On the other hand, if they choose an open source product, if there is a bug, there's nobody to pass the buck to.
The problem with that argument is this: do you actually see Microsoft or any other software company actually _accepting_ laibilities due to bugs in their own software? So there's really no one to pass the buck to, regardless of who wrote the software, open or closed source. I guess at least you can _blame_ Microsoft and be somewhat out of the hot seat, but they would laugh at you if you want compensation for broken software.
The technology is OK, it just doesn't have much market share and that's what is going to kill it if something doesn't change. The price is also actually pretty competitive with other 64 bit machines currently sold and is a pretty good performer in that field.
I am still wary of those things. They have to be treated very gently. I've read that just the act of putting some pressure on the center of the larger faces of the drives can kill them.
I'd rather stick to a "bulky" 2.5" MD or mini-CD, which I've never personally damaged media or players of either format.
And yes, I've heard the RUMORS about the IBM chips. They'll still be far behind this, RISC or not.
I agree that Apple needs to get on the ball with speed, but there are a few uniprocessor RISC systems at 1GHz that can slap around a 2.5 to 3.0GHz equivalent x86 systems. I don't think Apple's systems can do this but rather the workstations from Risc vendors which easily make Apple look cheap.
If you want to run a real mail server, perhaps you should get a real internet conenction, like Colocation or T1.
Agreed. I have an external server that handles my server activities, such as a web site and email accounts. It's a $10/month account on a computer system that's maintained by someone else so I don't have to fix it if it goes down. I don't remember having any down time either.
It's pretty cheap peace of mind and I'm not violating any terms of service agreements, you know, the ones that frown in running a server on a residential account?
Well, Futurama got a DVD release, despite its canning.
I read an article that said that last year's TV series video market was $2 billion US and the owners are starting to tap into this.
FOX has been notably proactive in this, most of my TV series DVD collection is FOX: Angel, Buffy (3 seasons so far), M*A*S*H (3 seasons so far), Simpsons (two seasons so far) and Futurama.
As evidenced by a little slip of paper they included in some of the sets, they have more, I don't have their Malcom in the Middle, X-Files, or Twenty Four, The Shield and Mary Tyler Moore.
The newer codecs take a lot more computational power, something not simply was not available affordably in 1996 when the DVD format was being finalized.
I don't think MPEG4 was even considered a large video format at the time either. Its original intent was for video phones and compact streams. I don't remember anyone at the time even considering MPEG4 for high resolution images. It wasn't until the bootleggers came along, particularly with the DivX hack of MPEG4.
I do agree that a patent unencumbered is preferable.
For quite a while, affordable DVD recording wasn't available either, and that didn't seem to hurt acceptance. There were several other reasons for reduced acceptance in the US, this one didn't seem to be much of a factor.
IIRC, there were recordable LDs but they weren't widely available.
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I don't know about the overall systems, but the Xeons meant for dual processor machines cost about as much as the equivalent Athlon MP chip.
I think any multi-processor x86 OS can use the hyperthreading feature, but some performance gain can be had by optimizing a scheduler for it that is HT-aware in a way that makes best use of it.
From what I've heard, the _maximum_ improvement you can theoretically get is 30%, typical improvement is 10%, which is pretty good as I think the HT-specific section of the die accounts for less than 5% of the space. It is not the full equivalent of a dual processor, which easily has 30% typical processing improvement for a lot of threaded or SMP capable tasks. In very few cases, true doubling of processors can more than double performacne as you have a more processors that's not doing OS handling.
I can't find any information if Win2k3 has support for Intels Itanium 64bit processor...You'd think it would considering MS and Intel spend every night in bed together.
Well, MS is now the master of a three-way, and AMD is getting more attention in bed now because AMD's CEO strongly supported Microsoft during the congressional hearings on MS's monopoly.
I too would think there would be something on the Itanium, but maybe Intel really is missing the boat big time. More applications will soon need larger memory addressing, and AMD simply provides a smoother mass market on-ramp to 64 bit computing.
I agree. With LEDs, PWM is a much better way to control light output than a DAC output. With PWM, you can control fractional duration that an LED is on to linearly change intensity. With a DAC output, the result is much more non linear because diodes are exponential devices, doubling current doesn't mean doubling light output.
especially when you consider you can get the same power as an Intel chip in an AMD chip for typically half to one-third the price.
That doesn't sound common unless you are at the bottom end of the scale. Just looking through Pricewatch, comparable CPUs are typically within $30 of each other.
$483 Athlon XP 3000 $485 Pentium 4 3.06GHz
$171 Pentium 4 2.53GHz $163 Athlon XP 2500
The biggest differences were near the bottom of the scale:
Now we just have to organize a bunch of librarians to do the "squint and stare at you as if you've just commited a felony" at the appropriate federal buildings. how long can such a seige last? Maybe they can creatively miss-file several million people's library fines to Ashcroft's account.
Re:The legacy part that bothers me...
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I thought the interrupt system was improved just by doing away with ISA, My systems have IRQ numbers that go up to 64.
I would actually pay extra to keep the legacy stuff just because those devices are easy to make and I have a bunch in my closet. I am developing a device that communicates to a computer by RS-232. It is simple to implement with hardware commonly built into microcontrollers. Simplicity is something that can't be said nearly so much about USB or Ethernet.
With legacy-free, one has to buy an extra $30-$50 I/O card to get serial, all so the manufacturers can save at _most_ $5 on components on the main board.
There are people that cling to the clickety-type keyboards, with legacy free, I think they'll be screwed as I don't think any are being made with USB compatibility.
I think the biggest reason that the EVA movies will never see a theatrical run is that a lot of fans begged Manga Entertainment _not_ to. They did this because it requires having seen the original TV series to understand squat. At least they weren't just long episodes.
Thanks. All I got from the original like was this snippy little tirade:
"Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
Dang, exactly how much does a slashdotting punish a server these days?
I don't like John Ashcroft but so far he hasn't made a black list or anything like that. I do agree that he should be removed from his position for the crap he advocates.
I think 17" qualifies as UXGA (I think 1280x1024), which of course, can be had for $500. I am pretty sure one can get a laptop with 1400something x 1000 screen for $1000. Not exactly an apples comparison but the laptop has a better resolution screen than what you can find as a stand-alone monitor for $1000.
I question the assertion that there will be a plateu in data storage needs because someone will find a new way to waste space. Too many similar predictions have been made in the past, and failed, to make it not a rediculously safe bet. Even if a per-file size remains the same, people will want to shuffle away even more files.
I really don't understand where you went with that.
My point is that when the product is given at no charge, there's no incentive for the author to give in to the user base's demands. If I am selling a product with 10 features for $300, and the prospective market asks for 15 features for $200, I might give in as it's another $200 in my pocket. If a free product has 10 features and the users want another 5, it doesn't matter. Beggars can't be choosy.
I won't work for free and I won't program for free, and I don't see how I can rightfully demand that someone else to give their work or programs away for free.
I know someone that speculated the dual personality thing, based on press releases. It was as if one group was promoting Sun hardware (Linux on Sparc!) and one group was promoting Sun software (Solaris on x86!)
Really, I don't think it is as much of a problem that is on Hewlett Packard's hands, where they have Alpha (Tru64, VMS), Itanium (which will likely have Tru64, VMS and Linux ports supported in-house), PA-RISC/HPUX, some Xscale stuff, some Transmeta stuff and still maintaining several variations of Intel's line, such as Xeon, PIII, P4, likely Celeron and Centrino, and they even have a (very) few models that have AMD chips. I have no idea if the Himalaya line is still being supported, so that's yet another product line.
As far as I'm concerned, there is a significant difference between demanding the most for your money and demanding everything for nothing, mostly because it is a divide by zero.
If you aren't paying any money, you can't really threaten to pay less money or threaten to use someone else's product. because there's really no gain or loss on the part of the producer.
Unfortunately the headline on the article itself says 3G.
I think the phone is likely 3G capable, my phone says it is on the back.
I agree with the article, the downloaded ringers, games, images and animations are too expensive, what makes it worse is the limited 60 to 90 day use, and you don't get a preview or a test use. I will probably not pay for any of them, I hope there is a workaround.
Offloading CPU tasks is one thing, but 64 bit isn't about performance (yet). It's about having memory space. For tasks that need less than 4GB, there is actually a performance hit in many cases, particularly when storing pointers as you would be pushing more data to do the same thing, and often SPEC marks are made by compiling a 32 bit version for this reason. Once you need more memory than what a 32 bit CPU can address is when 64 bit performs better.
I know SPEC marks aren't absolute, but as it sits, top end single CPU 32 bit machines and top end single CPU 64 bit machines run pretty close in computational performance.
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On the other hand, if they choose an open source product, if there is a bug, there's nobody to pass the buck to.
The problem with that argument is this: do you actually see Microsoft or any other software company actually _accepting_ laibilities due to bugs in their own software? So there's really no one to pass the buck to, regardless of who wrote the software, open or closed source. I guess at least you can _blame_ Microsoft and be somewhat out of the hot seat, but they would laugh at you if you want compensation for broken software.
That's funny.
The technology is OK, it just doesn't have much market share and that's what is going to kill it if something doesn't change. The price is also actually pretty competitive with other 64 bit machines currently sold and is a pretty good performer in that field.
I am still wary of those things. They have to be treated very gently. I've read that just the act of putting some pressure on the center of the larger faces of the drives can kill them.
I'd rather stick to a "bulky" 2.5" MD or mini-CD, which I've never personally damaged media or players of either format.
And yes, I've heard the RUMORS about the IBM chips. They'll still be far behind this, RISC or not.
I agree that Apple needs to get on the ball with speed, but there are a few uniprocessor RISC systems at 1GHz that can slap around a 2.5 to 3.0GHz equivalent x86 systems. I don't think Apple's systems can do this but rather the workstations from Risc vendors which easily make Apple look cheap.
If you want to run a real mail server, perhaps you should get a real internet conenction, like Colocation or T1.
Agreed. I have an external server that handles my server activities, such as a web site and email accounts. It's a $10/month account on a computer system that's maintained by someone else so I don't have to fix it if it goes down. I don't remember having any down time either.
It's pretty cheap peace of mind and I'm not violating any terms of service agreements, you know, the ones that frown in running a server on a residential account?
Well, Futurama got a DVD release, despite its canning.
I read an article that said that last year's TV series video market was $2 billion US and the owners are starting to tap into this.
FOX has been notably proactive in this, most of my TV series DVD collection is FOX: Angel, Buffy (3 seasons so far), M*A*S*H (3 seasons so far), Simpsons (two seasons so far) and Futurama.
As evidenced by a little slip of paper they included in some of the sets, they have more, I don't have their Malcom in the Middle, X-Files, or Twenty Four, The Shield and Mary Tyler Moore.
The newer codecs take a lot more computational power, something not simply was not available affordably in 1996 when the DVD format was being finalized.
I don't think MPEG4 was even considered a large video format at the time either. Its original intent was for video phones and compact streams. I don't remember anyone at the time even considering MPEG4 for high resolution images. It wasn't until the bootleggers came along, particularly with the DivX hack of MPEG4.
I do agree that a patent unencumbered is preferable.
For quite a while, affordable DVD recording wasn't available either, and that didn't seem to hurt acceptance. There were several other reasons for reduced acceptance in the US, this one didn't seem to be much of a factor.
IIRC, there were recordable LDs but they weren't widely available.
I don't know about the overall systems, but the Xeons meant for dual processor machines cost about as much as the equivalent Athlon MP chip.
I think any multi-processor x86 OS can use the hyperthreading feature, but some performance gain can be had by optimizing a scheduler for it that is HT-aware in a way that makes best use of it.
From what I've heard, the _maximum_ improvement you can theoretically get is 30%, typical improvement is 10%, which is pretty good as I think the HT-specific section of the die accounts for less than 5% of the space. It is not the full equivalent of a dual processor, which easily has 30% typical processing improvement for a lot of threaded or SMP capable tasks. In very few cases, true doubling of processors can more than double performacne as you have a more processors that's not doing OS handling.
I can't find any information if Win2k3 has support for Intels Itanium 64bit processor...You'd think it would considering MS and Intel spend every night in bed together.
Well, MS is now the master of a three-way, and AMD is getting more attention in bed now because AMD's CEO strongly supported Microsoft during the congressional hearings on MS's monopoly.
I too would think there would be something on the Itanium, but maybe Intel really is missing the boat big time. More applications will soon need larger memory addressing, and AMD simply provides a smoother mass market on-ramp to 64 bit computing.
I agree. With LEDs, PWM is a much better way to control light output than a DAC output. With PWM, you can control fractional duration that an LED is on to linearly change intensity. With a DAC output, the result is much more non linear because diodes are exponential devices, doubling current doesn't mean doubling light output.
It's even worse, both of those hits are for the same site!
especially when you consider you can get the same power as an Intel chip in an AMD chip for typically half to one-third the price.
That doesn't sound common unless you are at the bottom end of the scale. Just looking through Pricewatch, comparable CPUs are typically within $30 of each other.
$483 Athlon XP 3000
$485 Pentium 4 3.06GHz
$171 Pentium 4 2.53GHz
$163 Athlon XP 2500
The biggest differences were near the bottom of the scale:
$130 - Pentium 4 2.0GHz Sock 478
$67 Athlon XP 2000
Don't mess with the librarians.
Now we just have to organize a bunch of librarians to do the "squint and stare at you as if you've just commited a felony" at the appropriate federal buildings. how long can such a seige last? Maybe they can creatively miss-file several million people's library fines to Ashcroft's account.
I thought the interrupt system was improved just by doing away with ISA, My systems have IRQ numbers that go up to 64.
I would actually pay extra to keep the legacy stuff just because those devices are easy to make and I have a bunch in my closet. I am developing a device that communicates to a computer by RS-232. It is simple to implement with hardware commonly built into microcontrollers. Simplicity is something that can't be said nearly so much about USB or Ethernet.
With legacy-free, one has to buy an extra $30-$50 I/O card to get serial, all so the manufacturers can save at _most_ $5 on components on the main board.
There are people that cling to the clickety-type keyboards, with legacy free, I think they'll be screwed as I don't think any are being made with USB compatibility.
I think the biggest reason that the EVA movies will never see a theatrical run is that a lot of fans begged Manga Entertainment _not_ to. They did this because it requires having seen the original TV series to understand squat. At least they weren't just long episodes.
Thanks. All I got from the original like was this snippy little tirade:
"Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
Dang, exactly how much does a slashdotting punish a server these days?
I don't like John Ashcroft but so far he hasn't made a black list or anything like that. I do agree that he should be removed from his position for the crap he advocates.
Huh? A 15" LCD isn't UXGA, it is XGA (1024x768).
I think 17" qualifies as UXGA (I think 1280x1024), which of course, can be had for $500. I am pretty sure one can get a laptop with 1400something x 1000 screen for $1000. Not exactly an apples comparison but the laptop has a better resolution screen than what you can find as a stand-alone monitor for $1000.
I question the assertion that there will be a plateu in data storage needs because someone will find a new way to waste space. Too many similar predictions have been made in the past, and failed, to make it not a rediculously safe bet. Even if a per-file size remains the same, people will want to shuffle away even more files.
I really don't understand where you went with that.
My point is that when the product is given at no charge, there's no incentive for the author to give in to the user base's demands. If I am selling a product with 10 features for $300, and the prospective market asks for 15 features for $200, I might give in as it's another $200 in my pocket. If a free product has 10 features and the users want another 5, it doesn't matter. Beggars can't be choosy.
I won't work for free and I won't program for free, and I don't see how I can rightfully demand that someone else to give their work or programs away for free.
I know someone that speculated the dual personality thing, based on press releases. It was as if one group was promoting Sun hardware (Linux on Sparc!) and one group was promoting Sun software (Solaris on x86!)
Really, I don't think it is as much of a problem that is on Hewlett Packard's hands, where they have Alpha (Tru64, VMS), Itanium (which will likely have Tru64, VMS and Linux ports supported in-house), PA-RISC/HPUX, some Xscale stuff, some Transmeta stuff and still maintaining several variations of Intel's line, such as Xeon, PIII, P4, likely Celeron and Centrino, and they even have a (very) few models that have AMD chips. I have no idea if the Himalaya line is still being supported, so that's yet another product line.
As far as I'm concerned, there is a significant difference between demanding the most for your money and demanding everything for nothing, mostly because it is a divide by zero.
If you aren't paying any money, you can't really threaten to pay less money or threaten to use someone else's product. because there's really no gain or loss on the part of the producer.
Unfortunately the headline on the article itself says 3G.
I think the phone is likely 3G capable, my phone says it is on the back.
I agree with the article, the downloaded ringers, games, images and animations are too expensive, what makes it worse is the limited 60 to 90 day use, and you don't get a preview or a test use. I will probably not pay for any of them, I hope there is a workaround.
Offloading CPU tasks is one thing, but 64 bit isn't about performance (yet). It's about having memory space. For tasks that need less than 4GB, there is actually a performance hit in many cases, particularly when storing pointers as you would be pushing more data to do the same thing, and often SPEC marks are made by compiling a 32 bit version for this reason. Once you need more memory than what a 32 bit CPU can address is when 64 bit performs better.
I know SPEC marks aren't absolute, but as it sits, top end single CPU 32 bit machines and top end single CPU 64 bit machines run pretty close in computational performance.