Where's the 30" Cinema Display? I'm still waiting on that rumor (:
This 20" iMac is interesting, but i wonder how long the arm will hold up. And as someone else has pointed out - after the Mac is obsolete you still have a very expensive monitor that can't be moved elsewhere.
I am so all about backing that up. Like, with my money, not my offline storage (:
I got half way into the tag-paragraph and had the same idea. If music from iTunes is a buck a pop, I could probably go for 2-3 $ for a music video, so long as I could tote it around and use it wherever I please. If they have bandwidth issues with that I'd additionally have no issues cueing a CD/DVD worth of videos to be burned / stamped and shipped to me. It would be even nicer if they had an automated service that burned a DVD with menu and all.
what's great is the Tablet is the Protege by Toshiba
Actually it's a Portege - we have one at work. I really like it quite a lot. There are a few software enhancements that need to be made to XP Tablet, but for a kick-start it's really quite nice. I could even go for one that is a bit thinner, has no keyboard, no hard drive, and 802.11G. Basically a thin client tablet that connects to a server and does everything "Terminal" or X-Server style. That way you additionally wouldn't have to lug around the processor and cooling. You'd get killer awesome battery life too. It would still need a simple 'cradle' style charger, though.
>>>> And, if you don't pay for them, you're existing system doesn't become any less productive or user-friendly.
You don't own a Mac do you? It's a pretty lonely world for people who don't upgrade their software. Newer Apple software packages generally require near current versions of the OS, and many other software vendors go the same route.
Additionally finding support for older versions of the operating system becomes exceedingly more difficult - and speaking of the Macintosh user community, they tend to need significant support.
No, it's not required that everyone upgrade, but it becomes rather difficult if you don't. It's not like Windows where you can still easily find support for NT4. Or Linux where you have lots of guys who can walk you through trouble shooting in anchient kernels.
>>>> Anyone else think that upgrade envy is becoming way too common, on computing platforms and elsewhere in life?
Yep, I agree. And it's not so much that they want the upgrade, but they want it NOW NOW NOW! Sure I want the upgrades and new software too, but I'd rather wait for it to be patched first. How long ago did OS X get released? And I'm just now in the middle of rolling it out to my creative department. And Windows XP, I've just recently installed Windows 2000 on all my workstations (ok, that's because I'm lazy). Upgrades are great, but bug-free upgrades are better.
If anyone does feel the need to bitch about lack of buttons in a Bluetooth mouse, they can consult the evil empire who is currently manufacturing one. Five buttons and a wheel. You can get it in a mouse or mouse / keyboard combo.
I maxed out a Dell 2650 at less than $15K, and you know an order of 600 computers is going to get your AT LEAST 25% off. Lets call it $12K per box making it a grand total of $7.2M. Where are they spending the other $31M? Floor space, power, cooling, and maintenance don't cost that much. Some tax payer in Texas is gonna be PISSED!
More things that I'm sure people will talk about: The Dells are 1U and 2U boxes designed for rack enclosures meaning they'll be more heat and power effecient not to mention they take up about 1/3 the physical space as the enormous PowerMac G5.
If VT had waited for the XServer with G5s in it they would have a better cluster. But I realize the desire to be in a big computing list with other big dogs.
And besides that if you were to mount them all on a wall it'd be way cool to look at.
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I am using my Tandy 1000 RL (circa 1989?) as a monitor stand. Oh! Better yet, I'm using an Apple Power Macintosh 6100/66 as a monitor stand at work. It's from mid 1985.
That's really cool that it's working for you. However, 6 to 10 MB/s is rather slow. I get 20MB/s with my Adaptec 1200a with two mirrored drives and that's considered poor performance.
The theoretical speed for 33mhz/32bit PCI is 132MB/s so an ATA/133 disk should be getting nearly full speed (depending on read/write method - some file systems are obviously faster than others).
The 3Ware 8 and 12 channel SATA RAID controllers are 66mhz/64bit PCI which yields speeds of 528MB/s. If you were to RAID 5 a set of eight ATA133 disks you should be able to get speeds in the hundreds of megabytes per second.
Looking at the graph on this page you'll see that the lowest reported speed is still twice as fast as yours. And the high end speeds with no redundancy are nearly 80MB/s.
I'd like to put about ten drive in my current case and a new motherboard with 64bit / 66mhz PCI slots to support that fast 3Ware RAID controller. Eight drives in RAID 5 on the 3Ware, and two drives mirrored on another card (to be named) for the system. If the drives in the RAID 5 configuration were 300GB SATA drives I'd have enough space to last me, my family, and my friends about 10 years. Woohoo! Unfortunately that would run me about $8,000 by the end of it because I'd be building from the ground up with the exception of the case, which I would probably buy knew anyway.
Wouldn't it make more sense to build a SATA RAID array? Using the 3Ware 8 channel SATA controller and a bunch of big ass Maxtor SATA drives you can get more storage for probably less cost and complication.
In short, the end user isn't learning. They're still beholden to the geeks, because as soon as the carefully orchestrated setup hits a snafu, Abbie Normal won't know how to fix that problem.
I want to take this a step further by adding...
Most consumers are of the opinion that there shouldn't be a snafu that they'd actually have to be educated for solving. They just want a button to make everything work. It can be done, but not for $15,000. There has been lots of discussion about "do we educate the user, or just build more robust products?". I think it's a function of both, but more-so we need to educate the user. After their educated and fixing their own stupid problems we can get back to our Everquest, damnit.
What about a penalty for Microsoft for being the reason behind the viruses in the first place? You can't fine granny for not patching her computer - it's unethical and just plain ignorant.
I have a slew of 733mhz computers with 128MB at the office that run Windows 2000 extremely well. My friends and I decided a while back that 600mhz is about all you need with any modern operating system. Beyond that you're just gaming.
It's a thin client, man. Web, email, word processing, maybe play some tunes or desktop games.
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Why is fax still so popular? Partly because it is a mature technology that has legal weight and
All we need to do is hack some fax machines and do bad things that break its validity in legal issues and that part will break down.
Fax is evil, mm'kay?
Where's the 30" Cinema Display? I'm still waiting on that rumor (:
This 20" iMac is interesting, but i wonder how long the arm will hold up. And as someone else has pointed out - after the Mac is obsolete you still have a very expensive monitor that can't be moved elsewhere.
I am so all about backing that up. Like, with my money, not my offline storage (:
I got half way into the tag-paragraph and had the same idea. If music from iTunes is a buck a pop, I could probably go for 2-3 $ for a music video, so long as I could tote it around and use it wherever I please. If they have bandwidth issues with that I'd additionally have no issues cueing a CD/DVD worth of videos to be burned / stamped and shipped to me. It would be even nicer if they had an automated service that burned a DVD with menu and all.
Man that'd be pimp-tastic.
what's great is the Tablet is the Protege by Toshiba
Actually it's a Portege - we have one at work. I really like it quite a lot. There are a few software enhancements that need to be made to XP Tablet, but for a kick-start it's really quite nice. I could even go for one that is a bit thinner, has no keyboard, no hard drive, and 802.11G. Basically a thin client tablet that connects to a server and does everything "Terminal" or X-Server style. That way you additionally wouldn't have to lug around the processor and cooling. You'd get killer awesome battery life too. It would still need a simple 'cradle' style charger, though.
Tables are cool - they just need a little work.
Homestar Runner has stencils for anyone who is a fan without creativity in their body.
... yeah ...
My girlfriend thinks they're cute
So you're saying that Mac users have to upgrade because of peer pressure?
... No you fucking moron. Lack of software and technical support. Read the fucking post.
LOL
>>>> And, if you don't pay for them, you're existing system doesn't become any less productive or user-friendly.
You don't own a Mac do you? It's a pretty lonely world for people who don't upgrade their software. Newer Apple software packages generally require near current versions of the OS, and many other software vendors go the same route.
Additionally finding support for older versions of the operating system becomes exceedingly more difficult - and speaking of the Macintosh user community, they tend to need significant support.
No, it's not required that everyone upgrade, but it becomes rather difficult if you don't. It's not like Windows where you can still easily find support for NT4. Or Linux where you have lots of guys who can walk you through trouble shooting in anchient kernels.
>>>> Anyone else think that upgrade envy is becoming way too common, on computing platforms and elsewhere in life?
Yep, I agree. And it's not so much that they want the upgrade, but they want it NOW NOW NOW! Sure I want the upgrades and new software too, but I'd rather wait for it to be patched first. How long ago did OS X get released? And I'm just now in the middle of rolling it out to my creative department. And Windows XP, I've just recently installed Windows 2000 on all my workstations (ok, that's because I'm lazy). Upgrades are great, but bug-free upgrades are better.
After all, it's $100, for a mouse, are they INSANE or what?
... $70?, for a one button non rechargable mouse.
Apple wants, what is
Music sharing between OSX & XP works like a charm, even with dynamic playlists
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AWESOME! So my mixed network at work of 55 - 60 Windows 2000 and Mac OS X computers should play nice
Actually the client runs like ASS on the G5. Wait for the new code, then break in and let that puppy run wild (:
If anyone does feel the need to bitch about lack of buttons in a Bluetooth mouse, they can consult the evil empire who is currently manufacturing one. Five buttons and a wheel. You can get it in a mouse or mouse / keyboard combo.
Additionally Logitech is onboard if you don't want to go the way of Apple or Microsoft. Their mouse has more buttons (:
I maxed out a Dell 2650 at less than $15K, and you know an order of 600 computers is going to get your AT LEAST 25% off. Lets call it $12K per box making it a grand total of $7.2M. Where are they spending the other $31M? Floor space, power, cooling, and maintenance don't cost that much. Some tax payer in Texas is gonna be PISSED!
And I'm sure UT got one heck of a deal from Dell.
More things that I'm sure people will talk about: The Dells are 1U and 2U boxes designed for rack enclosures meaning they'll be more heat and power effecient not to mention they take up about 1/3 the physical space as the enormous PowerMac G5.
If VT had waited for the XServer with G5s in it they would have a better cluster. But I realize the desire to be in a big computing list with other big dogs.
And besides that if you were to mount them all on a wall it'd be way cool to look at.
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I am using my Tandy 1000 RL (circa 1989?) as a monitor stand. Oh! Better yet, I'm using an Apple Power Macintosh 6100/66 as a monitor stand at work. It's from mid 1985.
Both are in daily use and serving quite well.
So what do you think of the Panasonic Gamecube? It's more than a game console and a major manufacturer is producing it.
Who is this Shawn Fanning person? We all know Lyle is the true creator of Napster! He is after all ... The Napster.
I mean, what the hell. Make it 4x as large and 10x as clumbsey. Must be a second cousin to this guy - the Civic mod .
That's really cool that it's working for you. However, 6 to 10 MB/s is rather slow. I get 20MB/s with my Adaptec 1200a with two mirrored drives and that's considered poor performance.
The theoretical speed for 33mhz/32bit PCI is 132MB/s so an ATA/133 disk should be getting nearly full speed (depending on read/write method - some file systems are obviously faster than others).
The 3Ware 8 and 12 channel SATA RAID controllers are 66mhz/64bit PCI which yields speeds of 528MB/s. If you were to RAID 5 a set of eight ATA133 disks you should be able to get speeds in the hundreds of megabytes per second.
Looking at the graph on this page you'll see that the lowest reported speed is still twice as fast as yours. And the high end speeds with no redundancy are nearly 80MB/s.
I'd like to put about ten drive in my current case and a new motherboard with 64bit / 66mhz PCI slots to support that fast 3Ware RAID controller. Eight drives in RAID 5 on the 3Ware, and two drives mirrored on another card (to be named) for the system. If the drives in the RAID 5 configuration were 300GB SATA drives I'd have enough space to last me, my family, and my friends about 10 years. Woohoo! Unfortunately that would run me about $8,000 by the end of it because I'd be building from the ground up with the exception of the case, which I would probably buy knew anyway.
Wouldn't it make more sense to build a SATA RAID array? Using the 3Ware 8 channel SATA controller and a bunch of big ass Maxtor SATA drives you can get more storage for probably less cost and complication.
What if I fart? Does the rumble throw off the sensor?
... what if this is a really dumb idea? It won't sell ...
What if I'm "gettin` it on"? Does it automatically play Barry White music?
What if my cat gets on the furnature? Does it spray it with water and say "Bad kitty!"?
What if
In short, the end user isn't learning. They're still beholden to the geeks, because as soon as the carefully orchestrated setup hits a snafu, Abbie Normal won't know how to fix that problem.
...
I want to take this a step further by adding
Most consumers are of the opinion that there shouldn't be a snafu that they'd actually have to be educated for solving. They just want a button to make everything work. It can be done, but not for $15,000. There has been lots of discussion about "do we educate the user, or just build more robust products?". I think it's a function of both, but more-so we need to educate the user. After their educated and fixing their own stupid problems we can get back to our Everquest, damnit.
What about a penalty for Microsoft for being the reason behind the viruses in the first place? You can't fine granny for not patching her computer - it's unethical and just plain ignorant.
I have a slew of 733mhz computers with 128MB at the office that run Windows 2000 extremely well. My friends and I decided a while back that 600mhz is about all you need with any modern operating system. Beyond that you're just gaming.
It's a thin client, man. Web, email, word processing, maybe play some tunes or desktop games.