>First, I am a little discusted that what started >out as a plea for support against a fairly >ill-informed and poorly motivated piece of >legislation, to do with Internet censorship, >turned into a round of US-based Aussie-bashing.
I (Canadian) only started really getting into this argument after hearing a few Americans trying to convince everyone that their way is the right way and all their guns and supposed freedom of speech.
The more colorful comments about how the lack of guns was allowing the goverment to push them around really got to me. Totally differing value systems reign around here. If you read about posts from Austrailians feeling repressed because of their lack of guns, you might have a point.
Conversely, I hardly thing the US government goes about thinking "Ya know, if we pass this, there's likely to be an armed uprising and we'll all be killed by the informed and armed people." A more realistic scenario would be "Ya know, if we pass this the media will milk it all over the uninformed electorate and we'll be voted out of power next election."
I may be slightly off topic but I don't feel this has been an 'American Bash' session as much as a clash of differing values. Maybe we're even learning (:
Oh please help me, I can't rise up against a rogue government who seems bent on removing my rights as a person. Whatever shall I do without my Trusty Person Killer (tm) at my side? Probably something far more intelligent.
Someone far far up said that words are as powerful as guns. Well this is out of his context, but it applies both ways. I can use words, not guns, and maybe even make a differnece.
And I tell you, I really wish I was an American. I could walk down the street with my Trusty Person Killer (tm), safe in the knowledge that that awfully corrupt government won't be robbing me of my freedoms soon because if they do, I'll shoot them all.
Of course, in reality, that's not the case. Television == Censored. No doubt about it. Tell me how much nudity and sex you can view on NBC or CBS or Fox or whatever after midnight? About the same as before. I'm a Canadian. I can get Showcase. Only then, we call it art (which it is, foreign film, not a porno). It's still after midnight of course. Can you say though, that you get it on cable?
You can't ever tell me you're totally free. Because that's just delusional and forms itself in statements like yours. I have no pity for YOUR delusion and I sincrely hope that you won't ever have to be put in a situation to use your Trusty Person Killer (tm) because you'll likely die. I don't need your pity, I have my freedoms and I find it sad that you falsely believe you have yours.
A century of domestic peace. With violations left, right and center. What do you call conscription, especially for wars without purpose (Vietnam?) I'd hardly call the 60's a time of domestic peace. Black people moving for their rights. More social cataclysm existed then because the tensions were tighter. You have to admit, the 90's are fairly lax.
I wish I could read off more examples and I know they are there. Being a Canadian, US history isn't my strong suit. However, your credability is just as easily lost as you cannot hope to gloss over simple and fundamental violations of basic human rights.
Let me have fun with your statement. Where you state that everyone should have a gun as the likelyhood of them being used is less, substitute people with nations and guns with nuclear weapons.
I know this is a fairly huge differnece but think of it as this: Guns have the potential to kill. As do nukes. Last I checked, mutually assured destruction was only something I'd want to leave in the hands of someone with something to lose. Because perpetuating guns to everyone everywhere, you'd soon reach someone with NOTHING to lose. And they could go ballistic, knowing perfectly well that they would die.
The nuclear detterent was one of the most costly endeavours that mankind ever embarked on. Don't be so quick to pass the detterent of violence onto the common man.
The right to self defense != the right to kill others. Would you say that the two teens in Colorado were acting in 'self defense'? Case in point.
That Drug Law fact is unsubstantiated. Show me statistics, please.
And I'm well aware that lobbies may well be running my government. At least they aren't running them into the ground though.
As for senseless mass violence being on the rise, unless I'm the ignorant victim of a lot of censorship, I've missed a lot. Frankly though, I won't say that violence may not be on the rise. But mix violence with firearm availability and the odds of those firearms being mixed into the violence increases. And I agree to it being a social problem. That being the social mindset that owning a device that is meant soley for death and killing is an acceptable thing.
Just as a reference points, the binary X servers you're referring to (the i740 and that other one I can't remember) were very recently released as source. Redhat had plans to the whole time (more then them though, Precision Insight was a big part of those servers). That source it out there. As well as the 3D GL extensions that Redhat/PI are playing with.. It's all in the Xfree86 devel areas if you wanna look (:
I really feel a need to respond to this comment. Can you tell me truly that you know how to optomize an NT install as well as they did? It's all fair and good to say 'Well Linux is hard to tune' but replace Linux with NT and the last statement holds true. They were registry hacking performance up. They weren't just tuning, they were fairly good NT guru's. I just hope that after all this noone starts to think 'Hey, all the Linux geeks are complaining about the tweaks, does that mean that since NT was tweaked and Linux was'nt that NT is easier to use?'
I love this. Ratings are totally artificial and more often then not ignored. My little brother has free reign in the local video store, is just about their best customer, they let him rent whatever the hell pleases him. And I wasn't 18 when I bought Doom II. Heck, same with Half Life and that's probably one of the more 'realistic' killing games out there. And any INTELLIGENT person on a computer can delete Internet History, get past NetNanny, etc. Then again, a person with that much intelligence would know the difference between fantasy and reality.
Needless to say, don't think ratings mean dick all. The bottom line is the parents getting involved.
Isn't it a proven fact that without mental development, human's don't survive? Remember hearing about all those studies where babies were given almost no human contact and became almost insociable and developed at nearly no rate? People depend on people to survive, so the Matrix keeps people mentally healthy so the bodies don't die (:
This is a point Apple has ALWAYS skirted around. They put out boxes which, while admittedly faster, will cost you 2 arms, a leg and some genitalia to buy. Then there's the cost of OS X server.
So of course, you'll see these benchmarks compared on 'equally priced hardware'. Well of course this has to be the case, it takes most of that 5k just to reach the minimal OS X Server's requirements. Why not compare the numbers on a $1,000 machine? I can find any number of current generation x86 boxes that only cost that much. Or last generation Alpha's or Sparc's or anything. But will I find an G3 capable of running OS X Server for that cost? Fraid not.
And even these 1k boxes can hold their own. Hell we've all heard the stories of 486's running DNS servers. Linux will install on a 386 for pete's sake. You'll find boxes that have uptimes long enough to just about advertise the local power company's reliability moreso then the Linux box itself. I love Linux because the price is right. And that's ALL the price, from the hardware you need on up.
Tarnar
P.S. If I could afford a G3 450 or whatever the heck they used, I'd be a farily content guy. OS X would definitely have a place on the harddrive. Next to Linux.
It was a WW2 movie. Straight and simple. Every aspect of it was, from the way the ships looked and felt to the basic plot itself (Diversion, interception, stolen intelligence). And for that, I enjoyed it.
The classic age of war, and it was very well recaptured. As someone sad earlier in these comments, it was a B movie. The actors, the plot, everything. It was a fun B movie too, cliched and WW2-all-over-again. It's that second genre of Sci-Fi, not like the Star Treks, one where technology and the future in space is all spit-and-polish.
I'd have to say that if you're after another look at sci-fi from another perspective or if you have an interest in the way war was 55 years ago, this is a movie to see.
(And incidently, the trailer was worth the admission anyway)
AC's are a hot topic. While there certainly are enough potty mouths and undereducated fools out there, there's still got to be some right to express oneself, especially without fear of retribution (AC's). Of course, I almost find myself not agreeing with my own words.
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Both (:
To start, it's Dragula. Then, when Neo and HotAss, er, Trinity are talking, it's Prodigy.
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That's almost as good as the argument "Want that program for Linux? Code it!"
Grow up, you can't expect everyone to be able to do something like that. It's absurd. People, not politicians.
>First, I am a little discusted that what started
>out as a plea for support against a fairly
>ill-informed and poorly motivated piece of >legislation, to do with Internet censorship,
>turned into a round of US-based Aussie-bashing.
I (Canadian) only started really getting into this argument after hearing a few Americans trying to convince everyone that their way is the right way and all their guns and supposed freedom of speech.
The more colorful comments about how the lack of guns was allowing the goverment to push them around really got to me. Totally differing value systems reign around here. If you read about posts from Austrailians feeling repressed because of their lack of guns, you might have a point.
Conversely, I hardly thing the US government goes about thinking "Ya know, if we pass this, there's likely to be an armed uprising and we'll all be killed by the informed and armed people." A more realistic scenario would be "Ya know, if we pass this the media will milk it all over the uninformed electorate and we'll be voted out of power next election."
I may be slightly off topic but I don't feel this has been an 'American Bash' session as much as a clash of differing values. Maybe we're even learning (:
Oh please help me, I can't rise up against a rogue government who seems bent on removing my rights as a person. Whatever shall I do without my Trusty Person Killer (tm) at my side? Probably something far more intelligent.
Someone far far up said that words are as powerful as guns. Well this is out of his context, but it applies both ways. I can use words, not guns, and maybe even make a differnece.
And I tell you, I really wish I was an American. I could walk down the street with my Trusty Person Killer (tm), safe in the knowledge that that awfully corrupt government won't be robbing me of my freedoms soon because if they do, I'll shoot them all.
Of course, in reality, that's not the case. Television == Censored. No doubt about it. Tell me how much nudity and sex you can view on NBC or CBS or Fox or whatever after midnight? About the same as before. I'm a Canadian. I can get Showcase. Only then, we call it art (which it is, foreign film, not a porno). It's still after midnight of course. Can you say though, that you get it on cable?
You can't ever tell me you're totally free. Because that's just delusional and forms itself in statements like yours. I have no pity for YOUR delusion and I sincrely hope that you won't ever have to be put in a situation to use your Trusty Person Killer (tm) because you'll likely die. I don't need your pity, I have my freedoms and I find it sad that you falsely believe you have yours.
A century of domestic peace. With violations left, right and center. What do you call conscription, especially for wars without purpose (Vietnam?) I'd hardly call the 60's a time of domestic peace. Black people moving for their rights. More social cataclysm existed then because the tensions were tighter. You have to admit, the 90's are fairly lax.
I wish I could read off more examples and I know they are there. Being a Canadian, US history isn't my strong suit. However, your credability is just as easily lost as you cannot hope to gloss over simple and fundamental violations of basic human rights.
Let me have fun with your statement. Where you state that everyone should have a gun as the likelyhood of them being used is less, substitute people with nations and guns with nuclear weapons.
I know this is a fairly huge differnece but think of it as this: Guns have the potential to kill. As do nukes. Last I checked, mutually assured destruction was only something I'd want to leave in the hands of someone with something to lose. Because perpetuating guns to everyone everywhere, you'd soon reach someone with NOTHING to lose. And they could go ballistic, knowing perfectly well that they would die.
The nuclear detterent was one of the most costly endeavours that mankind ever embarked on. Don't be so quick to pass the detterent of violence onto the common man.
The right to self defense != the right to kill others. Would you say that the two teens in Colorado were acting in 'self defense'? Case in point.
That Drug Law fact is unsubstantiated. Show me statistics, please.
And I'm well aware that lobbies may well be running my government. At least they aren't running them into the ground though.
As for senseless mass violence being on the rise, unless I'm the ignorant victim of a lot of censorship, I've missed a lot. Frankly though, I won't say that violence may not be on the rise. But mix violence with firearm availability and the odds of those firearms being mixed into the violence increases. And I agree to it being a social problem. That being the social mindset that owning a device that is meant soley for death and killing is an acceptable thing.
T
Just as a reference points, the binary X servers you're referring to (the i740 and that other one I can't remember) were very recently released as source. Redhat had plans to the whole time (more then them though, Precision Insight was a big part of those servers). That source it out there. As well as the 3D GL extensions that Redhat/PI are playing with.. It's all in the Xfree86 devel areas if you wanna look (:
T
I really feel a need to respond to this comment. Can you tell me truly that you know how to optomize an NT install as well as they did? It's all fair and good to say 'Well Linux is hard to tune' but replace Linux with NT and the last statement holds true. They were registry hacking performance up. They weren't just tuning, they were fairly good NT guru's. I just hope that after all this noone starts to think 'Hey, all the Linux geeks are complaining about the tweaks, does that mean that since NT was tweaked and Linux was'nt that NT is easier to use?'
I love this. Ratings are totally artificial and more often then not ignored. My little brother has free reign in the local video store, is just about their best customer, they let him rent whatever the hell pleases him. And I wasn't 18 when I bought Doom II. Heck, same with Half Life and that's probably one of the more 'realistic' killing games out there. And any INTELLIGENT person on a computer can delete Internet History, get past NetNanny, etc. Then again, a person with that much intelligence would know the difference between fantasy and reality.
Needless to say, don't think ratings mean dick all. The bottom line is the parents getting involved.
Isn't it a proven fact that without mental development, human's don't survive? Remember hearing about all those studies where babies were given almost no human contact and became almost insociable and developed at nearly no rate? People depend on people to survive, so the Matrix keeps people mentally healthy so the bodies don't die (:
This is a point Apple has ALWAYS skirted around. They put out boxes which, while admittedly faster, will cost you 2 arms, a leg and some genitalia to buy. Then there's the cost of OS X server.
So of course, you'll see these benchmarks compared on 'equally priced hardware'. Well of course this has to be the case, it takes most of that 5k just to reach the minimal OS X Server's requirements. Why not compare the numbers on a $1,000 machine? I can find any number of current generation x86 boxes that only cost that much. Or last generation Alpha's or Sparc's or anything. But will I find an G3 capable of running OS X Server for that cost? Fraid not.
And even these 1k boxes can hold their own. Hell we've all heard the stories of 486's running DNS servers. Linux will install on a 386 for pete's sake. You'll find boxes that have uptimes long enough to just about advertise the local power company's reliability moreso then the Linux box itself. I love Linux because the price is right. And that's ALL the price, from the hardware you need on up.
Tarnar
P.S. If I could afford a G3 450 or whatever the heck they used, I'd be a farily content guy. OS X would definitely have a place on the harddrive. Next to Linux.
It was a WW2 movie. Straight and simple. Every aspect of it was, from the way the ships looked and felt to the basic plot itself (Diversion, interception, stolen intelligence). And for that, I enjoyed it.
The classic age of war, and it was very well recaptured. As someone sad earlier in these comments, it was a B movie. The actors, the plot, everything. It was a fun B movie too, cliched and WW2-all-over-again. It's that second genre of Sci-Fi, not like the Star Treks, one where technology and the future in space is all spit-and-polish.
I'd have to say that if you're after another look at sci-fi from another perspective or if you have an interest in the way war was 55 years ago, this is a movie to see.
(And incidently, the trailer was worth the admission anyway)
Well done. 9 / 10 flamebait score. Just make it from an AC and you have a victor.
AC's are a hot topic. While there certainly are enough potty mouths and undereducated fools out there, there's still got to be some right to express oneself, especially without fear of retribution (AC's). Of course, I almost find myself not agreeing with my own words.