Qhat a surprise, their figures are based on totally bogus reasoning.
They equate single and dual-CPU commodity x86 boxes with 24-CPU US3 servers with 100% redundancy for guaranteed uptime.
No wonder their figures are utterly bogus.
If you take their own calculations, factor in COMPARABLE figures across all 3 platofrms, then you get Windows as the most expensive, Linux second and Solaris woith the lowest TCO.
But then, that would not have made for a good story, would it...
However, you can sure as hell bed your bottom dollar that it prevented those murderes from carrying out any OTHER murders (before you protest, let me remind you that they had already, it turned out, tried to abduct another kid before they got Jamie).
So there, alone, is evidence that the CCTV in question has prevented other murders AND enabled the murderers to be caught.
All in all, pretty good case in faviur of the CCTV, woudl you not say?
"More famous example: we've all seen the CCTV footage of two teenagers kidnapping a young boy from a shopping mall. Can anyone tell me how useful they were then?"
Ah, I believe you are referring to the kidnapping and murder of Jamie Bulger.
The toddler whos killers were caught precisely BECAUSE of that CCTV footage of which you are so disparaging.
So to answer your question of "how useful were they [the CCTV cameras] then?", I would say "Absolutely vital".
"Their is no way integrated video will EVER be viable for the gamer" Can I remind you of this in a week or two when the nForce2 - based systems start coming out, then?
You know, the ones with a kick-ass embedded GeForce 4MX, which wipes the floor with my GeForce 2...
Off topic I know, but the third crime for which the UK (not just England, please note) has the death penalty is "arson in a naval dockyard".
Mind you, the thought of software pirates swinging from the gallows is an interesting image! Althogh I think hanging Spammers would be more likely to meet with universal support:-)
Ah, right you are. Just thought for a moment that you were one of those bozos who were complaning about "how dare the Greeks prosecute them for this" without knowing he facts - there were a lot of those morons in the media at the time in the UK:-(
However, as to your example of the indisious (sp??) and wholly unjust law, I wholly agree with that part.
" some Brits, on holiday in Greece, had been handed down sentences of about a year for... planespotting."
Get your facts straight.
They were convicted of SPYING, not planespotting.
They were deliberately photogtraphing Greek millitary bases, having been repeatedly asked many times by the authorities NOT to do so because it woudl be considered spying.
The stupid idiots refused to stop, so in teh end the Greek authorities had no option but to arrest them.
So please, get your facts straight before citing examples!
Thanks for the info. That's actually rather fuller and, being placed better in context, a more accurate explanation than I managed to (fail) to give! I'll try to be a bit more accurate on the subject if it ever crops up again.
However, it does, I would suggest, support the point I was stumbling over making, namely that 1984 wasn't set in 1984 for any mythical "30 year rule".
Anyway. You claim to have a different explanation for the choice of title - please do share it with us. You never know, you might convince people if you present enough of your theory and supportive evidence. 's what discussion is about.
Hey, if you have information which helps lead to a better understanding of the issue, then please do share. I, for one, would love to read your explanation.
OTOH, if you are just trolling to make it sound like you know more than you do, then please do shut up.
You mean Arthur C Clarke's First Law - "When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong."
Oh, and Orwell set it in 1984 because he wanted to pick a time reasonably in the future, and as he was writing it in 1948, he just swapped the last two year digits round, thought it sounded like as good a future date as any, and used it.
"What if every time you wanted to start your car you had to wait 10 seconds. Wouldn't that be annoying? "
I guess you've never ever driven a diesil (sp?) vehicle then. Where you have to wait a few seconds for the glowplug to warm up before you can start the engine.
Yup, you best stay away from such evil machines as they will do nothing but annoy you...
(OK, more recent such engines take far less time and even have pre-warmed glowplugs, it's true, but the principle is still the same)
Just because YOU do not like something does not mean that the rest of the world has to dislike it. It's called Free Will or Thinking For Yourself. You should try it some day.
"Lets say the flight is 2 hours long. 99.99999% uptime on the software that connects the yoke to the control surface means it would be down for 0.08 of a second on each 2 hour flight, hardly anything that would make me thing things were unsafe."
Uh-hu.
you do realise you've described *SEVEN* nines uptime, don't you?
For five nines, your example means 8s without control. For four nines, that's 80 seconds without control. Are you SURE that wouldn't make you feel unsafe, if the pilot had no control for 80 seconds? Especially if they occurred during final decent and landing!
Of course, those times scale up. On a trans-Atlantic flight, that's at least 48s / 8mins respectively...
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"I feel it is my right to break those laws, just as it is the government's right to punish me for doing so. "
Presumably you have no objections to the idea of me excersising my right to break the law by murdering you, then? Allowing that the government then has the right to punish me for doing so.
they did fsck all and were extremely dis-interested.
the TPS are, in my experience, a complete waste of time and serve no purpose whatsoever - I have seen no drop (actually, a rise) in telesales calls since registering with the TPS.
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Qhat a surprise, their figures are based on totally bogus reasoning.
They equate single and dual-CPU commodity x86 boxes with 24-CPU US3 servers with 100% redundancy for guaranteed uptime.
No wonder their figures are utterly bogus.
If you take their own calculations, factor in COMPARABLE figures across all 3 platofrms, then you get Windows as the most expensive, Linux second and Solaris woith the lowest TCO.
But then, that would not have made for a good story, would it...
However, you can sure as hell bed your bottom dollar that it prevented those murderes from carrying out any OTHER murders (before you protest, let me remind you that they had already, it turned out, tried to abduct another kid before they got Jamie).
So there, alone, is evidence that the CCTV in question has prevented other murders AND enabled the murderers to be caught.
All in all, pretty good case in faviur of the CCTV, woudl you not say?
"More famous example: we've all seen the CCTV footage of two teenagers kidnapping a young boy from a shopping mall. Can anyone tell me how useful they were then?"
Ah, I believe you are referring to the kidnapping and murder of Jamie Bulger.
The toddler whos killers were caught precisely BECAUSE of that CCTV footage of which you are so disparaging.
So to answer your question of "how useful were they [the CCTV cameras] then?", I would say "Absolutely vital".
"Their is no way integrated video will EVER be viable for the gamer"
Can I remind you of this in a week or two when the nForce2 - based systems start coming out, then?
You know, the ones with a kick-ass embedded GeForce 4MX, which wipes the floor with my GeForce 2...
Actually, no it doesn't, because it has yet to be proven to be legally binding.
Please check YOUR facts!
Off topic I know, but the third crime for which the UK (not just England, please note) has the death penalty is "arson in a naval dockyard".
:-)
Mind you, the thought of software pirates swinging from the gallows is an interesting image! Althogh I think hanging Spammers would be more likely to meet with universal support
Ah, right you are. :-(
Just thought for a moment that you were one of those bozos who were complaning about "how dare the Greeks prosecute them for this" without knowing he facts - there were a lot of those morons in the media at the time in the UK
However, as to your example of the indisious (sp??) and wholly unjust law, I wholly agree with that part.
" some Brits, on holiday in Greece, had been handed down sentences of about a year for... planespotting."
Get your facts straight.
They were convicted of SPYING, not planespotting.
They were deliberately photogtraphing Greek millitary bases, having been repeatedly asked many times by the authorities NOT to do so because it woudl be considered spying.
The stupid idiots refused to stop, so in teh end the Greek authorities had no option but to arrest them.
So please, get your facts straight before citing examples!
Thanks for the info. That's actually rather fuller and, being placed better in context, a more accurate explanation than I managed to (fail) to give! I'll try to be a bit more accurate on the subject if it ever crops up again.
However, it does, I would suggest, support the point I was stumbling over making, namely that 1984 wasn't set in 1984 for any mythical "30 year rule".
Tut tut. such uncalled-for agression.
I wonder why?
Anyway. You claim to have a different explanation for the choice of title - please do share it with us. You never know, you might convince people if you present enough of your theory and supportive evidence. 's what discussion is about.
Do calm down.
He said it was set 30 years after it was written, and stated it was published in 1954.
When in actual fact, it was written in 1948 and published in 1949 - neither of those dates are 1954, do you agree?
Therefore, 1984 is NOT set "30 years" after writing / publication - if it were, then we would all be talking about 1978 or 1979.
So either we shoudl talk about a "36-year rule", or if you want to round it to nice easy to use multiples of 10, the "40 year rul".
Or we just accept that the so-called "30 year rule" is, in fact, just a myth.
BTW, your "?" key seems to be a bit sticky.
Don't want to, or can't?
Hey, if you have information which helps lead to a better understanding of the issue, then please do share. I, for one, would love to read your explanation.
OTOH, if you are just trolling to make it sound like you know more than you do, then please do shut up.
You mean Arthur C Clarke's First Law - "When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong."
Do at least try to attribute the correct author!
Nice theory.
Shame it is flawed.
"1984" was published in 1949, not 1954.
Oh, and Orwell set it in 1984 because he wanted to pick a time reasonably in the future, and as he was writing it in 1948, he just swapped the last two year digits round, thought it sounded like as good a future date as any, and used it.
No "30 year rule".
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
Fair enough - 3 against 1, I'll withdraw my comments then ;-)
:-)
Mind you, I have to wonder if the few seconds of displaying the "Thou shalt not pirate" FBI warning is such a big deal?
I find it useful in that I insert the DVD, go to the fridge, grab a beer, grab some crisps, sit down and it's ready to play the movie
"What if every time you wanted to start your car you had to wait 10 seconds. Wouldn't that be annoying? "
I guess you've never ever driven a diesil (sp?) vehicle then. Where you have to wait a few seconds for the glowplug to warm up before you can start the engine.
Yup, you best stay away from such evil machines as they will do nothing but annoy you...
(OK, more recent such engines take far less time and even have pre-warmed glowplugs, it's true, but the principle is still the same)
"Why do people keep buying this stuff?"
Erm, because they like it, perhaps?
Just because YOU do not like something does not mean that the rest of the world has to dislike it. It's called Free Will or Thinking For Yourself. You should try it some day.
Serves them write for trying to play Celine bloody Dion in the first place!
"Lets say the flight is 2 hours long. 99.99999% uptime on the software that connects the yoke to the control surface means it would be down for 0.08 of a second on each 2 hour flight, hardly anything that would make me thing things were unsafe."
Uh-hu.
you do realise you've described *SEVEN* nines uptime, don't you?
For five nines, your example means 8s without control. For four nines, that's 80 seconds without control. Are you SURE that wouldn't make you feel unsafe, if the pilot had no control for 80 seconds? Especially if they occurred during final decent and landing!
Of course, those times scale up. On a trans-Atlantic flight, that's at least 48s / 8mins respectively...
There's no gravity in space?
Blimey.
So why to planets still orbit stars, eh?
"I think it'll rank up there with the artifical island in Japan that houses the new airport"
Ummm, don't you mean Hong Kong, not Japan?
"I feel it is my right to break those laws, just as it is the government's right to punish me for doing so. "
Presumably you have no objections to the idea of me excersising my right to break the law by murdering you, then? Allowing that the government then has the right to punish me for doing so.
...would RMS be demanding Linux be referred to as Borland/Linux?
No?
Didn't think so.
Then I just hope I never EVER have the unplesant misfortune of having to maintain any code you write.
With such stupid variable names, all you do is make the job harder for anyone else.
Still, as long as it makes you happy, right?
Oh, I have got back to the TPS.
I told them exactly what happened.
they did fsck all and were extremely dis-interested.
the TPS are, in my experience, a complete waste of time and serve no purpose whatsoever - I have seen no drop (actually, a rise) in telesales calls since registering with the TPS.