Doing this these days will usually yield you one or two real copies, and hundreds of viruse files or trojans.
I just tried this on Gnucleus: I searched for "Hips Don't Lie" from "Shakira". I'm not a fan or so, it was just the first popular thing that popped up in my mind. After a few seconds waiting I got over 3000 hits, then I just sorted on size in reverse order. Those 200KiByte zip files and exe files won't fool anyone that knows that a regular MP3 is about 3MiByte. Now sort on "Distribution" (number of hosts having the same file), and downloaded it. (
For sure, it was indeed the correct song. I have now deleted it again, since I do not care much about the song, but frankly it's not as if it's unmanagable for a non-technical person. I have given Gnucleus to some non-tech-friends and they use it all the time without any problem (of course, they are behind a hardware firewall and have antivirus software installed and up to date)
That little expandy bar NEEDS at least 1.5GHz of power to be usable.
P-III 600MHz mobile here and the thing works just fine. Sure, the images are a bit jaggy, but it's usable. Sure the CPU runs at 100% when I use the thing, but it's not the end of the world. I think that a 1GHz proc would cope without "jaggyness", but I have none around to test.
I know you mean this as a joke, but no.... it isn't. I have a 80 square metre apartment made of concrete and the signal of my Linksys WPA is weak 5 metres away in the living room. The sweex adapter gets high noise and low signal.... Both in Windows XP and FreeBSD.
This is not the fault of the operating systems, it's the concrete.... One doesn't have to be a genius to figure that out.
My parents have a wooden house and the same Linksys WPA. With my network adapter I can go anywhere and have a perfect connection.
It does make it a PITA if you want to use a network you have no control over, but the OpenBSD crowd are like that sometimes.
Yes, it does... but it still won't keep me from financing them. They have an excellent server platform and I just delegate the wireless functions to embedded devices. It just keeps me from becoming a desktop/laptop OpenBSD user, but I don't think that it's their target.
I just started using FreeBSD 6.1 recently and I was surpised about the ease of setting it up. (Still not for the faint of heart, but Windows isn't either. If you want a nice custom setup that does what you want, you need a lot of time in Windows). My primary laptop is a P-III 600MHz with 512Meg RAM. An old fucker I bought for peanuts. It didn't have a network interface, so I added a Sweex wireless adapter. It shows up in both FreeBSD as Windows under RaLink 2500. (Note that Sweex is a cheapass brand, but for another product I had *excellent* support by email with them)
Linux.... Nothing... No out of the box recognition.
OpenBSD also recognised it but doesn't support WPA-PSK which I do require. FreeBSD supports WPA-PSK. I've been an OpenBSD fanboy for a long time, but I like FreeBSD equally now. Linux... well, somehow I have problems with most distributions. Either philosophical problems or technical problems:-) With *BSD, I have neither.
Well, it much depends on your connection. If anyone would fark/slashdot/digg me, the line would crap out before the AMD64 (and probably even before the P166). At 128kbps upstream, I won't serve much...
WTF do you run to bog that poor thing down so much? Okay, I agree you need a beefier system... (You get an AMD64 + mobo + RAM for about 300€, that's what I did) I'm not sure if what you run still qualifies as a "home server".
A decent server for home? Boy... I didn't realise I needed Dual Xeons or Quad Opterons for that. Look, about a half year ago I just went insane and bought an AMD64 2800+ with 768Meg RAM for some spare change. Does my home server need this? Of course not! The P-I MMX 166MHz/256Meg RAM machine that it replaced just did everything just fine. The AMD64 is underclocked to 800MHz by now: I don't need more. The system runs OpenBSD:
This machine runs: ssh, sendmail, imap, dhcpd, ntpd, samba, pf, apache, X + Windowmaker, ftp-proxy and whatever I am forgetting right now.
My parents server is similar, well okay, it's full SCSI, but it's a P-III 800MHz. Same services (minus X). It also replaced a P-I 166MHz (non-MMX) with 128Meg RAM. That P-I didn't cope with exactly one thing I tried: IMAP. That was a bit too much. The P-III 800MHz? No problem at all. Oh, and this machine has way more users than the AMD64.
For home servers, one doesn't need much.... Sure, I have an AMD64, but it definately is overkill and I should have gone with something quieter.
in which people are actually admitting they run Windows.
I don't think it is a shame to admit running Windows, even on slashdot. You see, slashdot is not only for Linux fanboys, it is for all breeds of computer enthousiasts (and even other breeds of geeks, like scientists) Many people here like their games, and unless they completely switched to consoles (which is hard for some type of games), they will run Windows. Others are switchers and love OS X (Hey, I ran OS X for three years) Then others (like me), would like to run Linux but eventually we come to a show-stopper. Let it be a game, or something simple that really is much harder in Linux.
Oh, and then I also have to think of my family. I impose their OS, but I cannot (in good concience) inflict Linux on them if I cannot use it 100% of the time myself. I simply cannot give Linux to my wife (a kindergarden teacher), nor to my mom (absolute novice user) or dad (poweruser), or my brother (gamer) or my sister (flash-game-addict and musician).
As said, for personal use I think going FreeBSD but that is something completely unacceptable for any of the above people. They will run Vista some day and I will have to support it.
No thanks. I'll settle for Windows XP Professional.
Well, while I agree with all your points. The thing is: I said exactly the same a few years ago when I was running Windows 2000. I thought I would never upgrade... Yet, now I run Windows XP Professional. Why? Well, XP had one thing I really liked (and is very useful on a multi-user-home-machine: fast user switching. I only "upgraded" to Windows XP in 2005, so I am "late" to Windows XP. I always end up upgrading late, because I think it's better that other people test the damned thing and find the quirks.
For now, I do not see any reason to upgrade to Windows Vista, but we'll talk again in 2008, when WinXP isn't supported anymore. Currently, I am evaluating FreeBSD as a complete replacement (and I like it...) Perhaps in 2008, I'll be running FreeBSD exclusively. If not, then I'll probably will be running Vista. You'll probably end up in the same boat as me: either a free OS or Windows Vista. Espcially when you buy a new machine and can't get a (legal) copy of XP anymore...
Indeed. The command line is hard! (For most people, not for me...) There is however no reason that they couldn't add this as a cron-job in the default install.
That's because openssh is no longer 'on' in the default install,
That's odd, because I installed 3.9 last wednesday and ssh was definately enabled on default install. You don't have to take my word for it, just head over to the Installation FAQ and see for yourself:
Start sshd(8) by default? [yes] y
If asking a question that defaults to "yes" isn't "default install", I don't know what it is.
If you use WinNT4, Win2K or WinXP you cannot change the clock either if you are a limited user (The name in Win2K and WinNT4 was simply "User"). You would know this if you used your Windows machine as it was intended to be used: with a Limited User account.
Oh, and frankly... that's completely legit. Only the root/administrator can change anything that is hardware related and that includes the clock. Besides, most operating systems (be it Windows, *BSD or Linux) do automatic NTP synchronization these days.
She had no idea free software was legal and capable. Where have I failed?
Nowhere. The idea of free software is completely alien to common people. I tried to explain it to my father in law some day, and in the end it was "if it costs nothing it has no value". My father in law has a very successful business, I guess that is why he couldn't understand. He's not the only one. Some people think that anything you download from the internet is either "Free and legal" (I have met people that think that downloading music with Morpheus is legal) or "Illegal" (Anything that doesn't cost something is illegal).
Most people simply have no idea.... I personally think that they simply cannot understand... I don't try to explain it anymore, I gave up.
Any sysadmin who configures sshd to allow direct access to a root account is incompetent and deserves to clean up the resulting mess when they are cracked.
So you are calling the OpenBSD guys incompetent? After all, if you enable SSH in the default installation, you can SSH into that machine including as root.
Since I'm at home now, I have the link I talked about: Enjoy!. (Did not test link, my ftp-proxy is a bit flakey... I need to fix that when I have more time)
XP Home does have ACLs. On the command line there is something called "cacls". I have to admit that it was very dumb of Microsoft to remove the graphical ACL panels in the Home edition.
There is an addon to get the graphical configuration panels back. (Made by Microsoft themselves) Alas, I don't remember where to find it, but I'm sure a few googles will give you the answer. (I have the link in a bookmark at home)
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Doing this these days will usually yield you one or two real copies, and hundreds of viruse files or trojans.
I just tried this on Gnucleus: I searched for "Hips Don't Lie" from "Shakira". I'm not a fan or so, it was just the first popular thing that popped up in my mind. After a few seconds waiting I got over 3000 hits, then I just sorted on size in reverse order. Those 200KiByte zip files and exe files won't fool anyone that knows that a regular MP3 is about 3MiByte. Now sort on "Distribution" (number of hosts having the same file), and downloaded it. (
For sure, it was indeed the correct song. I have now deleted it again, since I do not care much about the song, but frankly it's not as if it's unmanagable for a non-technical person. I have given Gnucleus to some non-tech-friends and they use it all the time without any problem (of course, they are behind a hardware firewall and have antivirus software installed and up to date)
That little expandy bar NEEDS at least 1.5GHz of power to be usable.
P-III 600MHz mobile here and the thing works just fine. Sure, the images are a bit jaggy, but it's usable. Sure the CPU runs at 100% when I use the thing, but it's not the end of the world. I think that a 1GHz proc would cope without "jaggyness", but I have none around to test.
Good to know... I downloaded 6.06 recently, but didn't have the time yet to try it out. It would be great if my wireless would be supported.
My card is a PCMCIA card. Didn't work.... Perhaps my ubuntu was too old.
Good to know, I always wanted a Linux desktop :-) I'll try in december... By then support will be there.
This is not the fault of the operating systems, it's the concrete.... One doesn't have to be a genius to figure that out.
My parents have a wooden house and the same Linksys WPA. With my network adapter I can go anywhere and have a perfect connection.
It does make it a PITA if you want to use a network you have no control over, but the OpenBSD crowd are like that sometimes.
Yes, it does... but it still won't keep me from financing them. They have an excellent server platform and I just delegate the wireless functions to embedded devices. It just keeps me from becoming a desktop/laptop OpenBSD user, but I don't think that it's their target.
I just started using FreeBSD 6.1 recently and I was surpised about the ease of setting it up. (Still not for the faint of heart, but Windows isn't either. If you want a nice custom setup that does what you want, you need a lot of time in Windows). My primary laptop is a P-III 600MHz with 512Meg RAM. An old fucker I bought for peanuts. It didn't have a network interface, so I added a Sweex wireless adapter. It shows up in both FreeBSD as Windows under RaLink 2500. (Note that Sweex is a cheapass brand, but for another product I had *excellent* support by email with them)
Linux.... Nothing... No out of the box recognition.
OpenBSD also recognised it but doesn't support WPA-PSK which I do require. FreeBSD supports WPA-PSK. I've been an OpenBSD fanboy for a long time, but I like FreeBSD equally now. Linux... well, somehow I have problems with most distributions. Either philosophical problems or technical problems :-) With *BSD, I have neither.
Well, it much depends on your connection. If anyone would fark/slashdot/digg me, the line would crap out before the AMD64 (and probably even before the P166). At 128kbps upstream, I won't serve much...
WTF do you run to bog that poor thing down so much? Okay, I agree you need a beefier system... (You get an AMD64 + mobo + RAM for about 300€, that's what I did) I'm not sure if what you run still qualifies as a "home server".
This machine runs: ssh, sendmail, imap, dhcpd, ntpd, samba, pf, apache, X + Windowmaker, ftp-proxy and whatever I am forgetting right now.
My parents server is similar, well okay, it's full SCSI, but it's a P-III 800MHz. Same services (minus X). It also replaced a P-I 166MHz (non-MMX) with 128Meg RAM. That P-I didn't cope with exactly one thing I tried: IMAP. That was a bit too much. The P-III 800MHz? No problem at all. Oh, and this machine has way more users than the AMD64.
For home servers, one doesn't need much.... Sure, I have an AMD64, but it definately is overkill and I should have gone with something quieter.
in which people are actually admitting they run Windows.
I don't think it is a shame to admit running Windows, even on slashdot. You see, slashdot is not only for Linux fanboys, it is for all breeds of computer enthousiasts (and even other breeds of geeks, like scientists) Many people here like their games, and unless they completely switched to consoles (which is hard for some type of games), they will run Windows. Others are switchers and love OS X (Hey, I ran OS X for three years) Then others (like me), would like to run Linux but eventually we come to a show-stopper. Let it be a game, or something simple that really is much harder in Linux.
Oh, and then I also have to think of my family. I impose their OS, but I cannot (in good concience) inflict Linux on them if I cannot use it 100% of the time myself. I simply cannot give Linux to my wife (a kindergarden teacher), nor to my mom (absolute novice user) or dad (poweruser), or my brother (gamer) or my sister (flash-game-addict and musician).
As said, for personal use I think going FreeBSD but that is something completely unacceptable for any of the above people. They will run Vista some day and I will have to support it.
No thanks. I'll settle for Windows XP Professional.
Well, while I agree with all your points. The thing is: I said exactly the same a few years ago when I was running Windows 2000. I thought I would never upgrade... Yet, now I run Windows XP Professional. Why? Well, XP had one thing I really liked (and is very useful on a multi-user-home-machine: fast user switching. I only "upgraded" to Windows XP in 2005, so I am "late" to Windows XP. I always end up upgrading late, because I think it's better that other people test the damned thing and find the quirks.
For now, I do not see any reason to upgrade to Windows Vista, but we'll talk again in 2008, when WinXP isn't supported anymore. Currently, I am evaluating FreeBSD as a complete replacement (and I like it...) Perhaps in 2008, I'll be running FreeBSD exclusively. If not, then I'll probably will be running Vista. You'll probably end up in the same boat as me: either a free OS or Windows Vista. Espcially when you buy a new machine and can't get a (legal) copy of XP anymore...
I more wonder how someone got three girls together that actually were willing to do that... I guess I don't get out enough...
Indeed. The command line is hard! (For most people, not for me...) There is however no reason that they couldn't add this as a cron-job in the default install.
And just you wait, France will develop a European alternative to that Fourier nonsense as well!
Read ... And notice the country....
Mod the guy up.. He might be a troll, but he is funny :-D
That's odd, because I installed 3.9 last wednesday and ssh was definately enabled on default install. You don't have to take my word for it, just head over to the Installation FAQ and see for yourself:
Start sshd(8) by default? [yes] y
If asking a question that defaults to "yes" isn't "default install", I don't know what it is.
I'm still lucky. My 5 jaz disks are just working fine. I also have 90MB Bernouilli disks and those still work fine too. Amazing...
I think it was ssh, but frankly... One remote hole in 8 years... I would be confident in that software too!
Strange... I still have my 1G Jaz drive (SCSI, I don't think they had other interfaces) and it still works fine. Must have been lucky...
If you use WinNT4, Win2K or WinXP you cannot change the clock either if you are a limited user (The name in Win2K and WinNT4 was simply "User"). You would know this if you used your Windows machine as it was intended to be used: with a Limited User account.
Oh, and frankly... that's completely legit. Only the root/administrator can change anything that is hardware related and that includes the clock. Besides, most operating systems (be it Windows, *BSD or Linux) do automatic NTP synchronization these days.
Nowhere. The idea of free software is completely alien to common people. I tried to explain it to my father in law some day, and in the end it was "if it costs nothing it has no value". My father in law has a very successful business, I guess that is why he couldn't understand. He's not the only one. Some people think that anything you download from the internet is either "Free and legal" (I have met people that think that downloading music with Morpheus is legal) or "Illegal" (Anything that doesn't cost something is illegal).
Most people simply have no idea.... I personally think that they simply cannot understand... I don't try to explain it anymore, I gave up.
So you are calling the OpenBSD guys incompetent? After all, if you enable SSH in the default installation, you can SSH into that machine including as root.
Since I'm at home now, I have the link I talked about: Enjoy!. (Did not test link, my ftp-proxy is a bit flakey... I need to fix that when I have more time)
There is an addon to get the graphical configuration panels back. (Made by Microsoft themselves) Alas, I don't remember where to find it, but I'm sure a few googles will give you the answer. (I have the link in a bookmark at home)