Sting sang background on the Dire Straits song, and actually received a cowriting credit, since he used the tune of The Police's "Don't stand so close to me".
What's that supposed to mean? Do you think developers are sitting around not sure what to do with themselves? And now that you've shared your insight, they will jump up and make their projects easier to use?
Show me ONE Linux developer who's willing to talk about interface and ease of use. No one cares, and it shows.
If you point out the usability flaws in an application, you get flamed. I'm not a coder, what else can I do?
"I like computers and computing, and I like Linux a lot, but I am not that happy with the current state of client applications, and a bit frustrated tying to use various PDAs, scanners, cameras, printers, etc, with my Linux box."
What a telling comment on the state of Linux. Same boat I'm in. This guy is no newbie, yet it still gives him fits.
- Hindered by using only one menubar instead of every application having its own menubar in the window
I'd argue that this is a benefit, and the "right" way to do things, not a problem.
Currently I'm a Windows guy by necessity, but the way Macs handle the menus is way better - the menu is always at the top, so it's easy to jump to it with the mouse, and you can't overshoot it, since it's at the top. Using the "windows way" I'm always overshooting windows and switching apps unintentionally.
'Power users' can buy a multi-button mouse. End of the story.
Let me know when I can install a multi-button mouse INSIDE the laptop, in place of the one button one, and then I'll be happy. I don't want to have to drag an external mouse everywhere, and I simply CAN'T use one in a car, bus, train, etc.
I want two buttons ON the laptop, not on an external mouse. What if I'm on an airplane, or on a car or train? An external mouse only solves the problem if you're sitting at a desk.
The steep learning curve compared to about any other operating system out there is a major factor in Linux' cost.
Sadly, true. Unfortunately, you can't fix it without admitting that there is a problem, and I haven't had any luck convincing anyone that Linux has serious user-friendliness flaws. Can't see the forest for the trees, I suppose...
It's different markets. Most people I know would do fine with an iMac and have no need for a wasteful P4 system.
I AGREE. The problem is that if you are NOT one of those people that would do fine with an iMac, and do need an expandable tower computer, Apple wants you to spend $1700! There is no other option. Why no lowend tower with 3 PCI slots and no monitor?
What you're suggesting is roughly equivalent to suggesting that gas stations sell gas for less than it costs them, because 'well, they made money before, so they can afford to lose some now'.
Except that selling them for $500 less would not mean Apple is selling them at a loss. How else do you think they can sell towers for $1100 that used to be $1700? I guarantee you they still make a profit on an education sale... their margins are outrageous.
Yeah, thanks for making my point, like I said, why would I bother enrolling in community college just to buy a computer! That's a ridiculous solution. A better solution would be for them to make use of the $5 billion they have in the bank and lower their fucking prices.
Even if I boot unplugged, mine appears to switch back to the higher speed as soon as I plug back in. It also toggles down if I boot plugged in and then unplug.
You're right, I am absolutely not the target audience for the iMac - the G4 tower is what I need. The problem is that the G4 tower is too expensive.
That is my complaint - I say Apple is too expensive, and the Mac people say "what about the iMac?", which is the problem. It's not the equivalent of an expandable, upgradeable computer like an Athlon tower.
In order to get that, I need to get a G4 tower. Which is a lot of money to spend, just to get a computer with slots.
Obviously with today's super-hot processors, lack of cooling, even for a short period of time can be a disaster.
I've got kind of the opposite situtation - a laptop that runs really hot. I'd like to slow down the CPU (300 mhz would be plenty) to allow it to run cooler, which might hopefully also make the battery last longer.
Does anyone know of any utilities? I don't think the BIOS will allow me to set the CPU speed and multiplier. It does support SpeedStep - is there a way to force speedstep on always?
Ask anyone who owns a PowerMac 7200 what they think about the "upgradability" of those computers. $400 buys you a 300 mhz upgrade card. For the same money, you could buy 3 Athlons. I'm sorry but that is a ripoff.
An iMac is not competitively priced with Wintel, sorry. It's stupid design has an integrated monitor with no PCI slots, making it unusable for much of the computing population.
I can now buy a Pentium IV computer from Dell for under $900, which is faster and MUCH more expandable to boot. How is the iMac "competitive" with that?
Maybe this will mean cheaper G4s for those of us who buy computers somewhat lower on the food chain, too.
Right... just like all those $699 G3 towers Apple has marketed. Sorry - not going to happen. Apple has proven time and time again that they don't care about competing on price. (No, the iMac, with dinky integrated monitor and no slots does not count).
A $700 expandable tower computer is exactly the kind of machine I would buy from Apple. They could easily hit this price point. However, they refuse to sell it to me.
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Slow sales aside, perhaps it's just not a good time to be selling encryption (from a political standpoint).
Sting sang background on the Dire Straits song, and actually received a cowriting credit, since he used the tune of The Police's "Don't stand so close to me".
Show me ONE Linux developer who's willing to talk about interface and ease of use. No one cares, and it shows.
If you point out the usability flaws in an application, you get flamed. I'm not a coder, what else can I do?
Thanks for that link... hilarious.
What a telling comment on the state of Linux. Same boat I'm in. This guy is no newbie, yet it still gives him fits.
Easier, people, easier!
I'd argue that this is a benefit, and the "right" way to do things, not a problem.
Currently I'm a Windows guy by necessity, but the way Macs handle the menus is way better - the menu is always at the top, so it's easy to jump to it with the mouse, and you can't overshoot it, since it's at the top. Using the "windows way" I'm always overshooting windows and switching apps unintentionally.
Let me know when I can install a multi-button mouse INSIDE the laptop, in place of the one button one, and then I'll be happy. I don't want to have to drag an external mouse everywhere, and I simply CAN'T use one in a car, bus, train, etc.
LOL, join the club, it doesn't work on Windows either so you aren't missing much :)
I want two buttons ON the laptop, not on an external mouse. What if I'm on an airplane, or on a car or train? An external mouse only solves the problem if you're sitting at a desk.
The steep learning curve compared to about any other operating system out there is a major factor in Linux' cost.
Sadly, true. Unfortunately, you can't fix it without admitting that there is a problem, and I haven't had any luck convincing anyone that Linux has serious user-friendliness flaws. Can't see the forest for the trees, I suppose...
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I AGREE. The problem is that if you are NOT one of those people that would do fine with an iMac, and do need an expandable tower computer, Apple wants you to spend $1700! There is no other option. Why no lowend tower with 3 PCI slots and no monitor?
Except that selling them for $500 less would not mean Apple is selling them at a loss. How else do you think they can sell towers for $1100 that used to be $1700? I guarantee you they still make a profit on an education sale... their margins are outrageous.
Yeah, thanks for making my point, like I said, why would I bother enrolling in community college just to buy a computer! That's a ridiculous solution. A better solution would be for them to make use of the $5 billion they have in the bank and lower their fucking prices.
Is there a working GUI client to Audiogalaxy for Linux? Or is it still CLI only?
Too bad I'm not a student. Why do I have to lie about my educational status to get a good price from Apple?
The problem is that if you DO need slots and expandability, Apple's cheapest offering is $1700.
According to Apple, none of their computers are intended to be upgraded.
Even if I boot unplugged, mine appears to switch back to the higher speed as soon as I plug back in. It also toggles down if I boot plugged in and then unplug.
That is my complaint - I say Apple is too expensive, and the Mac people say "what about the iMac?", which is the problem. It's not the equivalent of an expandable, upgradeable computer like an Athlon tower.
In order to get that, I need to get a G4 tower. Which is a lot of money to spend, just to get a computer with slots.
I've got kind of the opposite situtation - a laptop that runs really hot. I'd like to slow down the CPU (300 mhz would be plenty) to allow it to run cooler, which might hopefully also make the battery last longer.
Does anyone know of any utilities? I don't think the BIOS will allow me to set the CPU speed and multiplier. It does support SpeedStep - is there a way to force speedstep on always?
Ask anyone who owns a PowerMac 7200 what they think about the "upgradability" of those computers. $400 buys you a 300 mhz upgrade card. For the same money, you could buy 3 Athlons. I'm sorry but that is a ripoff.
I can now buy a Pentium IV computer from Dell for under $900, which is faster and MUCH more expandable to boot. How is the iMac "competitive" with that?
Right... just like all those $699 G3 towers Apple has marketed. Sorry - not going to happen. Apple has proven time and time again that they don't care about competing on price. (No, the iMac, with dinky integrated monitor and no slots does not count).
A $700 expandable tower computer is exactly the kind of machine I would buy from Apple. They could easily hit this price point. However, they refuse to sell it to me.