I'm not refer to biologists who study behaviour. I'm talking about the piss artists who woffle on about the battle between the ego and the superego, or the animus and the anima, or any other kind of fantasy, fairy land, make believe shite.
If you can't tell the difference between objective empirical research on behaviour and for all intents and purposes occultic ramblings about the nature of the soul, get a clue yourself. Hey, and at least I risk my own karma posting under my own name.
I had a professor who was hired and given tenure as a photography professor. He was a good, competent photographer and well qualified to teach same. He then decided he was going to teach something called "Visual Dynamics" which was his own pet discipline that he'd invented. The course was a requirement for graduation (otherwise NOBODY would have taken it) and literally consisted of the ravings of a French-Canadian of Greek origin who NEVER changed his clothes, banging away about God knows what.
"Ze meening huv life hiz to survive to reproduce before death." (What this has to do with visual perception I have no idea). "Zere is a deeference between zee masculeen way huv doing teengs hand the feminine way: zee masculeen way hiz to see ha problem, train to solve hit, and solve hit, hand zee feminine way heez to cry huntil someone else solves it for her." Needless to say, his ravings about visual perception and his grading of lab work was completely capricious and taught nobody anything at all. The only person who cared was some harridan TA grad student who wanted his job.
Trust me, the "Simone De Beauvoir Wimmins (sic) Studies Program" students tried to get him canned, but tenure wins out. So in essence, he never taught a single lick of what he was hired for the moment he was tenured.
RE: It appears to me that the liberal arts community has only been working hard on one thing: retraining everyone to look at degeneration, and to see progress.
They've been working hard on other things, too: making sure that their own political viewpoints (usually liberal ones) are rammed down people's throats, when they aren't actively basing their coursework on their own feelings and/or prejudices. My university actually abolished final exams one year so that the kiddies could suit up in their beaded hats and Guatemalan scarves and go riot.
Take any non-provable, metaphorical liberal art: ask any psychologist to find an ego, a superego, an anima, a shadow, etc. anywhere within the human brain, or any proof any of it actually exists. They can't - it's basically a pissing contest to see whose metaphor sells more books. That's why entire bodies of coursework are built around being forced to purchase the professor's own typewritten notes about his own pet theories, and the exam is 100% on how well you can parrot said theory and/or argue about the Gospel according to the Prof. That's if you can still find some whose entire body of work isn't about how victimised women/gays/insert ethnicity here are. (I'm not saying they haven't been - I'm saying I paid money for you to teach me semiotics, not lesbian propaganda).
RE: Actually liberal arts professors do shit like go to the middle of the desert where fundamentalists and bandits run wild and try to dig shit out of the hot dry sand. Then when they find something they use one of the several ancient languages they know to decipher what the shit says. Then they go back to the school and bust their ass writing a book on their findings.
THAT'S WHAT GRAD STUDENTS ARE FOR, DUMBASS. Any liberal arts professor who does real work is in serious danger of being shunned by the rest of the liberal arts faculty, because they might be expected to get off their asses and do something relevant, too.
Dude, I know a professor who at the time of me being at the uni had already spent, GET THIS, TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARS working on a TEN MINUTE SHORT FILM about MOOSE JAW. The pissant little Canadian town of relevance to noone.
RE: liberal arts includes many disciples. Economics, History, Political Science, etc, etc. Not "hurl crap at a canvas"
Oh, my GOD. You are naive and new to the Liberal arts world. Let me explain. Writing something that 20,000,000 grad students attempting to get Ph.D's in your subject haven't already considered and done would be time consuming, and work. But, if you can try and hawk some stock options out of some tech company (e.g. working on an interdisciplinary field relating history and historical context.... TO THE INTERNET. Consulting fees ka-ching!) in lieu of work, or try cross-pollinating (art as it pertains to political science, e.g. you throw paint at a canvas, some grad student writes a load of bollocks about how it epitomises all your pet theories, you publish, no work...) you get the salary and the tenure, with no actual effort.
RE: I could just as easily make fun of the CS deparatment at most colleges consiting mainly of smelly professors who can't teach and have no social skills.
Yeah, but without the university, they'd still find work. Please tell me, outside of having a job at McDonalds frying something, or being a tenured professor, where there's a legitimate job doing things like philosophy or Hegelian Dualism.
RE: But please, continue your ignorance and prejudice it does make you look oh so smart.
Dude, I'm a B.A. in Liberal Arts. And I'm summa cum laude, because I could sling the bullshit like the best of them. But I didn't want to spend the rest of my life regurgitating my professor's pet theories and neuroses verbatim until I finally was the one in fifteen million people applying for tenure who gets it, at which point I'd be the one skiving off doing actual work and teach my own pet theories and neuroses instead..... so I retrained in something practical.
Most of em are massive bullshit artists anyway. Give em tenure and they become workshy bullshit artists. Teaching gets shoved off to whatever grad student is currently being suckered by the mirage of a tenured professorship for herself as a reward for such gruntwork: as for research, enh, this is liberal arts, just paint a painting (hurl some paint at a canvas) instead or something and call it interdisciplinary arts or some such crap. Hold a party every now and then and enjoy the carnality of those who're away from home for the first time. Rinse, lather, repeat, buy new Tweed Jacket, red wine, reggae albums, Volvo SUV and whatever hip liberal gobshite is the flavour of the we(e/a)k.
The harpoon device WAS developed. Abandoned because of concerns of blood...... also the damn thing misfiring or firing at an angle and spearing the wearer.
3. Try and create a project with Anjuta, and build it
4. Write to developers, ask why a simple project with nothing added to it doesn't goddamn work
5. Get lame ass "I dunno" from development team
Dear God, if the simplest "build default project" screws the pooch, how do they expect anything else to work? I wonder if the Anjuta that this project is named after is like that - pretty but incapable of doing anything useful.
RE: I would object to that characterization. I've known quite a few people with an English or History background who had a far greater understanding of the potential of technology, and far more creativity in exploiting that potential, than many typical CS grads.
That comment is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. As someone who did a B.A rather than a B.Sc, and did so deliberately, I have to say that honestly, my semiotics courses have helped me a lot more than any data structures course. Any fool can look up how. What really adds value is being able to know why and/or what will happen as a result.
Based on past experiences with Mr. Allen massaging his ego with pet projects like this...
1) It will cost a whole pile of tax money - even if Seattle voters vote down the idea of paying for a stadium one of the world's richest men could afford to buy with change out of his couch, he'll find a way to ram the charge to the taxpayer nonetheless...
2) It will be a butt ugly monstrosity of a building that's an utter blight.
3) Ticket prices will be $40 or so
4) Noone will want to go at that price, even though it does carry all the latest gadgets and gewgaws from Microsoft to help "interactivity".
Technology makes money, makes great products, but there are always hangers on who want to make cash of trying to discuss the "liberal arts" side of whatever tech/science/knowledge is around...
If it isn't outright hangers-on like the Mondo 2000/Wired crowd, it's university types wanting to do very deep, meaningful important research into the feminist anthropological sociologic dichotomy media analysis semiotic historical perspective. And please can they hang around to glean some of the cool and some of the stock options?
Technology is what it is. People are who they are. The printing press did not "cause" the widespread use of pornography any more than it "caused" the widespread use of the Bible. All it did was make available the ability to reproduce large numbers of the same document without hiring a gang of monks who did their work very slowly and therefore made the process lengthy and expensive, period, full stop, end of sentence, and PEOPLE did the sociopolitical ethical considerational crap.
If some soul-patch wearing fruitcake in a beret starts trying to pitch to me the idea of him being a "cyber-ethicist" and maybe I'd like to hire him to determine whether or not deleting a piece of software isn't tantamount to murder of a silicon based life form he's gonna find my steel toe so far up his back passage it's gonna chip his teeth.
Liberal arts people are good for one thing. Serving me my goddamn coffee. And while you're jawing away my java is getting cold, Trotsky. Get a move on. There's customers waiting. Jesus.
...they've also figured out a way to make toast with a soldering iron.
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No matter what show you're watching with it, at random points suddenly they all start doing a song and dance number and the voices on the lead actors change to a screechy woman for the female lead and a velvety-slightly nasal tone for the male lead. After the dance number, the show resumes. And every romance scene has the camera cut to a shot of trees or something just before any two people kiss (or do anything more hardcore).
He never mentioned what hardware, what software he was running.
I would GLADLY build a home studio around Linux if I could figure out which distro, which sound card, and which EASY TO USE APPs to use to do the same kind of Cubase VST stuff I've previously done.
Some package from some obscure German FTP site with a command line interface that doesn't even compile doesn't rate as "easy to use".
If you're going to say how great your system is, please let some of us in on what it was you eventually used?
Maybe the reason for the complete absence of detail is he didn't want to go into the endless kernel recompiles, header file and package searches (no no no you need ALSA_dev_package_weirdo_tool_support.h, that's available from ftp.godknowswhere.com) the frustrating incompatibilities with the top-end hardware, the latencies, etc.
Much more rah-rah to say he installed Mandrake and suddenly he had no support costs.
Dude this was SOP when I couldn't find work a decade ago in Canada. If I had $1 every time someone said "go down to that Nortel and th'll give ya a $60,000 a year job right outa school!" I'd never need to work again.
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Where is this?
You'd have thought that after the first explosion, they'd rethink electrocautery.....
How does a broken leg prevent him from doing real work? He's an engineer, not a mountain climber or long distance runner.
There are engineers in WHEELCHAIRS who come up with more useful inventions than this.
The dude's question is valid. Why do this?
I didn't major in typing. Typos happen, get over it.
Well said, Max. We agree wholeheartedly :)
I'm not refer to biologists who study behaviour. I'm talking about the piss artists who woffle on about the battle between the ego and the superego, or the animus and the anima, or any other kind of fantasy, fairy land, make believe shite.
If you can't tell the difference between objective empirical research on behaviour and for all intents and purposes occultic ramblings about the nature of the soul, get a clue yourself. Hey, and at least I risk my own karma posting under my own name.
Tell me about it.
I had a professor who was hired and given tenure as a photography professor. He was a good, competent photographer and well qualified to teach same. He then decided he was going to teach something called "Visual Dynamics" which was his own pet discipline that he'd invented. The course was a requirement for graduation (otherwise NOBODY would have taken it) and literally consisted of the ravings of a French-Canadian of Greek origin who NEVER changed his clothes, banging away about God knows what.
"Ze meening huv life hiz to survive to reproduce before death." (What this has to do with visual perception I have no idea). "Zere is a deeference between zee masculeen way huv doing teengs hand the feminine way: zee masculeen way hiz to see ha problem, train to solve hit, and solve hit, hand zee feminine way heez to cry huntil someone else solves it for her." Needless to say, his ravings about visual perception and his grading of lab work was completely capricious and taught nobody anything at all. The only person who cared was some harridan TA grad student who wanted his job.
Trust me, the "Simone De Beauvoir Wimmins (sic) Studies Program" students tried to get him canned, but tenure wins out. So in essence, he never taught a single lick of what he was hired for the moment he was tenured.
RE: It appears to me that the liberal arts community has only been working hard on one thing: retraining everyone to look at degeneration, and to see progress.
They've been working hard on other things, too: making sure that their own political viewpoints (usually liberal ones) are rammed down people's throats, when they aren't actively basing their coursework on their own feelings and/or prejudices. My university actually abolished final exams one year so that the kiddies could suit up in their beaded hats and Guatemalan scarves and go riot.
Take any non-provable, metaphorical liberal art: ask any psychologist to find an ego, a superego, an anima, a shadow, etc. anywhere within the human brain, or any proof any of it actually exists. They can't - it's basically a pissing contest to see whose metaphor sells more books.
That's why entire bodies of coursework are built around being forced to purchase the professor's own typewritten notes about his own pet theories, and the exam is 100% on how well you can parrot said theory and/or argue about the Gospel according to the Prof.
That's if you can still find some whose entire body of work isn't about how victimised women/gays/insert ethnicity here are. (I'm not saying they haven't been - I'm saying I paid money for you to teach me semiotics, not lesbian propaganda).
Better than being a lamebrained liberal who couldn't do anything worthwhile if his life depended on it.
RE: Actually liberal arts professors do shit like go to the middle of the desert where fundamentalists and bandits run wild and try to dig shit out of the hot dry sand. Then when they find something they use one of the several ancient languages they know to decipher what the shit says. Then they go back to the school and bust their ass writing a book on their findings.
THAT'S WHAT GRAD STUDENTS ARE FOR, DUMBASS. Any liberal arts professor who does real work is in serious danger of being shunned by the rest of the liberal arts faculty, because they might be expected to get off their asses and do something relevant, too.
Dude, I know a professor who at the time of me being at the uni had already spent, GET THIS, TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARS working on a TEN MINUTE SHORT FILM about MOOSE JAW. The pissant little Canadian town of relevance to noone.
RE: How did this get modded up?
Because it was relevant, insightful, and amusing.
RE: liberal arts includes many disciples. Economics, History, Political Science, etc, etc. Not "hurl crap at a canvas"
Oh, my GOD. You are naive and new to the Liberal arts world. Let me explain. Writing something that 20,000,000 grad students attempting to get Ph.D's in your subject haven't already considered and done would be time consuming, and work. But, if you can try and hawk some stock options out of some tech company (e.g. working on an interdisciplinary field relating history and historical context.... TO THE INTERNET. Consulting fees ka-ching!) in lieu of work, or try cross-pollinating (art as it pertains to political science, e.g. you throw paint at a canvas, some grad student writes a load of bollocks about how it epitomises all your pet theories, you publish, no work...) you get the salary and the tenure, with no actual effort.
RE: I could just as easily make fun of the CS deparatment at most colleges consiting mainly of smelly professors who can't teach and have no social skills.
Yeah, but without the university, they'd still find work. Please tell me, outside of having a job at McDonalds frying something, or being a tenured professor, where there's a legitimate job doing things like philosophy or Hegelian Dualism.
RE: But please, continue your ignorance and prejudice it does make you look oh so smart.
Dude, I'm a B.A. in Liberal Arts. And I'm summa cum laude, because I could sling the bullshit like the best of them. But I didn't want to spend the rest of my life regurgitating my professor's pet theories and neuroses verbatim until I finally was the one in fifteen million people applying for tenure who gets it, at which point I'd be the one skiving off doing actual work and teach my own pet theories and neuroses instead..... so I retrained in something practical.
this is a LIBERAL ARTS professor critique....
Most of em are massive bullshit artists anyway. Give em tenure and they become workshy bullshit artists. Teaching gets shoved off to whatever grad student is currently being suckered by the mirage of a tenured professorship for herself as a reward for such gruntwork: as for research, enh, this is liberal arts, just paint a painting (hurl some paint at a canvas) instead or something and call it interdisciplinary arts or some such crap. Hold a party every now and then and enjoy the carnality of those who're away from home for the first time. Rinse, lather, repeat, buy new Tweed Jacket, red wine, reggae albums, Volvo SUV and whatever hip liberal gobshite is the flavour of the we(e/a)k.
The harpoon device WAS developed. Abandoned because of concerns of blood...... also the damn thing misfiring or firing at an angle and spearing the wearer.
Yeah right. I've never got Anjuta to work.
Here's a recipe for frustration:
1. Install Mandrake Linux
2. Install Anjuta
3. Try and create a project with Anjuta, and build it
4. Write to developers, ask why a simple project with nothing added to it doesn't goddamn work
5. Get lame ass "I dunno" from development team
Dear God, if the simplest "build default project" screws the pooch, how do they expect anything else to work? I wonder if the Anjuta that this project is named after is like that - pretty but incapable of doing anything useful.
RE: I would object to that characterization. I've known quite a few people with an English or History background who had a far greater understanding of the potential of technology, and far more creativity in exploiting that potential, than many typical CS grads.
That comment is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. As someone who did a B.A rather than a B.Sc, and did so deliberately, I have to say that honestly, my semiotics courses have helped me a lot more than any data structures course. Any fool can look up how. What really adds value is being able to know why and/or what will happen as a result.
the Sontaran empire is trying to catch up.....
Based on past experiences with Mr. Allen massaging his ego with pet projects like this...
1) It will cost a whole pile of tax money - even if Seattle voters vote down the idea of paying for a stadium one of the world's richest men could afford to buy with change out of his couch, he'll find a way to ram the charge to the taxpayer nonetheless...
2) It will be a butt ugly monstrosity of a building that's an utter blight.
3) Ticket prices will be $40 or so
4) Noone will want to go at that price, even though it does carry all the latest gadgets and gewgaws from Microsoft to help "interactivity".
Technology makes money, makes great products, but there are always hangers on who want to make cash of trying to discuss the "liberal arts" side of whatever tech/science/knowledge is around...
If it isn't outright hangers-on like the Mondo 2000/Wired crowd, it's university types wanting to do very deep, meaningful important research into the feminist anthropological sociologic dichotomy media analysis semiotic historical perspective. And please can they hang around to glean some of the cool and some of the stock options?
Technology is what it is. People are who they are. The printing press did not "cause" the widespread use of pornography any more than it "caused" the widespread use of the Bible. All it did was make available the ability to reproduce large numbers of the same document without hiring a gang of monks who did their work very slowly and therefore made the process lengthy and expensive, period, full stop, end of sentence, and PEOPLE did the sociopolitical ethical considerational crap.
If some soul-patch wearing fruitcake in a beret starts trying to pitch to me the idea of him being a "cyber-ethicist" and maybe I'd like to hire him to determine whether or not deleting a piece of software isn't tantamount to murder of a silicon based life form he's gonna find my steel toe so far up his back passage it's gonna chip his teeth.
Liberal arts people are good for one thing. Serving me my goddamn coffee. And while you're jawing away my java is getting cold, Trotsky. Get a move on. There's customers waiting. Jesus.
"A plawsma rifle, inna fowty wott range?"
"Just what you see here, pal"
...they've also figured out a way to make toast with a soldering iron.
No matter what show you're watching with it, at random points suddenly they all start doing a song and dance number and the voices on the lead actors change to a screechy woman for the female lead and a velvety-slightly nasal tone for the male lead. After the dance number, the show resumes. And every romance scene has the camera cut to a shot of trees or something just before any two people kiss (or do anything more hardcore).
He never mentioned what hardware, what software he was running.
I would GLADLY build a home studio around Linux if I could figure out which distro, which sound card, and which EASY TO USE APPs to use to do the same kind of Cubase VST stuff I've previously done.
Some package from some obscure German FTP site with a command line interface that doesn't even compile doesn't rate as "easy to use".
If you're going to say how great your system is, please let some of us in on what it was you eventually used?
Maybe the reason for the complete absence of detail is he didn't want to go into the endless kernel recompiles, header file and package searches (no no no you need ALSA_dev_package_weirdo_tool_support.h, that's available from ftp.godknowswhere.com) the frustrating incompatibilities with the top-end hardware, the latencies, etc.
Much more rah-rah to say he installed Mandrake and suddenly he had no support costs.
Dude this was SOP when I couldn't find work a decade ago in Canada. If I had $1 every time someone said "go down to that Nortel and th'll give ya a $60,000 a year job right outa school!" I'd never need to work again.
Who modded this asshole and his asshole comment to "funny?"
I think we should have three definitions, then.
Free as in beer = price of $0.00, no strings attached, copyright owned by original owner.
Free as in speech = price of $0.00, no strings attached, public domain.
"Free" = exactly what you'd expect. "Free" with $500 purchase, "Free" with only $9.99 "shipping and handling", "Free" with early termination fee, etc.