Dune is a part of the must-read list, as far as the first book. The movie/tv stuff paled in comparison.
Before I read another "is there no shame" post, herbert is getting what he deserves: paid. This guy has a trmendous imagination and the motivation to organize it. I support the commercialization of anything, because it means it's popular. Unlike free-as-in-beer software, there is a place for "selling out" as much as possible. Fiction has a commercial lifetime, and capturing the sweet spot is part of the game.
So this is the voice of the Status Quo. That's how money is made to him. He doesn't know how the New System will make money, and he doesn't have to think about it. It's easier to fight for the Status Quo. Why? Because he is scared and it fuels his energy.
Who wouldn't sympathize with this creature? The world it has grew up inside of, loved and excelled at, is eroding away. Mentally, this person terrified of a world where information is moved without oversight; copied without permissions.
We all know there is no way to prevent the erosion. When you get to brass tacks, there are mathematical theories about how information cannot ever be entirely "secure". His battle is to do two things:
- Increase the effort to bypass licensing schemes. Make the appearance of an unlicensed copy an obvious flag of misuse and globally "illegal" activity.
- Increase the punishments for conviction of misuse and license bypass. Make them so horrifically outrageous a small percentage of ne'er-do-wells avoid trying to bypass the license.
So, we have the DMCA and all the legal details. Trial lawyers salivating at the chance to walk these through the courts, since they are headlines and precedent-makers. On the side of the status quo, they are also money makers.
But, in the end, digital information, if able to be delivered to the senses, can be recaptured in ever-increasing quality. Reprocessing of this kind skirts most license protection. For others, only a gentle spin cycle takes care of the rest.
This is the crux of his fear. Movies begin to appear on swapped discs the weekend before release, copied from stolen or illegal screenings. On a P2P network, with ever-increasing sizes and trusted agents, the information flows faster and faster. 1.5MB/sec later, I am popping my own popcorn and bypassing the Status Quo.
Oh woe is the Status Quo! The RIAA is first in the lineup for bat, but the issues are the same. Artists MUST eventually build the New Way to directly reach consumers. If they would only band together, they'd have enough strength to do it. Right now, they are too timid. Newbies in the industry still clamor to jump into the status quo. They are so mistaken. But that's all they know, like Jack. He will die an unhappy man, unable to put the genie back in the bottle.
If you build it...they will come. Games that charge online are trying out a model because there ARE people that'll pay to play.
Of course, those among us who scoff at these p(l)ayers wouldn't also mind being a profiteer from these sales.
These games are as dumb as chat seems to some people. But so is Quake 3 Arena after awhile. Every game tries to ride the wave of novelty until the payers dwindle. Keeping the costs down makes that curve a bit longer.
It's been said before and it bear repeating: If a game sucks, don't play it. Don't feed me psychological addition arguments here, we're not talking about codependent addicts. These are simply gameplayers let down by a release. BFD. Believe it or not, every industry, from shoes to automobiles, has a board discussing the good and bad new products. Unimportant to everyone except the profiteers. Be one of them and then gripe.
There are plenty of con men with better tactics who didn't write code. The juiciest pasts of the "social engineering" stories are better found elsewhere.
Sorry but you are confusing fame and morals. They live in different worlds. Talking candidly with someone regardless of their past is based on DEMAND, not morals. "Why? Because we're interested, dummy!"
So why are we interested? Well, for the large part of the readership, there's no need to garner hacking tips or concepts from this guy. His methods were devious and ingenious for the time, though. Plus, a very small percentage of people reading here are actually hacking anything of importance (out of a small % of people even trying). Last hack I did was trying to recover a password protected word file. HA
Anyway, THIS GUY IS A CELEBRITY BECAUSE he took a road less travelled and is now exposing the path he took. A unique life, how is yours?
Much more interesting than 100.00% of the TV Guide/OK/Hello/People/Time/Newsweek brainfood out there. Slashdot is where this news should be. What are you here to read?
The distros need to extend themselves to the idiot/grandma/secretary types everywhere. These people may not be looking for files with 'find', but they hold the checkbooks.
When a large company decides on a desktop, we're talking about a huge sweep in user base, everything from the techies that grumble or praise to the pointy-haired boss that is looking for the 'Any' key.
I'm not talking about slick windows to do what easy enough command-line params could do. Desktops need to be turnkey all the time. Even the concept of a WM is going to spin people. I advocate removing most concepts from end-users reaching them. Hence, why Apple wants OS X to be a bit on the "can't get there from here" appearance.
Cookie-cutter, die-cut desktops have a huge market, and the dumber they are, the more easily they're adopted by the masses. WebTV, AOL, MS XP and countless other ideas prove this again and again.
I agree, except with the fact that identity theft, SPAM and the amount of crucial information online is growing tremendously. I want crime involving the internet to be punishable. Ann Rand this is not.
Any hacker worth the time wouldn't shuffle off to an ACM-esque programming comp. Just doesn't seem to be what's cool to me. I'm much more inclined to believe the monitoring box was hacked to flop-like-a-fish all night.
As far as hacking, why not run a box per team local to the gathering all night. They all have the same holes, and the team that can exploit it best wins.
For the majority of my time though, I'd prefer to simply watch presentations about known hacks and documented exploits. Esp. given the mystery about the GOBBLE and such latests dealing with P2P.
- Doesn't my player, lib, network software, and net traffic have any changes in footprint or signature?
- What's being auto-updated when I disabled backhanded updates for Gnutella and Kazza clients?
- Why talk about this at all, except for scriptkiddie-esque bragging about vaporware? Childish.
- Can the RIAA sue over 1 million people? This seems like a great climax to the story! Their gathered records won't even be considered legal evidence! (issues with Procurement, Falsification, Privacy)
Back to your stations people. The troll bells are fading away.
So the city officials start shredding their garbage, continuing the precedent that everyone's garbage is free for picking.
Something tells me, though, that if you were to simply TAKE everyone's garbage in a city a few times, for the simple act of "diving" on a large-scale, that trash hauling service would have some serious value.
You are stealing - from a public place - a transfer between a client and a service provider. If I leave a package to be picked up by the postal carrier, this is private transaction. So should the garbage.
So we eventually get the garbage people hauling from the porch, the back yard, etc. when asked - and paid. Everyone else buys a shredder, and the remaining people get searched.
I disagree strongly. Those PC donations are better left in the garbage, guy.
News flash: MS's tactics haven't changed since 1992. There are plenty of new excuses to criticize MS. If you worked for a company it squashed illegally, you may think differently.
I read it differently. MS sees an opportunity to finally get all content digital and controlled. Movies, banking, games, education, etc, could all be managed securely if everyone played by the rules. Shaping up the OS, as the author sees, is part of it.
MS's "business side" realizes that Content Is King when all the gizmos are installed. Content providers are holding off until security is in place (draconian as it is). So we'll have crazy licensing schemes, Palladium, etc.
I think we're going to see a much bigger walk into the AOL-with-key-and-lock (fubar as it may be) items from MS. Media Player may just be evolving into the next Tivo that tries to please everyone.
So this side bunches together with the salepitchers to hold our hands and walk us into The New Way. It's gonna be scary.
The "strong" OS of XP and stable round of versions coming out now are an effort to woo the business world into getting MS in the server room, the media room, the bank, etc. Remember, besides Linux there are a lot of AS/400-esqe boxes still running that it would like to replace. MS could care less that you have dual boot on your PC. It wants those juicy corporate licenses, and now it wants to build a world for new licences where it doesn exist: Media Management.
Would you be surprised if MS announced it will be hosting and delivering first-run movies online through MSN, in a partnership with studio XYZ? If you look into MSN's portal, you'll see this is the obvious evolutionary step about to take place. That's big FU money, IMO. They're not going to rush, but I expect it soon.
Sounds like great alternatives. I hope they perfect the idea of Pay To Play games to everyone is happy.
However, this doesn't address the concept of gaming addiction. Combined with the "PayToPlay" online game issue, we'll always have these whiners.
When I bought Thief II, I knew it was a hugely addictive sequel to Thief and accepted the issue. After finishing, I went back to other segments of life happy to have spent the time. All things in moderation.
Your metaphor reveals how little you know about illness in the frist place.
SO what I actually read was a long post about this guy's psychological addiction to a video game? not.
People can become addicted to anything, I understand. In fact, I think this is a great way for Sony to make money. They are hitting the balance of support vs. suffering just right if this guy posted this huge rant, and then logged in for few more hours of paying to kill pixels.
In fact, most consumerism is based on impulsive and compulsive behavior. Your own company job may rely on it.
This is a blurry difference. Open Source is not halfway.
Why don't you pay the fee, put all the documentation in the code as a set of comments.
ANSWER: Because of the agreement?
SO, does this prevent you from patching/commenting/changing any code based on what you read in the Support Forum? Sounds like a thin line. What amount of change based on support forum information is considered legal?
It is always the solution. Gamlbing, alcohol, TV, anything. YOU GIVE IT UP.
After such a long post about a game that is buggy and the corporate-sized publisher that "cares more about profit" (surprise?) - I felt like this guy needed intervention, not sympathy.
If this were a single player RPG with bots, he'd play it, review it and be done. Upgrade, patch and expand, yay. But who cares after a while? It's a game! REMEMBER THAT PART?
Here's some background on diamond films: In July of this year, scientists in the United States reported that isotopically pure diamond films (containing 99.9% carbon-12 and not the 1% carbon-13 that is present in natural diamonds) had been grown. The pure films not only conducted hear 50% better than the best natural diamonds but also withstood damage by laser radiation ten times more effectively than natural diamond.
One could have the concept of combining functions: Glass that serves as a semiconductor, etc. Interesting.
I don't know if manufactured diamonds theaten the jewelry industry, but I doubt it. Although hundreds of almost-slaves labor in mines so deep it's scary, and the industry is full of creepy deals, people buy them, and the industry churns them out just the same.
Fan fiction is no more than collective imagination. When you envision the "just past the ending" scenes of your favorite move, you don't discuss it? Sounds like boring date, you.
Fan fiction can be as bad as anything built through a collective, but this departure from a bunch of Harvard screenwriters' 6-month chop-n-splice is a refreshing. How many movies are you skipping because it seems formulaic, formulaic with a single twist or anti-formulaic in an almost reactionary sense?
With fan fiction, its a bit of a random roll of the dice. Now, I will admit that having fans create their own story is a bit like asking for more of the same. But a movie sticks to a genre/premise at some level anyway, so either accept that or eat your popcorn and go home.
The negative on fan fiction seem a bit ironic given the pro open-source stance seen on the/. It's not much different, IMO.
Well, you may just live long enough to make that decision.
Google would be wise to wait this out and see how sponsored and messy Yahoo's searches are. If their page hit go up because of that, why not go fee-based? Because...
The majority of internet users, though, want their access fee to "pay" for all content. I'm a fan of this, personally. I'd pay an extra $10 a month for a basket of web sites that are otherwise a bit more expensive on the pay-per-use side (Google + Salon + ?).
Until then, Google wouldn't dare give up casual browsers to Yahoo's (or anyone's) potentially junky search. Most surfers don't know the difference; they go with whomever was on "on the funny commercial on the TV" = Yahoooooooo
Well-served = becoming the search engine of choice, much as Google did by providing the most relevant, popular pages at lightning speed.
I understand that basically they are bringing their search engine back in-house, but for my two cents, it'd be better to keep using Google in there. Inktomi may add something besides page popularity (link-based such as Google) but who knows how precise their algorithms are alone. Test it yourself.
Yahoo would be well-served building a cross-reference ranking from Google + Inktomi's results. Most of my searches are quite pointed anyway though, so I'm not sure how this could be improved.
Go try the Hotbot or MSN searches yerself. This may well be the future rankings on Yahoo results.
As a trial, I searched for "Oklahoma Dry Spell" and although there was one coinciding match in the top 2, the rest were completely different. It seems Inktomi is a bit more relaxed for inclusions. (14,888 vs Yahoo's 12,800).
For one of the myriad of search engine reviews comparing (roughly) Inktomi and Yahoo/Google, see this page
Something in my gut tells me that beyond all the extraneous tags, attributes and data types, the XML is going to have a hash code built into it.
Edit this file outside of MS Office (invalidating the hash code) and suffer the consequences: MS treats it as "untrusted" input and rips out only the text content, no formatting.
The hash will be a giant number created through a secure portion of the Intel-ish hardware calls. Keys hidden where? That'll be interesting to see who posts 'em first. Perhaps on a.NET server at MS hosting? Nah, this cripples offline Office. Keyless hash? Curious Curious.
Dune is a part of the must-read list, as far as the first book. The movie/tv stuff paled in comparison.
Before I read another "is there no shame" post, herbert is getting what he deserves: paid. This guy has a trmendous imagination and the motivation to organize it. I support the commercialization of anything, because it means it's popular. Unlike free-as-in-beer software, there is a place for "selling out" as much as possible. Fiction has a commercial lifetime, and capturing the sweet spot is part of the game.
Let the Dune franchise flourish.
mug
So this is the voice of the Status Quo. That's how money is made to him. He doesn't know how the New System will make money, and he doesn't have to think about it. It's easier to fight for the Status Quo. Why? Because he is scared and it fuels his energy.
Who wouldn't sympathize with this creature? The world it has grew up inside of, loved and excelled at, is eroding away. Mentally, this person terrified of a world where information is moved without oversight; copied without permissions.
We all know there is no way to prevent the erosion. When you get to brass tacks, there are mathematical theories about how information cannot ever be entirely "secure". His battle is to do two things:
- Increase the effort to bypass licensing schemes. Make the appearance of an unlicensed copy an obvious flag of misuse and globally "illegal" activity.
- Increase the punishments for conviction of misuse and license bypass. Make them so horrifically outrageous a small percentage of ne'er-do-wells avoid trying to bypass the license.
So, we have the DMCA and all the legal details. Trial lawyers salivating at the chance to walk these through the courts, since they are headlines and precedent-makers. On the side of the status quo, they are also money makers.
But, in the end, digital information, if able to be delivered to the senses, can be recaptured in ever-increasing quality. Reprocessing of this kind skirts most license protection. For others, only a gentle spin cycle takes care of the rest.
This is the crux of his fear. Movies begin to appear on swapped discs the weekend before release, copied from stolen or illegal screenings. On a P2P network, with ever-increasing sizes and trusted agents, the information flows faster and faster. 1.5MB/sec later, I am popping my own popcorn and bypassing the Status Quo.
Oh woe is the Status Quo! The RIAA is first in the lineup for bat, but the issues are the same. Artists MUST eventually build the New Way to directly reach consumers. If they would only band together, they'd have enough strength to do it. Right now, they are too timid. Newbies in the industry still clamor to jump into the status quo. They are so mistaken. But that's all they know, like Jack. He will die an unhappy man, unable to put the genie back in the bottle.
mug
If you build it...they will come. Games that charge online are trying out a model because there ARE people that'll pay to play.
Of course, those among us who scoff at these p(l)ayers wouldn't also mind being a profiteer from these sales.
These games are as dumb as chat seems to some people. But so is Quake 3 Arena after awhile. Every game tries to ride the wave of novelty until the payers dwindle. Keeping the costs down makes that curve a bit longer.
It's been said before and it bear repeating: If a game sucks, don't play it. Don't feed me psychological addition arguments here, we're not talking about codependent addicts. These are simply gameplayers let down by a release. BFD. Believe it or not, every industry, from shoes to automobiles, has a board discussing the good and bad new products. Unimportant to everyone except the profiteers. Be one of them and then gripe.
mug
There are plenty of con men with better tactics who didn't write code. The juiciest pasts of the "social engineering" stories are better found elsewhere.
Sorry but you are confusing fame and morals. They live in different worlds. Talking candidly with someone regardless of their past is based on DEMAND, not morals. "Why? Because we're interested, dummy!"
So why are we interested? Well, for the large part of the readership, there's no need to garner hacking tips or concepts from this guy. His methods were devious and ingenious for the time, though. Plus, a very small percentage of people reading here are actually hacking anything of importance (out of a small % of people even trying). Last hack I did was trying to recover a password protected word file. HA
Anyway, THIS GUY IS A CELEBRITY BECAUSE he took a road less travelled and is now exposing the path he took. A unique life, how is yours?
Much more interesting than 100.00% of the TV Guide/OK/Hello/People/Time/Newsweek brainfood out there. Slashdot is where this news should be. What are you here to read?
mug
The distros need to extend themselves to the idiot/grandma/secretary types everywhere. These people may not be looking for files with 'find', but they hold the checkbooks.
When a large company decides on a desktop, we're talking about a huge sweep in user base, everything from the techies that grumble or praise to the pointy-haired boss that is looking for the 'Any' key.
I'm not talking about slick windows to do what easy enough command-line params could do. Desktops need to be turnkey all the time. Even the concept of a WM is going to spin people. I advocate removing most concepts from end-users reaching them. Hence, why Apple wants OS X to be a bit on the "can't get there from here" appearance.
Cookie-cutter, die-cut desktops have a huge market, and the dumber they are, the more easily they're adopted by the masses. WebTV, AOL, MS XP and countless other ideas prove this again and again.
mug
I agree, except with the fact that identity theft, SPAM and the amount of crucial information online is growing tremendously. I want crime involving the internet to be punishable. Ann Rand this is not.
So in the end you sound like an overproduced Seal album?
Think about how good Bodeans' live album was, recorded in high school basements and bars.
I get what I pay for in recording. Sometimes what I want is reality, not audiophile test tracks.
mug
Any hacker worth the time wouldn't shuffle off to an ACM-esque programming comp. Just doesn't seem to be what's cool to me. I'm much more inclined to believe the monitoring box was hacked to flop-like-a-fish all night.
As far as hacking, why not run a box per team local to the gathering all night. They all have the same holes, and the team that can exploit it best wins.
For the majority of my time though, I'd prefer to simply watch presentations about known hacks and documented exploits. Esp. given the mystery about the GOBBLE and such latests dealing with P2P.
mug
RIGHT
Why, then:
- Doesn't my player, lib, network software, and net traffic have any changes in footprint or signature?
- What's being auto-updated when I disabled backhanded updates for Gnutella and Kazza clients?
- Why talk about this at all, except for scriptkiddie-esque bragging about vaporware? Childish.
- Can the RIAA sue over 1 million people? This seems like a great climax to the story! Their gathered records won't even be considered legal evidence! (issues with Procurement, Falsification, Privacy)
Back to your stations people. The troll bells are fading away.
So the city officials start shredding their garbage, continuing the precedent that everyone's garbage is free for picking.
Something tells me, though, that if you were to simply TAKE everyone's garbage in a city a few times, for the simple act of "diving" on a large-scale, that trash hauling service would have some serious value.
You are stealing - from a public place - a transfer between a client and a service provider. If I leave a package to be picked up by the postal carrier, this is private transaction. So should the garbage.
So we eventually get the garbage people hauling from the porch, the back yard, etc. when asked - and paid. Everyone else buys a shredder, and the remaining people get searched.
mug
I disagree strongly. Those PC donations are better left in the garbage, guy.
News flash: MS's tactics haven't changed since 1992. There are plenty of new excuses to criticize MS. If you worked for a company it squashed illegally, you may think differently.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
I read it differently. MS sees an opportunity to finally get all content digital and controlled. Movies, banking, games, education, etc, could all be managed securely if everyone played by the rules. Shaping up the OS, as the author sees, is part of it.
MS's "business side" realizes that Content Is King when all the gizmos are installed. Content providers are holding off until security is in place (draconian as it is). So we'll have crazy licensing schemes, Palladium, etc.
I think we're going to see a much bigger walk into the AOL-with-key-and-lock (fubar as it may be) items from MS. Media Player may just be evolving into the next Tivo that tries to please everyone.
So this side bunches together with the salepitchers to hold our hands and walk us into The New Way. It's gonna be scary.
The "strong" OS of XP and stable round of versions coming out now are an effort to woo the business world into getting MS in the server room, the media room, the bank, etc. Remember, besides Linux there are a lot of AS/400-esqe boxes still running that it would like to replace. MS could care less that you have dual boot on your PC. It wants those juicy corporate licenses, and now it wants to build a world for new licences where it doesn exist: Media Management.
Would you be surprised if MS announced it will be hosting and delivering first-run movies online through MSN, in a partnership with studio XYZ? If you look into MSN's portal, you'll see this is the obvious evolutionary step about to take place. That's big FU money, IMO. They're not going to rush, but I expect it soon.
mug
True enough, but the rantign is because the post is about Sony's problems, not the poster's.
You are on a tangent that doesn't apply. Re-read the article. This guy needs intervention or something drastic (a camping trip perhaps).
In the end, he didn't ask to be cured of the addiction though, so why help? Perhaps he's perversely happier in his little gamer hell.
Sounds like great alternatives. I hope they perfect the idea of Pay To Play games to everyone is happy.
However, this doesn't address the concept of gaming addiction. Combined with the "PayToPlay" online game issue, we'll always have these whiners.
When I bought Thief II, I knew it was a hugely addictive sequel to Thief and accepted the issue. After finishing, I went back to other segments of life happy to have spent the time. All things in moderation.
Your metaphor reveals how little you know about illness in the frist place.
SO what I actually read was a long post about this guy's psychological addiction to a video game? not.
People can become addicted to anything, I understand. In fact, I think this is a great way for Sony to make money. They are hitting the balance of support vs. suffering just right if this guy posted this huge rant, and then logged in for few more hours of paying to kill pixels.
In fact, most consumerism is based on impulsive and compulsive behavior. Your own company job may rely on it.
mug
This is a blurry difference. Open Source is not halfway.
Why don't you pay the fee, put all the documentation in the code as a set of comments.
ANSWER: Because of the agreement?
SO, does this prevent you from patching/commenting/changing any code based on what you read in the Support Forum? Sounds like a thin line. What amount of change based on support forum information is considered legal?
I'd have better comments if the target wasn't
It is always the solution. Gamlbing, alcohol, TV, anything. YOU GIVE IT UP.
After such a long post about a game that is buggy and the corporate-sized publisher that "cares more about profit" (surprise?) - I felt like this guy needed intervention, not sympathy.
If this were a single player RPG with bots, he'd play it, review it and be done. Upgrade, patch and expand, yay. But who cares after a while? It's a game! REMEMBER THAT PART?
mug
Here's some background on diamond films:
In July of this year, scientists in the United States reported that isotopically pure diamond films (containing 99.9% carbon-12 and not the 1% carbon-13 that is present in natural diamonds) had been grown. The pure films not only conducted hear 50% better than the best natural diamonds but also withstood damage by laser radiation ten times more effectively than natural diamond.
One could have the concept of combining functions: Glass that serves as a semiconductor, etc. Interesting.
I don't know if manufactured diamonds theaten the jewelry industry, but I doubt it. Although hundreds of almost-slaves labor in mines so deep it's scary, and the industry is full of creepy deals, people buy them, and the industry churns them out just the same.
mug
In the SW storyline, this may give you an idea of the creativity being cultured online for fan fiction.
Fan fiction is no more than collective imagination. When you envision the "just past the ending" scenes of your favorite move, you don't discuss it? Sounds like boring date, you.
/. It's not much different, IMO.
Fan fiction can be as bad as anything built through a collective, but this departure from a bunch of Harvard screenwriters' 6-month chop-n-splice is a refreshing. How many movies are you skipping because it seems formulaic, formulaic with a single twist or anti-formulaic in an almost reactionary sense?
With fan fiction, its a bit of a random roll of the dice. Now, I will admit that having fans create their own story is a bit like asking for more of the same. But a movie sticks to a genre/premise at some level anyway, so either accept that or eat your popcorn and go home.
The negative on fan fiction seem a bit ironic given the pro open-source stance seen on the
mug
Well, you may just live long enough to make that decision.
Google would be wise to wait this out and see how sponsored and messy Yahoo's searches are. If their page hit go up because of that, why not go fee-based? Because...
The majority of internet users, though, want their access fee to "pay" for all content. I'm a fan of this, personally. I'd pay an extra $10 a month for a basket of web sites that are otherwise a bit more expensive on the pay-per-use side (Google + Salon + ?).
Until then, Google wouldn't dare give up casual browsers to Yahoo's (or anyone's) potentially junky search. Most surfers don't know the difference; they go with whomever was on "on the funny commercial on the TV" = Yahoooooooo
mug
Well-served = becoming the search engine of choice, much as Google did by providing the most relevant, popular pages at lightning speed.
I understand that basically they are bringing their search engine back in-house, but for my two cents, it'd be better to keep using Google in there. Inktomi may add something besides page popularity (link-based such as Google) but who knows how precise their algorithms are alone. Test it yourself.
mug
Inktomi's current customers
Yahoo would be well-served building a cross-reference ranking from Google + Inktomi's results. Most of my searches are quite pointed anyway though, so I'm not sure how this could be improved.
Go try the Hotbot or MSN searches yerself. This may well be the future rankings on Yahoo results.
As a trial, I searched for "Oklahoma Dry Spell" and although there was one coinciding match in the top 2, the rest were completely different. It seems Inktomi is a bit more relaxed for inclusions. (14,888 vs Yahoo's 12,800).
For one of the myriad of search engine reviews comparing (roughly) Inktomi and Yahoo/Google, see this page
mug
Something in my gut tells me that beyond all the extraneous tags, attributes and data types, the XML is going to have a hash code built into it.
.NET server at MS hosting? Nah, this cripples offline Office. Keyless hash?
Edit this file outside of MS Office (invalidating the hash code) and suffer the consequences: MS treats it as "untrusted" input and rips out only the text content, no formatting.
The hash will be a giant number created through a secure portion of the Intel-ish hardware calls. Keys hidden where? That'll be interesting to see who posts 'em first. Perhaps on a
Curious Curious.
mug