That _used_ to be true until late '95 or so... I have a couple of 14.4 USR Sportsters with the 80188 on 'em.
However there was a _huge_ fiasco when they first tried to make the DSP do all the work (and used soldered non-flashable ROMS) - they built a TON of basically useless 28.8 modems.
It was obvious for some time that the 820 and RAMbus was a bad idea. I was really hoping Intel would come to their senses and move it to PC133 - for instance the 810 performs well... if you use a real video card.
Alas, now that means the early PC133 systems are going to be paired up with the 810e, which if they didn't add ECC support and external AGP support is gonna be lame. (The taiwanese don't like the 810 much either.)
I wonder how this is going to affect Micron's 533B/600B annoucement - since they decided to opt for the VIA PC133 chipset.:)
Oh, and you can actually use a Celeron with the VIA Apollo Pro 133. Heh.
Sounds like you need to get a VHS copy first, and then run it through some sort of MPEG-1 encoder (unless you can get an MPEG-2 encoder:) and then burn it onto a CD-R. Alas, the CD-R won't last as long as the film has...
Also, definitely stick with some sort of MPEG format - since the specs and source code for sample implementations are available computers will be able to handle MPEGs for a _long_ time... unlike some other formats.
MO media is probably going to last longer - might want to get one of those drives.
In "Microserfs" by Douglas Coupland the characters talked about getting barcode tatoos (and rejecting the idea thinking it might become unfashionable later) - and then one of the characters meets on-line a female-geek (who didn't state her gender on-line) who went by 'Barcode'... who just happens to have one...:)
Wouldn't be suprised if this idea was covered in there...
I found that the default one comes with 4 DIMMs, 3 PCI (small by PC standards), a 82559 10/100 Ethernet controller, and ISA Crystal Sound chip (I'd MUCH rather have a Creative ES1373 PCI chip, which is what Intel et. al. use now) Looks like it can only control 4 PCI devices, so a board using a PCI-PCI (or AGP->PCI66) bridge would probably be a Good Thing.
That's mostly just nit-picking though... I was drooling over the MPC750 specs... 6watts at 466mhz, with copper technology, nifty. Probably would work fine w/o a fan.:) (A 7500 with Altivec would be even cooler, but IBM isn't going to officially mention it in the design, alas.)
Regardless of what he thought about Linux and/or Perl, he was a very influential person on the Linux/*BSD scene, even though he was not an actual Linux/*BSD coder - his books have taught a lot of 'real' techies much of what they know about system calls and networking. Ya' don't see writers like him everyday, or every year.
The torch isn't going to be passed for a long time, folks.
-Chad,
Rather disusted by a lot of the posts, even some which weren't lowered to -1.
Sounds like you need more cooling on your Cyrix chip, maybe your voltage regs too. If it can't take the heat with POVray CTP will probably overload it too. Also if you have a mobo with weak reguators you should upgrade that too. Then you can also get a cheap K6-2.:)
Seriously, they should then give out a different name to be used with NON-official Red Hat Linux. A lot of names come to mind... "A Red Hat based GNU system", "Black Cat Linux", "Old Hat", "Free Hat", "Red Hut", or maybe even just a (penguin logo) in the vein of that Prince symbol whatchamacallit.
Linus is, for better or worse, a celebrity of a sort... people are going to keep asking him dumb questions (and, to be fair, smart ones) and he's just going to be completely overwhelmed. It's basically a choice of him answering questions at random, or actually getting something done.
Since he's apparently choosing the latter, it's obvious success hasn't gotten to his head... and least not too much.:) (I'd be shocked if it didn't get to his head at all - it would get to practically anyone's head.)
Well, the way things are going it looks like the PPC750 is going to be used as a LinChip on those IBM boxes, unless there are OS's that I'm forgetting which will also run on those motherboards.
(Well, supposedly (according to Alan Cox) the WinChip is actually rather customizable and might even be able to say "LinChip". Not that I'd buy one, now that AMD K6-2s and Celery(-2)'s are so cheap.)
Um, do you actually know what a Celeron is? They're basically Pentium Pros with 128K cache using current fab technology, with the cache completely on-chip, MMX, and the mhz massively cranked up.:) So while you don't get perfect clock scaling vis-a-vis a PPro, it's not that far off at all, even doing kernel compiles. (A P2/P3 dosen't match a PPro clock-for-clock either because of their slow caches)
Note that when OC'ed to an x/100 speed the Celeron benchmarks similarly to a P2 of the same speed... this implies that the core could have been used as a regular Pentium II. (Intel could have said something like 'it's getting too expensive to build off-chip cache P2's now.')
Also, there's a rumor floating around that Cadence (which designed the Celeron-A core) built in 256K cache, but Intel is disabling half of that on purpose. (This is from the # of transistors among other things) This sorta makes sense in that the current laptop P2's are basically 256K cache Celerons.
In short, the Celeron is really a bit of a preview for the next-generation P3's which will also have 256K on-die cache. It's just that Intel needed something cheap to sell.
Actually the Celeron and P3's come off of the same (or similar) lines, but are different chips... my guess is that if it weren't for AMD the Celeron 300A would have been labeled (and priced as) the Pentium II/450.:)
Humm... I think this means that each OEM can customize their set-top boxes. OTOH, it wouldn't be that difficult to shoe-horn a consumer OS into NTSC, it would just be a matter of making sure the software didn't use small text and things like that.
Also, embedded these days means 'anything that isn't a PC':) This can be anything from a telco platform to a set-top box to your microwave. The basic assumption is that the user can't reprogram it at will like they can with a regular PC.
Back in The Day(tm) (actually before I really started using Linux at all...) there was the SLS distro, which served largely as a basis for Patrick V. to come out with Slackware. The guy who started SLS whined about how Pat got the glory for taking his distro and adding some scripts (and IMO fixing it up quite a bit) and calling it a different name. Of course, the fact that SLS never really got fixed/updated made it irrelevant in the 1.0.x kernel era.
And now, ppl are using other distros than Slackware, oft because of their new features (such as more sophisticated packaging systems)
The moral of the story: In the Linux distro community, evolve or become irrelevant. If Red Hat falls behind the curve so to speak others such as Mandrake will pick up the slack and take over.
It's really cool that the IBM design is being picked up, but we also need to see some good commodity boards (e.g. Asus, etc.) so that one can just walk to the store and come out with all the parts needed to build a system.
The nice thing (if there is a silver lining) about the impending Intel BX/ZX* chipset shortage (it sounds really nasty, BTW) is that mobo makers are going to either have to scale back production, or make more alternative platforms like Athlon-boards or PPC baords.
(* - these are the two most viable chipsets for building an Intel P6-based box. Especially if the BX is constrained, it's going to get tougher to build a nice P3, or even Celeron box.)
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They sell the same product, just under a different brand name. Just another way they dupe ppl. :)
That _used_ to be true until late '95 or so... I have a couple of 14.4 USR Sportsters with the 80188 on 'em.
However there was a _huge_ fiasco when they first tried to make the DSP do all the work (and used soldered non-flashable ROMS) - they built a TON of basically useless 28.8 modems.
- Chad
And what's with that desktop integration? It's a ploy to make 486's obsolete, that's what it is.
And I thought it was a ploy to make P/200's running NT look like 486s. Which is what IE4 + Craptive Desktop did to one I had at work... :(
It's Viacom, for those of you who don't know. They're buying CBS. Guess they already talked Bunim Murray into making a show for 'em. :)
Now, if only they could get the MTV animation ppl to make shows for CBS...
Darn, those memory dealers are irresponsible. Even Fry's dosen't pull that junk, usually. (But I wouldn't put it past them)
Tip on Fry's RAM: The stuff they advertise is junk, and the good stuff is typically priced a bit high.
It was obvious for some time that the 820 and RAMbus was a bad idea. I was really hoping Intel would come to their senses and move it to PC133 - for instance the 810 performs well... if you use a real video card.
Alas, now that means the early PC133 systems are going to be paired up with the 810e, which if they didn't add ECC support and external AGP support is gonna be lame. (The taiwanese don't like the 810 much either.)
I wonder how this is going to affect Micron's 533B/600B annoucement - since they decided to opt for the VIA PC133 chipset. :)
Oh, and you can actually use a Celeron with the VIA Apollo Pro 133. Heh.
Sounds like you need to get a VHS copy first, and then run it through some sort of MPEG-1 encoder (unless you can get an MPEG-2 encoder :) and then burn it onto a CD-R. Alas, the CD-R won't last as long as the film has...
Also, definitely stick with some sort of MPEG format - since the specs and source code for sample implementations are available computers will be able to handle MPEGs for a _long_ time... unlike some other formats.
MO media is probably going to last longer - might want to get one of those drives.
Oddly enough the Domino's pizza here sells pepsi, and the pizza hut in the next block from that sells coke. Go figure.
In "Microserfs" by Douglas Coupland the characters talked about getting barcode tatoos (and rejecting the idea thinking it might become unfashionable later) - and then one of the characters meets on-line a female-geek (who didn't state her gender on-line) who went by 'Barcode'... who just happens to have one... :)
Wouldn't be suprised if this idea was covered in there...
I found that the default one comes with 4 DIMMs, 3 PCI (small by PC standards), a 82559 10/100 Ethernet controller, and ISA Crystal Sound chip (I'd MUCH rather have a Creative ES1373 PCI chip, which is what Intel et. al. use now) Looks like it can only control 4 PCI devices, so a board using a PCI-PCI (or AGP->PCI66) bridge would probably be a Good Thing.
That's mostly just nit-picking though... I was drooling over the MPC750 specs... 6watts at 466mhz, with copper technology, nifty. Probably would work fine w/o a fan. :) (A 7500 with Altivec would be even cooler, but IBM isn't going to officially mention it in the design, alas.)
Regardless of what he thought about Linux and/or Perl, he was a very influential person on the Linux/*BSD scene, even though he was not an actual Linux/*BSD coder - his books have taught a lot of 'real' techies much of what they know about system calls and networking. Ya' don't see writers like him everyday, or every year.
The torch isn't going to be passed for a long time, folks.
-Chad,
Rather disusted by a lot of the posts, even some which weren't lowered to -1.
Sounds like you need more cooling on your Cyrix chip, maybe your voltage regs too. If it can't take the heat with POVray CTP will probably overload it too. Also if you have a mobo with weak reguators you should upgrade that too. Then you can also get a cheap K6-2. :)
Seriously, they should then give out a different name to be used with NON-official Red Hat Linux. A lot of names come to mind... "A Red Hat based GNU system", "Black Cat Linux", "Old Hat", "Free Hat", "Red Hut", or maybe even just a (penguin logo) in the vein of that Prince symbol whatchamacallit.
The possibilities are endless, da?
"I think the days of building odd little computers from non-standard parts is over."
Yup... it's a heckuva lot easier to build odd little computers out of standard parts. :)
Well, we know Alan isn't the sort to use .doc files... :)
Freshmeat and slashdot have already been bought out by andover.net. Linux.com is owned by VA Linux... it's linux.org that is up for sale.
Lest anyone take it the wrong way, I meant to say 'at least not too much' :)
- Chad, who needs to start using the preview button. ;)
Linus is, for better or worse, a celebrity of a sort... people are going to keep asking him dumb questions (and, to be fair, smart ones) and he's just going to be completely overwhelmed. It's basically a choice of him answering questions at random, or actually getting something done.
Since he's apparently choosing the latter, it's obvious success hasn't gotten to his head... and least not too much. :) (I'd be shocked if it didn't get to his head at all - it would get to practically anyone's head.)
Well, the way things are going it looks like the PPC750 is going to be used as a LinChip on those IBM boxes, unless there are OS's that I'm forgetting which will also run on those motherboards.
(Well, supposedly (according to Alan Cox) the WinChip is actually rather customizable and might even be able to say "LinChip". Not that I'd buy one, now that AMD K6-2s and Celery(-2)'s are so cheap.)
Um, do you actually know what a Celeron is? They're basically Pentium Pros with 128K cache using current fab technology, with the cache completely on-chip, MMX, and the mhz massively cranked up. :) So while you don't get perfect clock scaling vis-a-vis a PPro, it's not that far off at all, even doing kernel compiles. (A P2/P3 dosen't match a PPro clock-for-clock either because of their slow caches)
Note that when OC'ed to an x/100 speed the Celeron benchmarks similarly to a P2 of the same speed... this implies that the core could have been used as a regular Pentium II. (Intel could have said something like 'it's getting too expensive to build off-chip cache P2's now.')
Also, there's a rumor floating around that Cadence (which designed the Celeron-A core) built in 256K cache, but Intel is disabling half of that on purpose. (This is from the # of transistors among other things) This sorta makes sense in that the current laptop P2's are basically 256K cache Celerons.
In short, the Celeron is really a bit of a preview for the next-generation P3's which will also have 256K on-die cache. It's just that Intel needed something cheap to sell.
Actually the Celeron and P3's come off of the same (or similar) lines, but are different chips... my guess is that if it weren't for AMD the Celeron 300A would have been labeled (and priced as) the Pentium II/450. :)
A dual Celery box is tantamount to OC'ing anyway. (It voids your warranty, and Intel Internet Support won't have anything to do with 'em. :) )
So, OCing and dualing Celeries go hand in hand... _but_ the tolerances are a lot tighter in an SMP setup.
Humm... I think this means that each OEM can customize their set-top boxes. OTOH, it wouldn't be that difficult to shoe-horn a consumer OS into NTSC, it would just be a matter of making sure the software didn't use small text and things like that.
Also, embedded these days means 'anything that isn't a PC' :) This can be anything from a telco platform to a set-top box to your microwave. The basic assumption is that the user can't reprogram it at will like they can with a regular PC.
Back in The Day(tm) (actually before I really started using Linux at all...) there was the SLS distro, which served largely as a basis for Patrick V. to come out with Slackware. The guy who started SLS whined about how Pat got the glory for taking his distro and adding some scripts (and IMO fixing it up quite a bit) and calling it a different name. Of course, the fact that SLS never really got fixed/updated made it irrelevant in the 1.0.x kernel era.
And now, ppl are using other distros than Slackware, oft because of their new features (such as more sophisticated packaging systems)
The moral of the story: In the Linux distro community, evolve or become irrelevant. If Red Hat falls behind the curve so to speak others such as Mandrake will pick up the slack and take over.
It's really cool that the IBM design is being picked up, but we also need to see some good commodity boards (e.g. Asus, etc.) so that one can just walk to the store and come out with all the parts needed to build a system.
The nice thing (if there is a silver lining) about the impending Intel BX/ZX* chipset shortage (it sounds really nasty, BTW) is that mobo makers are going to either have to scale back production, or make more alternative platforms like Athlon-boards or PPC baords.
(* - these are the two most viable chipsets for building an Intel P6-based box. Especially if the BX is constrained, it's going to get tougher to build a nice P3, or even Celeron box.)