Kazaa is 99% copyrighted material trading, don't kid yourself. It's for people that want to download mp3's and for people that want to download warez but our too stupid to understand newsgroups. So in this case removing the tool is a valid and sensible option. And in America, we do go after people that make the tools readily available. You don't think a "FREE UZI'S" store in Caprini Green would be ok do you? I mean, they're not killing people, just giving the tools away, right?
That's a different story altogether. It's easier to do with a massive operation like that, but when we single someone out from that country for punishment, it's a lot more present. Us paying a country to send in some troops is much easier to hide and ignore than us flying a single person into our country in chains.
It seems every year, I hear something about someone discovering "the planet after Pluto". How many times has the 10th planet been discovered now? Is this planet the same thing? Something new. I'm too friggin confused at this point.
Most of the countries in the world will accept our food and our military power, but none will be bought to change their laws. We can feed and protect a country till the end of time, but once we're paying them to punish their people to our wishes, we own them, and not a country on earth would allow that.
That is a sensitive problem. On one hand, as an American I really want to shake the "world's bully" image we seem to fitting into, yet on the other hand I dont' see the problem with terminating access to outside Kazaa servers, then cracking down on the local ones. You may not be able to punish the guy running the foreign server, but you can limit access to it from within our borders, thereby removing it as an offender. That way, the government has accomplised it's goal(music/software no longer traded through that route) without having to flex nuts at the foreign government in question.
You act like the RIAA is an artifical intelligence sitting in a server somewhere. The RIAA are fighting for their cause and their way of life. These things aren't stored on a computer. We're trying to make ourselves look intelligent and moral, not just re-inforce what they already think of us. This war will be won by us in a legal, grassroots way. People like you are the reason the majority of us aren't taken seriously. I for one would not desire to have someone like you on my side in this issue. You're negative and counter-productive.
As for your comment on how if anyone could do it, the/. crew could, you couldn't be more wrong. Not to talk shit, but people with the skill to go where they want and do what they wish on the net..this/. is a joke. Not trying to talk shit, but it's the truth. We're seen as a collection of software pirates hiding behind the false pretense of a cause. All the TRUE hackers I know, people that are 40 now, have houses and kids and jobs, etc, people that used to be in Acid and LOD, etc, think this webpage is the scene's ultimate bad joke. Just the truth...
We just sent a guy to prison for sharing some computer software didn't we? And that industry doesn't hold a candle to the revenue or power of the music industry.
And by the way, 70 gigs of mp3's aint shit. There's a guy on Kazaa with something like 600 gigs of divx movie files. Read a story about him once, apparently he's the guy behind something like 60% of all movie transfers through Kazaa.
Exactly. Ever wondered why when you get a new nic card it never works until you call your ISP(at least where I live, anyway)? The first time you get set up they log that mac addy. This can lead to some serious headaches(great example: get a cisco 806 router to work with a cable modem. There are even rumors that some ISP's will refuse to give an ip to a cisco or other router company device, because you might have multiple computers on the network, something they want you to pay extra for.)
As for DHCP, in my area I might as well NOT have it, I've had the same IP for close to 3 months now.
First of all, it's a Miata, and it's in your dad's name, so get it right. Second, she can be anyone's girlfriend provided they've managed to save up the 50 bucks. And third, she told me you don't do much "rising" of any type, which I think is pretty disrespectful of her considering how much your're paying.
And no, the itching wasn't there before, no matter how much you wanna believe it was.
Anyone remember seeing that laser keyboard a while back? A little device drew out keyboard on your desk in red light, and where you broke the beam was how it determined what key you had hit, really cool idea. Don't know if I could get to used to it thought without the clickity-clickity.
And will my HoTop get mad if I interface with other HoTops? I love my HoTop, but it has to know that many HoTops love me as well, and I need to be fair.
Yeah, it's bascially the slashdot article, but add the word "fuck" a few dozen times and a phrase "knob-slobbing corporate fucktards" for good measure.
The man's family was subsequently awared 10 million dollars. The truck, an 83 GMC half-ton with side saddle gas-tanks, exploded when it hit the man, whose family later sued GMC into bankrutpcy.
Do you relish the fact that you can't hit fast forward to skip the advertisements and copyright warnings on DVDs which you've rightfully purchased?
The producers of the DVD have reached an agreement with advertisers that really doesn't bother me. I'm not strapped to a chair with my eyes propped open forced to watch them. I can walk away while the movie loads, or better yet, watch these "advertisements" which generally are trailers placed their because I will probably like them based on what movie it is I'm watching, i.e. cool new action trailers on my new action movie I purchased.
Do you think that the RIAA has the right to impose the cumbersome, fragile CD format on everyone, by attempting to restrict more advanced, convenient means of media storage and playback [slimdevices.com]?
I really can't say I've ever been dissatisfied with the cd format that apparently you find so archaic.
Do you enjoy being forced to watch commercials on your $50/mo cable TV service?
Do you understand AT ALL how TV shows are paid for? Hell, for one thing, the shows I really want to watch, 6 Feet Under and the Sopranos, are commercial free BECAUSE I pay that 50 bucks, dumbass.
Would you prefer that your computer be artificially restricted in what it can and can't do, as opposed to being a general-purpose device whose capability is limited only by the imagination of software engineers?
Lets focus on the here and now, not the what-if's of crackpot politicians that more than likely will never come to pass. These rights you're so scared of losing deal more with your desire to pirate software and steal/violate the copy right laws of media providers and less with your fear of losing basic digital consumer rights. Please don't equate the former with an honest cause, because it isn't, no matter what face you choose to paint on it.
Would you like the federal govermnment to pass laws which restrict you from loaning your favorite book to a friend?
No, obviously I wouldn't. However, it's readily apparent you feel "loaning a book to a friend" and "scanning the entire book, converting it to.pdf, and throwing it on your Kazaa share" are the same thing, and each deserve the same free right.
If you answered "no" to any of the above questions, then you are a troll and a fucking hypocrite.
In a civilized(read: non-slashdot forum) you would be laughed at and dismissed. Basic, unalienable digital consumer rights have NOTHING to do with massive, unchecked dispersement of any media format you can think of. Downloading any music piece, software package, or electronic book you might desire is NOT, nor should be a right any digital consumer has. There are rules set up to make sure that musicians, software developers, authors, and their respective representatives are reasonably compensated for their talent, dedication and hard work. If I'm interested in a music cd, for example, I'll download the album, give it a listen, and usually end up buying it. Software as well. I spent all of last Sunday downloading the UT. I played it for about 2 hours, got my checkbook, and went to Bestbuy.
Wrapping up with my total point, which you should've picked up by now, is that their is a world of difference between unchecked mass accumilation of any media format you may desire on a whim, and basic digital consumer rights. Please don't equate the right of backing up legitamitely purchased software/music with the acts of illegal downloads and dispersement of your ill-gotten gains.
While I hardly feel that a cause based on your notion that the ability to download music at will is a god-given right, I'll play your game. Your grass roots effort has nothing to do with the business practices of the RIAA or any major label. It has to do with the fact that you've been able to pull just about any form of media from the net for so long you've begun to think you're entitled. My point was that the inability to afford something isn't justification for stealing it, no matter how much you feel the price is "wrong" or "evil". I hate to play devil's advocate, believe me I have no love for the RIAA, but I get so fucking sick of people that try to justify their actions with hallow, bullshit political standpoints.
Someone on/. once posted this little snippet under a post he titled "1st Official Slashdot to English Translator-matic"
"We should file an antitrust lawsuit against Sony"
Translation:
"I've spent far too much time absorbing bullshit ideals from anarchists. The truth of the matter is, I just don't want to pay for anything whatsoever. Britney CDs should be free because I think that somehow the constitution protects my illegal copying and distribution under some freedom of speech law or fair use act. Even though I don't have to go out and buy luxury items, I'm gonna whinge and bitch anyway"
While I feel that this issue is something worth fighting, I for one do not think I, nor any of you are the ideal solider for the task. I'm honestly not trying to start shit, but I for one feel that for the majority of the/. crew, this is about protecting your rights to download music you don't own(software for that matter). Granted this all goes back to supposed "old business models" and "copyright laws", etc., etc., ad nauseum but for this crowd, the majority of you, including me, this is about the fact that we're scared we might lose our ability to circumvent spending our own actual money while trying to keep our 0-day hacker/cyber activist motif's up because we've had our minds polluted by other so called "cyber activists" who actually succeeded in turning basic theft and copyright violations into a political standpoint. I for one, download music I don't own. I have not, however, ever tried to justify it to myself through a smokey, poorly constructed soapbox political message. I know it's wrong, but call a spade a spade. No one ever robbed a bank because they were fed up with corporate banking practices.
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The point is an Uzi really doesn't serve any purpose but to smoke people.
Kazaa is 99% copyrighted material trading, don't kid yourself. It's for people that want to download mp3's and for people that want to download warez but our too stupid to understand newsgroups. So in this case removing the tool is a valid and sensible option. And in America, we do go after people that make the tools readily available. You don't think a "FREE UZI'S" store in Caprini Green would be ok do you? I mean, they're not killing people, just giving the tools away, right?
That's a different story altogether. It's easier to do with a massive operation like that, but when we single someone out from that country for punishment, it's a lot more present. Us paying a country to send in some troops is much easier to hide and ignore than us flying a single person into our country in chains.
It seems every year, I hear something about someone discovering "the planet after Pluto". How many times has the 10th planet been discovered now? Is this planet the same thing? Something new. I'm too friggin confused at this point.
Most of the countries in the world will accept our food and our military power, but none will be bought to change their laws. We can feed and protect a country till the end of time, but once we're paying them to punish their people to our wishes, we own them, and not a country on earth would allow that.
That is a sensitive problem. On one hand, as an American I really want to shake the "world's bully" image we seem to fitting into, yet on the other hand I dont' see the problem with terminating access to outside Kazaa servers, then cracking down on the local ones. You may not be able to punish the guy running the foreign server, but you can limit access to it from within our borders, thereby removing it as an offender. That way, the government has accomplised it's goal(music/software no longer traded through that route) without having to flex nuts at the foreign government in question.
You act like the RIAA is an artifical intelligence sitting in a server somewhere. The RIAA are fighting for their cause and their way of life. These things aren't stored on a computer. We're trying to make ourselves look intelligent and moral, not just re-inforce what they already think of us. This war will be won by us in a legal, grassroots way. People like you are the reason the majority of us aren't taken seriously. I for one would not desire to have someone like you on my side in this issue. You're negative and counter-productive.
/. crew could, you couldn't be more wrong. Not to talk shit, but people with the skill to go where they want and do what they wish on the net..this /. is a joke. Not trying to talk shit, but it's the truth. We're seen as a collection of software pirates hiding behind the false pretense of a cause. All the TRUE hackers I know, people that are 40 now, have houses and kids and jobs, etc, people that used to be in Acid and LOD, etc, think this webpage is the scene's ultimate bad joke. Just the truth...
As for your comment on how if anyone could do it, the
We just sent a guy to prison for sharing some computer software didn't we? And that industry doesn't hold a candle to the revenue or power of the music industry.
And by the way, 70 gigs of mp3's aint shit. There's a guy on Kazaa with something like 600 gigs of divx movie files. Read a story about him once, apparently he's the guy behind something like 60% of all movie transfers through Kazaa.
Exactly. Ever wondered why when you get a new nic card it never works until you call your ISP(at least where I live, anyway)? The first time you get set up they log that mac addy. This can lead to some serious headaches(great example: get a cisco 806 router to work with a cable modem. There are even rumors that some ISP's will refuse to give an ip to a cisco or other router company device, because you might have multiple computers on the network, something they want you to pay extra for.)
As for DHCP, in my area I might as well NOT have it, I've had the same IP for close to 3 months now.
Which one of these buttons calls your mom to come pick you up?
First of all, it's a Miata, and it's in your dad's name, so get it right. Second, she can be anyone's girlfriend provided they've managed to save up the 50 bucks. And third, she told me you don't do much "rising" of any type, which I think is pretty disrespectful of her considering how much your're paying.
And no, the itching wasn't there before, no matter how much you wanna believe it was.
Actually 6 nights out of the week it is used for hardcore porn.
But in all seriousness..time to find out if that bitch has an active internet connection...
because it represents the global reach of MySQL as well as the friendly, open nature of the company.
Shit, that's what I thought when I first glanced at that name.
Yeah, I'm sure you got the mad fat crazy windows hacking skills, geocities page boy.
I'm sure they'll have to close a plant because of your radical decision.
Anyone remember seeing that laser keyboard a while back? A little device drew out keyboard on your desk in red light, and where you broke the beam was how it determined what key you had hit, really cool idea. Don't know if I could get to used to it thought without the clickity-clickity.
Anonymous coward? Half these friggin posts are yours, you hypocrite.
And will my HoTop get mad if I interface with other HoTops? I love my HoTop, but it has to know that many HoTops love me as well, and I need to be fair.
Yeah, it's bascially the slashdot article, but add the word "fuck" a few dozen times and a phrase "knob-slobbing corporate fucktards" for good measure.
The man's family was subsequently awared 10 million dollars. The truck, an 83 GMC half-ton with side saddle gas-tanks, exploded when it hit the man, whose family later sued GMC into bankrutpcy.
Do you relish the fact that you can't hit fast forward to skip the advertisements and copyright warnings on DVDs which you've rightfully purchased?
.pdf, and throwing it on your Kazaa share" are the same thing, and each deserve the same free right.
The producers of the DVD have reached an agreement with advertisers that really doesn't bother me. I'm not strapped to a chair with my eyes propped open forced to watch them. I can walk away while the movie loads, or better yet, watch these "advertisements" which generally are trailers placed their because I will probably like them based on what movie it is I'm watching, i.e. cool new action trailers on my new action movie I purchased.
Do you think that the RIAA has the right to impose the cumbersome, fragile CD format on everyone, by attempting to restrict more advanced, convenient means of media storage and playback [slimdevices.com]?
I really can't say I've ever been dissatisfied with the cd format that apparently you find so archaic.
Do you enjoy being forced to watch commercials on your $50/mo cable TV service?
Do you understand AT ALL how TV shows are paid for? Hell, for one thing, the shows I really want to watch, 6 Feet Under and the Sopranos, are commercial free BECAUSE I pay that 50 bucks, dumbass.
Would you prefer that your computer be artificially restricted in what it can and can't do, as opposed to being a general-purpose device whose capability is limited only by the imagination of software engineers?
Lets focus on the here and now, not the what-if's of crackpot politicians that more than likely will never come to pass. These rights you're so scared of losing deal more with your desire to pirate software and steal/violate the copy right laws of media providers and less with your fear of losing basic digital consumer rights. Please don't equate the former with an honest cause, because it isn't, no matter what face you choose to paint on it.
Would you like the federal govermnment to pass laws which restrict you from loaning your favorite book to a friend?
No, obviously I wouldn't. However, it's readily apparent you feel "loaning a book to a friend" and "scanning the entire book, converting it to
If you answered "no" to any of the above questions, then you are a troll and a fucking hypocrite.
In a civilized(read: non-slashdot forum) you would be laughed at and dismissed. Basic, unalienable digital consumer rights have NOTHING to do with massive, unchecked dispersement of any media format you can think of. Downloading any music piece, software package, or electronic book you might desire is NOT, nor should be a right any digital consumer has. There are rules set up to make sure that musicians, software developers, authors, and their respective representatives are reasonably compensated for their talent, dedication and hard work. If I'm interested in a music cd, for example, I'll download the album, give it a listen, and usually end up buying it. Software as well. I spent all of last Sunday downloading the UT. I played it for about 2 hours, got my checkbook, and went to Bestbuy. Wrapping up with my total point, which you should've picked up by now, is that their is a world of difference between unchecked mass accumilation of any media format you may desire on a whim, and basic digital consumer rights. Please don't equate the right of backing up legitamitely purchased software/music with the acts of illegal downloads and dispersement of your ill-gotten gains.
While I hardly feel that a cause based on your notion that the ability to download music at will is a god-given right, I'll play your game. Your grass roots effort has nothing to do with the business practices of the RIAA or any major label. It has to do with the fact that you've been able to pull just about any form of media from the net for so long you've begun to think you're entitled. My point was that the inability to afford something isn't justification for stealing it, no matter how much you feel the price is "wrong" or "evil". I hate to play devil's advocate, believe me I have no love for the RIAA, but I get so fucking sick of people that try to justify their actions with hallow, bullshit political standpoints.
Someone on /. once posted this little snippet under a post he titled "1st Official Slashdot to English Translator-matic"
/. crew, this is about protecting your rights to download music you don't own(software for that matter). Granted this all goes back to supposed "old business models" and "copyright laws", etc., etc., ad nauseum but for this crowd, the majority of you, including me, this is about the fact that we're scared we might lose our ability to circumvent spending our own actual money while trying to keep our 0-day hacker/cyber activist motif's up because we've had our minds polluted by other so called "cyber activists" who actually succeeded in turning basic theft and copyright violations into a political standpoint. I for one, download music I don't own. I have not, however, ever tried to justify it to myself through a smokey, poorly constructed soapbox political message. I know it's wrong, but call a spade a spade. No one ever robbed a bank because they were fed up with corporate banking practices.
"We should file an antitrust lawsuit against Sony"
Translation:
"I've spent far too much time absorbing bullshit ideals from anarchists. The truth of the matter is, I just don't want to pay for anything whatsoever. Britney CDs should be free because I think that somehow the constitution protects my illegal copying and distribution under some freedom of speech law or fair use act. Even though I don't have to go out and buy luxury items, I'm gonna whinge and bitch anyway"
While I feel that this issue is something worth fighting, I for one do not think I, nor any of you are the ideal solider for the task. I'm honestly not trying to start shit, but I for one feel that for the majority of the
I can't afford a Bentley, either, never felt I had the right to take one off the lot.
James Woods: Wow, you're Apu, you are like THE guy around here. Is it true you once worked for 86 hours straight?
Apu: Yes, towards the end I began believing I was a humming bird of some kind.
James Woods: Oh yeah, I saw the tapes.(Cuts to tape of Apu vibrating his hands like a hummingbird on Ritalin).