE 8 and Chrome 1.0 circa 2009. No lowrights mode in %appdata again solved in 2009. It has the most security vulnerabilities too. IE is very tight nowdays in comparison.
We moved on. The only thing that can save it is a new fresh rewrite similiar to Firefox from Netscape/Mozilla and IE did to become Edge in Windows 10. Scrap the old code and start a fresh.
Erlang is the shittier man compared to PHP and is sooo kewl with this new version of Erlang called "Outlaw Techno Bitch!?" It's the new trend with your NoSQL database
As economies of scale cheapen SSD's the same economies of scale raise the price of HDD's as less people purchase them.
There will come a time when a new R&D investment will not make much business sense anymore. True today they are still cheaper but if we had a graph showing the trends you will see a point.
Problem is motherboard makers artificially turn it off to force you to buy the more expensive boards. AMD chipset agreement forces makers to have virtualuzation on. So you need a $150 board which defeats the purpose
You can still get Haswell with much cheaper DDR 4. Haswell is faster than Skylake per IPC clock cycle. Haswell i3/5/7 4xxx still is the benchmark king for non multi threaded loads. If you are looking at a dual core system then skylake and DDR 4 high bandwidth ram won't be much of a use.
If you want multi cores for database/VM stuff for cheap look into AMD.
Even though I own an i7 I highly recommend AMD for tight budgets as their EFI bios does not lock out virtualization and you can get 6 and 8 core systems for about the same price as an i3?? Sure the IPC for single threaded apps is not all that great but for running GCC, Mysql, and VMWare Workstation/Virtual Box that load works well with skylake and AMD systems. Guess which is more value.
I assume you run Linux to do these things so a pentium is not good as gcc can be run in parallel and everyone who is someone in the sys admin world runs VM's with custom linux applicances like pfsense, turnkey linux lamp stacks and so on for training.
But if you are rich and can afford $2,000 get an i7 skylake and raid 0 SSDs. Awesome performance for these taks
I never felt so humiliated and a slave and my body shutdown. My blood vessels were bursting at the soles of my feet and heels. In torture you always sleep deprieve the victim. So in essence it is torture for the poor folks stuck being taken advantage of.
Even then you have to ask yourself if it makes more sense to hire managers where the jobs are... in India or China.
Management jobs are very expensive and it makes sense to outsource these jobs overseas to cheaper markets next. Programmers, sys administrators, supervisors, managers, and soon directors.
Only the very top VP's will be left. In the decades next everyone but the CEO will be overseas as the production, supply chain, customers, vendors, and everyone else will only be Asian or African!
The reason your dad (or grandfather) likely held the same job his entire life is because 50 years ago, employers were invested in, and took care of, their employees. My grandfather worked for GE his entire life (outside his time in WWII), and it wasn't because there weren't other jobs he could have gone to. They offered him a pension, which you just cannot find anymore. Today you get crappy health care, and if you're lucky a 3% pay raise every year, and if you are high enough on the ladder, a Christmas bonus that actually means anything. Employers just don't invest in employees like they used to.
With comments like above from employees stating they need to leave every 2 - 3 years why should employers offer any loyalty? It works both ways and it started with workers quiting from Silicon Valley. They were the 1st employees to get up and leave and swap at different companies in the 1960s. It spread.
So no loyalty to them expect no loyalty back.
That may actually be a good thing. Last thing you want as a boss is to put up with someone who hates his job and doesn't pull his weight. What if you do not like your pay and lack of expanding opportunities? It is better for higher productivity for companies and for the employee to go where his heart desires which changes over time.
I gave up on Linux as my main OS a while back. Windows 7 just works.Nvidia are the best drivers for Linux. The grandparent confirms to me why Linux is a bad idea on non server hardware.
I think it's ludricous to change my apps and lifestyle for an OS when it should be the other way around. The gimp and emacs are no photoshop and visual studio. I used vmware workstation and now Hyper-V.
No worries an update will break xorg, no hardware upgrade worries. Same VMs. Even better is with a hypervisor you can use www.turnkeylinux.com for a quick appliance. Try that on a non VM that you do not want to re-image for each appliance. I love pfsense on lampstack.
Funny I was thinking the same thing with my crappy slow and buggy samsung galaxy thats stuck with Android.
WindowsPhone is the best mobile OS I ever used with a superior UI that never crashes, freezes, or glitches and runs 400 to 500% faster. My 820 which inferior hardware to my Galaxy S 5 was so much faster. To this day cut and pasting calander events with conference calls with pins is not possible with Android. You need to write down the pin with paper and a pen.
The same sheep who choose Windows 98 over linux are the same choosing Android over Windows Phone.
This is cut and pasted from another comment as I do not want to retype. Init is serial and has trouble adapting to changes once a live system is up compared to more modern systems. Solaris, Ubuntu, and Apple all left init behind and NetBSD discourages writting init scripts by using a hybrid approach with macros that are event driven that you link instead.
My cut....
The reason is init was not designed for desktops or servers with more than a dozen applications. What if your laptop goes to sleep and wakes up on a different network? How can init with 200 lines of if/fi scripts handle something liek this? WHat if your network goes down on your server? What if your web server is hacked? What if your Oracle RDMS takes a dive?
Writting every possible conceivable combination of events with nested if/fi statements is luducrious! An event driven system makes sense.
FYI Init is not a glorified autoexec.bat for starting up. Something needs to tell the kernel which daemons to start and which arguments to pass on. Those who say otherwise do not know what Init does or it's intended use.
So Apple went 1st and everyone but Linux followed.
Name one commercial version of Unix that still is supported that uses init?
Sco Unixware is the only thing that comes close but I do not think it is supported anymore. Solaris left init in 2008 Apple left init in 2006 NetBSD left init for object oriented macros in init for a hybrid approach around 2007
If Init is so great why is everyone leaving?
The reason is init was not designed for desktops or servers with more than a dozen applications. What if your laptop goes to sleep and wakes up on a different network? How can init with 200 lines of if/fi scripts handle something liek this? WHat if your network goes down on your server? What if your web server is hacked? What if your Oracle RDMS takes a dive?
Writting every possible conceivable combination of events with nested if/fi statements is luducrious! An event driven system makes sense.
FYI Init is not a glorified autoexec.bat for starting up. Something needs to tell the kernel which daemons to start and which arguments to pass on. Those who say otherwise do not know what Init does or it's intended use.
So Apple went 1st and everyone but Linux followed.
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Oh and, I hope you don't having anything Microsoft deems as "unacceptable" such as "pirated" software. ;-)
Not to worry MS will just Uninstall your apps. I mean you did read the eula right?
Yes and it takes til the 1st service pack and about 2 years before it's stable as in server versions base their kernels and services only after a service pack and a year after.
Windows 8.1 is now being stable with it's updates not failing. 7 just worked. XP was funky until service pack 2 when it solidified. Windows 10 is as buggy as Vista. I am resisting upgrading until 10.1 next summer
The surface is just 699 and now has a quad core atom. It can run office and act as a tablet and no crappy scaled down mac office suit with a crappy ios. It is a real OS that can be used for both work and play. No laptop under 1000 is going to be good anyway in a sea of cheap plastic and garbage quality 1k screens.
Like with Apple hardware you realize how crappy the other stuff is after using it. The price is because it has a screen like no other in the pc world which can be read in sunlight. It is very light and has high quality glass. Consider a high end phone with a $90 walmart tracphone? That is what it is like. You can install Linux as well and load your own keys in uefi. What I like us portability but do like my i7 desktop for real work
MS surface is a hot seller. Slashdotter remember 2012 with the 1st genration tablets with an ARM chip.
Today the low end uses an ATOM and people are used to metro now. Yes Windows 8.1 is a joy to use on a touch screen. Not trolling but I speak as a user who loves the light portability and uses it for wiresharkING network connections at work.
All my coworkers have bought them after 1st mocking them. Seriously the screen and corporate integration are tops. I won't buy a regular laptop again as a result of the build quality and portability. Things are changing and MS now longer has them sitting in whare houses now since their hardware is their 2nd biggest revenue generator.
Of course on slashdot it is a failure and no one is buying them. But in the real world they ate the number 2 generator of revenue for Microsoft and can run office and be managed via active directory for IT departments making them popular. The screen is Apple quality hardware
That is not recommended. The quantum for the threading is set for server loads at the expense of faster performance with fewer threads. Server is tuned to running many many loads over faster smaller loads.
I see no reason to run server at all for a home OS. I use VMware and Hyper-V which is free with the pro version of Windows 8.1 to learn server, Linux, and pfSense FreeBSD routers, and run lamp stack appliances if I need something heavy duty. It is 2015 and not 2000 where you load everything you possibly need and configure one box for the master of all. Virtualization is even free if you want to download virtualbox to run server operating systems.
People forget something.
Companies do not make great products and innovations. PEOPLE make great products and innovations. A good company realizes this and hires the best with visions and capable employees to sell and make the product to drive it home.
When committees and marketers who often are not good at their job make the calls you are done. No software engineers who got promoted to leadership positions but rather droids.
In other worse as stated by another slashdotter all from Mozilla sounds the same as an executive of a company with a dying product desperate to stay relevant. Meanwhile we all moved on. RealNetworks will be waiting for them on the other side eventually.
I disagree.
It is the worst browser. IE 11 is ok and is W3C compliant. MS Edge is even better and Windows 10.1 next spring will have Edge with Webkit extensions too! Opera uses Chromium minus the spyware. No one cares about Google spying. It is the best browser. IE 11 is usable. Edge is good.
Where does this leave Firefox? Firefox is stuck in a timewarp and is turning into what Netscape was. A social media engine and bug ridden product. In the end AOL got a branded IE 6 and named it AOLNetscape even though they freaking owned the browser in the very end.
Technology wise it is a decade behind as it has no multi core cpu support with processes unlike IE 8 and Chrome 1.0 circa 2009. No lowrights mode in %appdata again solved in 2009. It has the most security vulnerabilities too. IE is very tight nowdays in comparison.
We moved on. The only thing that can save it is a new fresh rewrite similiar to Firefox from Netscape/Mozilla and IE did to become Edge in Windows 10. Scrap the old code and start a fresh.
I have not seen sloan or any other replication based technology ever work reliably with Postgresql. As a result we no longer use it at work
Erlang is the shittier man compared to PHP and is sooo kewl with this new version of Erlang called "Outlaw Techno Bitch!?" It's the new trend with your NoSQL database
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Here is what you do not realize.
As economies of scale cheapen SSD's the same economies of scale raise the price of HDD's as less people purchase them.
There will come a time when a new R&D investment will not make much business sense anymore. True today they are still cheaper but if we had a graph showing the trends you will see a point.
Problem is motherboard makers artificially turn it off to force you to buy the more expensive boards. AMD chipset agreement forces makers to have virtualuzation on. So you need a $150 board which defeats the purpose
You can still get Haswell with much cheaper DDR 4. Haswell is faster than Skylake per IPC clock cycle. Haswell i3/5/7 4xxx still is the benchmark king for non multi threaded loads. If you are looking at a dual core system then skylake and DDR 4 high bandwidth ram won't be much of a use.
If you want multi cores for database/VM stuff for cheap look into AMD.
Even though I own an i7 I highly recommend AMD for tight budgets as their EFI bios does not lock out virtualization and you can get 6 and 8 core systems for about the same price as an i3?? Sure the IPC for single threaded apps is not all that great but for running GCC, Mysql, and VMWare Workstation/Virtual Box that load works well with skylake and AMD systems. Guess which is more value.
I assume you run Linux to do these things so a pentium is not good as gcc can be run in parallel and everyone who is someone in the sys admin world runs VM's with custom linux applicances like pfsense, turnkey linux lamp stacks and so on for training.
But if you are rich and can afford $2,000 get an i7 skylake and raid 0 SSDs. Awesome performance for these taks
I worked more than 1 job before. IT SUCKS??!
I never felt so humiliated and a slave and my body shutdown. My blood vessels were bursting at the soles of my feet and heels. In torture you always sleep deprieve the victim. So in essence it is torture for the poor folks stuck being taken advantage of.
Even then you have to ask yourself if it makes more sense to hire managers where the jobs are ... in India or China.
Management jobs are very expensive and it makes sense to outsource these jobs overseas to cheaper markets next. Programmers, sys administrators, supervisors, managers, and soon directors.
Only the very top VP's will be left. In the decades next everyone but the CEO will be overseas as the production, supply chain, customers, vendors, and everyone else will only be Asian or African!
The reason your dad (or grandfather) likely held the same job his entire life is because 50 years ago, employers were invested in, and took care of, their employees. My grandfather worked for GE his entire life (outside his time in WWII), and it wasn't because there weren't other jobs he could have gone to. They offered him a pension, which you just cannot find anymore. Today you get crappy health care, and if you're lucky a 3% pay raise every year, and if you are high enough on the ladder, a Christmas bonus that actually means anything. Employers just don't invest in employees like they used to.
With comments like above from employees stating they need to leave every 2 - 3 years why should employers offer any loyalty? It works both ways and it started with workers quiting from Silicon Valley. They were the 1st employees to get up and leave and swap at different companies in the 1960s. It spread.
So no loyalty to them expect no loyalty back.
That may actually be a good thing. Last thing you want as a boss is to put up with someone who hates his job and doesn't pull his weight. What if you do not like your pay and lack of expanding opportunities? It is better for higher productivity for companies and for the employee to go where his heart desires which changes over time.
Amen to that brother.
I gave up on Linux as my main OS a while back. Windows 7 just works.Nvidia are the best drivers for Linux. The grandparent confirms to me why Linux is a bad idea on non server hardware.
I think it's ludricous to change my apps and lifestyle for an OS when it should be the other way around. The gimp and emacs are no photoshop and visual studio. I used vmware workstation and now Hyper-V.
No worries an update will break xorg, no hardware upgrade worries. Same VMs. Even better is with a hypervisor you can use www.turnkeylinux.com for a quick appliance. Try that on a non VM that you do not want to re-image for each appliance. I love pfsense on lampstack.
VMs are amazing
Right because Google always has your best interests at heart
What Android is optimized for well anything???
Or just use a secure platform. Hint it's not Android.
Funny I was thinking the same thing with my crappy slow and buggy samsung galaxy thats stuck with Android.
WindowsPhone is the best mobile OS I ever used with a superior UI that never crashes, freezes, or glitches and runs 400 to 500% faster. My 820 which inferior hardware to my Galaxy S 5 was so much faster. To this day cut and pasting calander events with conference calls with pins is not possible with Android. You need to write down the pin with paper and a pen.
The same sheep who choose Windows 98 over linux are the same choosing Android over Windows Phone.
You would go out of business FAST as people would have not incentive to buy something if it is not broken.
Hacked TVS are GREAT for manufactors and retailers. More money :-)
This is cut and pasted from another comment as I do not want to retype. Init is serial and has trouble adapting to changes once a live system is up compared to more modern systems. Solaris, Ubuntu, and Apple all left init behind and NetBSD discourages writting init scripts by using a hybrid approach with macros that are event driven that you link instead.
My cut ....
The reason is init was not designed for desktops or servers with more than a dozen applications. What if your laptop goes to sleep and wakes up on a different network? How can init with 200 lines of if/fi scripts handle something liek this? WHat if your network goes down on your server? What if your web server is hacked? What if your Oracle RDMS takes a dive?
Writting every possible conceivable combination of events with nested if/fi statements is luducrious! An event driven system makes sense.
FYI Init is not a glorified autoexec.bat for starting up. Something needs to tell the kernel which daemons to start and which arguments to pass on. Those who say otherwise do not know what Init does or it's intended use.
So Apple went 1st and everyone but Linux followed.
Name one commercial version of Unix that still is supported that uses init?
Sco Unixware is the only thing that comes close but I do not think it is supported anymore.
Solaris left init in 2008
Apple left init in 2006
NetBSD left init for object oriented macros in init for a hybrid approach around 2007
If Init is so great why is everyone leaving?
The reason is init was not designed for desktops or servers with more than a dozen applications. What if your laptop goes to sleep and wakes up on a different network? How can init with 200 lines of if/fi scripts handle something liek this? WHat if your network goes down on your server? What if your web server is hacked? What if your Oracle RDMS takes a dive?
Writting every possible conceivable combination of events with nested if/fi statements is luducrious! An event driven system makes sense.
FYI Init is not a glorified autoexec.bat for starting up. Something needs to tell the kernel which daemons to start and which arguments to pass on. Those who say otherwise do not know what Init does or it's intended use.
So Apple went 1st and everyone but Linux followed.