The reason I trust that my neighbor will not murder me in my sleep is that I trust society at large to enact retribution (prison time) on my behalf.
No, you don't. The reason you trust your neighbor is because you have faith that he has learned that killing you is wrong. I'm pretty sure you're not willing to sacrifice your life thinking that the society will punish him/her.
Mathematical algorithms that have not been reduced to some type of practical application have been held to be unpatentable. However, a claim to a system or method that recites a mathematical algorithm and produces "a useful, concrete and tangible result" may be patentable.
So if the CODEC is not an abstract idea, they are patenting their implementation. Is AT&T does not find MS is using the same source code (machine) they have no case??????
In conclusion, the system DOES allow abstract mathematical ideas to be patented..period.
Hey hey.....please stop. I do get upset when someone pretends to limit our right to illustration. It would be probably worse to control the information than anything else.
Believe me, if you're not illustrated and you're unaware, you might as well not care about all that sort of things (pollution, toxic waste, weapons). The power to exert propaganda into the population is far worse than any isolated toxic-waste-throwing company.
It was once stupid that MS could dominate the OS space: "look, there's PC DOS, DR DOS, CP/M, MacOS, and eventually we'll be using some kind of UNIX". Look what happened (well, they were partially right on the UNIX thing, only they expected it in 1986, not 1996)
It was once stupid that MS could dominate the application space: "look, there's Quattro Pro, Ami Pro, WordPerfect, Lotus 123, Paradox....Netscape... all of them are BETTER than the MS alternative" Look what happened.
I don't see why the Internet could be any different. Customers are clueless. For them, the Internet is that nifty little AOL or whatever icon you click, as well as explorer.
When I first read the headline, I thought ccTLD referred to the.cc TLD (which is Coco Island, a convenience NIc that has been issuing domains for a while now).
The fact that the.cc TLD NIC is breaking with ICANN is really not much important. But the WHOLE country code TLDs disagreeing is really serious.
Perhaps Michael could make the headline clearer and get the discussion going.
Hugo
-- Never forget this is Slashdot and many people just don't read the article
c'mon....I'm just throwing away my PII 300 Laptop with 3GB HD......
Really, this machine was a gift and I still use it for everything (Slackware Linux, KDE, Staoffice!, web, coding, etc) PROCESSOR SPEED IS OVERRATED, I just invested 80 USD into it by putting in a 128MB DIMM and I still hope ti use it for a couple of years...no MS Office to deal with
I used to have spam for dinner (nearly everyday)in Venezuela when I was about 13 years old. I liked it fried with lettuce and tomato. GOD how we preteens used to punish our poor bodies. =/
Hugo
This is permisive rather than restrictive
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You have to taake into consideration the main purpose of the license, which is to produce free software that stays free. One of the best stimulus for spreading software is to allow someone to profit from it.
This aspect of the GPL should not be viewed in the restrictive sense, but taking into consideration that "this software must stay Free, however, we do not keep anyone from making commercial use and distribution" They could as well have included a "non-commercial only clause" and so "Linux" distributors could not make a living by selling CD's, they would have to give them away, which prevents success for Free Software.
I believe he FSF saw this coming from the very beginning, that's why they came up with the LGPL. Vidori claims that they have released all the changes they've made to the GPLed code itself (the DLL) but those are exactly the term of the LGPL, no the bare GPL.
but as well as we have CLUELESS bureaucrats deciding on the breakup of MS, we could have the same clueless people making free software illegal because it's unamerican or something. We need to fight again this kind of control..not only again MS.
Actually, your cells don't explode if you're frozen fast enough. It's the ice crystals that harm the cell's structure. That's why you can't freeze vegetables at home and have them as crisp as commercial, fast-freezed ones.
Sure, everyone is free to hack away at the code, but no Joe Hacker ever gets the media attention that Sun and HP get when they say they're putting big bucks on Gnome. The media is ruthless and we have to ensure that coding aspects will not pale in comparison to marketing.
Marketing truly can remove freedom from us, you just have to read back a little, seeing how Linux is suddenly RedHat; software vendors and corporations could be making it that way Linux=RedHat...where is our freedom?
You just have to get a Byte Magazine from 198something and you'll see (I saw it myself) that Gates' stratgy was to enforce the use of DOS in the low end and extend XENIX for use in the high end...
I guess some of us in countries other than the United States sometimes see Americans as a reflex of those big corps. Reading through some of the comments I see how far this is from the truth.
I believe we cannot trust government or corps, just the citizens, the good people out there, just like you and I.
Greetings to US Citizens fo their Independence Day
If you buy your NICs at CompUSA...probably not. If you just look around a bit, there are Cyclades, Sangomas and many noname T1 cards (get a LinuxJournal and lookup the adds)
IT managers such as the one you describe (hope it's not you) were the who-are-you-gonna-sue-if-it-breaks-please-buy-NT types who couldn't bear Linux in the bussiness...do I see a pattern here???
Only the owner of the original copyright of the program has the right to release a fork of the program under a different license, so:
If your work in the program in worktime belongs to the company, they're not the original copyright holders and MUST conform to the license under which they got the program, that is GPL.
If your work belongs to you, your company can't force you not to release them with the GPL.
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No, you don't. The reason you trust your neighbor is because you have faith that he has learned that killing you is wrong. I'm pretty sure you're not willing to sacrifice your life thinking that the society will punish him/her.
Mathematical algorithms that have not been reduced to some type of practical application have been held to be unpatentable. However, a claim to a system or method that recites a mathematical algorithm and produces "a useful, concrete and tangible result" may be patentable.
So if the CODEC is not an abstract idea, they are patenting their implementation. Is AT&T does not find MS is using the same source code (machine) they have no case??????
In conclusion, the system DOES allow abstract mathematical ideas to be patented..period.
I just headed to thees.org to get my little mozilla theme and it seems it has been overloaded by the Moz.91 and slashdot...cool
Hey hey.....please stop. I do get upset when someone pretends to limit our right to illustration. It would be probably worse to control the information than anything else.
Believe me, if you're not illustrated and you're unaware, you might as well not care about all that sort of things (pollution, toxic waste, weapons). The power to exert propaganda into the population is far worse than any isolated toxic-waste-throwing company.
Guess who's getting that power....
Yeah, right.
It was once stupid that MS could dominate the OS space: "look, there's PC DOS, DR DOS, CP/M, MacOS, and eventually we'll be using some kind of UNIX". Look what happened (well, they were partially right on the UNIX thing, only they expected it in 1986, not 1996)
It was once stupid that MS could dominate the application space: "look, there's Quattro Pro, Ami Pro, WordPerfect, Lotus 123, Paradox....Netscape... all of them are BETTER than the MS alternative" Look what happened.
I don't see why the Internet could be any different. Customers are clueless. For them, the Internet is that nifty little AOL or whatever icon you click, as well as explorer.
Just my two céntimos
Hugo
When I first read the headline, I thought ccTLD referred to the .cc TLD (which is Coco Island, a convenience NIc that has been issuing domains for a while now).
.cc TLD NIC is breaking with ICANN is really not much important. But the WHOLE country code TLDs disagreeing is really serious.
The fact that the
Perhaps Michael could make the headline clearer and get the discussion going.
Hugo
-- Never forget this is Slashdot and many people just don't read the article
c'mon ....I'm just throwing away my PII 300 Laptop with 3GB HD......
Really, this machine was a gift and I still use it for everything (Slackware Linux, KDE, Staoffice!, web, coding, etc) PROCESSOR SPEED IS OVERRATED, I just invested 80 USD into it by putting in a 128MB DIMM and I still hope ti use it for a couple of years...no MS Office to deal with
I used to have spam for dinner (nearly everyday)in Venezuela when I was about 13 years old. I liked it fried with lettuce and tomato. GOD how we preteens used to punish our poor bodies. =/
Hugo
You have to taake into consideration the main purpose of the license, which is to produce free software that stays free. One of the best stimulus for spreading software is to allow someone to profit from it.
This aspect of the GPL should not be viewed in the restrictive sense, but taking into consideration that "this software must stay Free, however, we do not keep anyone from making commercial use and distribution" They could as well have included a "non-commercial only clause" and so "Linux" distributors could not make a living by selling CD's, they would have to give them away, which prevents success for Free Software.
I believe he FSF saw this coming from the very beginning, that's why they came up with the LGPL. Vidori claims that they have released all the changes they've made to the GPLed code itself (the DLL) but those are exactly the term of the LGPL, no the bare GPL.
Sorry I'm a fanatic, but "Closed Source" sounds so harmless.
Please say "Proprietary Software" as it whould be....
Hugo
Ever heard of Free Software??, it's like a big bull with two great horns on top.
www.gnu.org
I believe you tried to say: "Who is IN England this week" ...
Hugo
Do we have a precedent here....OpenStove? Gotta name a buch of code after this..
Hugonz
Well, they just got the string that identifies mp3's that Joe User automatically rips and renames using CDDB. That's enough, isn't it?
Hugo
but as well as we have CLUELESS bureaucrats deciding on the breakup of MS, we could have the same clueless people making free software illegal because it's unamerican or something. We need to fight again this kind of control..not only again MS.
Hugo
Well, for a webmail software that uses the UNIX spools directly, you could try Neomail. neomail.sourceforge.net
Hugo
O yeah! That's one IS called Apple Computer (or XEROX PARC, for the purist)
But you must be wrong...they CAN innovate.
go get a read at www.asktog.com
Actually, your cells don't explode if you're frozen fast enough. It's the ice crystals that harm the cell's structure. That's why you can't freeze vegetables at home and have them as crisp as commercial, fast-freezed ones.
Hugo
You're a noname...he's Geccoman, I'm Hugonz and I run Slack
clap, clap, clap
Sure, everyone is free to hack away at the code, but no Joe Hacker ever gets the media attention that Sun and HP get when they say they're putting big bucks on Gnome. The media is ruthless and we have to ensure that coding aspects will not pale in comparison to marketing.
Marketing truly can remove freedom from us, you just have to read back a little, seeing how Linux is suddenly RedHat; software vendors and corporations could be making it that way Linux=RedHat...where is our freedom?
Hugonz
MS was in fact a Unix shop...remember XENIX??
You just have to get a Byte Magazine from 198something and you'll see (I saw it myself) that Gates' stratgy was to enforce the use of DOS in the low end and extend XENIX for use in the high end...
Just read it...
I guess some of us in countries other than the United States sometimes see Americans as a reflex of those big corps. Reading through some of the comments I see how far this is from the truth.
I believe we cannot trust government or corps, just the citizens, the good people out there, just like you and I.
Greetings to US Citizens fo their Independence Day
PS: Mine is tomorrow (5 jul)
Hugonz
If you buy your NICs at CompUSA...probably not. If you just look around a bit, there are Cyclades, Sangomas and many noname T1 cards (get a LinuxJournal and lookup the adds)
IT managers such as the one you describe (hope it's not you) were the who-are-you-gonna-sue-if-it-breaks-please-buy-NT types who couldn't bear Linux in the bussiness...do I see a pattern here???
Hugonz
This is coool:
Only the owner of the original copyright of the program has the right to release a fork of the program under a different license, so:
If your work in the program in worktime belongs to the company, they're not the original copyright holders and MUST conform to the license under which they got the program, that is GPL.
If your work belongs to you, your company can't force you not to release them with the GPL.
I think the case is pretty much won...
Hugonz