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How to Make a Starship Enterprise out of a 3.5" Floppy
Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today, so you get to enjoy this little gem:
Here are some simple instructions for making an Enterpris from
a 3.5" floppy disk. Remember those? Before CDRWs cost next to nothing?
Thanks to Ant for digging this one up. Update Removed the link when the original content was removed.
An honest post if ever i saw one.
:)
That's about all floppy disks are good for anyway
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something about this is just wrong.
yes somewhow, it seems to be sickly intriguing.
damn.
i must be a geek.
The enterprise may go at light speed.
But the grinding of the server's harddrives as we slashdot them only travels at the speed of sound
Cheers
My CD-R produces a lot of coasters,
can they be used for some thing less useful than coasters...
Hey you two people who actually got to see the page, rip that thing out of your web cache and share it please.
Call me when we can make a Death Star out of a roll of CAT 5.
the site is slashdotted, I have put up a mirror at
chaz6.com/enterprise/
Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today
It's not like that's ever stopped them before. Heck, they could always post a dupe.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
Really, go outside or read a book.
Now, what in the hell could be made from a DVD? Borg ship perhaps?
With some duct tape and an old towel MacGyver could make a gun!
I just saw this on a message board, before it actually got to Slashdot. This is odd. Well once you get good at that then try this
Wicked. No longer will my flatmate's tape-reel millenium falcon and punchcard x-wing dominate the living room.
For the first ever, I am mad that my Macs don't have floppy drives. Now how am I supposed to waste five minutes of my day?
Oh, right. I forgot.
Masturbate!
I'd put radio control on the rudder and flaps...
How many of you grabbed a floppy and ripped it apart within 1 minute of reading that page? Admit it. You know you did.
-S
--- What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
this is "stuff that matters"!
It's exactly the antidote to a morning of reading the news from around the world...
we speak the way we breathe --Fugazi
Now I have a copy of this 3.5" floppy disk Enterprise...
The only problem is how to get it fit in the floppy station so I can post a copy of it to the /. crowd.
Damn it. Didn't solve that one. Move along.
I demand the Cone of Silence!
Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today...
How exactly is it different from other days at
getSexySig();
it worked!
You KNOW it's a really slow
Grandparent: Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today...
Parent: How exactly is it different from other days at
Cover your eyes and click this link!
Thanks to Ant for digging this one up.
Did anyone else notice the url starts with www.asciipr0n.com ? Imagine a colony of ants transfering ASCII pr0n, char by char
Oh, shut up!
getSexySig();
Are you afraid of the magnetism or the plastic?
Your answer is: Anytime you don't know if you should wash you hands or not, wash them. Teach your kids this, too.
... Stuff that matters.
Uh...
I made one as soon as I read the post... only to discover that the top didn't fit. If anyone else encounters this problem, just try folding the thin end of the floppy cover thingy (does it have a name?) in half.
- m4. f0x
"Don't let your schooling interfere with your education." -Mark Twain
Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today
I think we got suspicious after the story with the bloke complaining about getting free software
And for Bonus Points, after building your Enterprise, re-assemble the floppy disk into working condition!
"The information superhighway tought us, what some nerd thinks about Star Trek"
-- Homer Simpson
It's times like this that I keep slashdot around to remind me that there's always someone out there nerdier than I. Thank you, slashdot.
ant (go through his website, i easily get lost there often) is a regular link submitter to bluesnews, where this was posted yesterday.
it was submitted by frag.machine back then.
/.:ing is a nasty thing... :) ;)
Oh well they survived for an hour. Not too lousy. Apperantly dangerous to post this stuff on a site where >75% of the visitors love StarTrek
<body>
<center><h6>SLASHDOT SUCKS</h6></center>
</body>
</html>
OK, this was an amusing method of dealing with the Slashdot Effect.
Believe nothing, not even if I say it, if it violates your sense of reason -- Buddha
Now make 3 of these, and with the remaining plastic bit, you can make a borg cube to annoy your nice little fleet.
Its still not a patch on putting cd's in the microwave and making pieces of art out of the interestingly patterned results.
(I would make a comment about shoving the enterprise in the microwave and ion storms here, but thats going a bit too far)
http://www.rasher.dk/cam/ -- Look some loser already did it.
Now reads "Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
Ouch!
And the link from the article just reads "Slashdot Sucks"
Thats what i get for reading articles i guess.
When in doubt, parenthesize. At the very least it will let some poor schmuck bounce on the % key in vi. (Larry Wall)
"Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
Same time next week guys?
this is what that page currently says:
"Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
haha, i think that is great.
The world moves for love. It kneels before it in awe.
Taken from the site:
Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...
You guys, asciipr0n.com is a small site. I'm aware you can link to whoever you want, but don't you think you should show some courtesy and warn a person before you eat up their bandwidth bill in a a matter of minutes?
It's just a nice thing to do.
Recursive (adj.): see 'Recursive'
I think they really, really, really didn't like finding out about the
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
So I guess I'm wondering, what have been your experiences getting slashdotted... did your site go down? What server software were you using, and what kind of bandwidth did you have?
Miko O'Sullivan
Important!
Shouldnt the first step should be "back up your data"? Be forewarned - I lost a year of important financial statements by trying this stupid little "trick".....
Seriously though, looks like all the Mac and (soon)Dell users are SOL on this one.
Escape Pod out of a USB Pen Drive anyone?
Way to go!
You didn't say it could possibly render the floppy unusable! I'm gonna sue you now! :-\
Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters...
What, do these guys work for the Dallas Morning News?
These things actually fly pretty straight, if you throw 'em.
:)
These instructions could probably use improvement (for instance I was thinking snipping the neck where the saucer section attaches at the front might make it fit on better). Anyone feel like reworking the design a little, or providing more clarity?
Also, if anyone has ideas as to how one would make a Bird of Prey from the same parts, that would be appreciated.
Here I sit in a room with 6 PC's surrounding me. I figured I'd reach in to my desk and grab an old floppy and do this. None there. Look in the closet behind me....none there. When's the last time I actually used one? Musta been building a tomsrtbt disk about 8 months ago. Now i've got to really scavenge so I can build this useless little puppy.
If it ain't a Model M, it's a piece of crap.
Way to go... slashdotting a site just because there's nothing better out there. I mean I can understand watching Survivor or Seinfeld just because there's nothing else on, but they don't get yanked off the air if too many people watch...
This is NOT responsible use of power guys...
we mneed to have one .. yes I read the faq .. the fact is when a site is slashdotted nobody sees the ads .. so a cache can be activated if enpough people request the cache ... so ./ can cache a site prior to posting it .. and then if the site is slashdotted the cache version can be made available .. someone suggest it to slashdot via email cause I doubt anyone at slashdot bothers to read these comments.
Some additional instructions so you can make the U.S.S Enterprise 1701-D.
Well first don't remove the media from the medal disk thingie.
When the ship is assembled the media will cover the nacelles so just trim the saucer into an off-center oval with the metal disk thingie to one side.
If done somewhat correctly the saucer section will now be in somewhat accurate proportions to the hull.
As soon as I remeber where I put my camera, I will post some pics.
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I hope that they formatted the disks first!
They have a notice up bitching about getting slashdotted.
I really don't get why people complain about people coming to their site - even en mass.
You put something up publically, and the whole point is that people come and see it.
If you don't want many people coming - put up a password site and only let in those that you want in.
People always bitch that slashdot should mirror the pages - but that in itself is nearly as retarded as the first complaint.
Ugh, I hate people.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
CD-RW's, not zip disks are the real floppy replacements.
You caught me.
Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...
Methinks they don't appreciate the attention.
If you can't see the value in jet powered ants you should turn in your nerd card. - Dunbal (464142)
Does anyone have a mirror of this content? My school censors Internet content, and so I cannot view the page that the article links to (it's URL has ``pr0n'' in its name). Thanks!
Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice.
WHAAA!!
Mommy, thomeone winked to my thite!!!!
Grow up, morons. If you put up a publically accessible site, pe prepared to deal with people actually looking at it.
Has anyone posted instructions how to make a mirror-site out of a 3.5" floppy?
;)
Hey, I'm inviting you all slashdot-readers to CommanderTaco's house, everyone is invited, and please take all your friends with you. Let's try to visit him together next sunday at noon, and ask if it might be possible to mirror those sites..
love slashdot. populate it. use it. abuse it. hate it. kill it. miss it. stop following links, they only kill servers.
So what disk did people make their Enterprises out of? Blank one? Windows boot disk?
I found a Redhat 3.0.3 root disk to make it out of. I don't think I'll be needing that anymore.
Being part of a community involves give and take. /. has done its fair of giving, so far as links to news and a place to comment is concerned. This has also involved more than a fair share of taking.
As a responsible net-citizen, though, the editors need to be far more considerate of other people. This is a clear case of inproper net behavior, something I would expect the newest AOL-newbie, spam producing, weenie to do.
Instead of complaining about how much spam you get everyday, Taco, why don't you do the community something useful and mirror the websites that you link to. We whine and complain about bad patents, spam, copyright abuse, monopolies, and then treat the net community with disrespect by effectively dos'ing random servers? It isn't funny anymore.
What are CAT 5's?
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Its tough if they run a server on a 486, but its a very bad president if you have to ASK permission to link to websites... of course if someone were to make a bit torrent webserver..
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Excuse me, but I thought the point of putting up a webpage was so people could find it and view it. If you don't want it viewed without permission, shouldn't you password protect it? What is the differnce between slashdot handing out the link versus say... Google? Maybe they should have a disclamer on all their pages, "If you are reading this, please stop and send a message to the our webmaster and CC: our hosters to make sure you have permission. If you do not agree to these terms, please close this page now and flush your cache."
Just ripped apart 2 perfectly good floppies before succeeding in my mission...some words of advice from Science Officer Spock:
Exercise extreme caution while making "make little snips halfway through the metal". A slightly careless snip there and I managed to lob off half the neck. A kitchen knife's a better choice than scissors here.
\\// Live long and prosper
Also, some saucers have a thicker rim, in which case a slightly wider cut helps make sure the rim fits snugly in the snip. Otherwise you'll end up with a lopsided bridge.
I'm currently in severe pain... :-(
On Google!
Wow.. what a loss to the world (sensitive people avert your eyes before clicking)
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
The difference is two or three hundred views per day versus twenty thousand views in half an hour.
Well, guess you won't be needing that floppy drive anymore. So turn it into a ROBOT!
If I had something interesting enough on a webpage to drive massive amounts of traffic to it, I'd be happy, pround even, not whinny.
I just made a flat black flying saucer out of a floppy diskette. It is really cool. Here are the detailed instructions:
1. Take the square covering off
2. Done!
Table-ized A.I.
You'd be proud until you saw the bandwidth bill. I don't give a shit if people look at it, I'd just like some common decency when sites that have a very very high readership, like slashdot, post a link to a site that's on a machine of mine. I highly doubt cnn.com would just blindly link to an external site knowing that the link would hit that site with boatloads of unexpected traffic. You're crazy to suggest that everybody that's ever put anything on the internet has taken into consideration getting a hundred thousand hits in one day, and that they should just smile and foot the bill for the bandwidth, happy as a damn lark.
Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...
How to summon the Borg with an old tampon.
CmdrTaco - you are an idiot.
./ed becuase these nerds here are Star trek fans. They have nothing else to do.
U didn't ask for permission before linking to the site?
U should have known it wiuld have been
The plastic of course. Maybe there's a film on it to keep it moving easily? Maybe it contains trace amounts of asbestos or some chemical? ::shrug::
I got this:
Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...
silly idiots...why would someone need permission..it's the WORLD WIDE FREAK'N WEB!
"Just Smile and Nod." --Huck
It was on a gaming site.
I thought it was far too lame to submit to slashdot.
I guess I need to rethink slashdot's lameness level.
"Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Hahahahahaha! We took the fuckers out! This is what their site says now:
"Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
I didn't realize you needed permission to link so someone's site. That's what you get for signing up for the "Cheap Ass" package from your web host.
There was this company that did EXACTLY what you are describing- and for the reasons of sites being Slashdotted. They burned some 70 million dollars in one year's time partly because they couldn't figure out how to sell the service (They kept trying to sell the dynamic content handling features when they should have been going directly after Akamai's business and then some...) and partly because the whole system was kind-of pricey to implement.
Why do I know about all of this? I used to work for this comany in question (epicRealm) and they laid off most of thier staff so they could change business plans from a content delivery network to an app accelerator (which the idea in question DOES work well at).
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...
When are you guys going to take a fucking hint?
You my friend need Peacefire
And yet it happens again that brainless editors at /. do not care about whether a server can take up on a DDoS coming from a /. post, but they just go and take another site down. /. when we cant reach that site and see what's the post about. It's time someone puts some brains into empty heads of /. editors and kick them in the butt too. And /. should offer mirroring service for those sites who can't take the /. effect out of professional courtesy.
So how does that help us, readers of
my $0.02
Oh bull. A group of (image-laden) pages on my site got posted to Slashdot last year and it wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah, I had a few hundred thousand visitors, but that's why I have a hosting company that doesn't suck. So that people can actually -- gasp! -- get to what I put online.
If you don't want people to access their content, either don't put it on the Net or restrict access to it.
Buncha friggin' whiners...
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
A lot. Slashdot will never provide mirrors of the sites that they crush though. Why? Certainly not because of all of the technical issues listed in the FAQ... not even because of laziness. The simple reason is money. With a single post on slashdot being able to rapidly crush the allotted bandwidth of a midsize site, can you imagine the cost if Slashdot had to pay for all that bandwidth themselves? Furthermore, Slashdot can ONLY make money by collecting ad revenues for content links, without ever having to generate/host any content themselves. I.E. 1) Some guy put's a funny thing on the internet for his small loyal band of friends/admirers to laugh at. 2) Slashdot posts it, in order to generate more pageloads on their site for viewing the story and comments on the story. 3) The burden/cost of serving the content is born by the third party, who is often times noncommercial, and in some cases bears an EXTREME cost for exceeding his allotted bandwidth. 4) Slashdot makes money, the person who provides the content to allow them to do so loses out. 5) I imagine it's only a matter of time before the first person decides to do the research and find an approach which would allow suit for damages. In summary, Slashdot's business model as a .COM instead of a .ORG is grossly abusive. Think of it as a grand version of those people who build a porn site entirely from offsite image links. Were I a webmaster with anything accessible to the public, I would definitely reconfigure my server to redirect anyone with a referer from Slashdot to a very tiny ascii picture of my wang.
Of course, this doesn't mean I'll stop reading :)
a set of Appple OS 7.5.2 disks. The best part is minus disk tools there are thirteen disks.
Thirteen disks , thirteen Constitution Class Starships from the original show.
Damn I am such a dork.
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If they can't pay the bill, guess that means they don't need a webserver.
Isn't there any module to apache that would look up the HTTP referrer header of the request and if it comes from slashdot, display a minimum bandwidth ("slashdot sucks") version of the page?
i did heheh :D
...they could have been smart about it, and quickly changed it to a page of advertisements. That would probably have helped with their bandwidth bill.
Thanks for this mirror. When I saw how light the page was, I wondered how the site could have been slashdotted. Well, this is how:
This is still waaay under the bandwidth caps of most hosting accounts, but is probably more than anybody wants to serve in an hour. You've still got the rest of the month to go!
It all goes downhill from first post
Amazing but true...
John
I think anyone posting web pages/sites should be aware of the potential for the site attracting large numbers of viewers.
To think any other way is incredibly short-sighted!
Whether it's a surge in traffic brought about by one's "2 minutes of fame" on Slashdot, or simply because your new business starts catching on and everyone wants more info on your latest product - it's always a situation to consider.
I understand some people might simply be hosting their site off a home DSL connection, using personal web server or whatnot. Still, I'd expect these people to simply take the site down completely if it was innundated with traffic the bandwidth couldn't handle - and perhaps to seek out folks to kindly mirror it for them. Swapping your original pages with a page attacking Slashdot (or anyone else) for linking to it is in bad taste.
Apppently some people do see Slashdotting as a DOS attack.
> If you don't want it viewed without permission, shouldn't you password protect it?
That's not what they asked. Maybe you should *read* what you have quoted.
> What is the differnce between slashdot handing out the link versus say... Google?
Google people know they will not put down a site just by linking to it, because the links they provide depend on (ramdom) requests. Slashdot people do know they link to sites unable to handle the load *Slashdot* is going to create. (a link from Google is *nothing* in comparison)
It doesn't look like the Enterprise to me, the warp nacelle pylons, warp nacelle, and engineering hull are all wrong. But I'm a picky ship critic.
Slashdot: Playing Favorites Since 1997
I don't get it. These guys put up a site, /. links to it, the site goes down do to heavy traffic. Perhaps they shouldn't have put the site up in the first place? The web is a *public* place folks. If they wanted to prevent it, they should've password protected it.
/. has prevented viewing of important stuff.
Anyways, I think it is funny that these guys act like
-Sean
Google dont have a problem with legal issues when caching web pages.
Sorry but thems the breaks. You don't have to ask to link to someone's page. If you put up something in public space, people are free to link to it. I thought most services just refused access to your page if you went over your bandwidth anyways.
I hope you're not pretending to be evil while secretly being good. That would be dishonest.
No, its called not everyone is a rich fucker who can afford the bandwidth. Slashdot could be costing this guy hundreds of extra dollars because of Slashdot's subbron refusal to mirror
If one more IRC fuck-stick uses /me again I'm gonna hunt them down and bitch-slap them.
/me hands btlzu2 a trout
People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
If you're tempted to do something like this at work, be aware that your cow-orkers may make fun of you over this. Be ready to defend your Trekliness if fighting breaks out. And by all means, if you do respond to any teasing for your devotion to all things Trek, please make sure that your cow-orkers know who to forward the mail to. The world will thank you :-)
DO NOT LEAVE IT IS NOT REAL
> I didn't realize you needed permission to link so someone's site.
You don't need permission to link. You're juste not allowed to DOS someone else's site. And Slashdot editors *knew* they would DOS the site.
They really should be sued for this.
Once /. realizes they've completely creamed the feckfeck out of someones page, what's the harm in removing <a href=""></a> from the link? The story will remain posted, but not generate that ton of traffic from people who click links "because they're there". /. was smart enough to write slashcode, I'm sure they could come up with a bit of perl that only activated the link after it was moved off the front page. Hell, come up with a little superscript (2) like everything2 uses to signify it's a time delayed link.
I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.
So what would you have done if /. had contacted you first?
Take the page away?
Take the machine offline?
Bitch?
Moan?
Ask them to pay your bandwidth bill or not link?
I'm not buying your "common decency" debate. Tell me how you'd have handled it. Bonus points will be awarded for a really creative tall tale.
Man, they sure are whiny about being linked to.
I'm sure it sucked.
...so, why does people replying to your sig annoy you?
Zed's dead baby. Zed's dead.
Here's a link to how to make it on this Geoshitties page.
"Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
Now, how lame is that? "Without asking the owners", oh please...
1 Earth is warming, 2 It's us, 3 it's royally bad, 4 we need to take action NOW
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 17:55:40 +0000 From: Bob To: bonnie@asciipr0n.com Subject: No link?? Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to... Maybe you should stay away from the internet you stupid fuck! Wait.. Maybe you got something there... Let's remove all links and pull the fucking plug on your weak ass host, bitch! Stick to making shit with floppies and forget about posting anything to the web you fucking retard. yeah thanks bonnie i made the site, it got slashdotted, the host got whiny
http://sloth.flatface.net:441/~flatface/ent.jpg
This is the most useful thing I've done with a floppy for the past 3 years.
print to pdf and use bit torrent instead assh0les
"...we're a bunch of star trek nerds and we will eat up anything having to do with startrek"
visit this site to see how to turn your arse into a klingon wormhole: HERE!!!
The difference between CNN linking to a site and /. linking to a site is that there is no such thing as the "CNN Effect" while the "Slashdot Effect" is such a well-known phenomenon it has been written up by a university physicist.
We're not talking an occasional spike in traffic: everytime /. links to an article, that site is hit and hit hard. With the current linking policy (i.e. none), /. inadvertently becomes a DoS portal with us slashdrones the zombified clients.
/. should have taken care of this a long time ago.
blog
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I've suggested this but Taco Shot it down.
I personally think every story posted should go into a users journal.
That way people can develop fan clubs and post good info all day long instead of being shot down by the editors.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
Take the authors advice and try mirroring the sites you link to. Or at least chip in for the bandwidth costs, Since you did link to his site with no warning.
Slashdot's irresponsible linking must stop. Having Slashdot link to your site is like getting a huge DDoS attack.
Yep! asciipr0n.com sure showed Slashdot! Now the Slashdot readers will never get to know the true pleasure of boring digitized images of Playboy models circa 1970. What a blow to boredom and lameness everywhere!
But there's an additional, ultimate irony about this. They're complaining that Slashdot linked to them without permission, asciipr0n.com has a link to ASCII Art Farts but never asked for permission themselves! Um, a little hypocritical, maybe?
You should try making things out of those old coaxual terminators (like these ones http://www.d-m.com/images/coaxcon.gif ) You can make heaps of cool things like robots out of them and lots of places have them left over as they have moved onto cat-5.
cat
>To think any other way is incredibly short-sighted!
That's incredibly oversimplified. Everyone knows that nothing is simply black and white.
If I wanted to host a small text file that said "Hello Slashdot viewers," would I look for the best server/provider I can find?
Maybe if I'm stupid. I'm not.
>Swapping your original pages with a page attacking Slashdot (or anyone else) for linking to it is in bad taste.
So if Slashdot causes you to pay extra fees for extra bandwidth usage, you wouldn't be a little pissed off?
Just the fact that you are forced to take your website down should piss you off to some degree.
"Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
That would be the polite thing to do. You wouldn't have to mirror the entire site, just the first page that is linked to would be fine (including images of course). The mirror should stay up as long as the original page is linked from the front page of slashdot.org. After the story moves off the front page the mirror could be deleted and the link would point to the original site.
I know this could be expensive for slashdot.org, but maybe it would lead to some Quality over Quantity for stories that actually get posted here.
Sounds familiar, matter of fact, I said the very same thing :)
damn these guys guys are touchy .....crap about mirroring sites and permission to link.
Whats the world coming to?....repsonilbility?(sp)
lick the cancle button (at least thats what our Chinese QA says)
I hate websites who reckon that all sites should ask them before linking to them, it goes against the whole philosophy of the internet.
And that would solve the 5000 pound gorilla problem. --People getting hammered with unexpected $500 over-run fees? That'd screw some people pretty badly. (Does this still happen? Do Hosting companies still nail people like that?)
Either way, the Gods Of Slashdot should look into it. It think it's a solid idea. It's responsible.
And anyway, I sooo wanted to see a starship made out of junk. It is a slow day. .
-Fantastic Lad
Everyone's griping about the whole mirroring situation and lack of a policy.
;) Sound good?
This story presented a good way for ISOs to be distributed.
Everyone and their grandma is looking for a way to "legitimize" P2P sharing without involving music.
Why doesn't slashdot start a P2P mirror. Simple gzip the page that's cool to look at, and host it via bittorrent or kazaa. Bandwidth gets shared among the slashdot community, and no site gets hit too hard (except google, which will invaribly be linked to by people who insist on posting google cache links in nearly every discussion
The problem with mirroring sites is the whole copyright issue. In order to mirror the site, slashdot would have to make sure they were not displaying any copyrighted information without permission. So they would have to not only obtain permission from the site author to copy his information, but to be safe, they would have to make sure they weren't displaying any copyrighted information themselves.
By the time the process was done it wouldn't be news anymore.
-> Fritz
Spooooon!!!!!
I just made a Klingon battle cruiser out of an old Zip® disk. Picture below:
Woops. I guess it's cloaked.
Not anymore it's not!
--civil disobedience has an honored and checkered past, both of those things. The civil rights movement as a recent example. Under these new laws, you would have needed to put millions of people into "camps". Would that have been correct? Which was truly the larger crime, millions of people victimized for generations by government, or some of the protests they did? The beginnings AND the end of liquid drugs-alcohol-prohibition were accompanied by mass protests that at times "blocked the streets". Arrested those millions, 25 to life? Women's suffrage for the vote, so they actually could be represented in a representative republic (it's not a democracy in the US in theory). US veterans after ww1 camping out in washington DC, "blocking" this or that as they strove for anything, any scraps, to ease them through the depression. Lots of examples, would we put all those people in camps from 25 years to a life sentence? You would, because they blocked your street in a protest? Or breaking a window? Hmm, I am thinking, say i was some black guy way back then, I am told I can't vote, even though the law says I can, I know i can be caught in the white side of town and beat up or lynched, even by members of the government, and no one will care. personally, I would have thought stronger things than just marrching and breaking glass were in order, thnakfully millions more just took it, kept it to a more civil manner, and shamed millions of other americans into finally admitting that perhaps they had a point or two to make. Was it really all that wrong?
Now , conversely, why is it "legal" that 50,000 people are "allowed" to completely "block traffic" and generally screw it up at all the surrounding streets at professional sports stadiums? Because there's money involved? Suppose you don't like that sport or team, suppose that you have business, need to get someplace, and just wish to get from point A to B across town, but the roads are hoplessly blocked artifically? I happen to like individual sports of some kinds, but I detest team sports, professional or (ha ha) non professional college team sports. Can't tell ya how many times I have been blocked by those yahoos. Oh, the diofference is they never get drunk and stupid and violent and trash cars and stores over a freaking ball game? Hmm, well, yes they do a lot of times. How exactly then is that different? Under this new law, 25 to life for the entire crowd at the stadium under the oregon law, re-read the fine print in that thing again, it's in there. Or some concert, pick any genre, just the big crowds, again, artifically blocking somone's "way", and definetly planned and organized in advance,a "conspiracy" if you will, but still, a hassle if you don't want to participate and just be on your way? What gives them the right to do that, to subvert government, impede others business and travel, and get away with it? Oh ya, "money", the organizers pay bribes or "permits" to the government so that they can infringe on my rights, but see, with the bribe it's "legal" then, and a lot of people think it's cool, but a lot more DON'T, but the blocking still occurs, yes? How about when some bogus fatcat VIP and his equally bogus entourage have the roads blocked so they can cruise by in their Limos? Is that "legal" to do? It happens, why is that not "blocking the normal traffic"?
The reason why mass "civil" disobedience needs to be tolerated occassionally is, even if that particular action is not one of anyone "yours" pet peeves, is quite simple, it's usually about the last straw for redress of grievences that some x-huge numbers of people have after exhausting all other normal legal avenues to be heard,when "the vote" and letters to the editor and haranguing their reps and yada yada just plain hasn't worked, and them desiring to become "unvictimized" or for some other reason of serious import. This "civil disobedience" comes as the last step before before mass "uncivil" disobedience occurs, as a general historical note of data. Look around the world, places tha
Accually your very correct.. The site didn't crash, everyone got to see his little tirad about "not asking Permission" If the guy get's a bill for going over his Bandwidth limit it's the price he pays for not just pulling the plug... :)
Just Limin' Mon
On April 1st, two DJs were arrested after announcing that eminem would be appearing at a local biglots, causing a huge number of people to show up at biglots.
The DJs were charged with both fraud (because it was an april fools joke) and deprevation of business (because they effectively shut down biglots)
It's only a matter of time before slashdot gets sued for slashdotting a website.
If anything, slashdot is repeatedly guilty of orchestrating DoS attacks.
i bet hundreds of floppy disks are now dead because of you people! how would you like if come one came and turned you into an Enterprise! I my self would like it very much. :P
>can you imagine the cost if Slashdot had to pay for all that bandwidth themselves?
Yes and no. Slashdot has already posted bittorrent files before. If the editor thinks the site might fail he could zip it and torrent it. Put it up on a some server and let the slashdot community swarm.
Slashdot could do a lot to raise awareness for the bittorrent project.
Read this comment A ddos attack is just that, an attack. Linking is perfectly legal and it's part of the framework of the internet.
I hope you're not pretending to be evil while secretly being good. That would be dishonest.
That page is back up, you have to copy the link and open it in a new browser though. If you follow the link directly from the article you get a pretty amusing alternative. ;)
The facts remain:
As far as rallys and protests go, those against the war are far less attended than those who support the war. [glennbeck.com]
Poll after poll after poll [washingtonpost.com] has shown an overwhelming support for the President and the war.
The war protestors are in a clear minority, are being dealt no injustice, and want to circumvent the political process with violence and economic disruption. This should be very illegal. All of these protests you mentioned were heald because there was no other way of correcting an injustice. The law-breaking done by anti-war protestors is the result of a minority wanting to write foreign policy, undermine the current elected government, and force the will of the minority on the rest of the people. That's the difference.
Facts? Propaganda pushed by a small cabal of high ranking public and private people to distort, deny and obfuscate some of the origins of the 9-11 attacks, to keep some of the high level involvement by white guys in suits out of the US consciousness as much as possible? We are supposed to ignore the evidence that exists that show this? Facts like both saddam and osama are creations of and funded by these same people? That the KLA we armed, trained and supported was just another example of a narco terrorist gang being used as mercenaries, and that these people were in fact "al queda bad guys"? We are supposed to reward the people and shadowy political/military/industrial groups who armed and supported and trained the various "terrorists" we are fighting now? We are supposed to ignore the fact of trillions of dollars and mass political command and control as being part of the over-all big picture? Past overwhelming evidence of high level scams and lies being used to nudge nations into actions?
The hegelian dialectic is alive and well, and is part of the new "war on everything" which means the very rights we are supposedly "protecting" in the middle east are now seriously being trampled on and denied to the US people. Exactly how dumbed down are some of us supposed to go? Is there a bottom cut off limit anyplace?
Yes, the polls do indeed indicate a majority of the US people are not aware of any of that reality and awreness and information, and that they can be easily swayed with jingoism and advanced and sophisticated advertising. I am not lauding that as some sort of proof or something to be proud of, in fact, I am seriously embarrased over my own nations over-all level of awareness and sophistication.
Yes, osama and saddam are some serious badguys, no argument there. I think first we should prosecute the white guys in suits who armed and supplied them for years, to expose all the evidence, not just bits and pieces of the evidence that "they" want us to be focused on, then we can show the world the US is both honest and righteous again. Go to war then if needs be, do it legally and according to our real laws, but not before then.
Do that, and do it honestly, you'll see "the polls" reflect a slightly different set of "beliefs".
The URLs for all I have said and allude to have been posted repeatedly on slashdot, no need to repost them. Even a simple google search on "government prior knowledge, 9-11" or similar will take you to any number of places that have the evidence, said evidence not being shown to the US public in any meaningful way. There are deliberate lies, and lying by omission, those "polls" show what happens when both those techniques are used on a mass scale against a targeted audience.
You want a war against the "badguys", I can agree. Before that war though let's do a bit more "uncovering" of some basic truths, and not go off half cocked in reichstagg induced mania version 2.0. Let's not stop looking at just people who speak arabic and farsi, let's keep looking at people who speak american english, british english, russian, chinese, hebrew and yiddish, german, french, spanish and so on, at whatever level it takes, and let the chips fall
Everythings a conspiracy, isn't it? Sounds like the mind confusing tactics of a Dictator hell bent on denying the facts and explaining them away with fuzzy logic and conspiracy theories.
Also, where do you get off calling everyone stupid. This country was founded on the principle that the public could be trusted to rule themselves. Your comments are proof of the fact that you hate democracy and you hate America.
Whenever you see pro-war rallies, you see Americans wrapped in American flags singing American songs. Whenever you see anti-war protestors you see foreign flags, and hatred for our American leader.
Excuse me for believing in the American vision that a people could rule themselves. Will you please be my dictator?
This isn't the sig you are looking for... Carry on...
ONE friking diskette in the hole office!
hmmm... what's that?
"HP Laserjet Drivers"?
hmmmmmmmmmmm
"If I have been able to see so far, It is because I went out and bought a damn binoculars" - Ze da Esquina
This certainly is "News for Nerds"
now, how about some "Stuff that matters" ?
What? Me? Worry?
All web sites should pay a million dollars a month for unlimited t-1000 bandwith in case /. ever links to them so no one has to go without learning how to make a spaceship out of a floppy disk!
you can turn the floppy into a starship WITHOUT using scissors if you wrap the head mast supports "wrapped around the top from the bottom and putting the 'very thin' strips through the center hole in the ship bridge/head"
-- Betting on the survival of the media industry is a serious risk. I advise investing elsewhere.
--I don't deal in theory, I deal in data. Data. Facts. Not reactionary and racist jingoism. Insults gain you nothing, and I have no desire to rule you, but the contrary is true, don't even think about trying to rule me, even if they give you a nice new brownshirt uniform.
Basically, take your political ludditism and shove it, now go play with the other "good germans" in your "neighborhood watch group". And by all means keep waving those plastic flags made in china, that's just so patriotic.
You want civility, offer it, you offer a closed fist and demand I kowtow to some absurd 6th grade level drunken political analysis, wrapped in a flag that you claim as your own but deny to anyone not a lock stepper with your own points of view, well, you can have it. I don't support dictators, especially dictators in my own nation. You can support them all you want to, and stay ignorant of verifiable data. Rah rah rah go team, nuke those filthy ay-rabs, right?
Oh, that doesn't apply to you, but "my kind" are..whatever you think? Like how dare anyone expend an effort to go beyond a surface level understanding of events?
I dare, too bad.
Go ahead and get your "das fatherland security" last word. I'm done on this thread, keep on trolling, hey, maybe a job will come up you can become an interrogator, get to use those nifty "stress and duress" techniques, just like saddam's bully boys and the bully boys at gitmo use? Right up your alley, good luck in your new career!
This country was founded with checks and balances on the populace itself, hence the electoral college. Sorry, but we were *not* "founded on the principle that the public could be trusted to rule themselves".
-uso.
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which, BTW, I got from a link posted at the
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I think it would also lower the number of dupes, which is one of the reasons it won't happen.
Dear Emily, what about test messages?
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