1) You appeared amatuerish. Cheap often *does* mean its a little bloke sitting alone in a room hacking out stuff. There no guarantee you might just get bored and fuck off.
2) Did they offer more? Putting in extra features, and charging for them, is commonplace.
3) Are you sure you actually lost on price? Was their bid of a higher quality, and you were fobbed off with the price as an excuse?
4) Did they offer support? Updates? Full IP/Copyright? Training? Sort of comes in with number 2..
Cheaper does not always mean 'the same thing at a lower price'. Theres a reason for the 'cheap and cheerful', and 'you get what you pay for' adages after all.
Just coz I happen to be a skilled manual working eskimo with gender and race issues living in the Big Apple doesn't mean you have to take the piss. Oh, and happy octogenerian birthday to me.
Because as soon as they start flogging the Doom 3 engine the revenue from the Q3 engine will basically cease. So they wait a little while, until the press has died off, and give it away GPL'ed.. wahey.. we're in the press again.
Very true. But I repeat myself when I ask.. SO WHAT? Nothing you mention is criminal, nothing is of any interest to the government, nothing is worthy of spending resources on.
You've done nothing illegal. Nothing 'deviant'. Nothing thats going to get you on the cover of a popular tabloid. Nothing your neighbours might go 'tsk' and whisper about. You don't drop litter, swear, or look at porn on the internet. You're not 'guilty' of smoking, drinking, or sex before marriage. You don't speed, you've never inhaled, and your only knowledge of a 'hooker' is from watching Rugby (obscure English sport) on the telly.
So, what the fuck do you care if the feds see that you borrowed a copy of 'Popular DIY' last weekend?
Or is your desire for 'privacy' just a misplaced sense of rebellion against the state because you're a bit anal and have no other way to vent your displeasure about 'the system'?
DISCLAIMER: I'm English. The idea^h^h^h^hinevitability of having to live with identity cards and the state tracking is very real here. And yet, it seems very few people have a problem with it. We can see the benefits. A reduction in crime, the possibility of being able to pay tax online and such securely, and whatever else we think up, is GOOD. OK, so Tony Blair might be able to tell what I was doing this weekend. SO WHAT?
Then Linux falls to its knees. And you have to drop to a command line, start editting files, and trawling through god awful man pages and 'tutorials' on web sites. In Windows, if something goes wrong, you have more pretty buttons. And you have a huge company to support you. You might have this for your Linux distro, but only if you've paid, and then Linux fails on the 'Wahey, its free' count.
Linux installs and upgrades are definately a whole lot better than they were when I started out with RH5.2, but they are still a very, very long way behind the latest MSFT offerings.
I rather wish anyone who 'advocates Linux' never makes much of an impact in a corporate boardroom. Likewise, any MSFT 'advocate' who does the same should be equally ignored.
Whatever your view of each operating system, the end marker is that they are tools. And when you're selecting the right one you need to be independent, you need to consider all the alternatives, and most of all you need to be unbiased.
Its one thing to like Linux, its quite another to expect everyone else to. If Linux is the best OS for the job, go with it. If its not, don't. Choosing Linux just because you're been told its the best by some RMS wannabe might well be a very bad business decision.
Yes Napster et al make great sampling points. Try before you buy blah blah blah.
However, if you happen to be a formulaic nobody churns out the same old dirges album after album (mentioning no names Lars.. oops), then people are going to be sick of paying 15quid (I'm English, dollars to you I guess) for an album with perhaps 2 or 3 reasonable tracks. And what do they do? They download/copy/rip the stuff they like, and don't pay for the filler. And as far as record companies are concerned, filler pays.
You see, people who download aren't really hurting the artists who have been around for a while, and have a hefty back catalogue that will actually be aided by new listeners. No. The people that are 'harmed' are the so-called 'musicians' who are happy to stamp out track after track, album after album of the usual cookie-cutter chart crap. These are the tunes that appeal most to the very people who can't afford to buy a 15quid/dollar CD, Children. They're the very same people who haven't the intellectual ability to crack some encryption or whatever. So whats left? Downloading.
Sure, Janis Ian is right. People downloading a 27 year old hit isn't going to hurt sales of an ancient Ian album. But thats not the same as saying its not going to hurt anyone.
I'm as bad for this as the next pirate. I would never have gone out and paid for the latest Puddle Of Mudd album, theres only 1 good song on it, but I have it. I've not bought the Blade 2 OST, but I'm listening to it. Just a couple of examples as to where the recording industry has been hurt.
If artists want me to pay my hard earned cash for their music, then they ought to make albums I'd be happy to pay for.
Only if you're ordering systems running Microsoft Windows, though
Thank you very much Slashdot for pointing out the completely and utterly obvious, while still attempting to get a little dig at MS. It must be a day ending in a Y.
Our cable modem is in my room and piped to the family PC across the house by carefully laid RJ-45. And 802.11 wireless streamed upstairs
And just how many people in the world know what RJ45 is, let alone how to wire up a network in their home? I include you in this statement, because I assume you've actually laid CAT5 with RJ45 connections, and not stuck thousands of RJ45 connectors together to make your network. Although.. perhaps you have..
This is completely unfair for independant artists who release their tracks exclusively in MP3- their fans are effectively paying the recording industry to buy independant music
If the indie labels are releasing tracks on MP3 _players_ then they have a slightly bigger problem than a bit of taxation.
Then you had better stay away from table lamps - they're far more effective at spewing radiation than your cellphone
The last time I held a table lamp to my head Iwas told to see a doctor.. as for the time I held one to my balls.. well..
I will accept copy protection.
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I'm entirely willing to accept copy protection, DRM, whatever, with one single condition.
All media has a lifetime guarantee against anything I do to it.
Basically, I want to back things up for my personal use. But, if the media companies wish to stop me doing that myself then I feel that they ought to provide me, for free (or the cost of production), with as many replacements of the original media as I want. If they are unwilling to accpet this financial undertaking (it'd be big, I'm a clumsy/forgetful/stupid person) then they ought not be able to stop me protecting my initial investment.
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Possible reasons:
1) You appeared amatuerish. Cheap often *does* mean its a little bloke sitting alone in a room hacking out stuff. There no guarantee you might just get bored and fuck off.
2) Did they offer more? Putting in extra features, and charging for them, is commonplace.
3) Are you sure you actually lost on price? Was their bid of a higher quality, and you were fobbed off with the price as an excuse?
4) Did they offer support? Updates? Full IP/Copyright? Training? Sort of comes in with number 2..
Cheaper does not always mean 'the same thing at a lower price'. Theres a reason for the 'cheap and cheerful', and 'you get what you pay for' adages after all.
Just coz I happen to be a skilled manual working eskimo with gender and race issues living in the Big Apple doesn't mean you have to take the piss. Oh, and happy octogenerian birthday to me.
I take it you mean grammar :)
Because as soon as they start flogging the Doom 3 engine the revenue from the Q3 engine will basically cease. So they wait a little while, until the press has died off, and give it away GPL'ed.. wahey.. we're in the press again.
Thats how business works.
Woah. I hope they hire you as a consultant. I'm sure none of these things will have occured to them at all.
Actually.. knowing NASA..
Very true. But I repeat myself when I ask.. SO WHAT? Nothing you mention is criminal, nothing is of any interest to the government, nothing is worthy of spending resources on.
Stop being so paranoid for pities sake.
You boot with the rescue disk you made while installing, exactly as is suggested while installing 95,98,NT,2k,XP, and Linux.
You did make a rescue disk, didn't you?
No?
Well you're a twat then.
Right.
You've done nothing illegal. Nothing 'deviant'. Nothing thats going to get you on the cover of a popular tabloid. Nothing your neighbours might go 'tsk' and whisper about. You don't drop litter, swear, or look at porn on the internet. You're not 'guilty' of smoking, drinking, or sex before marriage. You don't speed, you've never inhaled, and your only knowledge of a 'hooker' is from watching Rugby (obscure English sport) on the telly.
So, what the fuck do you care if the feds see that you borrowed a copy of 'Popular DIY' last weekend?
Or is your desire for 'privacy' just a misplaced sense of rebellion against the state because you're a bit anal and have no other way to vent your displeasure about 'the system'?
DISCLAIMER: I'm English. The idea^h^h^h^hinevitability of having to live with identity cards and the state tracking is very real here. And yet, it seems very few people have a problem with it. We can see the benefits. A reduction in crime, the possibility of being able to pay tax online and such securely, and whatever else we think up, is GOOD. OK, so Tony Blair might be able to tell what I was doing this weekend. SO WHAT?
PC == Personal Computer.
Don't get confused about Windows, Intel, and IBM Compatibles.
You're right. It is all pretty buttons.
Until something goes awry.
Then Linux falls to its knees. And you have to drop to a command line, start editting files, and trawling through god awful man pages and 'tutorials' on web sites. In Windows, if something goes wrong, you have more pretty buttons. And you have a huge company to support you. You might have this for your Linux distro, but only if you've paid, and then Linux fails on the 'Wahey, its free' count.
Linux installs and upgrades are definately a whole lot better than they were when I started out with RH5.2, but they are still a very, very long way behind the latest MSFT offerings.
Our main weapon is SSH. And SSH Tunneling. Our two main weapons are SSH and SSH Tunneling. And a fanatical devotion to TCP. Out THREE main weapons...
Etc.
I rather wish anyone who 'advocates Linux' never makes much of an impact in a corporate boardroom. Likewise, any MSFT 'advocate' who does the same should be equally ignored.
Whatever your view of each operating system, the end marker is that they are tools. And when you're selecting the right one you need to be independent, you need to consider all the alternatives, and most of all you need to be unbiased.
Its one thing to like Linux, its quite another to expect everyone else to. If Linux is the best OS for the job, go with it. If its not, don't. Choosing Linux just because you're been told its the best by some RMS wannabe might well be a very bad business decision.
Yes Napster et al make great sampling points. Try before you buy blah blah blah.
However, if you happen to be a formulaic nobody churns out the same old dirges album after album (mentioning no names Lars.. oops), then people are going to be sick of paying 15quid (I'm English, dollars to you I guess) for an album with perhaps 2 or 3 reasonable tracks. And what do they do? They download/copy/rip the stuff they like, and don't pay for the filler. And as far as record companies are concerned, filler pays.
You see, people who download aren't really hurting the artists who have been around for a while, and have a hefty back catalogue that will actually be aided by new listeners. No. The people that are 'harmed' are the so-called 'musicians' who are happy to stamp out track after track, album after album of the usual cookie-cutter chart crap. These are the tunes that appeal most to the very people who can't afford to buy a 15quid/dollar CD, Children. They're the very same people who haven't the intellectual ability to crack some encryption or whatever. So whats left? Downloading.
Sure, Janis Ian is right. People downloading a 27 year old hit isn't going to hurt sales of an ancient Ian album. But thats not the same as saying its not going to hurt anyone.
I'm as bad for this as the next pirate. I would never have gone out and paid for the latest Puddle Of Mudd album, theres only 1 good song on it, but I have it. I've not bought the Blade 2 OST, but I'm listening to it. Just a couple of examples as to where the recording industry has been hurt.
If artists want me to pay my hard earned cash for their music, then they ought to make albums I'd be happy to pay for.
Only if you're ordering systems running Microsoft Windows, though
Thank you very much Slashdot for pointing out the completely and utterly obvious, while still attempting to get a little dig at MS. It must be a day ending in a Y.
It was called The Milgram Experiment. By a chap called Milgram oddly enough.
Our cable modem is in my room and piped to the family PC across the house by carefully laid RJ-45. And 802.11 wireless streamed upstairs
And just how many people in the world know what RJ45 is, let alone how to wire up a network in their home? I include you in this statement, because I assume you've actually laid CAT5 with RJ45 connections, and not stuck thousands of RJ45 connectors together to make your network. Although.. perhaps you have..
I'm just glad you're not bitter about any of this.
Quite simple really, and one both the music and movie industries appear to be implementing..
Just make all the content so dull that noone would ever bother copying any of it.
Quite why they bother protecting the latest Britney album is beyond me. Who the hell would want to duplicate that?
This is completely unfair for independant artists who release their tracks exclusively in MP3- their fans are effectively paying the recording industry to buy independant music
If the indie labels are releasing tracks on MP3 _players_ then they have a slightly bigger problem than a bit of taxation.
I work for a ship classification company.
Big ship..
Little ship..
Big ship..
Medium size ship..
Then you had better stay away from table lamps - they're far more effective at spewing radiation than your cellphone
The last time I held a table lamp to my head Iwas told to see a doctor.. as for the time I held one to my balls.. well..
I'm entirely willing to accept copy protection, DRM, whatever, with one single condition.
All media has a lifetime guarantee against anything I do to it.
Basically, I want to back things up for my personal use. But, if the media companies wish to stop me doing that myself then I feel that they ought to provide me, for free (or the cost of production), with as many replacements of the original media as I want. If they are unwilling to accpet this financial undertaking (it'd be big, I'm a clumsy/forgetful/stupid person) then they ought not be able to stop me protecting my initial investment.
Interviewer: Why do you want to work for the police force.. oh.. I see you like the uniforms..
Walk down the street, look at the world. This is reality.
You've lost me.. what is this thing? Is it new? </geek>
I'm still waiting for for my Earning $$$s At Home, the kidney machine for that Florida kid, and all the free pr0n^H^H^H^Humm..