" buying at $5.70 from the little guy and selling at $6 -" I don't understand, if this is the case that there is someone selling at 57 and someone is willing to buy at 60, the market should just clear instantaneously. Why do you need HFT then?
<blockquote>We still have the power in the Constitution </blockquote>
LOL.
No, seriously. You are the only one in this conversation that is brainwashed enough to believe that a magical parchment gives you any power against the people who interpret the parchment. Constitution schmonstitution, if they want you in a cage, that's where you'll find yourself waving your fist at a cloud while you get penetrated by Bubba. You know this, and you hate it, because it's the truth.
I honestly wish Slashdot would stop posting stuff about Bitcoin.
Every time you guys get together to "talk" about Bitcoin, the amount of lies and outright retarded shit that comes out of your mouths is simply off the charts. It makes Something Awful look like a highly developed children's playground in comparison. I have read every single lie there is to say about Bitcoin, in triplicate, here. Everything from Ponzi to scam to ayayay deflationary spiral to fucking libertarians I wish they were murdered (seriously, in Slashdot?). It is not even fun to show you reality anymore.
I used to like this place, but now it is so irrelevant and so dominated by angry retards, it is not even worth the read, cos I just know I will be confronted with losers who did not buy in at $2 and are bitter and hateful about it.
Bitcoiners do not need you. You are obsolete. Keep your greenbacks, enjoy losing your savings every day, and don't ask for help when the chickens come home to roost. Get lost, seriously.
You would rather keep your money vulnerable to being stolen by strangers, who are by and large the most corrupt people in your society (checked their criminal records lately? how about the scandals on the papers?), and this is supposed to protect it from being corrupt?
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Such religious nonsense! It's like I'm watching a person say they must allow pederast priests to have access to their priests, to prevent the Holy Church from becoming corrupt.
Fine, if you want your money to be stolen -- either by tax or by inflation -- it's your money. You'll be the poorer person. Enjoy.
Finally there is a way for people to safely do things that their rulers prohibited them to do.
Quote me on this: I consider that to be social progress.
Of course, those who would, in other times, have said that "slavery is okay because it is legal" or "women are chattel because the law says so", would disagree with us. That's okay. Old age takes them and their Bible, erm, Law thumping ways to the grave. In other words, the theory that, "just because some control freak strangers wrote some magical papers forbidding the peasants from doing certain things, these peasants must be punished if they do them", will inevitably perish with its supporters, like the Phlogiston theory also did.
Too slow for my taste, but that's how progress is made.
I note how the guy clamoring jail for Bitcoin users who do things prohibited to him gets 2 votes. I also note how you, who have a sensible comment defending acts that are "illegal" but not wrong, get a score of 0.
It does, for people who know 0.1% of what they use, but believe they know 90% and have strong opinions (that would be the person you are replying to). GIVE HIM DA CODEZ TO HACK! Hahaha!
Twenty years ago, the shell creators gave you the ability to enclose $VARIABLES in "$QUOTES". Methinks you BELIEVE you know how to script bash, but you have not really learned anything beyond typing commands in an interactive shell. Shell quoting is just so fundamentally obvious and they are mentioned so early in the bash manual, I have a REALLY HARD time believing you are a competent software developer (unless you program mirc scripts or in visual basic).
Unfortunately, whether risk is a common or an individual good (two hypotheses for which you have not presented any evidence, and no, "cheaper if everybody pays for it" is not evidence of risk being a common good), is not the reason why health care is mandatory.
Or you could just use ZFS in RAIDZ or mirroring mode, and say goodbye to expensive hardware, since ZFS is always consistent on-disk and can be quickly scrubbed, regardless of what power catastrophes you get.
Wrong. If someone orders you to do something without your previous -- explicit -- consent, and you have no say in the matter and are forced to comply, then you're a slave.
Yes, yet another way in which the government intrudes with a feel-good yet useless restriction that is naturally enforced with a very clear threat of violence.
Now people who *really* are predators will be even more encouraged to continue their task, safe in the knowledge that their camera and telephoto lenses won't make a click loud enough for their victims to detect. Let's face it -- if someone is close enough to you that the click will alert you, then either you're as good as dead, or there wasn't much of a threat in the first place.
I like this world more and more with each passing day.
...but my only concern is this: using violence to drag a human being into a rape hole, for duplicating a few bits and bytes, is immoral.
And we are all the poorer for living in a society so corrupt that this is regarded as not just legal, not just condoned by us, but also the blessed course of action.
Please do. I understand that "government" cannot be evil because it doesn't exist -- government's just a bunch of people with guns -- but there's an undeniably good case against the evil shit those people with guns do day-to-day. What's more, corrupt as well, since they ostensibly do all that evil shit for our own benefit. With OUR money.
> But nor do I see the need to assume that everything government does is evil.
Well, for starters, taxation. Rant and babble all you want about the supposed benefits of taxation, it is still robbery and it is not just evil but (since they sell it to you as something *good*) corrupt as well. And if taxation is the basis of government (which it is), well, the rest is pretty much... well, yes, evil.
Slashdot Mirror
See http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1m6twq/no_way_to_reproduce_some_key_numbers_used_in_the/cc6bfqb
:-)
" buying at $5.70 from the little guy and selling at $6 -" I don't understand, if this is the case that there is someone selling at 57 and someone is willing to buy at 60, the market should just clear instantaneously. Why do you need HFT then?
Gox was not hacked. It was DDoSed. If you know the difference, you understand how your level of trust in Gox should not diminish.
I don't personally use Gox, but let's not lose track of reality here.
Agreed.
<blockquote>We still have the power in the Constitution </blockquote>
LOL.
No, seriously. You are the only one in this conversation that is brainwashed enough to believe that a magical parchment gives you any power against the people who interpret the parchment. Constitution schmonstitution, if they want you in a cage, that's where you'll find yourself waving your fist at a cloud while you get penetrated by Bubba. You know this, and you hate it, because it's the truth.
I honestly wish Slashdot would stop posting stuff about Bitcoin.
Every time you guys get together to "talk" about Bitcoin, the amount of lies and outright retarded shit that comes out of your mouths is simply off the charts. It makes Something Awful look like a highly developed children's playground in comparison. I have read every single lie there is to say about Bitcoin, in triplicate, here. Everything from Ponzi to scam to ayayay deflationary spiral to fucking libertarians I wish they were murdered (seriously, in Slashdot?). It is not even fun to show you reality anymore.
I used to like this place, but now it is so irrelevant and so dominated by angry retards, it is not even worth the read, cos I just know I will be confronted with losers who did not buy in at $2 and are bitter and hateful about it.
Bitcoiners do not need you. You are obsolete. Keep your greenbacks, enjoy losing your savings every day, and don't ask for help when the chickens come home to roost. Get lost, seriously.
You would rather keep your money vulnerable to being stolen by strangers, who are by and large the most corrupt people in your society (checked their criminal records lately? how about the scandals on the papers?), and this is supposed to protect it from being corrupt?
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Such religious nonsense! It's like I'm watching a person say they must allow pederast priests to have access to their priests, to prevent the Holy Church from becoming corrupt.
Fine, if you want your money to be stolen -- either by tax or by inflation -- it's your money. You'll be the poorer person. Enjoy.
Very good point.
Finally there is a way for people to safely do things that their rulers prohibited them to do.
Quote me on this: I consider that to be social progress.
Of course, those who would, in other times, have said that "slavery is okay because it is legal" or "women are chattel because the law says so", would disagree with us. That's okay. Old age takes them and their Bible, erm, Law thumping ways to the grave. In other words, the theory that, "just because some control freak strangers wrote some magical papers forbidding the peasants from doing certain things, these peasants must be punished if they do them", will inevitably perish with its supporters, like the Phlogiston theory also did.
Too slow for my taste, but that's how progress is made.
I note how the guy clamoring jail for Bitcoin users who do things prohibited to him gets 2 votes. I also note how you, who have a sensible comment defending acts that are "illegal" but not wrong, get a score of 0.
Fascism is everywhere. My God.
...does it run Linux? ;-D
It does, for people who know 0.1% of what they use, but believe they know 90% and have strong opinions (that would be the person you are replying to). GIVE HIM DA CODEZ TO HACK! Hahaha!
Twenty years ago, the shell creators gave you the ability to enclose $VARIABLES in "$QUOTES". Methinks you BELIEVE you know how to script bash, but you have not really learned anything beyond typing commands in an interactive shell. Shell quoting is just so fundamentally obvious and they are mentioned so early in the bash manual, I have a REALLY HARD time believing you are a competent software developer (unless you program mirc scripts or in visual basic).
Unfortunately, whether risk is a common or an individual good (two hypotheses for which you have not presented any evidence, and no, "cheaper if everybody pays for it" is not evidence of risk being a common good), is not the reason why health care is mandatory.
Build your array with ZFS. Back it up incrementally and atomically with zfs send / zfs receive.
Or you could just use ZFS in RAIDZ or mirroring mode, and say goodbye to expensive hardware, since ZFS is always consistent on-disk and can be quickly scrubbed, regardless of what power catastrophes you get.
I wrote something apropos your comment.
Wrong. If someone orders you to do something without your previous -- explicit -- consent, and you have no say in the matter and are forced to comply, then you're a slave.
Yes, yet another way in which the government intrudes with a feel-good yet useless restriction that is naturally enforced with a very clear threat of violence.
Now people who *really* are predators will be even more encouraged to continue their task, safe in the knowledge that their camera and telephoto lenses won't make a click loud enough for their victims to detect. Let's face it -- if someone is close enough to you that the click will alert you, then either you're as good as dead, or there wasn't much of a threat in the first place.
I like this world more and more with each passing day.
It would not be ironic. It would be fair.
...but my only concern is this: using violence to drag a human being into a rape hole, for duplicating a few bits and bytes, is immoral.
And we are all the poorer for living in a society so corrupt that this is regarded as not just legal, not just condoned by us, but also the blessed course of action.
Three hurras for House M.D. and the Comedy Central lineup!
> I don't think the NSA or MI666 has super-secret technology way ahead of current research),
Ahem, the NSA had multiparty voice recognition with automatic agent discernment on phone-line quality audio... IN THE 1980's.
> I am not claiming that the government is evil.
Please do. I understand that "government" cannot be evil because it doesn't exist -- government's just a bunch of people with guns -- but there's an undeniably good case against the evil shit those people with guns do day-to-day. What's more, corrupt as well, since they ostensibly do all that evil shit for our own benefit. With OUR money.
> But nor do I see the need to assume that everything government does is evil.
Well, for starters, taxation. Rant and babble all you want about the supposed benefits of taxation, it is still robbery and it is not just evil but (since they sell it to you as something *good*) corrupt as well. And if taxation is the basis of government (which it is), well, the rest is pretty much... well, yes, evil.
> Until there's clear evidence that they intend to do evil with their ill-gotten power I'm less worried than I would otherwise be.
Actually, they are *already* doing evil.