I'd love to see something like LinuxWorld in Ohio.
so that no body would show up and the thing would end up a show of the past? really, there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to bring this type of "tourism" to the state of ohio. in a state where dinning out is the most common recreational activity. well i don't have to say more.
i know what you mean about the computer literacy level of the ohio residents, but a show like this in ohio (CMH, CLE, CIN) would drive it out of business.
this ad supported music delivery mechanism has been around for some time, and will continue to be around for a while. radio. it exists on the open air waves, and it exists on the internet. i'm sure you've got a better implementation in mind for your ad supported mechanism, but you've got to get the buy in for the owners of the product. i don't think it's fair that a huge conglomorate owns distribution for all that music, but that's how the game played out.
what if 60+ million americans stopped paying for software because they could get it from p2p? while i am mostly a consumer of free/open software, i also would uphold ones ability to charge a fee for a (software) product and to protect that product from thieft.
personally, i think.99$ is too much for a single downloadable song in mp3 format if that's what itunes charges, but whatever. looks like they're making some easy money .
you might not be alone, but there's still lots of servers inside a corporate network that are running telnet. telnet clients are more common than ssh clients. that's about the only reason i can think of to have it.
this sounds like a RIAA type comment from 1996 regarding distributing music over the internet.
this is technology. things change at a rapid pace. 5 years ago, we were all using ssh to log in to our machines. today, that's only done inside a corporate network (hopefully) thanks to "changing everything around".
i don't think the OP was trolling, but just speaking an oppinion. if the system is flawed, don't blame a few folks for exploiting it. you can't tell fat-ass-bob that he can't have any more steak at the all-u-can-eat steak buffet just because he's had 5 alredy (unless there's a stated limit).
i've watched the 2nd movie ( first and second installments) and it's a decent movie. about as good as the first movie if you can look around the uber-movie glasses lots of people put on after the first movie.
the point was that open source application developers don't really use other's _code_ in their applications. if someone needs an application, most often, they're not going to pick up somthing someone else did and expand on it. they're going to build the application from scratch, using the libraries they're familiar with.
If these were open source projects, I would imagine that there would be a good amount of code reuse going on here.
really? maybe building on others work from time to time, but not as much code reuse. lots of times it takes as much time to find out about code to re-use as it does to actually re-write the code. during refactoring is where code reuse is sometimes best implemented. sure, once a developer knows about a piece of trusted code, they're sure to use it often. but until then, lots of people prefer to home roll it.
where's that edit functionality in these posts. ok, so the HIG has it as edit->preferences, not file->preferenaces. they got one right. i still don't like their cancel/quit buttons.
mozilla has it's preferances in edit->preferances, while firebird has it in Tools->Options. talk about confusing, but it's probably Firebird's attempt to look like IE.
to me it makes more sense to be able to modify an application's properties in Edit-Preferences. gnome has their Human Interface Guidelines, and obviously, they've picked file preferences for their guideline. then again, they can never get their ok/cancel buttons in line with the rest of the developed world.
yeah, they probably sent Vito down to visit Marcelo with a suite case full of jacksons and a simple message to deliver. "Marc... look we've got this fine filesystem here. you've seen the code. its nice code. but, you've got our competitor filesystem code in your kernel. now before we get our brawls all in an up roar, all we're asking is you HIGHLY consider putting this here XFS filesystem into that there kernel you're maintinging. Now, be a good boy, Marc, I know you'll do the right thing"
me i always hate seeing commercial quality products ending up on free software. the disgust.
For one thing, it is network transparent (so I can run a MAS enabled MP3 player, for example, in a remote X session, but still hear the sound.)
i think this is a major selling point here! I had the "opportunity" to use Windows XP's remote desktop, and tought it was pretty kewl that i could run winamp on the remote desktop and hear the sound on my local box. this makes using remote x login much nicer. you can have a centralized file/X server with all the users directories and such and they can still listen to RIAA crap all day!! i'll have to check out this MAS thing soon.
i didn't;), but i'm guesstimating that it's because XFree86 had a fallout with the xouvert folks about direction of the project and timelieness of change. basically, the xouvert thought that xfree wasn't accepting features quickly enough, and there was too much political bs required to get features implemented. thus a fork.
why, oh why does this ctrl-alt-+ ctrl-alt-minus keep coming up everytime someone mentions they want to change their desktop resolution?
to a user, this doesn't change the resolution. it seems more like a zoom in, zoom out feature. great if you need to zoom in/out. but if you want to change resolution, you're not going to find it here. a user would want to be in a 1024x768 resolution, have a browser window maximized, and change the resolution to 800x600 and still see that window maximized (and have that entire window displayd on the monitor w/o having to move their mouse around).
maybe XFree86 could go a step further than implementing a Microsoft change resolution feature. give the ability to have different resolutions on different virtual desktops. that's where it gets close to window manager implementation to me. it would be nice to have one virtual desktop with 800x600 resolution, and one with 1024x768 or what ever the user prefereances are. it would be nice if XFree86 could give each window the ability to be shown it its own resolution.
informative, sure. but... you fail to mention that this feature requires support of the window _managers_ to be able to use this feature. to use this in kde you're gonna need 3.2 which is still in beta. i'm not quite as familiar with other window managers, but last i looked into this, there weren't ANY that let you resize your desktop on the fly similiar to right clicking on the desktop, thenchoosing "resolutions", then selecting something different than the one you're using, and giving you and option to try out the new one.
IIRC, xrandr has been in xfree since the 4.3 series, which i suppose you could consider "a while now". this version of the server which was released 27 Feb of 2003. are the wm's slow to implement this feature? this is a feature Microsoft has had for 8 years now.
while XFree86 _is_ nice, it seems very cumbersome to change. there's probably a small list of feature requests from the user community out there, and they're not getting implemented.
when you tell the truth, be sure to give the whole story.
what do they care. their customers aren't the type of customers that give a shit about $50k for an oracle production install. their customers do buy the name and the support. so someone else can take a tool and extend it so that postgresql has a nicer admin tool. i don't see that eating much away from oracles cash register. they're in a different league.
maybe someone could take that oracle tool and make it usefull by.. sybase or MS Sql Server. i guess those are other "large" players. who cares. it's giving to opensource. and giving has to be a give with no strings attached.
look at the eclipse platform from IBM. they give it away. sure, they sell some derivitive of it as WSAD, but they give away the base model. other companies (myeclipseide.com) also sell derivitives of it. that's supporting the opensource community. (IBM anyway. maybe myeclipseide gives something in terms of opensource, who knows).
Its a huge thing. One of the biggest complaints of Linux is that it can't run stuff Windows does.
i'd really like to see the sales figures of oracle on microsoft platform. the point being that oracle knows that microsoft isn't stable and robust enough for mission critical stuff. they'll steer you hard twords a solaris box.
i'm not King of OpenSource (tm), i'm just saying that oracle is riding the linux bandwagon like all the other companies out there. they're not opensource. for opensource rdbms, there's firebird. if they want to be viewed as an opensource company, they need to give an opensource product to the community. how can a company be call opensource and not give source to the community?
at the heard of opensource, is that the source is available for inspection by all. if apple didn't give back it's kernel, would they be contributing to opensource? they hold their window system, and that's ok, they're still giving _something_ concrete back.
Netscape was THE browser, until IE 4.0 was out for a while. that's when the tides really started to turn. People actually installed browsers on their system. they knew a little how it worked. IE (3.0) was some pre-installed browser that didn't work on 1/2 the sites, and crashed often.
and today... today, moz (and its variants) is a great browser that all the geeks use. those that don't, they're not hard core.
what contributions do you see Oracle making to opensource and specifically the linux platform?
having their software running on linux doesn't directly contribute to opensource software.
IMO, oracle is more of an open source whore as sun and co. is. they're ridding the bandwagon like the everybody else. "sure, we can compile this thing to run on linux, you think someone will buy?". oracle, because of your reputation with some PHB's and your overinflated/underused support contracts, you're going to sell some enterprise RDBMS systems. how about open sourcing the admin tools? how about giving generic admin tools? how about open source gui type plugins for eclipse/netbeans? how about open source oci libraries? no can do? whore.
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dude.. heh. ahem. he like used Detroit and pleasant in the same sentence. amazing. simply amazing
I'd love to see something like LinuxWorld in Ohio.
so that no body would show up and the thing would end up a show of the past? really, there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to bring this type of "tourism" to the state of ohio. in a state where dinning out is the most common recreational activity. well i don't have to say more.
i know what you mean about the computer literacy level of the ohio residents, but a show like this in ohio (CMH, CLE, CIN) would drive it out of business.
It's an armpit of a city with nothing to offer beside gambling, strippers, and show biz acts
i take it you see this as a bad thing? interesting indeed.
it has fdisk, no? i'd say that give you write access to that former NTFS partition.
this ad supported music delivery mechanism has been around for some time, and will continue to be around for a while. radio. it exists on the open air waves, and it exists on the internet. i'm sure you've got a better implementation in mind for your ad supported mechanism, but you've got to get the buy in for the owners of the product. i don't think it's fair that a huge conglomorate owns distribution for all that music, but that's how the game played out.
.99$ is too much for a single downloadable song in mp3 format if that's what itunes charges, but whatever. looks like they're making some easy money .
what if 60+ million americans stopped paying for software because they could get it from p2p? while i am mostly a consumer of free/open software, i also would uphold ones ability to charge a fee for a (software) product and to protect that product from thieft.
personally, i think
you might not be alone, but there's still lots of servers inside a corporate network that are running telnet. telnet clients are more common than ssh clients. that's about the only reason i can think of to have it.
doh, that s/b "5 years ago, we were all using telnet..."
this sounds like a RIAA type comment from 1996 regarding distributing music over the internet.
this is technology. things change at a rapid pace. 5 years ago, we were all using ssh to log in to our machines. today, that's only done inside a corporate network (hopefully) thanks to "changing everything around".
i don't think the OP was trolling, but just speaking an oppinion. if the system is flawed, don't blame a few folks for exploiting it. you can't tell fat-ass-bob that he can't have any more steak at the all-u-can-eat steak buffet just because he's had 5 alredy (unless there's a stated limit).
i've always used cdex to rip cd's in windows, and grip to rip them in linux. never thought that much about it.
i've watched the 2nd movie ( first and second installments) and it's a decent movie. about as good as the first movie if you can look around the uber-movie glasses lots of people put on after the first movie.
the point was that open source application developers don't really use other's _code_ in their applications. if someone needs an application, most often, they're not going to pick up somthing someone else did and expand on it. they're going to build the application from scratch, using the libraries they're familiar with.
If these were open source projects, I would imagine that there would be a good amount of code reuse going on here.
really? maybe building on others work from time to time, but not as much code reuse. lots of times it takes as much time to find out about code to re-use as it does to actually re-write the code. during refactoring is where code reuse is sometimes best implemented. sure, once a developer knows about a piece of trusted code, they're sure to use it often. but until then, lots of people prefer to home roll it.
where's that edit functionality in these posts. ok, so the HIG has it as edit->preferences, not file->preferenaces. they got one right. i still don't like their cancel/quit buttons.
mozilla has it's preferances in edit->preferances, while firebird has it in Tools->Options. talk about confusing, but it's probably Firebird's attempt to look like IE.
to me it makes more sense to be able to modify an application's properties in Edit-Preferences. gnome has their Human Interface Guidelines, and obviously, they've picked file preferences for their guideline. then again, they can never get their ok/cancel buttons in line with the rest of the developed world.
yeah, they probably sent Vito down to visit Marcelo with a suite case full of jacksons and a simple message to deliver. "Marc... look we've got this fine filesystem here. you've seen the code. its nice code. but, you've got our competitor filesystem code in your kernel. now before we get our brawls all in an up roar, all we're asking is you HIGHLY consider putting this here XFS filesystem into that there kernel you're maintinging. Now, be a good boy, Marc, I know you'll do the right thing"
me i always hate seeing commercial quality products ending up on free software. the disgust.
LILO? dude, that's like, so 199^N^N^N^ er, debianish. that bacon's done moved over ages ago.
For one thing, it is network transparent (so I can run a MAS enabled MP3 player, for example, in a remote X session, but still hear the sound.)
i think this is a major selling point here! I had the "opportunity" to use Windows XP's remote desktop, and tought it was pretty kewl that i could run winamp on the remote desktop and hear the sound on my local box. this makes using remote x login much nicer. you can have a centralized file/X server with all the users directories and such and they can still listen to RIAA crap all day!! i'll have to check out this MAS thing soon.
did you read the FAQ?
;), but i'm guesstimating that it's because XFree86 had a fallout with the xouvert folks about direction of the project and timelieness of change. basically, the xouvert thought that xfree wasn't accepting features quickly enough, and there was too much political bs required to get features implemented. thus a fork.
i didn't
why, oh why does this ctrl-alt-+ ctrl-alt-minus keep coming up everytime someone mentions they want to change their desktop resolution?
to a user, this doesn't change the resolution. it seems more like a zoom in, zoom out feature. great if you need to zoom in/out. but if you want to change resolution, you're not going to find it here. a user would want to be in a 1024x768 resolution, have a browser window maximized, and change the resolution to 800x600 and still see that window maximized (and have that entire window displayd on the monitor w/o having to move their mouse around).
maybe XFree86 could go a step further than implementing a Microsoft change resolution feature. give the ability to have different resolutions on different virtual desktops. that's where it gets close to window manager implementation to me. it would be nice to have one virtual desktop with 800x600 resolution, and one with 1024x768 or what ever the user prefereances are. it would be nice if XFree86 could give each window the ability to be shown it its own resolution.
informative, sure. but... you fail to mention that this feature requires support of the window _managers_ to be able to use this feature. to use this in kde you're gonna need 3.2 which is still in beta. i'm not quite as familiar with other window managers, but last i looked into this, there weren't ANY that let you resize your desktop on the fly similiar to right clicking on the desktop, thenchoosing "resolutions", then selecting something different than the one you're using, and giving you and option to try out the new one.
IIRC, xrandr has been in xfree since the 4.3 series, which i suppose you could consider "a while now". this version of the server which was released 27 Feb of 2003. are the wm's slow to implement this feature? this is a feature Microsoft has had for 8 years now.
while XFree86 _is_ nice, it seems very cumbersome to change. there's probably a small list of feature requests from the user community out there, and they're not getting implemented.
when you tell the truth, be sure to give the whole story.
what do they care. their customers aren't the type of customers that give a shit about $50k for an oracle production install. their customers do buy the name and the support. so someone else can take a tool and extend it so that postgresql has a nicer admin tool. i don't see that eating much away from oracles cash register. they're in a different league.
.. sybase or MS Sql Server. i guess those are other "large" players. who cares. it's giving to opensource. and giving has to be a give with no strings attached.
maybe someone could take that oracle tool and make it usefull by
look at the eclipse platform from IBM. they give it away. sure, they sell some derivitive of it as WSAD, but they give away the base model. other companies (myeclipseide.com) also sell derivitives of it. that's supporting the opensource community. (IBM anyway. maybe myeclipseide gives something in terms of opensource, who knows).
Its a huge thing. One of the biggest complaints of Linux is that it can't run stuff Windows does.
i'd really like to see the sales figures of oracle on microsoft platform. the point being that oracle knows that microsoft isn't stable and robust enough for mission critical stuff. they'll steer you hard twords a solaris box.
i'm not King of OpenSource (tm), i'm just saying that oracle is riding the linux bandwagon like all the other companies out there. they're not opensource. for opensource rdbms, there's firebird. if they want to be viewed as an opensource company, they need to give an opensource product to the community. how can a company be call opensource and not give source to the community?
at the heard of opensource, is that the source is available for inspection by all. if apple didn't give back it's kernel, would they be contributing to opensource? they hold their window system, and that's ok, they're still giving _something_ concrete back.
what 90's did you grow up in?
Netscape was THE browser, until IE 4.0 was out for a while. that's when the tides really started to turn. People actually installed browsers on their system. they knew a little how it worked. IE (3.0) was some pre-installed browser that didn't work on 1/2 the sites, and crashed often.
and today... today, moz (and its variants) is a great browser that all the geeks use. those that don't, they're not hard core.
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what contributions do you see Oracle making to opensource and specifically the linux platform?
having their software running on linux doesn't directly contribute to opensource software.
IMO, oracle is more of an open source whore as sun and co. is. they're ridding the bandwagon like the everybody else. "sure, we can compile this thing to run on linux, you think someone will buy?". oracle, because of your reputation with some PHB's and your overinflated/underused support contracts, you're going to sell some enterprise RDBMS systems. how about open sourcing the admin tools? how about giving generic admin tools? how about open source gui type plugins for eclipse/netbeans? how about open source oci libraries? no can do? whore.