I was afraid they had changed their name again. I'll be happy if they can just keep the same name for the 1.x series. I have a feeling that they will rename it at 1.0 and then again at 2.0.
And as far as reducing corruption with things other than buildings...you can in Civ3 Conquests.
I'm not buying an expansion pack for things that should have been included in the orginial game. I know that I've made a lot of poor game choices. My policy now is to just by the games when they finally drop to $20 rather than when they are $40-$50. It's not a perfect stragety, but I'm not mad at myself for blowing $50 for a product that I don't use.
You bastard--you ran over my cat! Open you damn eyes when you drive!
What's your cat doing on the interstate? I'm a passenger on the interstate. My wife does the driving. I get to snooze, or tell the kids to be quiet, or sing very badly to keep my wife awake.
What don't you always travel the interstate with some one else?
I know some seemless intergrated security is better than having it tacked on afterward. I've always felt that if folks trusted a default security layer to be perfect, they will get burned when the defaul layer is broken. You should always have application encryption of important data. You shouldn't just trust that your pipe will be encrypted. Sometimes those pipes get used by unauthorized third parties that's when having everything else encrypted comes in handy. I'm just afraid folks will switch to the 802.11i and not bother to encrypt any of their data.
While I rattle on about how stupid we've become, why not just sedate all plane passengers with enough to keep them out cold for the duration of the flight? you fall asleep in the terminal and wake up at your destination?
Actually, this would be great for the airlines. They could fit alot more people on the plane that way! I remember a lot of road trips were like this too. I'd go to sleep about 10 mins. after traveling on interstate then just wake up 4 hours later at where ever we were going. Traveling is so much faster that way.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri fits all of those requirements... sure, it is older than Civ 3, but in my opinion it is vastly superior.
Yeah, I have both, and I like SMAC a lot better than Civ3 too. Its just frustrating that I was expecting Civ3 to be well actually better than SMAC. (How hard would it have been for them to use the SMAC engine for CIV3?) I'd expect Civ4 to be better still. I'm not holding my breath.
I also MOO3. After being burnt on both the MOO and the CIV games, I haven't bought any new game of that catagory.
Drop unfun legacy (pollution, rioting, maintenance, corruption/waste)
Each one of these wasn't that bad. The problem is they didn't give you any really good pollution cleanup or reduction tech. What 2 buildings will magically fix all our pollution needs? Nope. They needed a much wider tech tree that allowed you to discover/invent 5-10 buildings that would cut your pollution to near zero. Rioting was bad. The bad thing about it was that it stopped production of what ever you were building. Of course if it didn't do that, no one would care. I guess it would be nicer if they had 3-4 rioting levels. Instead of just stopping production, they could have protests that would extend the production time alittle. Other than rearrange people you the only option you was to build religious institutions, and some entertaiment centers. I guess having "riot prevenation" units would help. The problem with how they have traditionally done it though is that a military unit can't really be moved out of a city in a democracy with out a percentage being unhappy. There weren't really that may options other than over build troops or buildup temples and such.
Maintenance come on everything built needs maintenance or it degrades and becomes useless! Corruption/waste this is I agree is a PITA. Other than a court house and the forbiden palace you really didn't have any corruption reducing buildings or units. The same goes for waste.
Each of this could be fixed by having several special units that help reduce the effect. Think maybe a actual Jester unit to reduce unhappiness, or a Judge or Court offical to reduce corruption rather than just the buildings.
If something SHOULD be a Right, but its not in the Constitution, its not a Right.
Actually the Bill of Rights says you have a lot of unlisted Rights that they thought were obvious that the Federal government couldn't just take away. (The Federal Founders let the States take those Rights away.) With the way things are enforced and how we've bent our laws and most of the Constitution, it now means that that the only Rights that you have are those spelled on in the Bill of Rights.
The argument of the Supreme Court is that your name doesn't incriminate you unless there are extenuating circumstances so asking you to identify yourself doesn't violate your 5th ammendment rights.
It does if its a political thing. You know John Smith my just get a speeding ticket, but Political Figure Jr. may get several other charges tacked on if the officer dislikes the Political Figure's family.
but I'd rather be wrongly arrested than voluntarily be added to more databases.
As I understand it, they aren't adding any one that they photo to a database. They are checking the database for known people that they are after. I know alot of family members that have the same opinion as you. They'd also rather be arrested than have their photo taken by family members for the family photo. I'd be against storage of this data. The only time that I'd want to have storage of the data is if some one was arrested from it. It the photo taken by the officer and the photos that it matched should be flaged so the defendent's lawyer can get into action. To you're question about police photoing citizens, the obvious thought is that they video traffic stops. Remember the city has the right to video tape the officer while he is on duty. If you get caught on the city's video while he is patroling, he didn't do anything, it was just an automated system recording everything that he passed. The thing is almost all police supervisors wouldn't care about those day to day rides around town. The supervisors only care about when people are arrested (the citizen may complain) or there are complaints about the officer.
Here is an idea that will scare you. Imagine if Wal-mart, Target, Sears or any other large department store you may visit has their interal video survillance hooked up to this system (or maybe a privately owned database just for companies of shop lifters) and was scanning all customers. You would never know unless a police officer arrested you. The police officer could be called by the company about a "possible" felon in the store that they'd like the police to remove. Some police agency generally would try to look good to the store and general public. They would if not busy send some one to check it out. If the store already had who they had printed out with all their info. The police would call dispatch to verify the info. Then follow store security to the person.
This means what I think it does. We need to convert away from AC to DC power! Companies would save billions because almost all our devices would be simplier to design and build. As I understand it, it is alot simpler to convert DC to DC than AC to DC or DC to AC.
Here is the question. What applications require AC and would be use more power than DC?
Sheriff Everett Rice on Wednesday said his deputies are not being instructed to search for criminals and that the photos would be taken only if there was "cause to arrest."
If they arrest you, they already take your picture. If you appear on a wanted poster and are seen, you would hopefully at a min. be questioned if seen. If recongized, you'd be arrested and booked. During the booking process, guess what. Your picture is taken.
It would be very helpful if they had instant access to your driver lic. picture. Usually, they have to wait around for 15-20 min. while dispatch relays the request to records about basic DL info and if you are wanted for something. This system doesn't even recommend scanning everyone that passes it. I would. This program only wants to scan those that the police are have cause to arrest any way! Wouldn't you rather your picture be taken than arrested?
how long until we actually have laws that say people who mindlessly use tools without using their heads do jailtime equivalent to the judicial error they cause? Never. Incompetence is not and will hopefully never be against the law. If incompetence kills someone, it in and of itself will not be what gets an individual or group of individuals into trouble. It's the death or injury to some one that caused the trouble not the incompetence.
Tools like this are actually a good thing! Do you know how many thousands of people are wanted or have a warrant out on them? If you have a warrant, you can be arrested. I doubt any police officer could mentally keep up with any but the most important felony warrants in their area. Police have always been allowed to look at citizens and compare who they come across with wanted/missing posters! This tool only makes that process more efficient. Usually local police don't care about other agency warrants if they aren't a felony. Do you as a citizen want some one that has a felony warrant walking around? I'd think not.
I'd say that they will most likely be mixed in with the real DVD's. The consumers buying them won't even notice a difference. To really make me what to pick one up, it would have to be under $3. I'd bet that they price them at $6-$10 and stick them right by the real DVDs or by the checkout.
Milk will spoil regardless. This is more like buying a car with device it in that automatically disables it from starting after 3000 miles forcing you to buy another one.
This is going to be the most untintelligible movie ever. No doubt. No question. Nobody's going to know what the hell is going on in the movie, especially not the cast.
Have you ever actually read a Phillip Dick book? That's just how most of his books go. Say your main character gets knocked out during a chase scene. You'd expect that he is captured by his enemies, or escapes and is running from his enemies, or his enemy just escaped from him. In a Dick book, that character is just as likely to wake up, lose at a VR game, or have been in a mental state experimenting with different realities. Oh, he doesn't give you or the character any sense of which reality is the real one either. Was that chase scene real, or was it just a very real VR game? Is this life real or is it a simulation? His books are really confusing.
All you need to do is take the thing back the next day and demand a refund.
Say that when you tried to play it the DVD was already dead. How can they prove the air seal hadn't failed already or the disk was faulty due to a manufacturing defect.
No, you should return it and state that you expect products that you buy from them work for more than 8 hours. Demand a full refund or exchange. IF exchangd, make sure it works every 8 hours. Taking back an entire stack of defective dvds will make the stores never buy them again while that manager is there.
Even worse, US government organizations, like NASA, are not allowed to purchase a seat for their astronauts on Soyuz, and i doubt that Shenzou seats are for sale at the moment.
That wouldn't be fair to all those rich guys trying to buy tickets if NASA was allowed to outbid them!
Ok. He wants a real world metaphor. Try a cross between a landfill site (one for a city of several million), a library of congress, and a recycling center.
That's the mess of "my documents." I could only hope that some could invent a "recycling center" that would scan my documents (the landfill), put intelligent metadata in there, and place it in the proper folder place in my personnal "library of congress."
On the other hand, if they can get it to be as robust and enough mem like thumb drives, they could really take off.
I like thumb drives. I read the blurb and thought so instead of a thumb drive, some one has put the flash mem in pen and some wireless transmission like bluetooth to do the transferring and basicly doing a copy and paste onto an external storage device. Big whoopie.
I'm sorry Martin O'Malley, but there are many other ways that you can prevent crime and terrorism than by setting up a 24-hour surveillance network in the city. How about increasing a police force in the city so that a presence is seen? Wouldn't residents feel a bit more comfortable having an actual person than a camera?
You could hire more police officers and increase the workforce. But, instead you are going to pay retired police officers and college kids to sit on their ass and wait for somethign to happen. Plain stupid.
Do you know how much it costs to properly train and keep current a police officer? I want all those current officers being dispatched to emergencies. I don't want officers sitting at HQ watching cameras. That is a community watch job.
Retired police officers and college kids will work for cheap. The retired police officers have been through all that police training and have had it drilled into their heads what rights the public has. I remember being a computer lab monitor in college and some friend were security guards. They'd take their books and study all night and get up and walk around once an hour or so. As far as budgetting goes, I think this would be a great min. wage job for junior students. It would be nice and safe. They wouldn't prevent crime, but they could detect it and call dispatch and have police there faster. I also assume that these cameras would be recorded so that they could be used in court cases. It would be a good thing to make high school students think they are doing their civic duty. I just got a new idea. They only need to pay a HS teacher as part of a class. It would be the class's job to report and record all the crime in the monitored area that way you get 30 student's labor for free, the students feeling of doing civic good, and the teacher paid a slight bonus.
But what happens when most of the citizens in downtown baltimore have shiny new closed circuit video cameras in their house they liberated from poles on the street?
That's why you have to have active RFID in these things! I guess you could also just make them broad cast out wirelessly. Forget having 1984 where everyone has those mirror/TV/videophones that are everywhere, we could make these things easy to steal... Then we could send Mr. Policeman with video evidence and tracking information directly to the criminals, or Mr. Policeman may just watch the "stolen" cameras in the hope of them showing more crime than just a stolen video camera.
Sorry, but if moderate Muslims are against terrorism, then why *aren't* they outraged. If you aren't outraged, then you are essentially condoning the terrorism.
Uh, they are outraged. They aren't outraged at the terroists; they are outraged at the US government. There were a lot more foreign students attending colloge in the U.S. that had no opinion one way or another. Why should they feel outrage at an act of terrorism that is very remote to them? I didn't. I felt fear that the U.S. would become a full police state within the next five years. Going back to my mythical foreign student, he is attending college here. The student sees the news and thinks not much about it. Why should they? Acts of terrorism are common across the globe, the student is most likely used to ignoring it unless it is in an area that they have family/friends. Well, the student finishes either that semester or that year and goes back home. When the student attempts to come back into the country, he/she's visa is denied. After talks on the phone getting everything straightened out, the student finally has the approved visa. The student comes back to study in the U.S. and is throughly searched as a pontential terrorist. It would be somewhat understandable if the student was very outspoken that the polices of the US neeeded to be changed. This student is average though as in below notice by anyone. Now, just because of his culture, last name, and religion he is a suspected terrorist. Once back the student notices that everyone other than close friends seems to keep their eyes on them. Would you blame the terrorists for causing the situation or the U.S. Government and its people for treating you like this? I'd think our foreign student knows that it was all caused by the one big terrorist event, but emotionally blames the U.S. and its people for their treatment of all Islamic persons visiting the U.S. .
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I was afraid they had changed their name again. I'll be happy if they can just keep the same name for the 1.x series. I have a feeling that they will rename it at 1.0 and then again at 2.0.
And as far as reducing corruption with things other than buildings...you can in Civ3 Conquests.
I'm not buying an expansion pack for things that should have been included in the orginial game. I know that I've made a lot of poor game choices. My policy now is to just by the games when they finally drop to $20 rather than when they are $40-$50. It's not a perfect stragety, but I'm not mad at myself for blowing $50 for a product that I don't use.
You bastard--you ran over my cat! Open you damn eyes when you drive!
What's your cat doing on the interstate? I'm a passenger on the interstate. My wife does the driving. I get to snooze, or tell the kids to be quiet, or sing very badly to keep my wife awake.
What don't you always travel the interstate with some one else?
Make them do what I tell them to do, not what they THINK I'm trying to do.
Could you imagine the Clippy enchanced buzzsaw or worse the Clippy enchanced toilet? Those are things that I'd rather have complete control over.
I know some seemless intergrated security is better than having it tacked on afterward. I've always felt that if folks trusted a default security layer to be perfect, they will get burned when the defaul layer is broken. You should always have application encryption of important data. You shouldn't just trust that your pipe will be encrypted. Sometimes those pipes get used by unauthorized third parties that's when having everything else encrypted comes in handy. I'm just afraid folks will switch to the 802.11i and not bother to encrypt any of their data.
While I rattle on about how stupid we've become, why not just sedate all plane passengers with enough to keep them out cold for the duration of the flight? you fall asleep in the terminal and wake up at your destination?
Actually, this would be great for the airlines. They could fit alot more people on the plane that way! I remember a lot of road trips were like this too. I'd go to sleep about 10 mins. after traveling on interstate then just wake up 4 hours later at where ever we were going. Traveling is so much faster that way.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri fits all of those requirements... sure, it is older than Civ 3, but in my opinion it is vastly superior.
Yeah, I have both, and I like SMAC a lot better than Civ3 too. Its just frustrating that I was expecting Civ3 to be well actually better than SMAC. (How hard would it have been for them to use the SMAC engine for CIV3?) I'd expect Civ4 to be better still. I'm not holding my breath.
I also MOO3. After being burnt on both the MOO and the CIV games, I haven't bought any new game of that catagory.
Drop unfun legacy (pollution, rioting, maintenance, corruption/waste)
Each one of these wasn't that bad. The problem is they didn't give you any really good pollution cleanup or reduction tech. What 2 buildings will magically fix all our pollution needs? Nope. They needed a much wider tech tree that allowed you to discover/invent 5-10 buildings that would cut your pollution to near zero. Rioting was bad. The bad thing about it was that it stopped production of what ever you were building. Of course if it didn't do that, no one would care. I guess it would be nicer if they had 3-4 rioting levels. Instead of just stopping production, they could have protests that would extend the production time alittle. Other than rearrange people you the only option you was to build religious institutions, and some entertaiment centers. I guess having "riot prevenation" units would help. The problem with how they have traditionally done it though is that a military unit can't really be moved out of a city in a democracy with out a percentage being unhappy. There weren't really that may options other than over build troops or buildup temples and such.
Maintenance come on everything built needs maintenance or it degrades and becomes useless!
Corruption/waste this is I agree is a PITA. Other than a court house and the forbiden palace you really didn't have any corruption reducing buildings or units. The same goes for waste.
Each of this could be fixed by having several special units that help reduce the effect. Think maybe a actual Jester unit to reduce unhappiness, or a Judge or Court offical to reduce corruption rather than just the buildings.
If something SHOULD be a Right, but its not in the Constitution, its not a Right.
Actually the Bill of Rights says you have a lot of unlisted Rights that they thought were obvious that the Federal government couldn't just take away. (The Federal Founders let the States take those Rights away.) With the way things are enforced and how we've bent our laws and most of the Constitution, it now means that that the only Rights that you have are those spelled on in the Bill of Rights.
The argument of the Supreme Court is that your name doesn't incriminate you unless there are extenuating circumstances so asking you to identify yourself doesn't violate your 5th ammendment rights.
It does if its a political thing. You know John Smith my just get a speeding ticket, but Political Figure Jr. may get several other charges tacked on if the officer dislikes the Political Figure's family.
Let's hope they don't discover usenet.
but I'd rather be wrongly arrested than voluntarily be added to more databases.
As I understand it, they aren't adding any one that they photo to a database. They are checking the database for known people that they are after. I know alot of family members that have the same opinion as you. They'd also rather be arrested than have their photo taken by family members for the family photo. I'd be against storage of this data. The only time that I'd want to have storage of the data is if some one was arrested from it. It the photo taken by the officer and the photos that it matched should be flaged so the defendent's lawyer can get into action. To you're question about police photoing citizens, the obvious thought is that they video traffic stops. Remember the city has the right to video tape the officer while he is on duty. If you get caught on the city's video while he is patroling, he didn't do anything, it was just an automated system recording everything that he passed. The thing is almost all police supervisors wouldn't care about those day to day rides around town. The supervisors only care about when people are arrested (the citizen may complain) or there are complaints about the officer.
Here is an idea that will scare you. Imagine if Wal-mart, Target, Sears or any other large department store you may visit has their interal video survillance hooked up to this system (or maybe a privately owned database just for companies of shop lifters) and was scanning all customers. You would never know unless a police officer arrested you. The police officer could be called by the company about a "possible" felon in the store that they'd like the police to remove. Some police agency generally would try to look good to the store and general public. They would if not busy send some one to check it out. If the store already had who they had printed out with all their info. The police would call dispatch to verify the info. Then follow store security to the person.
This means what I think it does. We need to convert away from AC to DC power! Companies would save billions because almost all our devices would be simplier to design and build. As I understand it, it is alot simpler to convert DC to DC than AC to DC or DC to AC.
Here is the question. What applications require AC and would be use more power than DC?
Sheriff Everett Rice on Wednesday said his deputies are not being instructed to search for criminals and that the photos would be taken only if there was "cause to arrest."
If they arrest you, they already take your picture. If you appear on a wanted poster and are seen, you would hopefully at a min. be questioned if seen. If recongized, you'd be arrested and booked. During the booking process, guess what. Your picture is taken.
It would be very helpful if they had instant access to your driver lic. picture. Usually, they have to wait around for 15-20 min. while dispatch relays the request to records about basic DL info and if you are wanted for something. This system doesn't even recommend scanning everyone that passes it. I would. This program only wants to scan those that the police are have cause to arrest any way! Wouldn't you rather your picture be taken than arrested?
how long until we actually have laws that say people who mindlessly use tools without using their heads do jailtime equivalent to the judicial error they cause?
Never. Incompetence is not and will hopefully never be against the law. If incompetence kills someone, it in and of itself will not be what gets an individual or group of individuals into trouble. It's the death or injury to some one that caused the trouble not the incompetence.
Tools like this are actually a good thing! Do you know how many thousands of people are wanted or have a warrant out on them? If you have a warrant, you can be arrested. I doubt any police officer could mentally keep up with any but the most important felony warrants in their area. Police have always been allowed to look at citizens and compare who they come across with wanted/missing posters! This tool only makes that process more efficient. Usually local police don't care about other agency warrants if they aren't a felony. Do you as a citizen want some one that has a felony warrant walking around? I'd think not.
I'd say that they will most likely be mixed in with the real DVD's. The consumers buying them won't even notice a difference. To really make me what to pick one up, it would have to be under $3. I'd bet that they price them at $6-$10 and stick them right by the real DVDs or by the checkout.
Milk will spoil regardless. This is more like buying a car with device it in that automatically disables it from starting after 3000 miles forcing you to buy another one.
This is going to be the most untintelligible movie ever. No doubt. No question. Nobody's going to know what the hell is going on in the movie, especially not the cast.
Have you ever actually read a Phillip Dick book? That's just how most of his books go. Say your main character gets knocked out during a chase scene. You'd expect that he is captured by his enemies, or escapes and is running from his enemies, or his enemy just escaped from him. In a Dick book, that character is just as likely to wake up, lose at a VR game, or have been in a mental state experimenting with different realities. Oh, he doesn't give you or the character any sense of which reality is the real one either. Was that chase scene real, or was it just a very real VR game? Is this life real or is it a simulation? His books are really confusing.
All you need to do is take the thing back the next day and demand a refund.
Say that when you tried to play it the DVD was already dead. How can they prove the air seal hadn't failed already or the disk was faulty due to a manufacturing defect.
No, you should return it and state that you expect products that you buy from them work for more than 8 hours. Demand a full refund or exchange. IF exchangd, make sure it works every 8 hours. Taking back an entire stack of defective dvds will make the stores never buy them again while that manager is there.
Even worse, US government organizations, like NASA, are not allowed to purchase a seat for their astronauts on Soyuz, and i doubt that Shenzou seats are for sale at the moment.
That wouldn't be fair to all those rich guys trying to buy tickets if NASA was allowed to outbid them!
For everyone that just started checking /. at 4:00 pm. this article was posted at 9:04 am. this morning.
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Ok. He wants a real world metaphor. Try a cross between a landfill site (one for a city of several million), a library of congress, and a recycling center.
That's the mess of "my documents." I could only hope that some could invent a "recycling center" that would scan my documents (the landfill), put intelligent metadata in there, and place it in the proper folder place in my personnal "library of congress."
On the other hand, if they can get it to be as robust and enough mem like thumb drives, they could really take off.
I like thumb drives. I read the blurb and thought so instead of a thumb drive, some one has put the flash mem in pen and some wireless transmission like bluetooth to do the transferring and basicly doing a copy and paste onto an external storage device. Big whoopie.
I'm sorry Martin O'Malley, but there are many other ways that you can prevent crime and terrorism than by setting up a 24-hour surveillance network in the city. How about increasing a police force in the city so that a presence is seen? Wouldn't residents feel a bit more comfortable having an actual person than a camera?
You could hire more police officers and increase the workforce. But, instead you are going to pay retired police officers and college kids to sit on their ass and wait for somethign to happen. Plain stupid.
Do you know how much it costs to properly train and keep current a police officer? I want all those current officers being dispatched to emergencies. I don't want officers sitting at HQ watching cameras. That is a community watch job.
Retired police officers and college kids will work for cheap. The retired police officers have been through all that police training and have had it drilled into their heads what rights the public has. I remember being a computer lab monitor in college and some friend were security guards. They'd take their books and study all night and get up and walk around once an hour or so. As far as budgetting goes, I think this would be a great min. wage job for junior students. It would be nice and safe. They wouldn't prevent crime, but they could detect it and call dispatch and have police there faster. I also assume that these cameras would be recorded so that they could be used in court cases. It would be a good thing to make high school students think they are doing their civic duty. I just got a new idea. They only need to pay a HS teacher as part of a class. It would be the class's job to report and record all the crime in the monitored area that way you get 30 student's labor for free, the students feeling of doing civic good, and the teacher paid a slight bonus.
But what happens when most of the citizens in downtown baltimore have shiny new closed circuit video cameras in their house they liberated from poles on the street?
That's why you have to have active RFID in these things! I guess you could also just make them broad cast out wirelessly. Forget having 1984 where everyone has those mirror/TV/videophones that are everywhere, we could make these things easy to steal... Then we could send Mr. Policeman with video evidence and tracking information directly to the criminals, or Mr. Policeman may just watch the "stolen" cameras in the hope of them showing more crime than just a stolen video camera.
Sorry, but if moderate Muslims are against terrorism, then why *aren't* they outraged. If you aren't outraged, then you are essentially condoning the terrorism.
Uh, they are outraged. They aren't outraged at the terroists; they are outraged at the US government. There were a lot more foreign students attending colloge in the U.S. that had no opinion one way or another. Why should they feel outrage at an act of terrorism that is very remote to them? I didn't. I felt fear that the U.S. would become a full police state within the next five years. Going back to my mythical foreign student, he is attending college here. The student sees the news and thinks not much about it. Why should they? Acts of terrorism are common across the globe, the student is most likely used to ignoring it unless it is in an area that they have family/friends. Well, the student finishes either that semester or that year and goes back home. When the student attempts to come back into the country, he/she's visa is denied. After talks on the phone getting everything straightened out, the student finally has the approved visa. The student comes back to study in the U.S. and is throughly searched as a pontential terrorist. It would be somewhat understandable if the student was very outspoken that the polices of the US neeeded to be changed. This student is average though as in below notice by anyone. Now, just because of his culture, last name, and religion he is a suspected terrorist. Once back the student notices that everyone other than close friends seems to keep their eyes on them. Would you blame the terrorists for causing the situation or the U.S. Government and its people for treating you like this? I'd think our foreign student knows that it was all caused by the one big terrorist event, but emotionally blames the U.S. and its people for their treatment of all Islamic persons visiting the U.S. .