I wouldnt' say silly. The specifics of the question itself if silly, but the overall question can be discussed vagely enough. And unfortunately, answered vagely as well.
You can pretty much ignore this, as I am kinda just doing a self ping for a later read;)
Of course I would not bash the ACLU if they were even-handed in their approach. But since they clearly have a political agenda with their selective lawsuits, I do have a problem with them. As usual, if the ACLU is compatible with your political leanings, you can not see the problem.
What amazes me (not really) is people who are so blindly partisan that they will stand behind a man who is breaking actual laws and destroying the ideals of our country in the process. Who gives a shit about Democrats or Republicans, Bush is the problem here.
Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. Mr. Kettle - Mr. Pot
Ever hear of ECHELON? I don't recall a warrant being sought for each intercepted conversation. The ACLU was upset about that, but did nothing against a Democrat in Clinton. But once a minor subset of this eavesdropping occures(you know, the one where one bad guy is on the other end) then the ACLU starts with the lawsuits. I can't think of anything more partizen than that hypocrisy. Well, maybe your stance, but that is another subject all together.
But did they file suit against Clinton? Heck no, Clinton was a Democrat president. The ACLU is a partizan organization and will not go after Clinton.
And now that a very small subset of the eavesdropping that Clinton's Administration instituted with Echelon is being done by a GOP administration... Well... it's lawsuit time. The ACLU is about as partizan as you can get.
Don't believe me? They even took down all the info at www.echelonwatch.org because now that the ACLU is sueing the W administration, it must cover up the fact that something MUCH worse was going on in the Clinton Administration. You can still check out the info at www.echelonwatch.org by using the wayback machine at http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
So yes, if you tend to be to the left of the aisle, you love the ACLU, but if you are a centrist or lean to the right, the ACLU can be seen for what it really is - The legal arm of the DNC.
I have no doubt I'll be modded down because of the extreme left leanings of/. But it doesn't make this any less true.
Not really a zealot here, sorry. Just pointing out that a freakin story about bees flying can't escape the MSM agenda now-a-days. But since the MSM is working for you, you don't see the problem.
I know there are multiple sources for stem cells. I simply objected to the readily available source that the vast majority here are clamoring for without giving a second thought - embryonic stem cells.
You can read whatever else you want from my statement, but that is all I was getting at. Get the stem cells from other sources(target's own body, umbilical cord, etc...), and I have no problem.
Hell, what do you think happens when a woman has her period? MENSTRUATION IS MURDER!
An unfertilized egg is lost, as well as the newly formed lining of the awaiting uterus. Do I have to explain the birds and bees to you to help you differentiate between an unfertilized egg and a fertilized one?
So because you believe life begins when a baby leaves the mother's womb, and others believe it begins at conception, that gives you the right to murder(as seen by the other side) a baby for better looking skin?
Your flippant attitude to what others see as murder should be moded WAY DOWN.
... The body bags and little rags of children torn in two,
And the jellied brains of those who remain to put
the finger right on you,
As the Madmen play on words and make us all
dance to their song,...
The song was about war mongering, but the babies being killed and euphemisms aren't used to build better weapons, but to trivialize the slaughter of millions and the by-product is used to make others live longer.
The science was shown to be forged, but keep on with the abortions to fuel the lust for eternal life.
No thanks, I'll not inject myself with dead babies.
computer simulations about something as complex as this is more voodoo than anything else. I'm obviously not going to make you think critically about something that is just assumed. But I will keep asking questions for which assumptions and simulations are the only bit of proof that is offered at this point.
WOW!!!! You really like to avoid a subject rather than debate it. I know Theories are not speculation, I went to school too. Show an example of an eye forming where one did not exist(over MANY generations obviously, since I have to spell it out for you), and you will go a long way towards ending this ongoing debate.
I won't be holding my breath waiting though.
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Here's a little clue for you - I do believe evolution is the best fit for life as we know it, but the arrogance being displayed against those asking for some evidence(other than micro evolution) has turned me into a cynic.
Sorry, you've pegged me as something I am not. THE #1 issue that non-evolutionists have with evolution is the fact that there is no fossile record, nor observed occurrence of a eye evolving(or other sensory organ) where there was not one.
Your quoting of "some scientist" saying it would take 300,000 years does not make it so. Theories, hypotheses, speculation, etc... are all nice and good - But the proof is in the pudding. And right now, I'm not seeing any pudding.
I'm not a religious nut or anything, I just like to see proof for THE Scientific Achievement of 2005. This honor is more politics in Science than anything else, and does itself a disservice to science.
The problem is that all those sticking theor fingers in their ears with respect to ID say that it belongs in a comparative religion class. But comparative religion classes are rarely found in high school. You likely only see them in college.
With the strained relations we have in the US today, a lot of it based upon religion. IT would really benefit us to have some kind of comparative religion classes in high school. But that would take away from all the self esteem crap being pushed in all the school systems now, which in turned pushed out REAL learning.
You should know that you need to check you brain at the door here on/. anything that makes one rethink their leftist leanings will NOT be tolerated here.
I know many here would be screaming bloody murder if this attack had happened and they would all be pointing their fingers at W. But when a plan is foiled like this it still not good enough.
I'd LOVE for some blowback on the misuse of the Patriot Act and things like this, and that should be a condition of the Patriot Act's renual. Accountability is key, and right now I don't see any.
... but from what I can remeber from my youth - IF you gave me 1/10th of a game that couldn't be used at all, or had ZERO replay value - then you have given me nothing and I will not be very enthused to pressure my folks to return and get the rest.
...Sorry they got caught. That is it. Why do you think they have been trying to push their own crappy MP3 type format? To get you to buy all new hardware that WILL work with their form of DRM. The best thing we can do as a customer base is to avoid all Sony CDs like the plague. It's the only thing they can possibly understand.
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Do you want as many do overs as you wanted recounts until Gore won in FLA in 2000? What was the final tally of recounts there? 3? 4?
I'd rather a recount/do over of past elections in the Chicago area.
I wouldnt' say silly. The specifics of the question itself if silly, but the overall question can be discussed vagely enough. And unfortunately, answered vagely as well.
;)
You can pretty much ignore this, as I am kinda just doing a self ping for a later read
Of course I would not bash the ACLU if they were even-handed in their approach. But since they clearly have a political agenda with their selective lawsuits, I do have a problem with them. As usual, if the ACLU is compatible with your political leanings, you can not see the problem.
Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. Mr. Kettle - Mr. Pot
Ever hear of ECHELON? I don't recall a warrant being sought for each intercepted conversation. The ACLU was upset about that, but did nothing against a Democrat in Clinton. But once a minor subset of this eavesdropping occures(you know, the one where one bad guy is on the other end) then the ACLU starts with the lawsuits. I can't think of anything more partizen than that hypocrisy. Well, maybe your stance, but that is another subject all together.
It's really very simple. The ACLU did actually take a stand against ECHELON at the time. They setup a website to collect information on ECHELON in August of 1999 - http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/15059prs1999111 6.html
... Well ... it's lawsuit time. The ACLU is about as partizan as you can get.
/. But it doesn't make this any less true.
But did they file suit against Clinton? Heck no, Clinton was a Democrat president. The ACLU is a partizan organization and will not go after Clinton.
And now that a very small subset of the eavesdropping that Clinton's Administration instituted with Echelon is being done by a GOP administration
Don't believe me? They even took down all the info at www.echelonwatch.org because now that the ACLU is sueing the W administration, it must cover up the fact that something MUCH worse was going on in the Clinton Administration. You can still check out the info at www.echelonwatch.org by using the wayback machine at http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
So yes, if you tend to be to the left of the aisle, you love the ACLU, but if you are a centrist or lean to the right, the ACLU can be seen for what it really is - The legal arm of the DNC.
I have no doubt I'll be modded down because of the extreme left leanings of
Anyone who would use the Flying Spaghetti Monster can not possibly hold an intelligent conversation. Good-bye.
BTW, MSM = Main Stream Media.
Not really a zealot here, sorry. Just pointing out that a freakin story about bees flying can't escape the MSM agenda now-a-days. But since the MSM is working for you, you don't see the problem.
Irrational to me is saying God doesn't exist because we can now fathom how Bee's fly.
... provided we stop all the dead from voting Democratic as well.
I know there are multiple sources for stem cells. I simply objected to the readily available source that the vast majority here are clamoring for without giving a second thought - embryonic stem cells.
You can read whatever else you want from my statement, but that is all I was getting at. Get the stem cells from other sources(target's own body, umbilical cord, etc...), and I have no problem.
An unfertilized egg is lost, as well as the newly formed lining of the awaiting uterus. Do I have to explain the birds and bees to you to help you differentiate between an unfertilized egg and a fertilized one?
So ALL people who think abortions are murder bomb clinics? You are pathetic.
So because you believe life begins when a baby leaves the mother's womb, and others believe it begins at conception, that gives you the right to murder(as seen by the other side) a baby for better looking skin?
Your flippant attitude to what others see as murder should be moded WAY DOWN.
Against God's will? Not hardly. More likely against harvesting the aborted babies for the material to make your skin look younger.
two,
And the jellied brains of those who remain to put
the finger right on you,
As the Madmen play on words and make us all
dance to their song,
The song was about war mongering, but the babies being killed and euphemisms aren't used to build better weapons, but to trivialize the slaughter of millions and the by-product is used to make others live longer.
The science was shown to be forged, but keep on with the abortions to fuel the lust for eternal life.
No thanks, I'll not inject myself with dead babies.
A bit harsh, but the truth hurts.
computer simulations about something as complex as this is more voodoo than anything else. I'm obviously not going to make you think critically about something that is just assumed. But I will keep asking questions for which assumptions and simulations are the only bit of proof that is offered at this point.
WOW!!!! You really like to avoid a subject rather than debate it. I know Theories are not speculation, I went to school too. Show an example of an eye forming where one did not exist(over MANY generations obviously, since I have to spell it out for you), and you will go a long way towards ending this ongoing debate.
I won't be holding my breath waiting though.
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Here's a little clue for you - I do believe evolution is the best fit for life as we know it, but the arrogance being displayed against those asking for some evidence(other than micro evolution) has turned me into a cynic.
Sorry, you've pegged me as something I am not. THE #1 issue that non-evolutionists have with evolution is the fact that there is no fossile record, nor observed occurrence of a eye evolving(or other sensory organ) where there was not one.
Your quoting of "some scientist" saying it would take 300,000 years does not make it so. Theories, hypotheses, speculation, etc... are all nice and good - But the proof is in the pudding. And right now, I'm not seeing any pudding.
I'm not a religious nut or anything, I just like to see proof for THE Scientific Achievement of 2005. This honor is more politics in Science than anything else, and does itself a disservice to science.
... Explained and shown the spontaneous generation of eyes, and other sensory organs. Right?
Oh, they haven't? So it's still just a throery then. OK, then what's all the fuss?
Thank you for your voice of reason in this sea of insanity.
The problem is that all those sticking theor fingers in their ears with respect to ID say that it belongs in a comparative religion class. But comparative religion classes are rarely found in high school. You likely only see them in college.
With the strained relations we have in the US today, a lot of it based upon religion. IT would really benefit us to have some kind of comparative religion classes in high school. But that would take away from all the self esteem crap being pushed in all the school systems now, which in turned pushed out REAL learning.
You should know that you need to check you brain at the door here on /. anything that makes one rethink their leftist leanings will NOT be tolerated here.
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Search this for 'Brooklyn Bridge' - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/16/politic
I know many here would be screaming bloody murder if this attack had happened and they would all be pointing their fingers at W. But when a plan is foiled like this it still not good enough.
I'd LOVE for some blowback on the misuse of the Patriot Act and things like this, and that should be a condition of the Patriot Act's renual. Accountability is key, and right now I don't see any.
... but from what I can remeber from my youth - IF you gave me 1/10th of a game that couldn't be used at all, or had ZERO replay value - then you have given me nothing and I will not be very enthused to pressure my folks to return and get the rest.
I'd prefer that Cali and Mass secede instead.
...
We can't always get what we want, but if you try sometimes
...Sorry they got caught. That is it. Why do you think they have been trying to push their own crappy MP3 type format? To get you to buy all new hardware that WILL work with their form of DRM. The best thing we can do as a customer base is to avoid all Sony CDs like the plague. It's the only thing they can possibly understand.