A desktop LCD panel is still something like $200+ for a 14" XGA and is about the size of my laptop. How do you propose to fit an entire system, including slim DVD, slim hard drive, CPU (don't forget the heat sink!), RAM (SODIMM at that) and a LiOn battery into that at same cabinet size for $500 using current prices?
I doubt an individual can make a full-featured briefcase computer for that much.
BTW: There's no need to "toggle" speeds using a switch. There are applets to change a mobile CPU's speed dynamically.
I think it just depends on what the designers want and what the suppliers can deliver.
If VIA makes a system-on-a-chip before any ARM fab can, and still deliver acceptable performance (in terms of speed, power consumption, IO, etc) then I'd say VIA would clearly win a round in terms of market share.
I think it's good that VIA is trying to be flexible and make powerful enough chips to do anything an embedded designer or a low-end computer house needs.
The more competition the better we the consumers are at getting the best products.
That depends. If competition becomes about who can cut the most corners and deliver the best price, the consumers sometimes lose there too. For example, consumer electronics used last decades but it seems that three years is about the average of what you can expect now, at best, the Chinese brands seem to be shorter yet.
I think it's funny how people have taken the "intrinsic divide" as some sort of fact when it is just a theory, one that hasn't really been tested well either.. The reason Dr. Mori is doing his projects is to test that fact.
It doesn't matter if people "know" something, and that it is common knowledge. If that knowledge isn't fully tested, then it may not be true.
The one concern I have is that it will be fashionable to slam this and any other easy to use Linux distribution because it is "easy" for the first timer. As if hard to use is supposed to be a hallmark of a good Linux distribution.
This "speed bump" seems to have a couple of hidden costs, which might not matter to some people.
I thought bluetooth was standard on the previous G5s, now it's a $50 module. I thought AirPort Extreme was standard on the previous models, but now it's a $99 add-on. I personally don't care much for wireless G networking on a fixed workstation, so it's not too much of a loss.
Given that the bluetooth module + bluetooth keyboard & mouse combo is only a $100 upgrade, I'd say it is still worthwhile.
You can't legitimately compare engineering with system administration in that manner. The degrees, the fields and the needs are different. If you want engineering pay, you get an engineering degree and take an engineering job.
Besides, few people stay in any particular career for more than five years, ten is pretty "lucky". I doubt systems administration is one that very many in their right minds would want to retire in.
A good deal of modders seem to be the computer equivalent of ricers. They generally make a decent looking car uglier while not making the overall system any better.
I think we're better off if the ricers, er.. modders stay away from these systems.
What apple is doing is simply hyping up marketing and PR on heat pipes, which Shuttle has been using for a long time now.
And if anyone thinks that Shuttle was innovative in using heat pipes in their obnoxiously loud computer cases (IMO, due to a very poor choice of fan attached to the radiator), think again.
Compaq and Dell were using heat pipes in their servers around 1998. They may not have been the first, but it seems to wildly predate the computer aftermarket uses.
I'm not all that convinced that it is a heat pipe or a pump system. If it were a heat pipe, I'd say that each CPU should get one or two.
Well we know that the Jobs distortion field is magical.
The diagram is a little off unless the heat to color scale is non-linear.
It does bug me a bit that the things are shown in series. That means that one device will invariably be hotter than the other, assuming equal load. I imagine that they could set the affinity such that one CPU gets a job if there's little to do, the second CPU only gets a job when things get busy. Windows seems to try to balance them.
I've heard on Harley's V-Twins that it is almost always that if a cylinder goes bad, it is the back cylinder because the cooling air that reaches it is pre-heated by the front cylinder. Makers like Moto-Guzzi have the engine with the V facing forward, so they avoid that problem, each cylinder gets its own air.
Sorry, if it doesn't support Windows, I won't buy it. I would have bought it in a jiffy if it supported both Linux AND Windows.
I'm not getting locked into EITHER platform here. I'd prefer a compromise. Nearly every other piece of hardware I own I specifically buy such that it is cross-platform, I am not about to change that.
If the pcHDTV folks are too smug to bother supporting Windows, I'll continue being to smug to support their Linux-only product.
Joe Sixpack wants to do more on his PC nowadays than just word process and play solitaire.
I still don't think any of those harsher uses really requires gigahertz computers.
_I_ have found a PIIIM running at 866MHz with Windows 2000 more than adequate for most of my tasks. Actually, Windows98 was preinstalled on it, and it worked a lot more poorly than Win2K.
Heck, my sister just bought a PII laptop with Windows XP on it and she's more than happy with it. Interestingly enough, it works fine with OpenOffice 1.1.1.
Last year I had used a 500MHz PIII Xeon to make an amateur music video, and it worked just fine as a video editing system.
Actually, AMD saw fit at one time to revive the Duron because the Chinese and Indian markets showed a huge demand for CPUs under $50. I wonder if this is part of that program or not. I think it's a good way to salvage CPUs that couldn't make the "modern" speed ratings anyway.
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I don't think so. Does gtk easily do 3D? It looks to me that the demo uses 3D.
W2K DNS is easy if you don't need a complex system.
If you want a simple DNS-type system, a simple one is already set up. DNS seems to be a built-in service that's enabled by default. I manually enter into the system's HOSTS file:
Could you be specific? Libel is when you say something false to tarnish someone's reputation. Has either Linux or Tenenbaum been saying anything false?
That's not to say that they shouldn't be careful. Ken Brown may just be shrewd enough and have enough backing that could make their lives difficult if they stepped over the line, all the while dancing on the line himself.
Anyhow, "the good professor" can be seen as condescending, depending on the tone. I'd say that it is possible if Ken Brown is using this, he is probably trying to incite Tanenbaum, Linus, ESR, Stallman, etc. into saying something stupid. Despite nearly every word of the "good president of ADTI" being rooted in stupidity, any stupid slip-up, aside frim the jokes I guess, on the part of anyone I named almost WILL be exploited.
I bet the people that complain the most are probably the ones that have "desknotes".
A straight Pentium 4 (or K8 for that matter) with no dynamic clock throttling simply isn't meant for mobile use. I think mobile chips are also fabbed using different processes to drain less current, and use some fancy tweaks as well.
Not that they have battery power worth shit anyways, they often barely last an hour, forget three or four.
Well, I don't think any 52x CD writer can write a 52 minute CD in one minute.
In short, the drive manufacturers lie. When the drive speeds go up, RPMs go up, but they have to limit them otherwise imbalanced discs will shatter. RPMs being a limiter, they are effectively CAV drives, so the data can only be written so quickly near the center. Usually the stated write speed is only on the edge of the disc.
You could put in a second DVD burner? Or hire a DVD-write replicator? There are machines that automatically write the same content automatically on a large batch of DVD-R discs, so the manual disc exchange isn't necessary.
Anyway, I'm not against the faster drives if that means I can still somehow operate them at slower speeds, but other than Nero's stupid slow-down utility, I don't know how. I hated the 50x and faster CD-R drives because they were so dang loud and barely amounted to a noticible difference in speed over a 32x drive.
I guess I'll stick with my Pioneer A06U for a while now, it's fast enough for most tasks.
The hotel I went to last month provided wireless broadband networking. This was a hotel with maybe fourty rooms in a mid-sized city, I think maybe a population of 100,000 or so in the county. If you go to any a large sized city, I don't think finding a hotel with broadband would be hard.
It is as you describe. These things have been on Sony minidisc recorders for maybe five years now.
It is a REAL optical out, any Circuit City, Best Buy and the like will likely have an optical miniplug to TOSLINK adaptor in stock. It is a black plastic miniplug with an optical pass-through to a socket. I have several that came with TOSLINK cables.
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A desktop LCD panel is still something like $200+ for a 14" XGA and is about the size of my laptop. How do you propose to fit an entire system, including slim DVD, slim hard drive, CPU (don't forget the heat sink!), RAM (SODIMM at that) and a LiOn battery into that at same cabinet size for $500 using current prices?
I doubt an individual can make a full-featured briefcase computer for that much.
BTW: There's no need to "toggle" speeds using a switch. There are applets to change a mobile CPU's speed dynamically.
I think it just depends on what the designers want and what the suppliers can deliver.
If VIA makes a system-on-a-chip before any ARM fab can, and still deliver acceptable performance (in terms of speed, power consumption, IO, etc) then I'd say VIA would clearly win a round in terms of market share.
I think it's good that VIA is trying to be flexible and make powerful enough chips to do anything an embedded designer or a low-end computer house needs.
The more competition the better we the consumers are at getting the best products.
That depends. If competition becomes about who can cut the most corners and deliver the best price, the consumers sometimes lose there too. For example, consumer electronics used last decades but it seems that three years is about the average of what you can expect now, at best, the Chinese brands seem to be shorter yet.
I think it's funny how people have taken the "intrinsic divide" as some sort of fact when it is just a theory, one that hasn't really been tested well either.. The reason Dr. Mori is doing his projects is to test that fact.
It doesn't matter if people "know" something, and that it is common knowledge. If that knowledge isn't fully tested, then it may not be true.
The one concern I have is that it will be fashionable to slam this and any other easy to use Linux distribution because it is "easy" for the first timer. As if hard to use is supposed to be a hallmark of a good Linux distribution.
This "speed bump" seems to have a couple of hidden costs, which might not matter to some people.
I thought bluetooth was standard on the previous G5s, now it's a $50 module. I thought AirPort Extreme was standard on the previous models, but now it's a $99 add-on. I personally don't care much for wireless G networking on a fixed workstation, so it's not too much of a loss.
Given that the bluetooth module + bluetooth keyboard & mouse combo is only a $100 upgrade, I'd say it is still worthwhile.
You can't legitimately compare engineering with system administration in that manner. The degrees, the fields and the needs are different. If you want engineering pay, you get an engineering degree and take an engineering job.
Besides, few people stay in any particular career for more than five years, ten is pretty "lucky". I doubt systems administration is one that very many in their right minds would want to retire in.
A good deal of modders seem to be the computer equivalent of ricers. They generally make a decent looking car uglier while not making the overall system any better.
I think we're better off if the ricers, er.. modders stay away from these systems.
BTW, I forgot to mention that a heat pipe is generally a single tube, and not looped. A looped tube system qualifies as something else.
What apple is doing is simply hyping up marketing and PR on heat pipes, which Shuttle has been using for a long time now.
And if anyone thinks that Shuttle was innovative in using heat pipes in their obnoxiously loud computer cases (IMO, due to a very poor choice of fan attached to the radiator), think again.
Compaq and Dell were using heat pipes in their servers around 1998. They may not have been the first, but it seems to wildly predate the computer aftermarket uses.
I'm not all that convinced that it is a heat pipe or a pump system. If it were a heat pipe, I'd say that each CPU should get one or two.
Well we know that the Jobs distortion field is magical.
The diagram is a little off unless the heat to color scale is non-linear.
It does bug me a bit that the things are shown in series. That means that one device will invariably be hotter than the other, assuming equal load. I imagine that they could set the affinity such that one CPU gets a job if there's little to do, the second CPU only gets a job when things get busy. Windows seems to try to balance them.
I've heard on Harley's V-Twins that it is almost always that if a cylinder goes bad, it is the back cylinder because the cooling air that reaches it is pre-heated by the front cylinder. Makers like Moto-Guzzi have the engine with the V facing forward, so they avoid that problem, each cylinder gets its own air.
Sorry, if it doesn't support Windows, I won't buy it. I would have bought it in a jiffy if it supported both Linux AND Windows.
I'm not getting locked into EITHER platform here. I'd prefer a compromise. Nearly every other piece of hardware I own I specifically buy such that it is cross-platform, I am not about to change that.
If the pcHDTV folks are too smug to bother supporting Windows, I'll continue being to smug to support their Linux-only product.
Joe Sixpack wants to do more on his PC nowadays than just word process and play solitaire.
I still don't think any of those harsher uses really requires gigahertz computers.
_I_ have found a PIIIM running at 866MHz with Windows 2000 more than adequate for most of my tasks. Actually, Windows98 was preinstalled on it, and it worked a lot more poorly than Win2K.
Heck, my sister just bought a PII laptop with Windows XP on it and she's more than happy with it. Interestingly enough, it works fine with OpenOffice 1.1.1.
Last year I had used a 500MHz PIII Xeon to make an amateur music video, and it worked just fine as a video editing system.
Actually, AMD saw fit at one time to revive the Duron because the Chinese and Indian markets showed a huge demand for CPUs under $50. I wonder if this is part of that program or not. I think it's a good way to salvage CPUs that couldn't make the "modern" speed ratings anyway.
I don't think so. Does gtk easily do 3D? It looks to me that the demo uses 3D.
W2K DNS is easy if you don't need a complex system.
If you want a simple DNS-type system, a simple one is already set up. DNS seems to be a built-in service that's enabled by default. I manually enter into the system's HOSTS file:
192.168.0.128 machinenamehere0
192.168.0.129 machinenamehere1
I set all the other computers to point to the simple DNS server. That simple DNS computer uses some outside system if it's not in the hosts.
That way, I can type in http://machinenamehere0 from any computer my own network, and it will automatically go to the correct machine.
It doesn't need a Dummies book, it barely needs five paragraphs. It is kind of quick & dirty but it hasn't let me down yet.
Could you be specific? Libel is when you say something false to tarnish someone's reputation. Has either Linux or Tenenbaum been saying anything false?
That's not to say that they shouldn't be careful. Ken Brown may just be shrewd enough and have enough backing that could make their lives difficult if they stepped over the line, all the while dancing on the line himself.
Evil is better than lousy or bad.
Anyhow, "the good professor" can be seen as condescending, depending on the tone. I'd say that it is possible if Ken Brown is using this, he is probably trying to incite Tanenbaum, Linus, ESR, Stallman, etc. into saying something stupid. Despite nearly every word of the "good president of ADTI" being rooted in stupidity, any stupid slip-up, aside frim the jokes I guess, on the part of anyone I named almost WILL be exploited.
I bet the people that complain the most are probably the ones that have "desknotes".
A straight Pentium 4 (or K8 for that matter) with no dynamic clock throttling simply isn't meant for mobile use. I think mobile chips are also fabbed using different processes to drain less current, and use some fancy tweaks as well.
Not that they have battery power worth shit anyways, they often barely last an hour, forget three or four.
If they think they know who did it, don't you think they'd go after him/her?
Remember, this is the mob. If extortion isn't a problem, property damage probably isn't that much of a problem either.
Well, I don't think any 52x CD writer can write a 52 minute CD in one minute.
In short, the drive manufacturers lie. When the drive speeds go up, RPMs go up, but they have to limit them otherwise imbalanced discs will shatter. RPMs being a limiter, they are effectively CAV drives, so the data can only be written so quickly near the center. Usually the stated write speed is only on the edge of the disc.
You could put in a second DVD burner? Or hire a DVD-write replicator? There are machines that automatically write the same content automatically on a large batch of DVD-R discs, so the manual disc exchange isn't necessary.
Anyway, I'm not against the faster drives if that means I can still somehow operate them at slower speeds, but other than Nero's stupid slow-down utility, I don't know how. I hated the 50x and faster CD-R drives because they were so dang loud and barely amounted to a noticible difference in speed over a 32x drive.
I guess I'll stick with my Pioneer A06U for a while now, it's fast enough for most tasks.
The people that have 5400RPM drives likely won't be buying 16x DVD writer drives for a while yet.
Why?
In theory, it is interesting.
The hotel I went to last month provided wireless broadband networking. This was a hotel with maybe fourty rooms in a mid-sized city, I think maybe a population of 100,000 or so in the county. If you go to any a large sized city, I don't think finding a hotel with broadband would be hard.
It is as you describe. These things have been on Sony minidisc recorders for maybe five years now.
It is a REAL optical out, any Circuit City, Best Buy and the like will likely have an optical miniplug to TOSLINK adaptor in stock. It is a black plastic miniplug with an optical pass-through to a socket. I have several that came with TOSLINK cables.