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File Sharing: Decentralizing, Open-Source Fasttrack
Eloquence writes: "I've written a comparison of current file sharing software; what's interesting is that the original centralized indexing concepts are losing ground because of filters, and most relevant file sharing systems by now use at least a server-network, or a completely decentralized architecture. Unfortunately, most networks are proprietary, but at least there is now an open-source client to access the most popular network, Fasttrack's Kazaa/Morpheus, which was originally only accessible under Windows (around 500,000 users online at any time)."
I've always preferred Direct Connect (www.neo-modus.com), always seemed pretty good, except when seraching for mp3's, I've used winmx (www.winmx.com)
grendel
www.militantpoetry.org
The comparison seems to have left out a lot of good
Opennap clients like lopster and gnapster.
/Erik
Erik Dalén
You forgot about looking into Swap Nut. I poked at it a few times while in windows and, although I have only ever used napster for file sharing, I liked its ease of use, and the multiple file searches at the same time. It also had other things I liked, like suspecting IPs in the 192.168.x.x range probably wouldn't get me the files I wanted.
Oh, and I was sorta put off when a friend first recomended it by name only... Then I read on their site the idea is By "Going Nuts," users can search for and find almost any type of digital file (audio, video, photos etc.) through a secure [they said secure, not me, I think putting your IP all over creation isn't secure, but I digress] peer-to-peer network.
Wheeeee
It should be noted that over Morpheus you can share vorbis files. So if you want to share some vorbis lovin, just share vorbis files and nothing else. No wasted bandwidth, stickin it to the RIAA, and proliferating a pure standard, what could be better?
This Wiki Feeds You TV and Anime - vidwiki.org
AudioGalaxy for Linux does not force you to install any spyware (I don't think there is something like that for Linux), and it's a really great MP3 sharing network.
All hail AudioGalaxy!
Make even shorter URLs - 8LN.org
Not to be mean, but this list in particular doesn't even clearly distinguish between the way the client and the protocol it uses, and is rather incomplete(no filesharing client list is complete without Lopster).
The open source kazaa/morpheus client seems promising, but it looks a bit prerelease, not quite News for Nerds, Stuff That Matters grade material really.
Linux? is that some new fangled hippie programming tool? does it run on windows?
most blow, especially mactella and audigalaxy, they just crash before anything happens.
MacPhex is the only good downloader, it runs on gnutella networks.
- Kaos games and encryption systems developer
As I recall it's younger than Windows
I honestly don't understand how this is news for nerds, or even an interesting article, anyone that refers to every irc network known to man as mIRC ("since its chat functionality can easily compete with mIRC and the like") doesn't need to be writing a comparison of anything for one thing. What happened to slashdot? All that seems to be posted any more is Software releases and bad articles?! C'mon can't we get back to real news?
fsck -t goldfish
Thanks for sharing that
I find the usage of "file sharing" a bit confusing. IMHO you can do "file sharing" as well with "globally shared filesystems". AFS would be an example (it doesn't matter if you choose Transarc AFS by IBM or OpenAFS), DFS (by IBM or M$) would be another one. One common tree for all the files, everyone sees the same tree structure.
No shit unix is older than Windows. The linux kernal was written in '91, as I recall Windows was around then.
Linux does not meet any of the UNIX specifications and would be sued into the ground by The Open Group if it was marketed as being UNIX.
Linus is a eunoch. To me, that's good e'nuff.
how bout 100GIG HD for $250, dealnews.com
I have to say I'm impressed. There is a reason that the only previous FastTrack clients were fr Windows: FastTrack is a closed source C++ based protocol stack that only exists for that operating system. FastTrack's livelihood is dependent upon licensing that stack to developers and hence keeping the protocol proprietary. That someone has reverse engineered it quite successfully is highly impressive and also a little worrisome if you're FastTrack. I'm surprised we haven't heard a lot more about this and FastTrack's response.
I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
Beshare for BeOS it use all the file system strong point.
Give it a try:
http://www.bebits.com/app/1330
I've always thought that the main advantage is that noone can shut down a decentralised network. Sure, you can ban Napster servers but you're going to need a shitload more power to ban every gnutella server out there.
I use Gnucleus here - the only real problem I've found with it is the thoughtless assholes that name files differently to confuse people.
You've got mail. Pattern baldness. - Crow
Have you been watching the old woman on the Dogma special edition DVD again?
how bout farting, it's chaper and more effective.
The current model of the Internet is not something that is going to surive the rigors of foolish governments, panicky interest groups, and greedy corporations. As we've seen time after time again, having single points of failure knocked out (regulation, threats, lawsuits, etc), we lose SO much information. Thanks to recent terrorist activities, we're going to find our bastions of freedom online gradually removed by people who honestly don't know any better.
:)
Peer2Peer, I think, is a powerful solution for us to retain the freedoms we currently enjoy on the Net. Certainly P2P helps save us from Napster-like lawsuits regarding copyrighted material. However, can we take it further? Can we deliver web page content in the P2P model, for starters? Could we move all of our Internet services to this model? Consider a world where we start using technologies that prevent any central source of information/data/etc. from being stamped out by the ignorant.
I'm basically describing a model where when a source, be it a group or an individual, publishes something, it is in the network forever. Regardless of what happens to that source, tens of thousands of other machines will always be carrying that forbidden data. It couldn't be stopped. Sure we'd gather up massive amounts of garbage and quickly antiquated material, but every piece of knowledge out there is bound to be of value to at least somebody.
P2P could bring about the global consciousness that the Internet was meant to be. Lucky for us, you can't kill a brain by trashing a few neurons.
Why bother.
Have a look at freenet. I think this might be what you are looking for.
Paul Leader
According to the January issue of American Demographics, a magazine which hardly supports radical copyright-infringers, music sites like Napster have created "powerful new opportunities for music marketeers." Despite the best efforts of the greedy record companies and a few recording stars -- Metallica and Dr. Dre come readily to mind -- to alienate a new generation of music lovers, recent figures prove that file-sharing services actually generate sales and put more money in artists' pockets.
This has enormous implications for those making movies, publishing books, or creating any kind of saleable entertainment. It suggests that the Net may work best as a three-step process: first connecting customers with culture, then generating interest in cultural and informational offerings, then keeping track of their tastes through sophisticated new digital marketing research. Theoretically, file-sharing approaches could go beyond shopping to stimulate interest in education, business, even politics, if the music experience is any indicator. And it sure ought to be.
The relationship between new decentralized software programs -- Napster, Freenet, Gnutella, P2P -- and such issues as copyright infringement, artists rights and conventional retailing is complicated. Legal, political, educational and other institutions haven't begun to sort through them. But clearly the music industry's panicky and greedy overreaction will prove one of the most dunder-headed, short-sighted responses in recent business history. The industry couldn't have been more off-base, dishonest or greedy.
Nearly 75 percent of college students have downloaded music from the Net, 58 percent of them using Napster, according to a recent study by Greenfield Online, a Connecticut research firm, and YouthStream Media Networks. Nearly two-thirds of the 1,135 college students surveyed say they download music as a way to sample music before buying it. The proliferation of online music is introducing consumes to artists they don't know, in almost precisely the same way department stores offer samples of food, perfume and other retail items. A survey by Yankelovich Partners for the Digital Media Association found that about half the music fans in the U.S. turn to look for artists they can't or don't hear in other venues, like radio. Nearly two-thirds of those who downloaded music from the Web say that their search ended in a music purchase. Music labels should have been donating money to Napster users, not threatening to sue them and chase the site off of college campuses.
And the much-libeled Napster users are dedicated music buyers, quick to reach for their wallets. Jupiter Research says it found that 45 per cent of online music fans are more likely to have increased their music purchases than online fans who don't use Napster. The Jupiter study of Napster users found that 71 percent of users say they're willing to pay to download an entire album.
Interestingly, reports American Demographics, the Jupiter Study of Napster users found that 71 percent of those who use the site said they were willing to pay to download an entire album. But in a Greenfield Online survey of 5,200 online music shoppers, nearly 70 per cent say that they have not paid -- and will not pay -- for digital music downloads. This suggests that subscription-based services may be more likely and successful than a per-song fee system.
This potentially revolutionary model for marketing culture is about to be dismantled by the new partnership between Napster and Bertelsmann, which is giving the file-sharing site more than $50 million to develop software that will charge users for music. Bertelsmann says it will keep a part of Napster "free," but watch for yourself to see how quickly it shrinks.
These figures, remarkably, demonstrate that almost every assumption about the free music movement, reported in most media outlets and used as justification for a wave of new legislation and legal action like the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, is dead wrong:
Most music downloaders aren't thieves or pirates but music lovers willing to pay for music. Artists have made more money from this new generation of music lovers than they would have without them. The true significance of file-sharing wasn't an end to intellectual property, but an exciting new way to develop markets. Record companies and other corporations should be supporting file-sharing sites ratherthan hiring lobbyists and lawyers to intimidate, sue and enrage new and eager customers. College students have nearly universal access to broadband, and are tomorrow's mainstream consumers. The more information and culture they have access to, the likelier it is that they'll sample new venues, products and information.
Evidently, file-sharing isn't a dangerous menace but an effective new method of disseminating -- and selling -- content, and culture. Aside from these new findings, the Napster experience also suggests that when it comes to dealing with the Net, businesses often have no idea what's good for them.
And oh, yeah. Don't believe what you read about yourself.
Your dream exists: Freenet.
-- Dooferlad
Much cheaper than FTP bandwidth. plus even the slimiest southeast asian software bandit can't get her grubby paws on it.
Have you been masturbating to wrinkley old woman sex?
All G's are black, are you a G?
Isn't the freenet not also a decentral file sharing network?
I miss it in this comparison.
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Karma 50, and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt.
eDonkey 2000 for Windows is bloated IMHO. Is there a Linux clone (GUI)?
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
I used to call this usenet but I don't know what kids call it today.
I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
Microsoft Windows 1.0 was released in 1983. You are so stupid. Why do you prolong your life?
mIRC is the greatest chat software ever made. Other mIRC clients such as "BitchX" for the UNIX system are far inferior. If not for the rigorous work of Khaled Mardem-Bey what would you be doing now?
Freenet people we know you are out there! But your system seems to be "comming along" for a long time now.
With that said: You are right. There are networks such as SafeWeb that help people surf with anonimity - but from what I know don't do much for mirroring pages.
P2P networks of today are built to share files: but not information. There is a difference (to me)between mp3's, mpgs, and plain old text. Even Quake 3 Arena[full registered version].zip isn't information. I know everyone loves the P2P model of 'file sharing' but what about 'information sharing'?
Two ideas: You control the files on your PC 100%. You can add files, you can remove files. You would ideally add web pages [with images and all - via an open source compression method-which your browser decompresses and opens] or plain text files. This system requires you to gather all the pages you would need - but you have complete control over your content.
[#2]Proxy style web cache-ing + #1! This system would save bandwidth for content providers, keep pages from being altered and keep the server from getting the 'slashdot sickness'.
This system is similar to freenet. The key factors in this system are: browser integration, open source, key relay points [edu's, cyber cafe...], checksum'n of pages, and open source.
The client could easily have either a mozilla based browser or IE since mozilla source is available and IE integration is a dime a dozen.
I like idea #2. I can host my own content, mirror other people's content even on low activity host web pages for my neighbors [i've got cable].
Structured like gnutella but with a mo'betta client structure. During heavy activity a web page could give me this error: Enter web address in your "gnuholla" client to view mirrored version. Wouldn't that be nice?
Give it a blah:// protocol if you'd like; but one simple thing a p2p network needs is stats! Don't simply extend another protocol. As computers come and go off-line keep track of how long they do, when, and what speed they used, how much content they carry, how many nodes they connect to. We need smart p2p.
Gnutella's limit is bandwidth right? If the clients were smarter, bandwidth consumption becomes a smaller problem because smarter connections. If I discover 3 local IP's that carry loads of content and are online for 10 hours a day on avg then my client likes him. If you are an edu site or on a Tx you can have the ability to only let clients who seem to be dedicated connect.
Computers of today are going to waste. I know many people on gnutella, irc, kazaa and more who are lamers with 1.4Mhz machines and close to a Gb of ram. No client out there puts real stress on their machines. A client that can be used as a mirror, a file sharing prog, traffic relay and more is a system I for one would support.
All these ideas remind me of http, gopher, archie, FTP, rolled into one. Maybe we need gnutella 5.0 the five golden rings or protocol upgrades.
Hopefully this idea isn't taken by someone writing propriety software.
Get your Unix fortune now!
I have tried all the Gnutella clients and prefer Gnotella by far. Multiple search for starts, plus the ability to switch hosts/servers on the fly, so if you find a faster connection you can use it, and continue the download seamlessly.
you can find Gnotella here and the Gnotella Forums Here.
Simply put, it is the best client to get your stuff...
/dev/random | p2p-upload
enough said.
Why yes. Yes I have.
here's a one-liner that shows that muslims don't really have a monopoly on evil:
here you go
You have forgotten my client :)
There are several open DirectConnect clients available, the protocol is far from closed. http://javadc.sourceforge.net contains more info regarding my java client.
Erm...I'm no expert but isn't GNU (as in GNU/Linux) not a recursive acronym for Gnu Isn't Unix? Hmm.
A word can paint a thousand pictures
For those of you who are unfamiliar with Johnathan Edwards, he was one of the greatest Puritan preachers in colonial America. For those who would like to imagine Edwards preaching the firey sermon shown above, an excellent, true-to-life engraving of him can be found here.
Would it be too much to ask of you to review Jeremy Friesners lovely BeShare client? It's a really nice opensource client based on the MUSCLE system. It's currently only available for BeOS. But downloading and installing BeOS PE is a trivial task, so that's no excuse.
:)
It doesn't have a large userbase(yet), but I think the technology is what's most important here.
The server compiles on pretty much any OS out of the box.
Don't miss out on such a fun and original sharing client
Here's a link: http://www.lcscanada.com/beshare/index.html
Happy sharing!
of them all must be Beshare.
Well, I guess you've never heard of it.
freenet:MSK@SSK@9BRxNPeBdBVvWUIJb7etC52nlUUQAgE/Co ntentOfEvil//Filez.htm
(ok, I know it says "Filez", but they're mostly plain-text filez.)
It's NetMess, decentralized, work through HTTP proxy (at work :), and is native under linux.
http://netmess.multimania.com
It's called Netmess, (http://netmess.multimania.com).
It works through HTTP proxy (at work), is able to resume downloads from clones on other nodes, share evrything, and works under linux too.
This is getting old now.
What i want to know is what exactly is meant by "de-centralized network". I want to find the p2p file sharing client that if i take 4 computers and hook them up, not connected to the internet, in a local network, the file sharing will work like a charm. I say that because on the college campus where i reside, they've blocked morpheus. I want something that will use the local connection, even if the gateway has a filter on it.
This to me was part of the beauty of napster - napster was never blocked on campus (i'd imagine they blocked morpheus because people were trading not only mp3's but movies, music videos, etc) but the best part of napster was you set your ping time to
That's what i want in a client.
sig?
whats that address again? doesnt work for me...
Fat lotta good it does as ISPs crank down on TOS.
/511 subnet?)
This is more relevant for broadband connections, cable ISPs are downright broadcast-like in their TOS, and since Code Red have begun enforcing this at their head ends. I haven't had a single hit for W32.nimda yet because Port 80 is blocked. This may be a little worse than it first seems, since W32.nimda can also apparently spread through browsers. The complete lack of Port 80 scans may imply not only head end filtering, but also internal filtering. (No scans at all from a
I'm still getting normal scans on other ports, so those haven't been blocked. But the TOS can be used to eliminate P2P, and I have no other high-bandwidth choices. For that matter, I could never get above V.34 on my phone line. How does P2P thrive in this situation?
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
No. That would be GIU.
It has been done at my school. All they had to do was block the port that K/M uses, and voila, no more p2p. Supposedly, they dropped our bandwidth usage by over 90%.
There is no way to tell K/M to use a different port, at least from what I saw. Whatever happened to the old goals of the Internet, sharing files freely from computer to computer?
I installed AudioGalaxy and it did ask me if I wanted their spyware crap installed on my machine. I said no on both counts (one was for Gator and I can't recall what the other one was).
The next time I rebooted my computer I see the familiar "Please wait while Windows completes installing your software" while still in DOS. Sure enough, both pieces of spyware were installed. Thankfully I have Ad-Aware installed.
if anything just due to the fact of all the damned SpyWare that gets installed with Morpheus/Kazaa.
Sheesh
'Life is like a spoonful of Drain-O, it feels good on the way down but leaves you feeling hollow inside'
Oh yeah...sheesh, how did that slip by me? Gnu's Not Linux. That's it...
A word can paint a thousand pictures
Ffs, I'm having a bad day :P GNU'S NOT UNIX. *tearing of hair, posting anonymously for fear of my karma.
A word can paint a thousand pictures.
ha ha ha
Bearshare works like a charm in a closed, local area network. I do it all the time.
hyperpoem.net
For all practical purposes (and I mean that quite literally--there are few legitimately used practical purposes for these things), this is a "guide to intellectual property piracy."
Oh, I'm sorry. Are some of you still straight-facedly waving the "mp3s must be free" banner? even pr0n generally belongs to somebody.
Will we get our own Open Source spy software, complete with programs that break the file sharing program if uninstalled (a la Kazaa)?
Espra.net Music sharing over freenet.
I know many people on gnutella, irc, kazaa and more who are lamers with 1.4Mhz machines
They *are* lamers... 1.4MHz??
It couldn't be stopped.
Well, I could easily imagine a nice P2P network application with all kinds of redundant encrypted floating data being established. Using open software with clear standards that anyone is free to implement.
Then, when some appropriate knee-jerk cause of the day comes along (terrorism || pedophiles || endangerment of someone's large revenue stream), I can see government action requiring ISPs to put in place blocks on standard ports and handshaking attempts by the P2P application. Purely, because some individual could use it for nefarious purposes is sufficient to get the P2P application banned legally or banned de facto from burdensome heavy-handed indiscriminate restrictions.
Then, in essence, your P2P application would become useless to the great large user base that it really needs in order to be effective. Sure the data is floating around on a few servers, but if no-one can connect to those servers, then it's as if the data did not exist.
Is this what is happenning under more authoritarian regimes now? I would speculate that only the technically sophisticated Chinese citizens are able to routinely work around government-mandated restrictions on internet usage. It could happen here, too.
"Provided by the management for your protection."
Have any of you ever used fair share? I hear numerous good things about it, but have never tried it. Is there a linux client?
garc
Yes. Although what you describe sounds something like what Akamai does, it would be really nice to see some Open Source packages that could do this. Particularly during last Tuesday's site-killing traffic surge, it would have been useful if anyone w/ bandwidth could have made their machine into a constantly-updated mirror, quickly and automatically.
There would obviously have to be some mechanism for users to locate the mirrors, which could come and go with some frequency. I'm not sure if DNS is ideal for this, as it still has a single point of failure. Other issues have to do with interactivity, which might be all but impossible in such a distributed environment.
You could set up a local BeShare network. Although not all ordinary people understand to run BeOS.
As a student at the university of Maine, I've noticed this year that the ds3 pair coming out of portland up here has been so incredibly saturated since everyone has arrived, I can't get much better than 56k-like connections to most internet sites. I, like many many many other people up here right now blame P2P programs, specifically Kazaa, for this massive traffic increase this year. At this point I'm so frustrated with it that I'd rather just see the RIAA and the MPAA bring down P2P because the traffic it generates ultimately ruins everyone's connection. It doesn't really have a "useful" use anyhow. At least I have I2 connectivity up here, so I can get SOME things at a reasonable speed.
The music business puts out a product that you are expected to pay for, you can choose to buy the product or you can steal it and suffer the consequences should you be caught. That's fair. If you don't like the prices they charge, then you can choose not to buy. After a while they will be forced to lower the prices if no one is buying. So finding better ways to steal things is not the way to go in my opinion.. it's still just plain wrong. If people really don't want to pay anything for music they should just form free music communities, sort of like how Linux came about. Of course there are reasons why this hasn't happened yet, but I won't get into those here.
SwapNut is Limewire + new marketing.
Limwire just a Gnutella client. there is nothing new here except a new logo.. even the app looks excactly the same.
btw, I found the article amazing shallow incomplete and lacking in any technical merit, it appeared that the author copy and pasted the PR release then added a sentence or two about what his 30 second impression was.
For one FreeNet was not mentioned, likely because the author was unable to install it (it takes a little more then double clicking on a icon). Second he seemed in the dark about the level of decentralization that many of the apps had, for instance eDonkey2000 *IS* decentralized, the servers are user run, eDonkey themselves do not list anything. He failed to mention that FastTrack (aka Morpheus, Kazza) also feature multiplexed downloads like eDonkey2000. No mention of the failings of the Gnutella network, the progress Bearshare and Limewire are making to improve it...
Bah, the list goes on. The really dishearting part is interest in P2P (gaud i hate that term) has faded out when the rest of the internet boom; Very disappointing, The tech can be used for a lot more then sharing britney spears albums! It can be could also be used for file mirrors, (aka wolfinstien off eDonkey = fast fuckin download), instant messaging, web hosting and its approaching a way to get scalable bandwidth for any internet application, soon you'll see.
-Jon
this is my sig.
Speaking of P2P and terrorism, here is something to think about:
A P2P network is MORE RESISTANT to terrorist attack, since there is NO CENTRAL POINT OF VULNERABILITY to attack.
Distributed systems are more secure against such attacks.
Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
Is anyone else getting tired of hearing the words "pirate" or "piracy" used when referring to file sharing??? Doesn't anyone know that piracy (when referring to music) means to copy and SELL. Got it? I'm not sure what the actual percentage is, but my guess would be that 99.9% of filesharers do NOT sell what they download for free. So if you feel you need to call it something (something that will make it sound bad and immoral) then call it "IP infringment".
You're right it already runs on the only OS that matters. :)
The only operating system that matters is the one that has drivers for your hardware. Unfortunately, for most users who bought home computers, that's Windows 9x. Does BeOS work with winmodems or winsoundcards?
Will I retire or break 10K?
I'm basically describing a model where when a source, be it a group or an individual, publishes something, it is in the network forever. Regardless of what happens to that source, tens of thousands of other machines will always be carrying that forbidden data. It couldn't be stopped. Sure we'd gather up massive amounts of garbage and quickly antiquated material, but every piece of knowledge out there is bound to be of value to at least somebody
Isn't that FreeNET?
I'm involved in a project developing an open source Direct Connect client in Java. The project has just started and is hosted by Sourceforge. Check it out:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/javadc/
Direct Connect is a popular P2P file sharing program for Windows. There is also a free program that let's anyone start their own file sharing hub. Check out www.neo-modus.com for more info.
By using random ports. Try edonk.
An Education is the Font of All Liberty
that does not stop it from being the coolest OS around but it ain't UNIX officially.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
then you are truly anonymous, no valid IP to trace back to, JAP destroys that within an hour.
I suppose it a court order was delivered to JAP then they might have some records but they claim to purge everything on a regular basis.
That is what the FreeNet project is all about.
[This line added to avoid the stupid "Lameness" filter.]
the last thing we (the university of delaware) need is a more efficient file-sharing application. it's literally brought our t3 speeds to slower than a 14.4 modem. file sharing is cool until it takes 10 minutes to load a web page. :(
Just in case, I run the linux AG client in chroot jail.
Stop worrying about the risks of nuclear power and start worrying about the risks of not using nuclear power.
Isn't this the guy who talks to dead people on the Sci-Fi channel? That show Crossing Over? I can't imagine Crossing Over will do a show on John Edwards talking to firey salmon. I also can't imagine how this relates to file sharing, unless John Edwards is sharing files to the dead. If he is, I bet he uses BearShare.
Gods.. i shouldn't be honoring this with a reply, but it's gotten a +1 insightful, and if something THIS incoherent gets a +1..
Let us reiterate: the post that the anonymous coward from #2318936 was responding to basically stated that napster-style P2P file-trading software for the macintosh is in a pathetically sorry state right now. This is accurate.
Linux users make fun of Windows users because windows is an inferior computing platform. Yet praise the Apple platform for it relative stupidity(ease of use).
What the hell? First, if you are going to make a statement like this, you need to back it up with some sort of evidence, proof, or logical arguments. Secondly, this statement has absolutely nothing to do with the post you're replying to, and probably is not germane to the current Slashdot thread. Unless you're trying to say "The application support for the macintosh platform in the area of massively searchable P2P filesharing applications is unacceptably poor, therefore (macintoshes are dumbed down and nonfunctional, linux users like macintoshes, and linux users like macintoshes because they are dumbed down and nonfunctional)".. which doesn't seem to make sense.
Also, if you want software that is half decent use Windows, most of the good software can only be found there. Well, stuff that doesn't crash: see windows 2000(In 6 month's has not crashed on me once.)
This bit is just wierd. The fact that Windows 2000 has protected memory and is relatively stable has nothing at all to do with the quality of the applications available for Windows. Yes, uptimes of a number of months are not too unusual for Windows 2000. Neither are they for linux or Mac OS X, both of which are (like W2K) higher-level operating systems with protected memory and stable underpinnings. Mac OS X, in these early versions, may crash a bit more often than W2K; this is, however, due to bugs in the OS (which is a 1.0 release, and unpolished), not due to the applications. We have no reason because of these things to think that the windows applications are of higher quality than linux or mac os applications.
It seems that this post can be boiled down to "somebody mentioned macs, and i don't like macs". The only real thing in this post is a single unsupported one-line opinion: "most of the good software is windows-only". OK, so that's at least *something*, but it's still hardly "insightful".
I think its actually freenetPROJECT.org
- PS. This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R where eliminated.
Sorry, I mean people whose mom's bought them that new dell or other such computer off of a commercial or the such.
Three of my friends just bought computers with at least 1.4MHZ and one has 1GB of DDR ram! He doesn't even know what Ram is...
...imagine me trying to get him to install linux on his OTHER FREE hard drive....
These people are lame, and we need a way to use them.... nuff said.
Get your Unix fortune now!
Locating the mirrors would be done by not only the client but other servers.
When my client logs in, and I tell it to relay web sites (instead of hosting filez etc) it connects to others who do the same. If someone in my neighborhood logs on to 'browse' they will find me. The term mirror isn't what I want to use, I'd rather use relay.
Major hubs that cache the content then trickle the content down to others. If you can't get on CNN then get on the network, and type the web page. Your client finds a relay and you get the page.
All this is done by other relays cacheing pages that are frequently used/viewed. If I don't have the content someone is looking for my client can direct them to another relay. [or even get the page for the user]
With the stats involved a smarter network of relays is set up - allowing regional access to sites instead of going straight to the page.
Set aside so many MB of space that can be used to relay and voila!
People with always-on connections at home like cable or DSL can use thier bandwidth for good and not evil after all.
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File Sharing? A more appropriate description would be "File Stealing."
Why don't you just take a gun into your local music store and hold the place up while you steal as many CDs as you like. It would be the same as what you're doing except you wouldn't have to wait for the downloads to finish.
In order to participate, you install the package on your machine and allow to to cache other people's stuff along with your own. If your stuff gets popular, it'll get cached by other servers. There are a few issues, like how do users find your content, how does it get distributed, and how do you avoid having a central point of failure.
There are answers to most of these questions. None of them are particularly original... They borrow from Freenet, Gnutella, Akamai. But I've never any Open Source packages that perform this particular function (I suppose Freenet could, but doesn't update quickly enough.) Am I missing one?
Imagine for a moment if ISPs left NO ports open at all, incoming. For practical purposes, they'd probably have to keep IDENT and FTP-DATA open, but maybe not. IDENT conversations are very small, so a stateful filter could probably chop those to a very short exchange. Active ftp may not be going away, but it's getting less common as an exclusive means. I don't let active ftp (ftp-data incoming) through my firewall, and have seldom missed it. Nearly everyone accomodates passive ftp.
So with the exception of clipped IDENT conversations, cutting off all incoming SYN packets seems feasible, unfortunately.
I guess we're left encapsulating TCP over UDP, or something else silly and inefficient like that.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
Mac users are so funny! And stupid!
KaZaA works almost flawless with Wine. Just don't click the system tray