Mistakes/Accidents can happen and should be forgiven. Intentional actions are criminal and should be punished. War is always intentional, caused by political mistakes.
The Soldiers mistake should always be forgiven. The intentional action should not be forgiven, forgotten, or punish the next generation.
Forgiving yourself is always impossible and unnecessary, but....
So, to summarize, the idea of nation states waging cyberwar (may be SunTzu, Ideal) with cyberweapons (DDOS, buffer overflow, worm, spoof/snoop, EMP...) is not fiction.
It's an analogy we might use to describe some things that are virtual/conceptual that can cripple military/government ability to respond to emergency/threat incidents that are not in cyberspace, which triggers an excessive misdirected reaction. It's not what really goes on in cyberspace, but if a small-degree of fire-sale is possible that would allow mafia/other covert manipulation of a stock or market sector that could fund other criminal/war activities would that be using cyberwar/cyberweapon?
The conflicts between nation states in cyberspace is warfare by other then lethal weapons(MD). The tools "Crackers" use are like weapons that can disable or disrupt tactical or strategic response, but no local/international law will ever prevent the creation or use of cyberweapons except possibly cyberspace disconnection/embargo (diplomatic) or cyberspace-MAD (military).
Can cyberwar/weapons be used in asymmetric warfare? Yes! Can cyberwar/weapons include physical contact/weapons (EMP/firesale) for augmenting tactics and strategy? Yes!
The cyberwar fiction is what drives the corporate/national policy, and that worries me a lot. The insipidness is a bigger danger to US, EU, RU... cyberspace than foreign/domestic Crackers.
SunTzu analogy: The subjugation of your enemy without a death or any physical destruction of the infrastructure or industrial-base is ideal/possible.
I know that there can be an economic/legal impact, but CyberWar (I think) is used by businesses/C*Os to deflect legal responsibility and by governments to oppress public/citizens rights.
Yes there can be CyberWar, but CyberWar as a word/term can and (I think) is too frequently misused to fear-exploit and express faux-responsibility of the culpable and innocent.
I guess, I could be wrong, but... you cannot convince me (on this topic); So, BOOOWho?
I agree, but I don't trust politicians to get it done right.
Credit (Equifax...) rating companies, credit card companies, Bank/Loan Sharks... are the one that validate false/stolen IDs. I have always thought the should be the first sued by ID theft victims.
(IMHO) A safe place for a pedestrian to walk is the responsibility of the person and the local government, except in a war-zone where everything and everyone is a little crazy.
If it had been a local street, marked crosswalk area, or parking lot, then I would consider the driver 100% at fault.
Google providing a road map with directions from A2B, like any reasonably safe reference/tool, the user must be reasonable and personally responsible in practical application. Google providing a road map with directions will make no decision for the individual, when the individual takes a safer, legally required detour... that is the reasonable individual decision.
No one can protect themselves from their own mistakes without insurance. She needs to get walking insurance, and I hope she does not have a drivers license.
Let's totally unplug all backwards theocracies from the internet including the religious gangs in the US, EU, RU....
We could provide an internet cast-system: One for the religious-devout dogmatist, One for the plutocratic mega-entitled-lomaniacs dogmatist, One for the general population of all other murderous-nutty-extremist.
I like your thought, but it needs some work. It does not go far enough to protect free and reasonable people, from the "holier and better than thou" mental and emotional cripples around the world (US, EU, RU... Iran, Arabia, Israel, Vatican... Enron, BP, Wall Street, DC... ).
Politicians and Business could have invested in research years ago that would have developed hard and usable solutions for today in under-sea drilling. Solid-governance in the public interest would have refused to permit any off-shore drilling until solutions were proven and ready for the man-made fyckups. Politicians ask and pay business, not academia, for advice. If business funds academic research we get business findings. If We The People funded academic research, then we would get the findings we need (the best and most unbiased possible), then if we could prevent the politicians from re-writing the academic findings... (make it illegal). We should be looking at BP assets/accounts... and preparing to cease all that is BP, before investors can sell and criminals can destroy evidence and run with money to private country resorts. Corporate/Religious loyalty and honor will never be based on the public (or gods) interest. Freedom from governance for politicians, C*Os, clergy is a sure way to enslave US Citizens. Freedom applied to institutions is a crime against humanity under the cloak of law/megalomania. Freedom is a quality of life condition that applies to living things like US, EU, RU... Citizens. Business/political/religious... institutions have no innate rights to Freedom, no guilt response, and no need for any civil rights, institutions must be governed to prevent excesses by foolish a/o psychotic leaders. Every politician should be required to obtain a mental heath certificate prior to any campaigning.
What does proxy-governance by corporations a/o religions provide the world, except slow painful horrible cancerous, diseased, infected... death? Nothing, but excuses and quisling quibbling for delusional people. The best solution is to nuke ourselves into annihilation/extinction. When the entitled few believe they can survive on top of the bodies of the masses history shows that the few are screwed permanently. With WMD-Drones (WMDD) and global environmental collapse today, It is in the interest of the entitled few and the bitchy many to get their shit together. Survival of the fittest is bullshit, and that which does not kill US will only make US weak cripples for scavengers.
T-Party, D-Party, R-Party, whatever/wherever-fycking-Party they are will provide varying spins on the same excuses and quisling quibbling, during and after each election. I have heard the same bullshit in the USA and every country I have been in for 40 years.
Corporations a/o religions are the root of all evil on the earth, from over-population, famine, pollution, energy, illiteracy, counterfeit-governments with proxy-governance, fear, intolerance.... Blaming the government for public stupidity and intransigence before and after every election is sickly-comical, the government is manipulated by the politicians agenda, the politicians agenda is directed by corporate interest, and the voters are the fools for believing them or gods are going to save them. If you cannot make a politician, C*O, cleric accountable to the people, then the people are just exploitable and expendable slaves of the ruling plutocrat masters. We must get our politicians to disenfranchise corporations, religion, and political-positions, then enfranchise and enable all the people within government and governance.
We US Citizens elected the mess, we gave the krap life long careers in fyckUS, and we should all shoulder the blame for our lack of responsibility to US as a People. The POTUS is new and proportionally as responsible as any other citizen for this fycking-mess.
Reagan and Bush two likable puppet-POTUS for the masses that big-biz pwned.
Only fools believe the USA is a democratic meritocracy or capitalist nation.
Education has many "Open" technology tools, content, infrastructure... available, which could provide cost effective learning experiences to all USA children that would equal any private school and rival many in the world. National standards should start with a national curriculum supported by Open/Free school books developed and approved by the top 10 or 20 major university education departments. A nation in crisis must educate children to be the best possible citizens, but in the USA we let Texas develop USA school books for most USA public schools. No wounder, why I and so many other folks are high school drop outs, and proportionally so few are not dead or in jail.
Big-biz C*Os, their politicians, and the entitled privileged have made US the joke of current history with corporate welfare, legal kick-backs-by-proxy, social-club-nepotism/bigotry.... Education economically separate but equal is a national tragedy. Military duty and national service (man, woman, gay, handicap...) when not a legal obligation, culturally inclusive, and personal responsibility indicates the dawn before the fall of the nation (Carthage, Rome, Germany...). Bring back and expand the DRAFT to include USAll as a nations of people, end the master-slave relationship.
The "Domino Theory" has again proven to be fallacious logic. Politicians are such idiots, I am amazed we won WWII, maybe the other fools politicians were that much worse than ours. Then again, maybe currently our politicians are that much worse than....
The letter confirms The Corporate Welfare state that replaced the Social Welfare state provides reason to stupidity.
We pay for what we get, what the government gets, what the business C*Os get, and what our government gives to business with privileges, tax breaks, civil rights, kick-backs-by-proxy....
Corporate Institutions are more enfranchised than private citizens in the USA a pure plutocracy of the entitled of Corporate American Governance.
Is it better for one to control all, all to control one, none to control all, or all to control none?
As any solution, provide sustenance that grows value, not malice and malevolence. it is better not to consider control ever.
PreDNS-IPv4, DNS, DNSSec... One for all must be all for one, because institutional/national evil lurks behind every wall for everyone.
China, Clerics, C*Os, and some others seek global economic domination with in hall mazes behind stalinist/maoist walls.
I suspect, where DNS splits occur, it will be for nazi/fascist, religion/dogma, and/or faux-capitalism/corporate-welfare governance. "The People" will be like North Korean citizens (eventually without food, shelter, rights... as goes Iran).
A Nation of "The People" has all the rights, the government/institution is never the nation and should never have rights.
"Is hiding under our collective bed an option for humanity in the wider galaxy?"
Considering that, recent human history, Hitler proved to be as good about Jews, as Europeans were about all indigenous colonial people, as Pol Pot was about Cambodians. As V-POTUS George Wild Bush, Emperor Crazy Napoleon, and Mad Joe Stalin were about wasting the best Russian, French, and US Warriors in murderous personal interest ventures.
Public spectacles entertainment of Gladiator games, at least the participants are now much better paid, and far more survive their "Sport" career into early retirement with a few having regular comfortable income until death.
Considering human history..., If we ain't ready to compete in protecting our planet from ourselves by colonizing other uninhabited home-system planets, limiting population growth (by other than war)...? Well beating back a resources consuming, global ravaging hoard of alien locus (Movie Independence Day, the enemy is very human) is very unlikely.
We will be the lambs (like US-NAP) for the slaughter, or at best an exploitable slave (like Jews) resource for politicians and C*Os trying to barter for more time to survive, all because we were to stupid to hide from the colonist looking for riches, land, and resources to plunder.
The debate is stupid. Each vote has an equal value. Rounding up or down will approximate the weight of each vote. 100/206=0.485436893, the proportional value of each vote. So, 0.485436893*136=66.02 votes per 100 people in the population of 206.
Art is always of great cultural value, and should be protected from heathens and christians.
Pornography is always of interest to perverts, but how do you distinguish?
For me if society (the least qualified) decides to make a law that defines an asexual baby, child, adult... picture as porno, then the picture is illegal and possibly pornographic. If the viewer identifies porno, then it may be porno, or it may be a personal psycho-sexual dysfunction caused by nurture or events.
The album cover does reflect a cultural fixation of US/EU iconoclast use of titillation to artistically (not porno) express repression or promote capitalist marketing (bad taste, but not porno).
Religious/Cultural laws should never define civil law about human sexual behavior, but the spectrum of irreligious global law ranges from murderous cristian/islam fanatics in primitive villages to major international cities round the world.
For me the rule: Art does include all human exclusive sexual activity. Art does include asexual imaging/expression of the human form. Never harm others mentally, physically, or emotionally, still (for me) does mean art should at times offend and confront the righteous indignation of others. If it harms others in the making, marketing, provoking... then it is porno, but if the making and marketing is to provide information, objects, value, entertainment, and there is no intended purpose to provoke the mentally and emotionally ill (pedophiles, necrophiliacs...) into harming themselves or others, then it cannot be pornographic (but may be illegal and should reasonably be avoided).
Yes we should protect children and people (strong law and sentences) from sexual and cultural exploitation. However, a picture of a woman graphically presented as a pre-pubescent nubile girl is art. A person (man or woman) seeking sexual gratification from such a picture or person should seek professional psychiatric help, because individuals not seeing artistic value is a problem indicator (maybe a closet pedophile) .
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Why a 15 digit prime number with a leading zero?
100010001010011, 17491, 4453
I agree, be silent, be very silent. Better yet saying nothing might keep you out of trouble/
CN pwns US.
Mistakes/Accidents can happen and should be forgiven.
Intentional actions are criminal and should be punished.
War is always intentional, caused by political mistakes.
The Soldiers mistake should always be forgiven.
The intentional action should not be forgiven, forgotten, or punish the next generation.
Forgiving yourself is always impossible and unnecessary, but....
So, to summarize, the idea of nation states waging cyberwar (may be SunTzu, Ideal) with cyberweapons (DDOS, buffer overflow, worm, spoof/snoop, EMP...) is not fiction.
It's an analogy we might use to describe some things that are virtual/conceptual that can cripple military/government ability to respond to emergency/threat incidents that are not in cyberspace, which triggers an excessive misdirected reaction. It's not what really goes on in cyberspace, but if a small-degree of fire-sale is possible that would allow mafia/other covert manipulation of a stock or market sector that could fund other criminal/war activities would that be using cyberwar/cyberweapon?
The conflicts between nation states in cyberspace is warfare by other then lethal weapons(MD). The tools "Crackers" use are like weapons that can disable or disrupt tactical or strategic response, but no local/international law will ever prevent the creation or use of cyberweapons except possibly cyberspace disconnection/embargo (diplomatic) or cyberspace-MAD (military).
Can cyberwar/weapons be used in asymmetric warfare? Yes!
Can cyberwar/weapons include physical contact/weapons (EMP/firesale) for augmenting tactics and strategy? Yes!
The cyberwar fiction is what drives the corporate/national policy, and that worries me a lot. The insipidness is a bigger danger to US, EU, RU... cyberspace than foreign/domestic Crackers.
SunTzu analogy: The subjugation of your enemy without a death or any physical destruction of the infrastructure or industrial-base is ideal/possible.
SunTzu still pwns war.
I know that there can be an economic/legal impact, but CyberWar (I think) is used by businesses/C*Os to deflect legal responsibility and by governments to oppress public/citizens rights.
Yes there can be CyberWar, but CyberWar as a word/term can and (I think) is too frequently misused to fear-exploit and express faux-responsibility of the culpable and innocent.
I guess, I could be wrong, but... you cannot convince me (on this topic); So, BOOOWho?
I agree, but I don't trust politicians to get it done right.
Credit (Equifax...) rating companies, credit card companies, Bank/Loan Sharks... are the one that validate false/stolen IDs. I have always thought the should be the first sued by ID theft victims.
(IMHO) A safe place for a pedestrian to walk is the responsibility of the person and the local government, except in a war-zone where everything and everyone is a little crazy.
If it had been a local street, marked crosswalk area, or parking lot, then I would consider the driver 100% at fault.
Google providing a road map with directions from A2B, like any reasonably safe reference/tool, the user must be reasonable and personally responsible in practical application. Google providing a road map with directions will make no decision for the individual, when the individual takes a safer, legally required detour... that is the reasonable individual decision.
No one can protect themselves from their own mistakes without insurance. She needs to get walking insurance, and I hope she does not have a drivers license.
Let's totally unplug all backwards theocracies from the internet including the religious gangs in the US, EU, RU....
We could provide an internet cast-system: One for the religious-devout dogmatist, One for the plutocratic mega-entitled-lomaniacs dogmatist, One for the general population of all other murderous-nutty-extremist.
I like your thought, but it needs some work. It does not go far enough to protect free and reasonable people, from the "holier and better than thou" mental and emotional cripples around the world (US, EU, RU... Iran, Arabia, Israel, Vatican... Enron, BP, Wall Street, DC... ).
We all want it! We all need it! We all know we can't live without it!
Toxic America, Toxic EU, Toxic RU, Toxic CN... Toxic Oceans, Toxic Air, Toxic Blood....
Politicians and Business could have invested in research years ago that would have developed hard and usable solutions for today in under-sea drilling. Solid-governance in the public interest would have refused to permit any off-shore drilling until solutions were proven and ready for the man-made fyckups. Politicians ask and pay business, not academia, for advice. If business funds academic research we get business findings. If We The People funded academic research, then we would get the findings we need (the best and most unbiased possible), then if we could prevent the politicians from re-writing the academic findings... (make it illegal). We should be looking at BP assets/accounts... and preparing to cease all that is BP, before investors can sell and criminals can destroy evidence and run with money to private country resorts. Corporate/Religious loyalty and honor will never be based on the public (or gods) interest. Freedom from governance for politicians, C*Os, clergy is a sure way to enslave US Citizens. Freedom applied to institutions is a crime against humanity under the cloak of law/megalomania. Freedom is a quality of life condition that applies to living things like US, EU, RU... Citizens. Business/political/religious... institutions have no innate rights to Freedom, no guilt response, and no need for any civil rights, institutions must be governed to prevent excesses by foolish a/o psychotic leaders. Every politician should be required to obtain a mental heath certificate prior to any campaigning.
What does proxy-governance by corporations a/o religions provide the world, except slow painful horrible cancerous, diseased, infected ... death? Nothing, but excuses and quisling quibbling for delusional people. The best solution is to nuke ourselves into annihilation/extinction. When the entitled few believe they can survive on top of the bodies of the masses history shows that the few are screwed permanently. With WMD-Drones (WMDD) and global environmental collapse today, It is in the interest of the entitled few and the bitchy many to get their shit together. Survival of the fittest is bullshit, and that which does not kill US will only make US weak cripples for scavengers.
T-Party, D-Party, R-Party, whatever/wherever-fycking-Party they are will provide varying spins on the same excuses and quisling quibbling, during and after each election. I have heard the same bullshit in the USA and every country I have been in for 40 years.
Corporations a/o religions are the root of all evil on the earth, from over-population, famine, pollution, energy, illiteracy, counterfeit-governments with proxy-governance, fear, intolerance.... Blaming the government for public stupidity and intransigence before and after every election is sickly-comical, the government is manipulated by the politicians agenda, the politicians agenda is directed by corporate interest, and the voters are the fools for believing them or gods are going to save them. If you cannot make a politician, C*O, cleric accountable to the people, then the people are just exploitable and expendable slaves of the ruling plutocrat masters. We must get our politicians to disenfranchise corporations, religion, and political-positions, then enfranchise and enable all the people within government and governance.
We US Citizens elected the mess, we gave the krap life long careers in fyckUS, and we should all shoulder the blame for our lack of responsibility to US as a People. The POTUS is new and proportionally as responsible as any other citizen for this fycking-mess.
Reagan and Bush two likable puppet-POTUS for the masses that big-biz pwned.
Only fools believe the USA is a democratic meritocracy or capitalist nation.
Education has many "Open" technology tools, content, infrastructure... available, which could provide cost effective learning experiences to all USA children that would equal any private school and rival many in the world. National standards should start with a national curriculum supported by Open/Free school books developed and approved by the top 10 or 20 major university education departments. A nation in crisis must educate children to be the best possible citizens, but in the USA we let Texas develop USA school books for most USA public schools. No wounder, why I and so many other folks are high school drop outs, and proportionally so few are not dead or in jail.
Big-biz C*Os, their politicians, and the entitled privileged have made US the joke of current history with corporate welfare, legal kick-backs-by-proxy, social-club-nepotism/bigotry.... Education economically separate but equal is a national tragedy. Military duty and national service (man, woman, gay, handicap...) when not a legal obligation, culturally inclusive, and personal responsibility indicates the dawn before the fall of the nation (Carthage, Rome, Germany...). Bring back and expand the DRAFT to include USAll as a nations of people, end the master-slave relationship.
PS - USMC@17yo1969+Honorable1971Discharge
Internet campaigns can cost far less (maybe just volunteers), and may "Virtually" negate TV/Radio time and location appearances.
This would be a good reason for the status-quoe plutocrats to advocate net-nepotism and end net neutrality.
It could be the only nails in the US Democracy and Freedoms coffin.
The 1800s... back to the telegraph, good point.
I like, but there would be a War on Wireless (WoW) users, and the prisons would be quickly filled with New-Internet criminals.
The USA only has Corporate Citizens, the human has been disenfranchised.
USA and EU Democracy is simply periodic insubstantial public fanfares, China saves millions by avoiding the public fanfare.
The "Domino Theory" has again proven to be fallacious logic. Politicians are such idiots, I am amazed we won WWII, maybe the other fools politicians were that much worse than ours. Then again, maybe currently our politicians are that much worse than ....
The letter confirms The Corporate Welfare state that replaced the Social Welfare state provides reason to stupidity.
We pay for what we get, what the government gets, what the business C*Os get, and what our government gives to business with privileges, tax breaks, civil rights, kick-backs-by-proxy....
Corporate Institutions are more enfranchised than private citizens in the USA a pure plutocracy of the entitled of Corporate American Governance.
Is it better for one to control all, all to control one, none to control all, or all to control none?
As any solution, provide sustenance that grows value, not malice and malevolence. it is better not to consider control ever.
PreDNS-IPv4, DNS, DNSSec... One for all must be all for one, because institutional/national evil lurks behind every wall for everyone.
China, Clerics, C*Os, and some others seek global economic domination with in hall mazes behind stalinist/maoist walls.
I suspect, where DNS splits occur, it will be for nazi/fascist, religion/dogma, and/or faux-capitalism/corporate-welfare governance. "The People" will be like North Korean citizens (eventually without food, shelter, rights... as goes Iran).
A Nation of "The People" has all the rights, the government/institution is never the nation and should never have rights.
It is all about "The People" and civil rights.
Just wash rinse and repeat... %~P
"Is hiding under our collective bed an option for humanity in the wider galaxy?"
Considering that, recent human history, Hitler proved to be as good about Jews, as Europeans were about all indigenous colonial people, as Pol Pot was about Cambodians. As V-POTUS George Wild Bush, Emperor Crazy Napoleon, and Mad Joe Stalin were about wasting the best Russian, French, and US Warriors in murderous personal interest ventures.
Public spectacles entertainment of Gladiator games, at least the participants are now much better paid, and far more survive their "Sport" career into early retirement with a few having regular comfortable income until death.
Considering human history..., If we ain't ready to compete in protecting our planet from ourselves by colonizing other uninhabited home-system planets, limiting population growth (by other than war) ...? Well beating back a resources consuming, global ravaging hoard of alien locus (Movie Independence Day, the enemy is very human) is very unlikely.
We will be the lambs (like US-NAP) for the slaughter, or at best an exploitable slave (like Jews) resource for politicians and C*Os trying to barter for more time to survive, all because we were to stupid to hide from the colonist looking for riches, land, and resources to plunder.
!HAVEFUN!
In a democracy or math if the proportion is 50+0.000...1 it is considered the majority of the population or sample.
In a democracy each vote has equal value; So, 100/206=0.485436893 represents the proportional weight of each vote.
IOW: 0.485436893*136=~66.02% of the population. 136 people of the 206 population does represent more than 66%.
IOW: 0.485436893*70=~33.98% of the population. 70 people of the 206 population does represent more than 33%.
66.02%+33.98*=1 a number that represents a true democracy.
No Fycking wonder dogma and software is so fycked-up. A democratic majority is 50+.000...1 percent in any population or sample.
The debate is stupid.
Each vote has an equal value.
Rounding up or down will approximate the weight of each vote.
100/206=0.485436893, the proportional value of each vote.
So, 0.485436893*136=66.02 votes per 100 people in the population of 206.
66% is correct for 136 votes in a 206 population.
Anon: "I am hoping about the same, but with a more personal-intuitive-interactive cyber-browsing option."
Art is always of great cultural value, and should be protected from heathens and christians.
Pornography is always of interest to perverts, but how do you distinguish?
For me if society (the least qualified) decides to make a law that defines an asexual baby, child, adult... picture as porno, then the picture is illegal and possibly pornographic. If the viewer identifies porno, then it may be porno, or it may be a personal psycho-sexual dysfunction caused by nurture or events.
The album cover does reflect a cultural fixation of US/EU iconoclast use of titillation to artistically (not porno) express repression or promote capitalist marketing (bad taste, but not porno).
Religious/Cultural laws should never define civil law about human sexual behavior, but the spectrum of irreligious global law ranges from murderous cristian/islam fanatics in primitive villages to major international cities round the world.
For me the rule: Art does include all human exclusive sexual activity. Art does include asexual imaging/expression of the human form. Never harm others mentally, physically, or emotionally, still (for me) does mean art should at times offend and confront the righteous indignation of others. If it harms others in the making, marketing, provoking... then it is porno, but if the making and marketing is to provide information, objects, value, entertainment, and there is no intended purpose to provoke the mentally and emotionally ill (pedophiles, necrophiliacs...) into harming themselves or others, then it cannot be pornographic (but may be illegal and should reasonably be avoided).
Yes we should protect children and people (strong law and sentences) from sexual and cultural exploitation. However, a picture of a woman graphically presented as a pre-pubescent nubile girl is art. A person (man or woman) seeking sexual gratification from such a picture or person should seek professional psychiatric help, because individuals not seeing artistic value is a problem indicator (maybe a closet pedophile) .