The example of Scientology should provide motivation to AVOID the idea of making this a religion.
More logically the idea that we need blind faith to believe in the concept that information should be free is nonsense. A logical evidence based reasoning process is all that is needed.
Jury nullification is a two edged sword. During the '50s and '60s several heinous crimes against black people in the South went unpunished because white juries nullified.
Republican Politicians in Ohio are wondering where fossil fuels come from in the first place as the 6000 years since the flood clearly hasn't been long enough for them to form from natural processes.
Nah, it will just encourage people to perform non-driving tasks while behind the wheel, such as apply eye makeup, shave, eat breakfast, text, look at other people in car while talking, sleep, and so forth.
Under the law, individuals face up to 15 years in prison for providing "material support" to FTOs, even if their work is intended to promote peaceful, lawful objectives. "Material support" is defined to include any "service," "training," "expert advice or assistance" or "personnel."
HP's problem is worse than just having a bad CEO. They have a screwed up board of directors which means they are in the process of hiring a stream of bad CEOs, or if they should happen to get a decent one, firing him for a minor transgression when they should be working to keep him.
There is no way that I would purchase anything significant from, work for, or invest in HP at this point in time.
While I despise the TSA, their X-Ray machines use a very very small amount of radiation to perform their scans.
From the article you cited:
"Those tests show that the Secure 1000 delivers an extremely low dose of radiation, less than 10 microrems. The dose is roughly one-thousandth of a chest X-ray and equivalent to the cosmic radiation received in a few minutes of flying at typical cruising altitude. The TSA has used those measurements to say the machines are âoesafe.â'
Normal terrestrial background radiation exposure is 90-200 millrems per year.
So you are saying that if you are a health care professional you can tackle me on the street and give me CPR despite that fact that I am screaming NO at the time?
I think not. You have the right to refuse medical treatment. Of course if you are uncommunicative there is an assumption of consent.
>So you admit that the US did steal. At least we can agree on that.
Stealing implies several things, one of which is a physical loss and another is breaking of a law. As many copyright and patent opponents here have told me many times, copyright and patent infringement are not stealing.
>So, you are saying that if a nation is at war with you then it is not immoral to steal their technology?
"Immoral" is a slippery slope. One could say war per se is immoral. What I will say is that I know of no historical case where nations at war observed each others patents. In general there is a Sovereign Exemption which governments exploit to utilize patented technology within their `own particular legal framework. This Sovereign Exemption is of course in full force during war.
> so cyberwar counts as a reason to steal?
Cyberwar has not been equated to conventional war yet.
>so it is ok for the Chinese and Iranians to steal tech from the US then?
Depends on your point of view. I am sure the Iranians like the idea.
> would it have been ok for the Japanese to steal US tech in 1940? of course not
Why do you say "of course not"? The Japanese had been working for about a century to acquire as much western technology as possible, since the Convention of Kanagawa in 1854. At one point they imported 3000 westerners to help upgrade their technology.
Remember, "stealing technology" is a superset of patent infringement.
>I'm trying to point out the contradiction in your position 'that is ok to steal' because there is some (weak) justification?
There is no contradiction. I am pointing out some historical facts.
More hopefully the farmer will actually engage in the growing practices recommended by the EPA and Monsanto which are generally effective in preventing the insects from acquiring resistance.
If you read the article the places where insect resistance are occurring is where farmers are just ignoring basic stuff like crop rotation etc.
From the article it appears that this is due to farmers not following EPA and Monsanto recommendations and engaging in practices such as replanting the same corn variety many years in succession in the same field.
This is of course stupid and will lead to problems no matter what crop you are planting as pests for that particular crop will accumulate over time in that replanted field.
What is actually more impressive is the stupidity of your argument. If the GM corn pest resistance becomes ineffective there is of course no reason to continue purchasing it thereby harming Monsanto's revenues. And the so-called upgraded pests will not have resistance to the new pesticides used in conjunction with non-BT corn.
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>U.S. manufacturing has mostly been outsourced overseas
Myth. The US is the largest manufacturing nation in the world.
http://shopfloor.org/2011/03/u-s-manufacturing-remains-worlds-largest/18756
Economists have long known that there are only two fundamental contributors to real economic growth.
1. Population growth.
2. Technological growth.
Put the kibosh on the second and you are in a world of hurt. This is exactly what the USA has been doing for the last 30 years.
http://www.viodi.com/2011/02/27/can-u-s-reverse-the-decline-in-rd-spending-global-competitiveness-at-risk/
The example of Scientology should provide motivation to AVOID the idea of making this a religion.
More logically the idea that we need blind faith to believe in the concept that information should be free is nonsense. A logical evidence based reasoning process is all that is needed.
Jury nullification is a two edged sword. During the '50s and '60s several heinous crimes against black people in the South went unpunished because white juries nullified.
Rome has been sacked several times. Attributing the fall of Rome to one of these events is poppycock.
Republican Politicians in Ohio are wondering where fossil fuels come from in the first place as the 6000 years since the flood clearly hasn't been long enough for them to form from natural processes.
I call bullshit. Long term cap gains taxes are 15%.
Bullocks. Rome took centuries to fall.
Yes, but they are profitable now, and in addition the people who actually use these standards pay for them.
Nationalization it isn't likely to improve on this situation.
Nah, it will just encourage people to perform non-driving tasks while behind the wheel, such as apply eye makeup, shave, eat breakfast, text, look at other people in car while talking, sleep, and so forth.
So? These are independent organizations that have to generate cash to survive. What would you have them do as an alternative?
A story from Dec 2010 obviously can't refute a claim made in June 2011 that the equipment was checked in May 2011.
Under the law, individuals face up to 15 years in prison for providing "material support" to FTOs, even if their work is intended to promote peaceful, lawful objectives. "Material support" is defined to include any "service," "training," "expert advice or assistance" or "personnel."
HP's problem is worse than just having a bad CEO. They have a screwed up board of directors which means they are in the process of hiring a stream of bad CEOs, or if they should happen to get a decent one, firing him for a minor transgression when they should be working to keep him.
There is no way that I would purchase anything significant from, work for, or invest in HP at this point in time.
It would be good however to short their stock.
While I despise the TSA, their X-Ray machines use a very very small amount of radiation to perform their scans.
From the article you cited:
"Those tests show that the Secure 1000 delivers an extremely low dose of radiation, less than 10 microrems. The dose is roughly one-thousandth of a chest X-ray and equivalent to the cosmic radiation received in a few minutes of flying at typical cruising altitude. The TSA has used those measurements to say the machines are âoesafe.â'
Normal terrestrial background radiation exposure is 90-200 millrems per year.
Not always.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Airways_Flight_49
Microwave radiation is not ionizing.
Copyright covers an expression, not an implementation (the domain of a patent).
All that is necessary is for someone to rewrite the description of how to do the test, and disclaim copyright. Voila, the problem is solved.
So you are saying that if you are a health care professional you can tackle me on the street and give me CPR despite that fact that I am screaming NO at the time?
I think not. You have the right to refuse medical treatment. Of course if you are uncommunicative there is an assumption of consent.
>So you admit that the US did steal. At least we can agree on that.
Stealing implies several things, one of which is a physical loss and another is breaking of a law. As many copyright and patent opponents here have told me many times, copyright and patent infringement are not stealing.
>So, you are saying that if a nation is at war with you then it is not immoral to steal their technology?
"Immoral" is a slippery slope. One could say war per se is immoral. What I will say is that I know of no historical case where nations at war observed each others patents. In general there is a Sovereign Exemption which governments exploit to utilize patented technology within their `own particular legal framework. This Sovereign Exemption is of course in full force during war.
> so cyberwar counts as a reason to steal?
Cyberwar has not been equated to conventional war yet.
>so it is ok for the Chinese and Iranians to steal tech from the US then?
Depends on your point of view. I am sure the Iranians like the idea.
> would it have been ok for the Japanese to steal US tech in 1940? of course not
Why do you say "of course not"? The Japanese had been working for about a century to acquire as much western technology as possible, since the Convention of Kanagawa in 1854. At one point they imported 3000 westerners to help upgrade their technology.
Remember, "stealing technology" is a superset of patent infringement.
>I'm trying to point out the contradiction in your position 'that is ok to steal' because there is some (weak) justification?
There is no contradiction. I am pointing out some historical facts.
More hopefully the farmer will actually engage in the growing practices recommended by the EPA and Monsanto which are generally effective in preventing the insects from acquiring resistance.
If you read the article the places where insect resistance are occurring is where farmers are just ignoring basic stuff like crop rotation etc.
What you describe is assault. Hopefully you reported it to the police plus filed a civil suit.
From the article it appears that this is due to farmers not following EPA and Monsanto recommendations and engaging in practices such as replanting the same corn variety many years in succession in the same field.
This is of course stupid and will lead to problems no matter what crop you are planting as pests for that particular crop will accumulate over time in that replanted field.
I, for one am ready to acknowledge the dominance of our new cockroach masters.
What is actually more impressive is the stupidity of your argument. If the GM corn pest resistance becomes ineffective there is of course no reason to continue purchasing it thereby harming Monsanto's revenues. And the so-called upgraded pests will not have resistance to the new pesticides used in conjunction with non-BT corn.
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