" It's as simple as if I can't check myself the songs in the album before purchase, I won't be buying that CD at all."
I guess you have never set foot inside a music store for many many years then, otherwise you would know that it is perfectly possible to check any CD before buying it. I do that quite often if it is a CD of which I am unsure.
Tell me - when you download a CD and decide it is not worth buying, do you delete ALL of the tracks from your system? Including the track(s) you did like?
"1 - The fact that I get or not the song from the internet is irrelevant. I am not stealing since I am not depriving someone from stuff he has, nor profits he could make. How can someone steal bits? Even those are just copied into my box!"
You are depriving someone of the money they woudl have got had you actually PAID for the music you stole.
So the EFF needs our donations to protect people whose intention is to steal?
Sorry, no way. People who amass collections of in excess of 1,000 mp3s (of songs they do not posses on CD) are by no stretch of the imagination "victims".
Although I disapprove of it, I can see at least a hint of validity in the claim "I download to try the song out, and if I like it I buy the album". But 1,000+ songs in one go? Nope, that's just plain piracy, pure and simple.
"For that matter, how much less software overall would there be without gcc and Emacs? "
Sure, without gcc there'd *probably* be less software development (although it is worth noting that there wewre free C compilers around long before gcc).
However, the lack of emacs woudl make absolutely zero dent in the volume of software development - there are PLENTY of good free text editors for every platform known to man - nothing special about emacs from that point of view.
Nope, nothing so sinister, just posting whilst half asleep.
Thinking "ftp", but typing "apache".
The rest of my points still stand though. As proven by many of the posts on this thread - people falling overthemselves to declare "It must be an inside job", only shutting up when the official announcement of what happened is posted - yet, it was a bug in some open source software, which caused their system to be compromised5 MONTHS ago.
Now, hands up all those who would be so happy to absolve any M$ box admins for not detecting that they had been compromised 5 months ago?
Just pointing out the inevitable hypocricy of it all - for evidence, just dip into this topic and read some of the many "It must have been an inside job" posts - they are hard to miss...
...if this was a site hosted on IIS, then we would already be flooded with posts laughing at how insecure M$ systems are and gloating how this doesn't happen with open source systems.
Yet here we have a site which one woudl have expected to be rather well secured, and it's been cracked.
I guess that blows the "Apache is absolutely secure" myth.
So next time I buy some hardware which comes with some GPL'd software, you will have no objection to me modifying the software and distributing the binary but refusing to release the changed source?
After all, acording to you, "If the software comes with the hardware, I can do what I want with it, too."
"We are registering a steadily increasing demand for Linux-based solutions from our custumers"
WTF? Since when do most airline passangers give a stuff about what OS an airline uses to run their systems?
Sounds like bullshit to me...
What next? BA announces that they are only buying AMD-based computers from now on because they have had a steadily increasing demand from customers that they use Athlons?
UPS announces that in response to increasing customer demands for them to use Pirelli tyres on their trucks, they are signing an exclusive contract with Pirelli?
Actually, the Tungsten C does NOT use a keyboard instead of Graffiti.
It offers both simultaneously.
Yes, there is a mini keyboard, BUT graffiti is also very much there - graffiti 2, in fact, where you don't have to cram your writing into that small area below the screen, you write on the screen itself (and optionally it will show you the squiggle you draw at the same time).
I guess you have never heard of things like Sun's SunFire range - CPU failure in your 106-CPU 15k? No problem. Just map out the faulty board, remove the board, add the new board, and map it back in all whilst the machine is still up and running.
Same with all other components - hotswap memory, CPU, PCI cards etc etc etc.
"5% of Windows boxes crash 2 times a day. The other 95% crash more than this. Linux doesn't crash."
If you are going to argue your case, then you do yourself no favours whatsoever by lying.
Can you cite reliable references to your claims about Windows crashes?
No, you can't. Because you are lying.
And just for the record, Linux crashes. It's a fact. I have 4 machines here, all running Linux, which crash from time to time (we are talking crash'n'burn'n'reboot).
So that's two of your two "facts" which are completely wrong.
Might be interesting to buy and have as my BSD laptop - reasonable power and a good secure OS woudl suit me fine for portable computing, and this sounds as though it could be just the thing!
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" It's as simple as if I can't check myself the songs in the album before purchase, I won't be buying that CD at all."
I guess you have never set foot inside a music store for many many years then, otherwise you would know that it is perfectly possible to check any CD before buying it. I do that quite often if it is a CD of which I am unsure.
Tell me - when you download a CD and decide it is not worth buying, do you delete ALL of the tracks from your system? Including the track(s) you did like?
"1 - The fact that I get or not the song from the internet is irrelevant. I am not stealing since I am not depriving someone from stuff he has, nor profits he could make. How can someone steal bits? Even those are just copied into my box!"
You are depriving someone of the money they woudl have got had you actually PAID for the music you stole.
Simple as that.
"The problem is I'm not rich. I can't spend all that money on CDs"
Boo hoo.
You can't afford to buy loads of CDs, so just do without.
Your excuse does NOT justify downloading bucketloads of mp3s "because I can't afford to buy CDs".
Theft because you "can't afford to buy" is never justified (with the exception of food to stave off starvation, but that hardly applies here).
So the EFF needs our donations to protect people whose intention is to steal?
Sorry, no way. People who amass collections of in excess of 1,000 mp3s (of songs they do not posses on CD) are by no stretch of the imagination "victims".
Although I disapprove of it, I can see at least a hint of validity in the claim "I download to try the song out, and if I like it I buy the album". But 1,000+ songs in one go? Nope, that's just plain piracy, pure and simple.
You do the crime, you do the time.
"What happened to the freedom of speech? "
Absolutely nothing.
You still have exactly the same freedom of speech as you did before.
Who is suddenly removing your right to say things? Nobody.
"There are also down sides to http/ftp should we change them as well? The answer is no."
Erm, actually, the HTTP spec HAS been changed in the past to overcome deficiencies in the original.
HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1
HTTPS
I think the answer you were actually looking for was "yes".
" Given the Terminator's capabilities it/he is clearly a derivative of Emacs, not Vi"
:-)
Agreed. ESPECIALLY as he describes himself as an obselete model - that's definitly emacs as opposed to vi
" 60hz is close to the same frequency that your heart runs on, and can cause you to go into defib."
Really?
Your heart beats at around 3,600 beats per minute?
Blimey. Mine is only doing 72 bpm at the moment. Which means either that I'm helluva chilled out, or that one of us must have a serious heart problem!
"For that matter, how much less software overall would there be without gcc and Emacs? "
Sure, without gcc there'd *probably* be less software development (although it is worth noting that there wewre free C compilers around long before gcc).
However, the lack of emacs woudl make absolutely zero dent in the volume of software development - there are PLENTY of good free text editors for every platform known to man - nothing special about emacs from that point of view.
"Personally, I've never seen much point in limiting uSUage to a defined group. Better to keep the password secret."
Right. And when someone manages to brute-force crack your system's root password, then what?
Hey, how about use the wheel group AND keep the password secret! You neve know, it just might save your ass one day...
Funny, I just tried a search on "To be or not to be" and of the first 10 results, all 10 were related to the phrase "To be or not to be".
You did put "" round the phrase, didn't you?
Nope, nothing so sinister, just posting whilst half asleep.
Thinking "ftp", but typing "apache".
The rest of my points still stand though. As proven by many of the posts on this thread - people falling overthemselves to declare "It must be an inside job", only shutting up when the official announcement of what happened is posted - yet, it was a bug in some open source software, which caused their system to be compromised5 MONTHS ago.
Now, hands up all those who would be so happy to absolve any M$ box admins for not detecting that they had been compromised 5 months ago?
Just pointing out the inevitable hypocricy of it all - for evidence, just dip into this topic and read some of the many "It must have been an inside job" posts - they are hard to miss...
...if this was a site hosted on IIS, then we would already be flooded with posts laughing at how insecure M$ systems are and gloating how this doesn't happen with open source systems.
Yet here we have a site which one woudl have expected to be rather well secured, and it's been cracked.
I guess that blows the "Apache is absolutely secure" myth.
Cool.
So next time I buy some hardware which comes with some GPL'd software, you will have no objection to me modifying the software and distributing the binary but refusing to release the changed source?
After all, acording to you, "If the software comes with the hardware, I can do what I want with it, too."
"Perhaps they use self-check-in computers. Where passengers can check in their own luggage."
Again, who woudl a customer care (or even KNOW) upon what OS such an application was running?
Nope, it still sonds like bullshit to me.
"We are registering a steadily increasing demand for Linux-based solutions from our custumers"
WTF? Since when do most airline passangers give a stuff about what OS an airline uses to run their systems?
Sounds like bullshit to me...
What next? BA announces that they are only buying AMD-based computers from now on because they have had a steadily increasing demand from customers that they use Athlons?
UPS announces that in response to increasing customer demands for them to use Pirelli tyres on their trucks, they are signing an exclusive contract with Pirelli?
Actually, the Tungsten C does NOT use a keyboard instead of Graffiti.
It offers both simultaneously.
Yes, there is a mini keyboard, BUT graffiti is also very much there - graffiti 2, in fact, where you don't have to cram your writing into that small area below the screen, you write on the screen itself (and optionally it will show you the squiggle you draw at the same time).
If you like the alm Tungsten but prefer WiFi over Bluetooth, then just buy a Tungsten C. WiFi built-in. It's rather nisce, too.
Yes, but the "other" to which he refers is Sun's new SUSe offering.
I guess you have never heard of things like Sun's SunFire range - CPU failure in your 106-CPU 15k? No problem. Just map out the faulty board, remove the board, add the new board, and map it back in all whilst the machine is still up and running.
Same with all other components - hotswap memory, CPU, PCI cards etc etc etc.
It just works.
"The author of the article (Egen Moglen) is an extremely well known IP lawyer"
May be, but I've never heard of him. He can't be THAT "extremely well known"...
"5% of Windows boxes crash 2 times a day. The other 95% crash more than this. Linux doesn't crash."
If you are going to argue your case, then you do yourself no favours whatsoever by lying.
Can you cite reliable references to your claims about Windows crashes?
No, you can't. Because you are lying.
And just for the record, Linux crashes. It's a fact. I have 4 machines here, all running Linux, which crash from time to time (we are talking crash'n'burn'n'reboot).
So that's two of your two "facts" which are completely wrong.
Wanna try for the hat-trick?
Can you explain just how some innocent bystanders woudl suffer if the EMAIL address is wring, given that nobody replied to any EMAIL address?
Hint - RTFA. He TELEPHONED their number, he didn't email them.
Might be interesting to buy and have as my BSD laptop - reasonable power and a good secure OS woudl suit me fine for portable computing, and this sounds as though it could be just the thing!
Yeah, how uncomfortable that the police managed to catch the scumbag guilty of murdering the young girl to which you refer...
So you woudl actually prefer that the scumbag was still on the lose, right?