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AMD Announces New Low-End Processor Line
beaverbrother points out these articles at CoolTechZone
and PC Magazine, writing "AMD (Advanced Micro Devices) is slated to launch a new Sempron line of processors this summer, to compete with Intel's Celeron line. The processors are designed to perform basic tasks, such as word processing, and more advanced tasks, like playing video, with ease."
Will they overhead and melt down like the Celeron processors? Without this feature I doubt they will be able to effectively compete with the Celeron.
Things you think are in the Constitution, but are not.
or are they just filling in a perceived niche? id buy these for sure if they are really cheaper than older durons are (really cheap)...
So it's like a Duron, but with an even sillier name?
Is it coincidence that I got an Intel ad when I opened this story? I think not...
So, the marketing strategy is that the new chip name sounds so similar that people will get confused and buy a Sempron when they meant to buy a Celeron?
Well, at least it sounds less like vegetable.
Big numbers on box with little actual performance, for people who want big numbers but don't really need a powerful computer(or have a clue, of course, if you're without a clue you don't really need a powerful computer so..)...
if it's a celeron competitor that is..
hopefully it'll be at least very affordable..
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Celeron, Duron, and now Sempron Am I missing something?
I feel sure this will immediately be spelt "sempr0n".
Hm.Sempr0n.
Sounds like something having to do with Marine porn.
I mean Sempron? Opteron, Xeon, maybe I would by a new processor when they come out with the Orgasmatron!
*narf!*
What they're getting at is that its designed for basic functionality like your word-process and your basic video decoding.
What this processor is probably not aimed at is high end video encoding/transcoding - 3D (openGL or DirectX) gaming or high-load server processing.
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That as much as we like to rip on 'choked' CPU's, Joe 6Pack doesn't NEED 1/2 the processing power that most of US use in our routers!
Jesus Christ, my router/firewall alone is a 333PII, which, for the average luser is WAY more than enough.
That said, I'm all for a new low-end CPU from AMD, let's me keep my overhead low and profits high. Good stuff, have some.
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The article says it's a 32-bit replacemnent for Duron to compete with Intel's Celeron at around 2.8GHz.
So why don't they just lower Athlon's price enough to compete with Celeron? Or is this Sempron simply a rebranded Athlon, while Duron is a crippled Ahtlon?
At first I thought AMD is introducing a dumped down 64-bit Athlon, that might be something, as the price of Athlon64 is still too expensive.
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The Athlon XP line is actually very competitively priced against the celeron. For example the XP2500+ is $125.00 Canadian compared to the Celeron 2.6Ghz which is $120.00 Canadian. The only difference between the XP and the Celeron is that the XP is WAY faster in many areas (e.g. gaming). So is this new budget line going to decrease performance in order to "compete" with the celeron?
AMD is just asking for abuse. See here.
From PC Magazine's article
Yes !! Finally, they've created a processor optimized to downloading music. With Sempron, you can download MP3s 10x faster than using Celeron!
Intel, eat my pants.
Now I remember why I cancelled my subscription to PC Magazine years ago....
MOR-on processor before it's too late: the CPU optimized for AIM, flamewars, IRC, etc. etc. with a guarantee that you'll make the bash.org quote list in no time!
I think Semprini would have been better.
AMD annnounced today the new line of Semprini proc...
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"The processors are designed to perform basic tasks, such as word processing, and more advanced tasks, like playing video, with ease."
So a all round amd chip then?!
Nothing supprising really about that. They did already announce it a few times, but i cannot be bothered to find linkz
- http://www.milkme.co.uk
Why did they change the name? People just getting sick of duron? Celeron never changed its name for as long as its been around.
holy shit! whoo hoo... optomized for downloading music and pr0n... this is excellent.... intel sux, BTW
I purchased a boxed XP 2500 w/ motherboard from Fry's this weekend for $69.00. The Athlons are already a better deal than the Celerons.
And for the energy and utility markets, they're making a new line of processors called the Enron. But I hear their beta version had problems with the floating-point unit... it kept inflating numbers by 20% to 50%.
God, i still remember the days when i had a 500mhz celeron...(shudders)
They wanted to emphasize that this was "more" than just a celeron, and of course, they had to keep the -on suffix.
Introducing the AMD Moron....
These will probably work fine in thin clients connected to a server running a stable, multitasking, multi-user OS. Actually, they may even be overkill for that.
Imagine a tiny motherboard using one of these with a basic amount of soldered-in RAM, on-board video and NIC, and an on-board boot flash containing LTSP. Voila, a compact, cheap license-free, diskless, plug-and-play, workstation! How's that for putting Linux on the desktop?
An open hardware project, anyone?
The first thing the name "Sempron" reminded of was the fact that Semper is a Swedish brand of baby formula.
Maybe I should RTFA...
NOOOO! Don't do it! Just imagine the chaos if EVERYBODY clicked that link at the same time. We might even crash the server!
*shudders at the thought*
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Argh, stop making lower processors!!! Make new higher ones. I don't want to be able to afford a new cpu. I want to dream about new fast ones that cost more than I have. :P
AMD Spermon?
AMD Sempr0n?
I'd like to applaud the marketing people at AMD for showing that even though you are severely retarded, you can still come up with a name for a a discount CPU.
And cheers to AMD for having such enlightened hiring practices! Most companies reserve the mentally deficient for IT jobs.
Actually, I believe that the Duron name refers to the lower-end 32-bit chips, whereas Semperon will be lower-end 64-bit chips.
Feel free to correct me, though.
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I saw the article reference on news.google.com and read it and thought to myself, "Hey, I haven't seen anything on slashdot about this yet; maybe I should submit it." I then read the article, and the only news I got out of it was a marketing name. I saw no specs, no speeds nor power cunsumption numbers nor even the nubmer of bits (32/64) it uses, nothing newsworthy, just a name ("Sempron") and a market ("cheap low end"). I decided not to submit it as an article and waste anyone's time.
If you've gotten far enough to read this comment, how much spare time did you waste today looking at this article?
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The Centrino is not a processor. It's a chipset in combination with a Celeron M. The Semperon is intended to compete with the Celeron.
NOOOO! Don't do it! Just imagine the chaos if EVERYBODY clicked that link at the same time. We might even crash the server!
Yes, the dreaded "RTFA Effect", which, given this site, will never happen.
If you take online multiplayer games as an example the GPU is probably only 50% of the equation.
All the prettiness is handled by the GPU but the CPU is still responsible for generating the OpenGL/DX stream and handling player (and other player) location, physics etc. A good example of this is UT2004 Onslaught which requires as much CPU as GPU power.
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Via already makes a line of small integrated motherboards with most of those requirements, called EPIA. They use their own Eden processor. It's pretty gutless, but it would make a fine file server or I/O device.
\Sim"per\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. Simpered; p. pr. & vb. n. Simpering.] [Cf. Norw. semper fine, smart, dial. Dan. semper, simper, affected, coy, prudish, OSw. semper one who affectedly refrains from eating, Sw. sipp finical, prim, LG. sipp.] 1. To smile in a silly, affected, or conceited manner.
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i think they can compete with celeron
I'll never understand why Fry's doesn't want people looking at their ads on the web, given what they sell...
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Sadly it seems this site you refer to doesn't have info about deals for the Austin store, unless that's what "Dallas area" means...
Low end processors, old processors, crap processors ... the problem is that people still have full-blown computers on their desks. Maybe if you're Joe Seven-Pak (you know, Joe Six-Pak's poweruser cousin) and you edit your home videos on your PC, it makes sense to have the latest and greatest. But I find it completely stupid -- actually, I find it downright obscene -- that businesses with bloody acres full of cubicle dwellers, have not embraced network computing solutions like LTSP or even Citrix. If it weren't for the damned status quo being continously hammered into people's minds by Intel and Microsoft, maybe people would realize that keeping power off the desktop and centralized behind the glass is the best way to lower the TCO of a multiuser environment.
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Seems to me that AMD is trying to cash in on the buzz surrounding the Centrino marketing push that Intel is making.
I can't say I blame them. It's a good idea. AMD has always been a good "budget" performer. Intel may be king of the hill in raw processing power, but in the price/performance battle it's AMD all the way.
Some might label me as an AMD fanboy because I haven't bought an Intel chip since the P2-300 and because I have sworn off Intel because of the P3's processor ID fiasco. That's fine with me.
Spend more on Intel than I do on AMD and you'll get a 10% performance bonus at the cost of a 25% price premium.
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AMD announces the Simpleton processor line. Designed to be a replacment for the older Moron line, the Simpleton features 4 more letters in its name. The new line is designed to compete with the current Intel Cheaparon line.
The processors are designed to perform basic tasks, such as word processing...
That's officially the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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sempron - i know that computers can be addicting, but now with this new name i feel like i should ask my doctor whether it's alright to use one.
the first thing i saw in the name was Sem pron , so is it optomized for jpeg, and movie decoding or something?
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"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Only if the server is running on a Sempron.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
I love a company with a logo styled on the shape of the head of an erect penis.
AMD bought Sampo Corporation and, hey Ron, released the Sempron. The Sempron is rumored to provide competition to common-variety garden celery.
Must-not-watch TV!
And we'd all be so much better off if the did this.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Is it me or does this name sound like something from an old Monty Python sketch?
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did anyone else hear about the new dual-proc board for low-end AMD processors? it's optimized for playing 80's mp3's. They call it the Duron-Duron. /shamelessly stolen from bash.org
The slower the machine, the more RAM you need to make up for things like slower disk IO and such.
A Pentium III 600 with 512MB will perform just as well or better then a Pentium 4 2Ghz with the 128MB that many computers are still sold with, on everyday tasks like web browsing, grabbing pictures from digital cameras, e-mail, etc. Basically everything but new games.
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...the "Pentium M" processor in Centrino is not a Celeron or any other Pentium 4 Willamette or Northwood or Prescott core derivative.
It was designed from the ground up to perform well at lower clock speeds to lower power consumption and increase battery life.
When I first heard about Sempron, I immediately thought it was a new brand of tampons.
A CPU called a Sempron? No wonder we're running out of trademark namespace!
from the ground up?
I thought it was more like a p3 on steroids.
not really ground up, then, if that's the case. basically admitting the p4 was a mistake and there's still life left in the p3 design.
which we knew, anyway, when p3's would beat p4's, at the p4 introduction.
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Oh, wow, who woulda thought. The same error sound as when you try to mount an orb heatsink on a bare Athlon/Duron.
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on a 533 MHz celeron and 128MB of RAM, and a laptop hard drive.
The scary thing is, it's the one of the most responsive windows machine I have.
Just goes to show you: Server 2003, it's XP, except it doesn't suck!
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I paid more than $69 to get my OEM XP2500 8 months ago. Try the motherboard, if it suits, fine, if not, toss it, get a better one.
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That would be nice for me :(
I am still using a old Celeron 333 computer and it can barely play all those divx p0rno
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Now for the bad news:
You don't know what the FUCK are you talking about.
The Sempron is going to be 100% like the Duron. Is the Duron in ANY way more suited then any other processor for thin client computing? AMD's new server line of Opterons with lower voltage cores might be a starting point. The Pentium-M might be a starting point. The Sempron is NOT a starting point.
Oh wait, AMD already sells an embedded x86-compatible processor Am5x86! And, WHAT'S THIS?!?! It even sells a miniature integrated platform, called Elan.
Well tie me up and violate me with a spoon. Do you enjoy being such a karma whore or are you just that ignorant?
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Yeah, from what I remember it's basically a faster clocked P3 with four times the L2 cache, additional instruction sets, and the ability to use DDR memory. (Plus some advanced power-saving stuff, like only needing energy for the cache being used.)
Maybe it's just me .... but Sempron, as a name, doesn't .... I mean ... Ok,look. You go up to the customer and say "but this one has the new AMD Sempron processor."
Athlon, Duron, Celeron, Pentium, Centrino, they all work. Sempron doesn't.
The name has gotta have balls. Go up to the customer and say they can have a Sempron or the new eco-optimised AMD Fluxron with Hyperdrive and see which box flies out the door.
It's hard to pump Sempron. It just doesn't diddle the clit of imagination. Somebody at AMD is trying to hard me thinks.
The new AMD Sellitron... I'm here all week....
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Actually without in spanish is SIN not sem.
I thought it was more like a p3 on steroids.:::
It's more like a hybrid P6/Netburst core.
Basically, it gets from Netburst:
What Netburst has that Pentium-M doesn't:
What is has that Netburst doesn't:
I'm not so sure about Netburst lacking micro-op fusion though.
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Take a look at this article
Basically a P3, with more cache and some of the features of a P4 (improved branch sheduler) and none of the crud (long pipelines).
meh
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My *%&^#% 60Mhz dual-processor SS20 is faster sometimes - but I kept the groovy Gateway 2000 server chassis! I feel like I'm really using UNIX - some whacking-big tower under the desk! Plus, there's enough drive bays that I'll never fill them up.
Right, but that's called the Pentium-M, not Centrino; unless you've seen the name used officially outside complete laptops with integrated WiFi.. :)
:)
Looking at Intel's Centrino page seems to confirm this; it's a "range of technologies", including Intel's wireless networking hardware, motherboard chipset and the Pentium-M. Hence it's not a processor family, it's a mobile technology family, which includes a processor family name most people will at least partly recognise.
But anyway, </pedantic>
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Most AMD chips are already priced at or below Celerons. Why do they need a cheaper chip? Celerons are much cheaper than their Intel counterparts. I can't see these chips being prices low enough to dog the real deal.
In the old days, computer always cost $5,000. You want a computer? $5k. Now you can get them for $1k for business use, less than that for home use? So AMD is going to offer a chip for $25 less? What's the point?
If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem
Playing games that don't exist is not the only problem for a budget system. In addition to these processors being slated as "budget", the manufacturers will add junk to either use outdated, or unreliable, or undated and unreliable for video (I still remember the awe when I saw brand new top of the line P4's with that cheap stuff). Put that together with a standard 48x cdrw and you have a system that is totally void of anything worthwhile.
This is not to diss AMD, I'm sure the Sempron will kill the celeron, and likely compete with the p4 on an even clock speed, but the big manufacturers will treat it like a Cyrix (They see: P4, Athlon, Celeron, then Sempron). I cannot feel strongly enough about my friends who go out and buy a "cheap" celeron for $500. Just imagine all the people who would sell them their 3 year old gaming system, a system to totally blow away the modern "Screaming fast" PC.
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Not mentioned in the article but I know AMD has announced it's coming out with a low end CPU (Duron replacement) that supports the No Execute command - is this the one? If so that was fast! Has Intel said anything about doing the same with their P4 series or Celeron CPUs? I know that Intel does it or will do it with their 64bit stuff but I'm curious about more Joe User consumer level CPUs. AMD is doing it with their 64bit CPU too so it looks like Intel may have to follow them on again.
:-)
Along those lines - anyone tested this functionality? How effective is the NX going to be - is it all hoopla and wishful thinking? Does the beta SP2 for XP carry the code to support the NX stuff so that it can at least be tested for effectiveness?
News.com reported Linux will have this before MSFT (lol) but I'm really wondering just how many of the exploits out there this will stop...
Okay, so maybe OT but if this CPU command really is effective having low cost CPUs supporting it could really help things. Heh and being an AMD stock holder I'd love to see them beat Intel up on this
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now and loving it. *shrug*
I pulled my old Athlon 500 (SLOT A, LOL)and board out of the closet and the only complaint I have
is that it has a bit of a slow harddrive on it.
No I don't play games on it.. but it's snappy fast
once linux is loaded.
It looks like the target market is men who need to compensate about something. Maybe they should ship a free bottle of Viagra to the first 100 000 early adopters.
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comes from tampon, it's designed to fill another crack in the market.