Legally, they are posted in a public forum, so they can be quoted. They are not indentified however. Please read my other comments for more information.
Actually, I answered that - three times already. Anyway: Yes-it does include comments. No, there are no indentiying characteristics. That would be illegal to do without permission. I attempted to contact the initial rounds of people, and meet with such dismal success that we went to just quoting from the public forum.
Correct answers from Jim - and once we figure this whole thing (It's been a whirlwind to put together), I think we could look at having the community decide charity proceds.
It is a selective compilation - but no indentifying marks have been used. Comments posted in a public forum, while the responsibility of the poster, can be quoted by anyone.
Anyone can do it. That's the nature of publishing comments into a public forum - legally, you are responsible for what you say, but people can pull them.
1. No. They are not identified in a way that allows for any sort of indentification of them.
2. For those who posted in a public forum, they were not consulted. We had considered tracking down people, but my inital test run of trying to track down people went so terribly, we gave up. You'd be amazed how many people change e-mail addresses in a year.
3. Fair amount of new material, but a lot of is edited material that draws all the columns together. The text, when printed, should be about 200, I think, although we don't have the final number back yet. We tried to go cheaper for the book, but the cost of paper is/really/ high, and the cover is expensive. At some point, we will probably do a cheaper version, but not for at least six months.
4. The reality, in terms, of paying people is that the book wouldn't happen at that point. The amount of time that would have added to things would have made the book impossible. Besides, the amount of actual quoting from people, once the rest is considered is/very tiny/ on a person person basis.
5. We tried to deal with the Amazon thing, but you can't stop them from ordering for a resaler. Once something has entered the ISBN system, anyone can order it. However, at this time, we're only selling it through Amazon. As far as funds collected at this time, Katz is not taking money, I'm not taking any - we have to pay for the cost of making the book and the editor, but besides that, nada.
We've actually kept many of the controversial ones, specifically because I think they have a message to convey. I hope we've been able to portray the situation accurately - heaven knows i've spent enough time reading and re-reading it.;)
Ya know, Sig11, I would have thought with your posting record you'd have seen my answer on this before.
I *don't want* negative reviews. Only if something is really terrible and I think people might buy it, will I post negative book reviews. But there's only a couple book reviews a week and several hundred books released of interest each month - so you do the month.
Perhaps before impugning integrity you could simply ask the question? We don't have any deal with the book sellers, beyond the affiliateship. And if I had more people to write book reviews, I'd post more reviews. But most readers aren't real anxious to write reviews so....
I've been getting back into the swing of things. Things got a bit busy there, but I'm back now, and want to post in the stuff that grabs me, and help correct some of the....most intesting assumptions people have.
That said, also keep an eye for the fake hemos, hemos. I loooovvee 31337 trollZ.
If we really wanted to do that, we'd post every frickin' Microsoft article we got. Those generate far more hits than Katz does, and cost nothing. Instead, I grit my teeth ever time I have to post a MS thing.
...I can assure you that, yes, they do listen. However, they've gotten the impression that Linux users can't be pleased, don't want to pay for anything, and are self-righteous. I've tried to do advocacy at that level, which usually helps. But yes, petitions and unified, *polite* fronts are the best way to do it - individuals create too much of an impression of whining for whining's sake.
I think that one of the most valuable places for Linux to continue to grow is the academic setting. Not in terms of profesors, but in terms of students using it - beyond the CS/Eng. departments. With distributions like the U-M of one, and it sounds like other unis are doing it as well, we can make our case clear to the general population. Linux is more stable, faster, and does everything that you need. With easy-to-setup packages for students, students don't have to muck with areas they don't know about, schools can admin networks more easily. The older generation is pretty set in with Windows - let's co-opt the younger entirely.
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Read above post - they are not pulled verbatim. I'm sorry that people think that's what we're doing - it's a book. It tells a broad story.
Legally, they are posted in a public forum, so they can be quoted. They are not indentified however. Please read my other comments for more information.
Actually, I answered that - three times already. Anyway: Yes-it does include comments. No, there are no indentiying characteristics. That would be illegal to do without permission. I attempted to contact the initial rounds of people, and meet with such dismal success that we went to just quoting from the public forum.
No, it will not include all the comments - we took a look at /everything/ that we had, and edited from there.
Correct answers from Jim - and once we figure this whole thing (It's been a whirlwind to put together), I think we could look at having the community decide charity proceds.
It is a selective compilation - but no indentifying marks have been used. Comments posted in a public forum, while the responsibility of the poster, can be quoted by anyone.
Everyone is anonymous. No indentifying characteristics used - that crosses privacy boundaries I'm not willing to cross.
Anyone can do it. That's the nature of publishing comments into a public forum - legally, you are responsible for what you say, but people can pull them.
1. No. They are not identified in a way that allows for any sort of indentification of them.
/really/ high, and the cover is expensive. At some point, we will probably do a cheaper version, but not for at least six months.
/very tiny/ on a person person basis.
2. For those who posted in a public forum, they were not consulted. We had considered tracking down people, but my inital test run of trying to track down people went so terribly, we gave up. You'd be amazed how many people change e-mail addresses in a year.
3. Fair amount of new material, but a lot of is edited material that draws all the columns together. The text, when printed, should be about 200, I think, although we don't have the final number back yet. We tried to go cheaper for the book, but the cost of paper is
4. The reality, in terms, of paying people is that the book wouldn't happen at that point. The amount of time that would have added to things would have made the book impossible. Besides, the amount of actual quoting from people, once the rest is considered is
5. We tried to deal with the Amazon thing, but you can't stop them from ordering for a resaler. Once something has entered the ISBN system, anyone can order it. However, at this time, we're only selling it through Amazon. As far as funds collected at this time, Katz is not taking money, I'm not taking any - we have to pay for the cost of making the book and the editor, but besides that, nada.
We've actually kept many of the controversial ones, specifically because I think they have a message to convey. I hope we've been able to portray the situation accurately - heaven knows i've spent enough time reading and re-reading it. ;)
We may eBook it eventually, but not for the time being - no good clients exist with broad support yet.
It was a duplicate story.
It's kind of like Gremlins, huh? *grin*
I *don't want* negative reviews. Only if something is really terrible and I think people might buy it, will I post negative book reviews. But there's only a couple book reviews a week and several hundred books released of interest each month - so you do the month.
Perhaps before impugning integrity you could simply ask the question? We don't have any deal with the book sellers, beyond the affiliateship. And if I had more people to write book reviews, I'd post more reviews. But most readers aren't real anxious to write reviews so....
Excellent point - honestly. Weekends typically have no news, and if we did anything real today, no one would believe. So - here we are.
This is a joke - for Apri Fool's Day. Look at the dates leading up to it.
That's because .com was taken, and everyone else was already doing .coms.
this still means only 1 post per word of average Jon Katz story :) :) :)
timothy
If you think moderation sucks, than login, and meta-moderate. That's how bad moderators are weeded out from the system.
the moderation system broke for a couple days - but is catching up now. We've got a couple things - please bear with for just a touch longer.
That said, also keep an eye for the fake hemos, hemos. I loooovvee 31337 trollZ.
If we really wanted to do that, we'd post every frickin' Microsoft article we got. Those generate far more hits than Katz does, and cost nothing. Instead, I grit my teeth ever time I have to post a MS thing.
Disregard this post - this is not from VA Linux. This is called FALSE ADVERTISING AND LIBEL.
...I can assure you that, yes, they do listen. However, they've gotten the impression that Linux users can't be pleased, don't want to pay for anything, and are self-righteous. I've tried to do advocacy at that level, which usually helps. But yes, petitions and unified, *polite* fronts are the best way to do it - individuals create too much of an impression of whining for whining's sake.
I think that one of the most valuable places for Linux to continue to grow is the academic setting. Not in terms of profesors, but in terms of students using it - beyond the CS/Eng. departments. With distributions like the U-M of one, and it sounds like other unis are doing it as well, we can make our case clear to the general population. Linux is more stable, faster, and does everything that you need. With easy-to-setup packages for students, students don't have to muck with areas they don't know about, schools can admin networks more easily. The older generation is pretty set in with Windows - let's co-opt the younger entirely.
Try reading this:7 221&mode=thread
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/03/31/013