RE: XYZ will naturally tend to lower its prices (why? because to make more money, it has to sell more goods and the best way to sell more goods in this case is to lower prices).
No it won't. It'll give the CEO a fat raise. Prices come down? You jest. And by the way, it used to be a man could hold a decent job and raise a family. Now the wife has to work too. What do you suppose happens when both parents need to work two jobs to prevent creditors from taking everything, because strangely enough that McJob doesn't pay half as much as that good engineering job he paid a shitload of money to train for? How does XYZ sell more widgets to these people?
Because they don't like people like you. I once applied for a position at a Pakistani based company - they laughed in my face. We don't hire people like you. Family first, friends next, people from the mosque/community, third.
See what happened to England's mills once Indian companies took em over. There were two pricing structures, depending on the skin color of the person doing the buying.
Kelly Osbourne's a true-blue, down and dirty, grim and grimy rockstar, with talent and guts to boot. Her album's gonna be a huge hit - it's a minor masterpiece, not a tie-in to a flash-in-the-pan MTV comedy show. I mean, who can argue with the brilliance of lyrics like "blah blah, blah, blah blah blah blah blah."? It worked for the Dayglow Abortions!!!!
And, if I can get you to buy that one, Avril Lavigne is the quintessence of rootsy rock and roll too, as opposed to being a girl from Napanee tarted up for world consumption.
God Almighty. Ten years from now they'll be coming out with girly acts that make Kelly Osbourne look like Janis Joplin.
Why in the name of Thor's hammer Mjolnir was this modded up as funny, whereas every other "IN SOVIET RUSSIA" post gets modded down as Offtopic or Troll?
Your job could technically be done anywhere. Even the ten miles away from your home, thanks to the magic of the Internet. However, no, they won't let you work from home, even though you technically could....
HOWEVER
Given that your job could be done anywhere, they have no problem with sending it 3,000 miles away thanks to the magic of the Internet.
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RE: None of the Gracies has any problem with taking guys down, GETTING ON TOP and then punching OR arm barring them into submission.
That's funny, I've never seen a Gracie do anything remotely like that. They either 1) stand next to the person in a big hug until the other guy tires and the clock runs out or 2) go into the "bitch" position and wait for the other guy to make some kind of move, hoping he'll make a mistake.
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The evolution of a "martial arts master"
1) Gets ass kicked in the schoolyard.
2) Decides he needs "karate" or god help him, the most esoteric Chinese martial art out there.
3) Goes to tournaments, gets a honorary mention for his kata form
4) Makes mistake of thinking his secret fighting ultimate style will help him in a bar. Gets kicked around very bad.
5) Decides to take it out on students: Develops subtle psychosis where he psychs out his unwitting victims er students who pay for the privilege of being demonstration victims of a vicious throw into a wall or smacked hard in the xiphoid process with a punch (note that the student doesn't fight back for the purpose of the demonstration). Also, arranges for "drills" where he is pitted against a student in a very specific test of speed and skill which he's practiced far more, so he caroms his knuckles off the student's skull time after time, eventually intimidating and flinching the student and underlining his own bad-assness with his student population
6) Believes in his own godlike status. Takes on guy in bar who does NOT fight in the specific way drilled in class, and gets his ass kicked by SUPERIOR STRENGTH AND SPEED. Tries joint lock on guy whose arm WILL NOT BEND. Tries kick the guy sidesteps. Connects with "devastating fight ending super move" and guy strangely does not fall but instead grabs master's head and drives it very very hard into nearest bar obstacle (counter, post, etc)
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You'd start the kick but never connect it, because the real fighter would have his fist out the back of your skull in the same time you try your magic technique that wins all fights.
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RE: Van Damme isn't a boxer, he's a very competent martial artist (kickboxing and jeet kun do) with fantastic technique (unlike, say, Steven Segal, but that's another story). He has much more in common with our aforementioned Grandmaster than he does with Mike "Lend me your Ear" Tyson.
Yeah, and Van Damne got his ass kicked by Chuck Zito. I mean pounded up real good, by Chuck Zito. Chuck Zito did not get the gold belt and blue silk pajamas of Rainbow Flying Fish Monkey fist, he's a biker who's seen fights. When Van Damne said Chuck was lucky he slipped on some water, Zito called into the show Van Damne made this stupid statement on and offered a televised rematch. Van Damne couldn't backpedal fast enough. Gifted martial artist, sure. Fight worth a damn? No way.
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Possibly because the large 250+lb brother in law didn't start out intending on killing the little Japanese runt. If they'd met in a bar with the brother in law seeing red, it'd have been a different story.
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Don't make stupid assumptions, I actually did study martial arts for a few years.
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Nope!
I've seen a lot of black belts rendered VERY un-cocky by larger, untrained fighters. Problem is, you see, they didn't throw the punch exactly the way they did it in class, you know, at about three miles an hour, in a huge arc, with no intent for it to land. Instead, the guy jabbed, or feinted. And then proceeded to hand the guy his own ass.
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RE: Having seen something similar in action, I'd bet on the exalted Grandmaster. Katas are practiced in slow motion to build technique and strength. Yes, strength. Try doing a head-high front kick at 1/20 the speed and see if you can keep your leg extended at head-height for more than a fraction of a second.
Yes, and Jean Claude Van Damne is a ballet dancer and their routines include not only that but doing situps one vertebra at a time. However, up against Chuck Zito, he was rapidly pounded into bleeding oblivion.
RE: And if you believe that technique is unimportant compared to strength, might I invite you to visit the Skip Barber racing school and take the Econoline Van tour, where the instructor races one of the beginner students. The instructor gets an Econoline van, and the student is in a Corvette. I'll give you three guesses as to who wins, and the first two don't count.
And I would invite you to see a bantamweight take on a superheavyweight, in any pugilistic sport. Technique wins if the people are equal - but the world's greatest karate kid is one punch away from being oblivionated by a large adult.
RE: It's the same thing in combat. Proper technique and speed will slaughter brute force any day of the week.
Yeah, yeah. Keep believing that. Only, one of these days you're going to try your flowery dragon rainbow monkey scissor kick against a no-necked behemoth, and you're going to end up in traction.
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I'm neither. But I've seen a lot of beatings go down, and I've personally thrown a couple of TKD guys on their backs in my time.
Anyone who thinks their flying pyjama dance lesson will help them against someone larger and scarier is living in a fantasy world. EVERY pugilistic event has weight classes. Wonder why? Wouldn't the bantamweight with superior technique outclass the 300lb behemoth? No, the behemoth would pound the bantamweight into a red smear.
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No, the tai chi master would stand there, while wood flute music started playing out of nowhere, and then he'd do some mystical thing with his hand and the other guy would just go flying for no reason. Dude, I'm talking about reality, not "Wu Tang Theater present Chop Sockey Fighty flying people movie OK!"
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RE: First off you don't want to pit a boxer against a Kung Fu-like martial arts..
Correct, because the boxer would kick his ass.
RE: the boxer has the severe disadvantage that he can't kick or hit below the belt..
Most idiots who try those fancy kicks in biker bars end up smack face down in a pile of cigarette butts and broken glass on the wrong end of a beatdown.
RE: he'll lose almost by default at this point since the martial artist can pin him, grapple him, kick him in the legs, apply pressure points.. and you know, all that good stuff.
And the boxer can chew his ears off.
RE: Also, what you see at "4 mph" isn't how its really done, the quickness of Tai Chi masters will suprise you when applied (and can be almost deadly).
So deadly in fact, that they NEVER do so. Or could it possibly be that they don't want to ruin the illusion that Tai Chi is for nothing more than geeks in silk pyjamas and women on the Oxygen network?
RE: A more fitting match would be a to throw in a grappler (like a wrestler or brazillian jujitsu guy), then you just get the Ultimate Fighting Championships.. which turn out rather bland since both fighters just spend the entire time on the ground and in the bitch position..
Because the Gracies ensure that the fight's rigged. The floor is padded, so punchers and kickers lose a lot of their power. Add to that no biting is allowed, no fishhooking, no tearing, no eyeball gouging, you know, the kind of thing that'd happen in a real fight and make Mr. Gracie's "bitch position" look VERY VERY VERY stupid and suicidal like it is. It's one thing to be in a padded floor with rules and a referee and fifty of your brothers standing around, and another to be in a real fight.
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Yeah, I have. It looks like two spastics flailing at each other.
Ever notice that "blocks the punch and forces the arm of the opponent upwards" isn't ever used in boxing? Because it doesn't work, except when some decrepit Chinese guy is showing you in slow motion, and the other guy is making NO attempt to connect with the punch.
I'd like to see one of these "exalted Grandmaster of Flowers" types take on Mike Tyson. It'd be a real quick fight. "Ok, now to execute har flung kip in quick motioTyson lunges inPUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH SMACK 1....2....3....4....5....6....7....8....9...10!!!! ! KO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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RE: XYZ will naturally tend to lower its prices (why? because to make more money, it has to sell more goods and the best way to sell more goods in this case is to lower prices).
No it won't. It'll give the CEO a fat raise. Prices come down? You jest. And by the way, it used to be a man could hold a decent job and raise a family. Now the wife has to work too. What do you suppose happens when both parents need to work two jobs to prevent creditors from taking everything, because strangely enough that McJob doesn't pay half as much as that good engineering job he paid a shitload of money to train for? How does XYZ sell more widgets to these people?
Because they don't like people like you. I once applied for a position at a Pakistani based company - they laughed in my face. We don't hire people like you. Family first, friends next, people from the mosque/community, third.
See what happened to England's mills once Indian companies took em over. There were two pricing structures, depending on the skin color of the person doing the buying.
Hear Hear. BofA isn't getting a dime out of me. I've printed that article, and I am doing absolutely NO business with any of those companies.
Where are the decent jobs that pay enough to live on?
HEY!
Shut up!
Kelly Osbourne's a true-blue, down and dirty, grim and grimy rockstar, with talent and guts to boot. Her album's gonna be a huge hit - it's a minor masterpiece, not a tie-in to a flash-in-the-pan MTV comedy show. I mean, who can argue with the brilliance of lyrics like "blah blah, blah, blah blah blah blah blah."? It worked for the Dayglow Abortions!!!!
And, if I can get you to buy that one, Avril Lavigne is the quintessence of rootsy rock and roll too, as opposed to being a girl from Napanee tarted up for world consumption.
God Almighty. Ten years from now they'll be coming out with girly acts that make Kelly Osbourne look like Janis Joplin.
Why in the name of Thor's hammer Mjolnir was this modded up as funny, whereas every other "IN SOVIET RUSSIA" post gets modded down as Offtopic or Troll?
Now WE will be putting third world laborers out of work! Not the other way around for a change!
Unless of course this thing gives off tons of CO2 and the USA signs on to Kyoto, leaving manufacturers no choice but to relocate overseas
I have to say that your sig rocks. I listen to that MP3 on a regular basis.
Good one, AC. I have too much karma, anyway.
Oh, damn it.
The ONE time I play into this silly joke, I forget to post AC. CURSES
The Japan Prize wins YOU!
Your job could technically be done anywhere. Even the ten miles away from your home, thanks to the magic of the Internet. However, no, they won't let you work from home, even though you technically could....
HOWEVER
Given that your job could be done anywhere, they have no problem with sending it 3,000 miles away thanks to the magic of the Internet.
RE: None of the Gracies has any problem with taking guys down, GETTING ON TOP and then punching OR arm barring them into submission.
That's funny, I've never seen a Gracie do anything remotely like that. They either 1) stand next to the person in a big hug until the other guy tires and the clock runs out or 2) go into the "bitch" position and wait for the other guy to make some kind of move, hoping he'll make a mistake.
The evolution of a "martial arts master"
1) Gets ass kicked in the schoolyard.
2) Decides he needs "karate" or god help him, the most esoteric Chinese martial art out there.
3) Goes to tournaments, gets a honorary mention for his kata form
4) Makes mistake of thinking his secret fighting ultimate style will help him in a bar. Gets kicked around very bad.
5) Decides to take it out on students: Develops subtle psychosis where he psychs out his unwitting victims er students who pay for the privilege of being demonstration victims of a vicious throw into a wall or smacked hard in the xiphoid process with a punch (note that the student doesn't fight back for the purpose of the demonstration). Also, arranges for "drills" where he is pitted against a student in a very specific test of speed and skill which he's practiced far more, so he caroms his knuckles off the student's skull time after time, eventually intimidating and flinching the student and underlining his own bad-assness with his student population
6) Believes in his own godlike status. Takes on guy in bar who does NOT fight in the specific way drilled in class, and gets his ass kicked by SUPERIOR STRENGTH AND SPEED. Tries joint lock on guy whose arm WILL NOT BEND. Tries kick the guy sidesteps. Connects with "devastating fight ending super move" and guy strangely does not fall but instead grabs master's head and drives it very very hard into nearest bar obstacle (counter, post, etc)
You'd start the kick but never connect it, because the real fighter would have his fist out the back of your skull in the same time you try your magic technique that wins all fights.
RE: Van Damme isn't a boxer, he's a very competent martial artist (kickboxing and jeet kun do) with fantastic technique (unlike, say, Steven Segal, but that's another story). He has much more in common with our aforementioned Grandmaster than he does with Mike "Lend me your Ear" Tyson.
Yeah, and Van Damne got his ass kicked by Chuck Zito. I mean pounded up real good, by Chuck Zito. Chuck Zito did not get the gold belt and blue silk pajamas of Rainbow Flying Fish Monkey fist, he's a biker who's seen fights. When Van Damne said Chuck was lucky he slipped on some water, Zito called into the show Van Damne made this stupid statement on and offered a televised rematch. Van Damne couldn't backpedal fast enough. Gifted martial artist, sure. Fight worth a damn? No way.
Possibly because the large 250+lb brother in law didn't start out intending on killing the little Japanese runt. If they'd met in a bar with the brother in law seeing red, it'd have been a different story.
Don't make stupid assumptions, I actually did study martial arts for a few years.
Nope!
I've seen a lot of black belts rendered VERY un-cocky by larger, untrained fighters. Problem is, you see, they didn't throw the punch exactly the way they did it in class, you know, at about three miles an hour, in a huge arc, with no intent for it to land. Instead, the guy jabbed, or feinted. And then proceeded to hand the guy his own ass.
RE: Having seen something similar in action, I'd bet on the exalted Grandmaster. Katas are practiced in slow motion to build technique and strength. Yes, strength. Try doing a head-high front kick at 1/20 the speed and see if you can keep your leg extended at head-height for more than a fraction of a second.
Yes, and Jean Claude Van Damne is a ballet dancer and their routines include not only that but doing situps one vertebra at a time. However, up against Chuck Zito, he was rapidly pounded into bleeding oblivion.
RE: And if you believe that technique is unimportant compared to strength, might I invite you to visit the Skip Barber racing school and take the Econoline Van tour, where the instructor races one of the beginner students. The instructor gets an Econoline van, and the student is in a Corvette. I'll give you three guesses as to who wins, and the first two don't count.
And I would invite you to see a bantamweight take on a superheavyweight, in any pugilistic sport. Technique wins if the people are equal - but the world's greatest karate kid is one punch away from being oblivionated by a large adult.
RE: It's the same thing in combat. Proper technique and speed will slaughter brute force any day of the week.
Yeah, yeah. Keep believing that. Only, one of these days you're going to try your flowery dragon rainbow monkey scissor kick against a no-necked behemoth, and you're going to end up in traction.
I'm neither. But I've seen a lot of beatings go down, and I've personally thrown a couple of TKD guys on their backs in my time.
Anyone who thinks their flying pyjama dance lesson will help them against someone larger and scarier is living in a fantasy world. EVERY pugilistic event has weight classes. Wonder why? Wouldn't the bantamweight with superior technique outclass the 300lb behemoth? No, the behemoth would pound the bantamweight into a red smear.
No, the tai chi master would stand there, while wood flute music started playing out of nowhere, and then he'd do some mystical thing with his hand and the other guy would just go flying for no reason. Dude, I'm talking about reality, not "Wu Tang Theater present Chop Sockey Fighty flying people movie OK!"
RE: First off you don't want to pit a boxer against a Kung Fu-like martial arts..
Correct, because the boxer would kick his ass.
RE: the boxer has the severe disadvantage that he can't kick or hit below the belt..
Most idiots who try those fancy kicks in biker bars end up smack face down in a pile of cigarette butts and broken glass on the wrong end of a beatdown.
RE: he'll lose almost by default at this point since the martial artist can pin him, grapple him, kick him in the legs, apply pressure points.. and you know, all that good stuff.
And the boxer can chew his ears off.
RE: Also, what you see at "4 mph" isn't how its really done, the quickness of Tai Chi masters will suprise you when applied (and can be almost deadly).
So deadly in fact, that they NEVER do so. Or could it possibly be that they don't want to ruin the illusion that Tai Chi is for nothing more than geeks in silk pyjamas and women on the Oxygen network?
RE: A more fitting match would be a to throw in a grappler (like a wrestler or brazillian jujitsu guy), then you just get the Ultimate Fighting Championships.. which turn out rather bland since both fighters just spend the entire time on the ground and in the bitch position..
Because the Gracies ensure that the fight's rigged. The floor is padded, so punchers and kickers lose a lot of their power. Add to that no biting is allowed, no fishhooking, no tearing, no eyeball gouging, you know, the kind of thing that'd happen in a real fight and make Mr. Gracie's "bitch position" look VERY VERY VERY stupid and suicidal like it is. It's one thing to be in a padded floor with rules and a referee and fifty of your brothers standing around, and another to be in a real fight.
Yeah, I have. It looks like two spastics flailing at each other.
! ! KO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Ever notice that "blocks the punch and forces the arm of the opponent upwards" isn't ever used in boxing? Because it doesn't work, except when some decrepit Chinese guy is showing you in slow motion, and the other guy is making NO attempt to connect with the punch.
I'd like to see one of these "exalted Grandmaster of Flowers" types take on Mike Tyson. It'd be a real quick fight. "Ok, now to execute har flung kip in quick motioTyson lunges inPUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH SMACK 1....2....3....4....5....6....7....8....9...10!!!