I wish everyone working on porting *nix to useless platforms like Dreamcasts, Palm, and Refrigerators would put their efforts toward making *nix easier to use for non technical types.
If the effort expended on useless ports that no one will ever use could be combined, Linux could have the ease of use of MacOS by now.
Mandrake and a few other distros are (for the most part) ready for windows converts
Mandrake and others will be "ready" when they ship as the default OS on the Compaq, HP, or eMachine an end user buys at Price Club or CompUSA. Until then Linux will always remain on the fringes for the end user.
And a large amount of progress will have to have been made by the time an OEM ships with Linux.
I just read yesterday (sorry, no link, maybe it was at netscape.com?) that the U.S. plane was on autopilot at the time of the incident and flying in a straight line, which dramatically changes the circumstances surrounding this incident.
Perhaps the US is resisting apologizing until the exact circumstances can be determined.
The issue is not that the applications don't exist. Almost every drawing/illustration/page layout program is multiplatform.
The problem occurs when you try to output to film. Each of the colors (cyan, yellow, magenta, black) gets output to seperate piece of film that looks like a photo negative. These are used to make metal (depending on the exact type of press) printing plates that get run on the press, one for each color.
It's an interesting process, check it out at your local print shop if you have a chance sometime. MUCH more complex than just hitting "print" on a desktop computer.
Virtually ALL (everyone single one I've ever dealt with) of the experts that do the computer-to-film process deal only with Macintosh Quark Express files. If you bring a PC file, the process consists of opening it on a Mac and praying the conversion works without destroying your images, fonts, or layout. Believe me, there is a reason film gets output from Macs - they process occurs much more reliably, which means cheaper, when Macs are used.
Well, I don't know about that. I'm probably more "computer nerd" than 98% of the population, and it's still too hard. I'm far more productive with Windows 2000 - that's not a slam, it's a fact.
After investing some time learning Mandrake, I was able to get Apache serving some pages, but I was never able to figure out how to acquire, compile, and install programs.
The multi-user concept is fine and necessary, but there needs to be an easy, single user, distro that you can install in idiot mode. I shouldn't have to research the refresh rate of a monitor in order to install a consumer OS.
Yeah, great idea! Instead of making more lists of free software no one can figure out how to use, they could pay programmers to actually PROGRAM software that a normal person can understand.
You make a "choice" to smoke, but I don't really get a choice NOT to smoke, do I? No, I have to breathe what you spew no matter what.
If most smokers had even a MINIMUM of courtesy when they decided where to smoke, everyone wouldn't be trying to take away your ability to smoke. See?
Smokers have brought the prohibitions and regulations on themselves. If you didn't smoke around people who didn't want to breathe smoke, no one would care!
I'd have to agree with that. I have a Dell Inspiron 3800 with an ATI chipset and it's horrible. Wait until the nvidia laptop chips come out if you want to game on a laptop. ATI has serious problem with never fixing long standing problems with their drivers.
The funny thing about this is, they seem to think that if consumers can't copy it, it won't end up on the internet.
But only ONE consumer needs to figure out how to copy it, and the MP3 will be everywhere.
Are they saying it will be unplayable on a computer cd rom drive?
Computer audio extraction from a cd doesn't have to happen in real time, right? If the "errors" on the disc affect the ripping process, the software can just be modified to compensate for those errors.
It will be on Napster the day after it's released.
Currently I use nhl.com to listen to the Real Audio broadcasts of out of town hockey games. (Free)
Radio is an advertising model, right? So why wouldn't they want as many people as possible listening?
I had hoped eventually I would be able to watch out of town hockey in streaming video free, now it looks like I may lose radio!
Previously I've toyed with the idea of having someone where the game is broadcast hook up the cable to a TV in card and broadcast it to (just me) using real video so I could watch. Anyone tried that?
Again, you miss my point.
It's not about fighting the evil empire. I'm just pointing out that there is money to be made, if you can fill that need. Does anyone want to fill that need?
Linux is nice cause it is easier to load and unload modules from the kernel without the reboot that is required in win 95/98/NT4
You guys don't get it! I'm a home user, why do I care about unloading modules? For that matter, what the @$#%@ is a module?
Granted, I am playing devil's advocate here, but really. My commment was not a slam against the mentioned company charging, but merely that if the "Linux industry" in general wants to make money, a market exists among home, casual users that would like to not use Windows. But they can't if you don't make it easier.
If I'm going to pay for Linux, they need to make it a hell of a lot better to get my $. I know everyone will flame me and mod me down, and that's okay.
Even Mandrake is not easy enough. Why doesn't my sound work? Why doesn't my printer work?
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If the effort expended on useless ports that no one will ever use could be combined, Linux could have the ease of use of MacOS by now.
Mandrake and others will be "ready" when they ship as the default OS on the Compaq, HP, or eMachine an end user buys at Price Club or CompUSA. Until then Linux will always remain on the fringes for the end user.
And a large amount of progress will have to have been made by the time an OEM ships with Linux.
I think the article meant to say "Windows Media Player will limit the quality of ripped mp3".
Great sig dude.
Indrema - the only video game system that requires you to know the refresh rate of your TV to install :)
Perhaps the US is resisting apologizing until the exact circumstances can be determined.
A great project would be to design a usable GUI for Linux. What an achievement that would be!
If the user interface is as bad as Linux, this thing has no chance.
The problem occurs when you try to output to film. Each of the colors (cyan, yellow, magenta, black) gets output to seperate piece of film that looks like a photo negative. These are used to make metal (depending on the exact type of press) printing plates that get run on the press, one for each color.
It's an interesting process, check it out at your local print shop if you have a chance sometime. MUCH more complex than just hitting "print" on a desktop computer.
Virtually ALL (everyone single one I've ever dealt with) of the experts that do the computer-to-film process deal only with Macintosh Quark Express files. If you bring a PC file, the process consists of opening it on a Mac and praying the conversion works without destroying your images, fonts, or layout. Believe me, there is a reason film gets output from Macs - they process occurs much more reliably, which means cheaper, when Macs are used.
You obviously don't work in the professional print production industry.
Granted, Windows 2000 gets better and better, but that's one arena Apple _still_ owns, after all this time.
I just want to make something clear - this is "-1", because it says the linux gui sucks. Whatever.
The Linux gui does suck. Have fun with your 'hobbyist' OS.
Anything from ATI basically sucks under W2k. Just be glad you don't have a Rage Pro card.
This is the Linux based video game box, right? Do you have to know the refresh rate of your TV in order to install it?
Well, I don't know about that. I'm probably more "computer nerd" than 98% of the population, and it's still too hard. I'm far more productive with Windows 2000 - that's not a slam, it's a fact.
After investing some time learning Mandrake, I was able to get Apache serving some pages, but I was never able to figure out how to acquire, compile, and install programs.
The multi-user concept is fine and necessary, but there needs to be an easy, single user, distro that you can install in idiot mode. I shouldn't have to research the refresh rate of a monitor in order to install a consumer OS.
Amazing!
I don't know what world you live in, but in mine, that's likely to get you a blank stare, rude comments, or an invitation to fuckoff. Not an option.
You make a "choice" to smoke, but I don't really get a choice NOT to smoke, do I? No, I have to breathe what you spew no matter what.
If most smokers had even a MINIMUM of courtesy when they decided where to smoke, everyone wouldn't be trying to take away your ability to smoke. See?
Smokers have brought the prohibitions and regulations on themselves. If you didn't smoke around people who didn't want to breathe smoke, no one would care!
I'd have to agree with that. I have a Dell Inspiron 3800 with an ATI chipset and it's horrible. Wait until the nvidia laptop chips come out if you want to game on a laptop. ATI has serious problem with never fixing long standing problems with their drivers.
How do you sleep at night?
The funny thing about this is, they seem to think that if consumers can't copy it, it won't end up on the internet. But only ONE consumer needs to figure out how to copy it, and the MP3 will be everywhere.
Are they saying it will be unplayable on a computer cd rom drive? Computer audio extraction from a cd doesn't have to happen in real time, right? If the "errors" on the disc affect the ripping process, the software can just be modified to compensate for those errors. It will be on Napster the day after it's released.
Currently I use nhl.com to listen to the Real Audio broadcasts of out of town hockey games. (Free) Radio is an advertising model, right? So why wouldn't they want as many people as possible listening? I had hoped eventually I would be able to watch out of town hockey in streaming video free, now it looks like I may lose radio! Previously I've toyed with the idea of having someone where the game is broadcast hook up the cable to a TV in card and broadcast it to (just me) using real video so I could watch. Anyone tried that?
Again, you miss my point. It's not about fighting the evil empire. I'm just pointing out that there is money to be made, if you can fill that need. Does anyone want to fill that need?
You guys don't get it! I'm a home user, why do I care about unloading modules? For that matter, what the @$#%@ is a module? Granted, I am playing devil's advocate here, but really. My commment was not a slam against the mentioned company charging, but merely that if the "Linux industry" in general wants to make money, a market exists among home, casual users that would like to not use Windows. But they can't if you don't make it easier.
If I'm going to pay for Linux, they need to make it a hell of a lot better to get my $. I know everyone will flame me and mod me down, and that's okay. Even Mandrake is not easy enough. Why doesn't my sound work? Why doesn't my printer work?